TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia

On June 06 2014 11:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Pssssstttt /obs

On June 09 2014 02:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oooooo.....

So much conflict.

So entertaining

Have fun boys! I'll be watching.

On June 16 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Okay, from filter skimming, you didn't even mention round in your scum reads til day 2, and then vote him, and I see no case anywhere on him.

I don't disagree that round should be lynched, but you have no substance to your read.

So, let us into that brain of yours. Why round?

On June 16 2014 05:38 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP: okay I see the day 1 on Round- but you basically said because he's a hydra. Anything else?

On June 16 2014 05:47 Tehpoofter wrote:


Where were you during EoD??????????????????????????????? You are here 30 minutes after it you were set to be lynched for a bit if it weren't for something last minute. You had like the MOST info out of everyone and you didn't comment vote anything. Do you think your play this game is helping hte village yamato?

On June 16 2014 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
I just have no motivation to read this game.

On June 16 2014 04:57 TicaTica wrote:
There is no case against yam. There's no reason to think he's actually mafia. The people on his wagon are mostly big question marks are are goign to become them. Lynch Haru.

On June 16 2014 05:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I actually agree with these reads, minus HF probably.

Because HF has a vote on you, he is mafia?

Sounds like an OMGUS.

Can you give me a bit more than that?

On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.

Help me out here buddy.

Why are you town?? And who is the mafia?

On June 16 2014 05:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Helping out the mafia, Banks?

On June 16 2014 06:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:


*Goes and checks voting thread/ HF filter*

Wtf yamato. He never voted you.

Idk about pushing a case... HF you have 15 pages of filter..... dammmn

On June 16 2014 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
If you are going to try and get someone lynched in the guise of attempting to play, try and not make it me because you will fail.

On June 16 2014 06:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:


You can play baseball with a bunch of 7 year olds and still lose. Depends on how good you are at the game.
I know you are good at the game, regardless of alignment, so this post does nothing for me, and besides your reads d1, you have done nothing for me.

What if all the mafia are not trying and the townies are trying? You are going to lynch all the townies.

On June 16 2014 06:22 Holyflare wrote:


No i literally have proof so carry on.

On June 16 2014 05:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Helloooooo Boys

I'm completely caught up with the game, so if you have any questions at all for me on certain people or cases, ask away. I know Errandor didn't contribute jack shit, but I'm hoping I can bring some thoughts and such and lynch some mafia! So, a few thoughts/ things I've noticed.

@Batsnacks- Your read is absolutely stupid. Just because someone's posting is thought out and thorough does not make them mafia. Sure I was mafia in Cell, but I play well, regardless of alignment. So your initial read on CR is stupid! Nt saying that CR isn't mafia, but your day 1 push on him for that was completely weird. Also you were really strong day 1 in activity, and day 2 you did absolutely nothing for me. No pushing cases, no reads, basically afkd through the lynch, and show up now. Top scum read.

@Roundabound- Robik is town. Mocsta is mafia. Sorry, Rob, but mocsta's scuminess outweighs your towniness. Lynch/shoot them as well.

I can elaborate on any of the reads I give at the bottom if need be.

Town
Marv- though he totally lacked in his play day 2.
ExO
Koshi- though him and marv were starting to annoy me with the whole "everyone is bad and wrong" thing. Not alignment indicative, but you guys need to find something else to go on.
JAT

Mafia
Round
Bat
Maybe yomata
Kush should be shot with a gun or something. Yeesh people.



Null/ Fenced
Poofter- was mafia with him last game. Day 1 trollyness-check. Lack of playing day 2- check. Still I like his reads.
Rainbows
Tica
MIF- bleh.
Everyone else i haven't mentioned.

On June 16 2014 06:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I'll answer this. Based purely on votes: Chrom, CR, MIF who voted.

Gumshoe, Kush, SNB who didn't vote.

Also, JAT, every vote Marv has been on, you have been on. Seems like major sheeping going on. You believe that much in MArv?

On June 16 2014 06:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I'll answer this. Based purely on votes: Chrom, CR, MIF who voted.

Gumshoe, Kush, SNB who didn't vote.

Also, JAT, every vote Marv has been on, you have been on. Seems like major sheeping going on. You believe that much in MArv?

On June 16 2014 06:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Yes, but easily could be mafia buddying up with a town.

I'm still reading you pretty townish tho. I just don't like the sheeping.

On June 16 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:


You're talking about Holyflare right?

On June 16 2014 06:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Sheeping can be alignment indicative. Mafia do it to seem mre townie as if they are sheeping a town person.

On June 16 2014 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Is there possibility of jailer roleblocking him?

Kinda stupid imo- but just putting it out there. (Jailer should have been on the vigi claim.. Poor MZ)

On June 16 2014 06:55 marvellosity wrote:
yeah i don't see why a jailer would ever be on hf

On June 16 2014 06:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Yeah I'm looking at JAT now, especially post flip. Every vote MArv has been on, so has JAT. Every vote but 1 has been after Marv voted. JAT voted before Marv on only the Sand vote.

JAT on day one just seemed to be figuring out the game. I liked his initial questioning of Round.
The only thing I dont like is basically he is just a bunch of one liners. I dont see big reads or cases.

For Round- Like I said, Rob part is reading townie to me, Mocsta part is reading scummy. Mocsta outweighs rob's townieness.
But day 1 Rob was townie, asking questions, completely disagreeing with the half of his hydra. Seems a little ballsy for them to be mafia from Rob's pov. Mocsta-however, idk. His reads don't sit with me. Also, i found it weird he was willing to go with any wagon being haru and yamato) over a read on keto that he had been pushing quite a bit.

Rainbows- Idk. I was iffy about the whole Haru/Rainbows thing, as I was reading haru pretty townie, and rainbows not so townie. I played detention mafia with him, and though he wasn't super like detention mafia, it seemed he was playing slightly similar. Rainbows- never played with i don't think. Not sure how to read, so null.

On June 16 2014 07:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I was thinking more of saving MZ rather than not allowing him to shoot.

Also, like I said. it was stupid idea-about hf being jailed, but was putting it out there.

On June 16 2014 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Like I said, I could be wrong. IDc. Just a thing that popped in my head. Idk why HF couldn't be possible jailer target?

I just like HF this game.

Also, can someone tell me, did MZ ever claim who he was going to shoot?
He could have been possibly claiming on a town, and mafia didnt rb for that reason.

On June 16 2014 07:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Kush/VA/Keto prob be good too.

Wouldnt mind a shot on yamato either.

On June 16 2014 07:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Really?

Could have fooled me in video mafia.

On June 16 2014 08:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:


With gumshoe not voting, should we waste a shot when he could get modkilled?

Tho Im down for gumshoe dying regardless of shots/lynches/modkills.

Je parle francais!

On June 16 2014 09:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Hello there Banks. Who won?

Also,

Slam is still town, don't shoot him.

On June 16 2014 09:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Gut read. And I've played I think 2 games with Slam so far?

He's been town, and it seems in this game he's town as well. Plus his responses to me haven't been off.

Something wrong with my read?

On June 16 2014 05:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Helloooooo Boys

I'm completely caught up with the game, so if you have any questions at all for me on certain people or cases, ask away. I know Errandor didn't contribute jack shit, but I'm hoping I can bring some thoughts and such and lynch some mafia! So, a few thoughts/ things I've noticed.

@Roundabound- Robik is town. Mocsta is mafia. Sorry, Rob, but mocsta's scuminess outweighs your towniness. Lynch/shoot them as well.

On June 16 2014 06:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:B]
For Round- Like I said, Rob part is reading townie to me, Mocsta part is reading scummy. Mocsta outweighs rob's townieness.
But day 1 Rob was townie, asking questions, completely disagreeing with the half of his hydra. Seems a little ballsy for them to be mafia from Rob's pov. Mocsta-however, idk. His reads don't sit with me. Also, i found it weird he was willing to go with any wagon being haru and yamato) over a read on keto that he had been pushing quite a bit.

Rainbows- Idk. I was iffy about the whole Haru/Rainbows thing, as I was reading haru pretty townie, and rainbows not so townie. I played detention mafia with him, and though he wasn't super like detention mafia, it seemed he was playing slightly similar. Rainbows- never played with i don't think. Not sure how to read, so null.

On June 16 2014 09:40 27ninjabunnies wrote:


If it was flimsy, I wouldn't be confident.

On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.

Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side
Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC

People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.

People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.

[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]

Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.

Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.

On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:


Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel.

And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry.

~moc

On June 16 2014 10:55 roundabound wrote:

Whilst I agree. I said thank you because the outcome is now known.

In fairnses, if 6 ppl were modkilled, the game could be over; or at the very least completely demotivating.

Twas a hard choice to make.

~moc

On June 16 2014 10:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ JAT- but you were saying i thought he was one. Bleh, sorry, I just have illsentiments to that word..

@Moc- really? Also, i watched you play on DM the other day. Not too shabby.

I tried to give my explaination as best as I could, and thats what Im sticking with.

@ Banks- bout time you did some work

On June 16 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:


you think she is TMIing or just assuming too much?

On June 16 2014 10:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Actually, I hate the r word, so please don't use that.

Also, i dont think that all. It's just how i get my reads.

But it's obv all this is doing is discrediting me, so im just gonna shut up now.

Continue with whatever, im gonna be afk from this game for awhile.


Playing video maf tonight.

On June 17 2014 00:48 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not sure i necessarily agree with the mocsta thing, it could just be mocsta being mocsta.

i'm kinda interested in the gumshoe thing though.

On June 17 2014 01:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Sorry. Just don't like the word. Have a little brother who has autism. And mean people use that word. It irks me.

Also, tmi? Are you really going to try and live up to your "nobody can read me" bullshit? yes :D

If the case is you saying i cant read you, you are scum then. COME AT ME BRO uh, actually, what should I say in that specific scenario? I don't think it is very common.

Also, im scum? Why?

On June 17 2014 02:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Like this.

On June 17 2014 02:07 yamato77 wrote:


You are 100% correct.

On June 17 2014 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
his posting looks reasonably natural and sufficiently diverse to me atm

after colouring in some random names on my spreadsheet, i'm kinda left with this sort of list:

ritoky/sandroba/mattisfoolish/Chairman Ray/strongandbig/ketomai/(holyflare)/(vayne)/(kush)/(ninjabunnies)

On June 17 2014 02:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I think mafia would more ask what do you think my mafia posts look like rather than a town person.

He should be concerned about finding scum, not how pretty his posts look.

Imo

On June 17 2014 02:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i have nb as town and im willing to eat shit endgame if she isnt.



id believe it.

On June 17 2014 02:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Like this.

On June 17 2014 02:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Because my opinion on yamato is independent of my opinion on mocsta.

Also my read on yamato is more based off of, what is he doing that is townie?

All i've seen is complaining, and nothing basically.

As town, he should be helping town.

On June 17 2014 02:56 yamato77 wrote:

These are the same silly things banks is saying.

You two are perfect for each other.

On June 17 2014 02:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Because my opinion on yamato is independent of my opinion on mocsta.

Also my read on yamato is more based off of, what is he doing that is townie?

All i've seen is complaining, and nothing basically.

As town, he should be helping town.

On June 17 2014 02:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Hmph. Well, if I read you as town, regardless of my reasoning, and we both flip town at the end of the game, can I get credit saying I can read Slam? Lmao

Also. Not very common you are scum? or not very common I can/can't read you?

On June 17 2014 03:12 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I mean, if a man really wants me to fight him, I'll knock his ass into the ground.

And that's disappointing Slam.

On June 17 2014 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


oh boy. do tell.

On June 17 2014 03:52 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Eh, while I agree poof is prob town, I wouldn't say it's because of this reason.
Banks would kill anyone anytime as long as it is strategic and helps mafia win (he's said this himself)
Just because he wanted to piss off palmer, doesn't mean he wouldnt nk him.
Especially since it also pisses kush off.

On June 17 2014 03:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:


This is actually one of the posts I'm placing into my "WTF is slam talking about now?" pile.

kushm4sta the ?????? has been slain!

On June 17 2014 05:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:


We don't know.

He could have been town.

Or he could have been mafia, and mafia are trying to cover it up.

On June 17 2014 05:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Maybe JAT for his sheeping votes.

On June 17 2014 05:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Eh, not really. Koshi actually gave a few people that he wanted to shoot. Obi,kush, and some others. He was also open to other people's reads on who should be shot.

Yeah, rb koshi prob would have been better for mafia is kush was mafia, so you might have a point, and kush might be town.
if that is the case, and if kush was a role, mafia can easily claim it. so i'd be wary of claims. Just my opinion.

On June 17 2014 05:48 roundabound wrote:

There's a distinction between jail and RB from mods?

On June 17 2014 05:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I don't think it's bullshit.

On June 17 2014 05:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:

JAT is like a puppy dog, following his owner.

On June 17 2014 05:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Yeah, they can be.

And it's not newbie level scumhunting.

It's my sumhunting XD

On June 17 2014 06:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The thing is, I really don't want to lynch off the ones who were townie d1(imo), and then dropped off.

On June 17 2014 06:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Whatever, I'll leave the sheeping alone.

I still don't like it, at all.

Making that known.

Also: ##Vote: Gumshoe

The thing is, I really don't want to lynch off the ones who were townie d1(imo), and then dropped off.

I.E MIF and Gumshoe (though I really like HFs case on gumshoe, and wouldn't mind sheeping him)

On June 18 2014 07:58 yamato77 wrote:

no, matt, no

On June 18 2014 09:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Take CR and batsnack off your list.

Or tell me why they shouldnt be lynched.

On June 18 2014 09:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Take CR and batsnack off your list.

Or tell me why they shouldnt be lynched.

On June 18 2014 10:15 roundabound wrote:

rainbows; you are in my top town circle

but qs like this do not help ppl read you; nor, does it help to get a read off rainbow.

Regarding Ketomai: yes still scummy; however, if we look @ opportunity cost: Sandroba represents a much bigger trophy than the unknown ketomai.

Sandroba out of his own accord promised to contribute, and has failed to deliver.
This is beyond a policy lynch now, we are into day3; and sandroba filter has not cracked 1 page; nor has it produced a single post of merit.

We have lazy, high-profile scum here and a perfect opportunity to eradicate scum

~moc

On June 18 2014 11:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Eh, HF could be mafia here.

Im leaning more town, but I think as town he should have died by now? Idk.

Also, no. We won't go to f3, cause mafia gonna get rekt!

Also, correct read.

On June 18 2014 11:39 yamato77 wrote:
batsnacks' reads are like, total sheep reads

idk if I believe he has those reads

On June 18 2014 11:51 yamato77 wrote:

Talk me through how you get to this list.

On June 18 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:


If those are batsnacks reads, they are pretty terrible.

Our reads are like, purely opposite.

On June 18 2014 12:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:


My play is similar every game, so try again.

And as I said, your "bunnies is mafia because she is thorough and plays well" doesn't work.

Give me some significant evidence.

Also, what do you think of marv's claim of protection? Think that's the reason why he is alive?
HF read, I can agree on.

Round has talked a lot in this game? Why hasn't any of his stuff been significant?

On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:


How am I bad at mafia if my play is similar? If I play my town game, no one can discern when Im mafia. Win/win imo.
Though there are some differences, that I won't go into.

Honestly, you were right because of luck imo. You placed a read on me that mad no sense. Who did you say was similar to me in cell, thorough and all early in day 1? What's you read on him now?

Marv claimed he has been jailed. two nights in a row. That means he is protected from 1kp.

Why was HF reading town for you that you think he would die early?

You still think I'm mafia?

On June 18 2014 12:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Actually, tbh, that's the least question I care about. Though I do want to know why.

Answer the others please.

On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
How am I bad at mafia if my play is similar?

On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Honestly, you were right because of luck imo. You placed a read on me that mad no sense. Who did you say was similar to me in cell, thorough and all early in day 1? What's you read on him now?

On June 18 2014 10:46 batsnacks wrote:


Since I'm here I'll answer these questions for fun.

CR could be mafia, I can easily picture a universe where he is, but he's nowhere near the scummiest in this game. The only thing he has going against him is day 2 which: a lot of people looked bad day 2 myself included.

Ritoky reads town to me. I think his low activity can be explained. He has been pushing for a chrom lynch for a while but no one really seems to agree with him. Since no one agrees with him, he probably feels less compelled to post. He did make some effort to give other reads, which is good. I still just think he's frustrated and dwelling on chrom because he has a strong feeling.

As for myself, I think it's unusual how many people are town reading me. I feel like I'm being manipulated.

Gumshoe commented on a couple useless posts (Palmar's numbers post, a couple IRL stuff posts) which is scummy to me. But then there was that post where he thought there was a 3rd party in this game, which, I don't believe mafia would have made that mistake. Mafia, in the universe I am imagining, would have read the OP. Gumshoe isn't someone I'm going to vote for today.

On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Why was HF reading town for you that you think he would die early?

On June 18 2014 12:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:
You still think I'm mafia?

On June 19 2014 03:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I think ritoky is prob more maf than MIF is, tho im down with both.

MIF atleast has given thoughts, even if they show up at moments they are being pressured.

On June 19 2014 03:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Do you know how hard that is from a phone.

Read ritokys filter- its like 2 pages. He has a argument with another player- and then gives two posts of reads and afks again

MIF, well he questions and talks about more people imo, though im not impressed with the fact my questions still havent been answered

On June 19 2014 03:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Questions i directed to MIF.

Also, why not make your own decision?

Weird you show up now.

On June 19 2014 03:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Do you know how hard that is from a phone.

Read ritokys filter- its like 2 pages. He has a argument with another player- and then gives two posts of reads and afks again

MIF, well he questions and talks about more people imo, though im not impressed with the fact my questions still havent been answered