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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2014 04:23 GMT
#921
I'm going to bed before I get frustrated.

Geript says I'm 100% mafia, only mafia deals in absolutes. He doesn't care which of myself or oats is lynched just one of us needs to die. There's plenty of scummy stuff in the thread to look at but he's not actually scun hunting.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 04:23 GMT
#922
On September 25 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 13:19 geript wrote:
On September 25 2014 13:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I would actually be willing to lynch VE despite what I said at the start of the day. I'm not happy though that Oats wouldn't make an effort to talk to me.

Then let's lynch Oats or Damdred. If VE flips town and if CR doesn't martyr, then town is in a really shitty position.


You are making statements about risk that do not make sense.

How is it a "shitty" position, as opposed to a slightly less optimal one?

Because then we're almost priced into lynching CR because he's likely poisoner or arsonist.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 25 2014 04:24 GMT
#923
On September 25 2014 13:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 25 2014 13:19 geript wrote:
On September 25 2014 13:16 Grackaroni wrote:
I would actually be willing to lynch VE despite what I said at the start of the day. I'm not happy though that Oats wouldn't make an effort to talk to me.

Then let's lynch Oats or Damdred. If VE flips town and if CR doesn't martyr, then town is in a really shitty position.


You are making statements about risk that do not make sense.

How is it a "shitty" position, as opposed to a slightly less optimal one?

Because then we're almost priced into lynching CR because he's likely poisoner or arsonist.


What in the hell are you talking about?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 25 2014 04:27 GMT
#924
Also dealing with CR is extremely easy. We just promise as a town to lynch him if he doesn't use his power night 1.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 04:28 GMT
#925
CR has claimed 3p defender. If he does not martyr on N1 and VE flips town, then he is most likely the arsonist or poisoner. So if VE flips town, we almost have to autolynch him or shoot him to prevent him from being able to whittle down town for a joint victory with mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 04:30 GMT
#926
On September 25 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Also dealing with CR is extremely easy. We just promise as a town to lynch him if he doesn't use his power night 1.

That's my point. If VE doesn't flip red, then by your plan we can essentially be locked into 2 lynches with your plan instead of just 1. I don't like that at all when I'm not confident that you are town and that your read is actually solid.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 25 2014 04:30 GMT
#927
That literally does not make sense. CR does not have to use his power unless we force him to. Him not using his power N1 also does not affect the chances of him being a certain type of neutral.

Hell why doesn't your agument apply to situations not involving killing VE? You're basically laying the groundwork for lynching CR Day 2 i fhe doesn't use his power regardless of who we lynch on Day 1.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 25 2014 04:32 GMT
#928
On September 25 2014 13:28 geript wrote:
CR has claimed 3p defender. If he does not martyr on N1 and VE flips town, then he is most likely the arsonist or poisoner. So if VE flips town, we almost have to autolynch him or shoot him to prevent him from being able to whittle down town for a joint victory with mafia.


According to this:
If VE flips town, we'd lynch CR if he doesn't use his power night one. How does that not apply to all other scenarios?
If VE flips scum, we'd still want to lynch CR.
IF we lynch someone other than VE, we'd STILL want to lynch an unconfirmed CR.

So what on earth are you talking about?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 25 2014 04:34 GMT
#929
And how are we even locked into 2 lynches?

We lynch VE. He flips whatever. CR will use his power, because the only way for him to lose the game is if we lynch him Day 2. We are not locked into 2 lynches.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 04:41 GMT
#930
Idk, the CR situation probably applies regardless of who is lynched. I just wish that you made me feel all super town about you and that Oats or Damdred would make me think they're actually town.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 25 2014 04:42 GMT
#931
On September 25 2014 13:41 geript wrote:
Idk, the CR situation probably applies regardless of who is lynched. I just wish that you made me feel all super town about you and that Oats or Damdred would make me think they're actually town.


No shit.

I have to go to bed earlier than 6am tonight. Make your meta case on Damdred and I'll take a look tomorrow morning.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 25 2014 04:49 GMT
#932
i gave up on CR lynch but its funnyhow you guys are willing to just let him slide for now. by the time you do anything it will be too late if he is one of the more venemous 3rd parties.
I come in for the scraps
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 05:16 GMT
#933
On September 25 2014 13:42 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 13:41 geript wrote:
Idk, the CR situation probably applies regardless of who is lynched. I just wish that you made me feel all super town about you and that Oats or Damdred would make me think they're actually town.


No shit.

I have to go to bed earlier than 6am tonight. Make your meta case on Damdred and I'll take a look tomorrow morning.

I don't really trust my meta read on him. Last time I went through 4-5 games and got his alignment all wrong. That's why I want you and DP and others to actually give feedback on what I said and on him. I feel like no matter what his alignment is I'm always going to find him scummy so I'd like outside opinions.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 25 2014 05:26 GMT
#934
the way i see it VA, is that if he is one of the more venomous 3p, he gets 1 kill, and is unable to use his powers as the arsonist if he dies d2?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 25 2014 05:33 GMT
#935
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 05:49 GMT
#936
On September 25 2014 14:33 Chairman Ray wrote:

##unvote
##vote Chairman Ray

This is how you want to play. Well now we just lynch the fuck out of you so you always lose. If I were a mod, I would've modkilled you for your play so far. Regardless of you getting any alignment, what you've done (or more appropriately not done) is entirely not acceptable. You will not win this game. Not with town. Not with Mafia. Not on your own. You just die.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 25 2014 05:54 GMT
#937
What am I supposed to do?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 05:55 GMT
#938
Most of the time when people pull this type of shit, they're fucking mafia. Let's just lynch him or maybe VE. Either one. Neither makes the other look better. I want to chain lynch both of them now, mostly CR. Chezinu has done this twice been mafia both times. Coag's done it a number of times (mostly as mafia). Seriously, if he doesn't want to play as any alignment then let's kick his ass out of the game. If this is your standard of play then seriously fucking go somewhere else. We don't want people who aren't going to at least attempt to win and put in some time.

GTFO
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2014 05:56 GMT
#939
On September 25 2014 14:54 Chairman Ray wrote:
What am I supposed to do?

Do you want to be lynched today? You don't get a free pass. DP is happy with you as a fallback lynch. I'll lynch the fuck out of you right now. I've got my 151. Vayn is happy lynching your ass. I doubt anyone actually gives a fuck about not lynching you. If you want to live, then you actually ahve to help town or else we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 25 2014 06:06 GMT
#940
I'm not sure what this faction is even supposed to do in the game. I can be active and play town, but I win with either town or mafia, so there really isn't an incentive for me to help town or mafia. How I see it, this is just a 13 player game, where I'm a spectator that can talk. I also have an action that can interfere with the game, but it really doesn't change the outcome for me if I win either way.
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