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geript
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geript
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On September 25 2014 16:15 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I still don't think CR is mafia, he is most probably 3p, lynching him today does nothing unless he is the poisoner. I'd rather lynch Damdred And he's admitted multiple times that he intends to do nothing. Lynch it. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On September 25 2014 16:08 geript wrote: I think the likeliest mafia/mafia pair is damdred/oats. I even just pointed out some shit about him at the top of the page. Right now with as ridiculously as CR is acting though, he might just actually be mafia and VE also be mafia. Part of the problem is I have no clue how to read Damdred as each and every time I've tried to read him I've thought he was scum and he was town. And each and every time he has no clue how to actually read me. So he might legitimately just be awful at reading me and a less experienced player. I just can't see how anything in his filter makes him town and I think there's good reason to think at least 1 person in each other group is town. Yes, deep down I still think CR is 3P but with how he's playing that's a crap shoot; and honestly I'm seriously betting not the martyr one. Why are you voting for CR if you think he is prob actually third party and if you also think that Oats/damdres is most likely mafia. Doesn't really make sense. I do agree that it is hard to distinguish whether Dam is maf or just bad however. | ||
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Chairman Ray
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On September 25 2014 16:16 geript wrote: Seriously CR, never ever play at TL again. You speak as though I joined this game just so I can afk. Whenever I roll town, I put in a lot of effort trying to hunt down scum. Whenever I roll mafia, I put in a lot of effort trying to get town mislynched. I really just have no clue what I'm supposed to do here in this 3p role. You're not being very helpful. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:17 geript wrote: And he's admitted multiple times that he intends to do nothing. Lynch it. I'm not doing nothing, I'm playing to achieve my win condition. That's why I'm arguing with you right now. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:20 Chairman Ray wrote: You speak as though I joined this game just so I can afk. Whenever I roll town, I put in a lot of effort trying to hunt down scum. Whenever I roll mafia, I put in a lot of effort trying to get town mislynched. I really just have no clue what I'm supposed to do here in this 3p role. You're not being very helpful. Find mafia. Protect a townie. Pretty basic actually. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:24 DarthPunk wrote: Find mafia. Protect a townie. Pretty basic actually. I also win with mafia though. Even if I play super well and manage to pinpoint all 3 mafia, it doesn't change the outcome. | ||
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Chairman Ray
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DarthPunk
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On September 25 2014 16:26 Chairman Ray wrote: I also win with mafia though. Even if I play super well and manage to pinpoint all 3 mafia, it doesn't change the outcome. You can also win with town. And the town knows you are third party, so if you don't try and help town why should we not lynch you? | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:27 DarthPunk wrote: You can also win with town. And the town knows you are third party, so if you don't try and help town why should we not lynch you? You lynch me when there's an incentive to lynch me, not when there's a lack of incentive not to lynch me. If I do absolutely nothing at all, then lynching me would be no different than a no-lynch, which is unfavorable for town. If I actually do play against town by disrupting the thread or posting reads on townroles or something, then there's an incentive to lynch me. | ||
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geript
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On September 25 2014 16:31 Chairman Ray wrote: You lynch me when there's an incentive to lynch me, not when there's a lack of incentive not to lynch me. If I do absolutely nothing at all, then lynching me would be no different than a no-lynch, which is unfavorable for town. If I actually do play against town by disrupting the thread or posting reads on townroles or something, then there's an incentive to lynch me. Enjoy getting lynched today then. You do nothing we 100% lynch you today. You don't martyr tonight, we 100% lynch you tomorrow. There's no grey line. Now since once you martyr, you have a town win condition, then you might want to start trying to figure out who mafia is. Because any help you can give to what your actual win condition will be would be appreciated. Otherwise, you can just lose now. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10859 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:43 geript wrote: Enjoy getting lynched today then. You do nothing we 100% lynch you today. You don't martyr tonight, we 100% lynch you tomorrow. There's no grey line. Now since once you martyr, you have a town win condition, then you might want to start trying to figure out who mafia is. Because any help you can give to what your actual win condition will be would be appreciated. Otherwise, you can just lose now. I basically agree with this concept, although I would much rather lynch scum today and have you be productive for the town. | ||
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geript
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On September 25 2014 16:44 DarthPunk wrote: I basically agree with this concept, although I would much rather lynch scum today and have you be productive for the town. I don't think anyone could possibly not see that role and not assume that they're essentially an innocent child that's forced to martyr N1. Hence why I think it's equally good to lynch him now. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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DarthPunk
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On September 25 2014 16:53 Chairman Ray wrote: geript, you're still not making any sense. You're just threatening me to play a certain way when I still don't understand why I have to play that way. I don't see in any way how this role is an innocent child. I win with both town and mafia. I'm not a confirmed town. I'm a confirmed spectator. You have to play that way or the town will lynch you. If you hadn't claimed you could have done whatever the fuck you wanted. Now you have to play by our rules or die by our hands. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 25 2014 16:54 DarthPunk wrote: You have to play that way or the town will lynch you. If you hadn't claimed you could have done whatever the fuck you wanted. Now you have to play by our rules or die by our hands. Finally someone starts making sense. I have waited all night to hear this. 3rd party favor points for you DP! Right now I think lynching me is an empty threat. If you can prove otherwise, I'll have to help town in order to survive. The way I see it, I choose if I want to help town, help mafia, help both, or help neither. You are saying that I choose help town or I get lynched. My move will be to help neither. At this time you can either lynch me, which is harming town, or lynch normally, which is helping town. I don't think town will choose to lynch me. | ||
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DarthPunk
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Chairman Ray
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But you do realize that lynching me is hurting town right? Town gains nothing from it, and you even lose a lynch. That's a pretty big detriment to town. So why are you doing this? | ||
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geript
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On September 25 2014 17:08 Chairman Ray wrote: Finally someone starts making sense. I have waited all night to hear this. 3rd party favor points for you DP! Right now I think lynching me is an empty threat. If you can prove otherwise, I'll have to help town in order to survive. The way I see it, I choose if I want to help town, help mafia, help both, or help neither. You are saying that I choose help town or I get lynched. My move will be to help neither. At this time you can either lynch me, which is harming town, or lynch normally, which is helping town. I don't think town will choose to lynch me. Giving out "favor points" doesn't help you win. You're at most a team of 3. We're likely a team of 10. First off, your life is in our hands, not the other way around. You don't set the rules, we do. Your life in this game is at our leisure. Not the other way around. Coming on 36 hours, the only positive thing you've done is claim 3P. Perhaps you don't know this about TL, but we lynch 3P claims all the fucking time. Plus, in this game there's a 66% chance that you are detrimental to town. You've fucked up if you think that claiming alone protects you. It doesn't in any way. Us lynching you is not an empty threat. Me and DP will push this shit through. This is not a joke. This is not funny. You play by our rules or we kick you out. | ||
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geript
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On September 25 2014 17:40 Chairman Ray wrote: As I said, I am not going to start helping town if you are forcing me to help town or die. I'm more of a braveheart type of guy where you can take my life, but you cannot take my freedom. But you do realize that lynching me is hurting town right? Town gains nothing from it, and you even lose a lynch. That's a pretty big detriment to town. So why are you doing this? Lynching you does not hurt town. Sure it may not get mafia but we're good enough to do that without you. Plus, you're not likely to be the martyr by your play so far, so it actually is a 50/50 to save a random (most likely town) death. You want to win, then play to what win conditions you have left. Here's a hint, it involves reading and giving opinions. | ||
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