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kushm4sta
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justanothertownie
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Protective roles know what to do and Koshi... just shoot whoever you want. I still think it makes not much sense from your POV to shoot Kush if you don't have a scumread on HF (you should probably look closely at the stuff he will present). If you do however fire away - Kush said some really weak things today. | ||
yamato77
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On June 17 2014 00:28 kushm4sta wrote: who flipped scum other than koc and when No one, kush. Holy is just making bad associative reads. | ||
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marvellosity
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justanothertownie
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yamato77
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marvellosity
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yamato77
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On June 17 2014 00:30 justanothertownie wrote: Kush seems to go for too dumb to be scum right now. Kush is not above acting stupid as mafia. But it is more like him to be ignorant as town. As scum, kush always gives away that he knows too much. | ||
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marvellosity
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justanothertownie
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On June 17 2014 00:33 marvellosity wrote: Going to have to revisit Chromatically, I forgot he existed. Yeah, lol. That's the case with a few people actually (for me at least). | ||
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yamato77
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On June 17 2014 00:31 marvellosity wrote: why is he supertown to you then yam? Mainly Robik's start to the game that exactly mirrored the last big game I remember him playing in. Lots of pointless yelling and accusations, etc. People scumread him for that in that game, too, but he turned up town. Moc I've never had a good read on. Him enjoying himself like he has this game is non alignment indicative, because he loves trolling the thread as scum. He also does this sort of thing as town where he makes really bad cases he believes in because he's tunnelled. I said similar things D1. | ||
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kushm4sta
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marvellosity
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On June 17 2014 00:34 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, lol. That's the case with a few people actually (for me at least). super fast skim of his filter and he still looks ok to me. | ||
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yamato77
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Still like that read. | ||
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yamato77
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On June 11 2014 11:55 kushm4sta wrote: im quite curious how serious mocsta is, because he didn't give much of reasoning. and bm has a lot a lot of content Kush your moc read is a lie. | ||
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marvellosity
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after colouring in some random names on my spreadsheet, i'm kinda left with this sort of list: ritoky/sandroba/mattisfoolish/Chairman Ray/strongandbig/ketomai/(holyflare)/(vayne)/(kush)/(ninjabunnies) | ||
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Holyflare
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With that in mind, lynch these fuckers: Roundabound This is kind of effort to discuss but it's not particularly linked to individual posts but more of the overall posting style of them both together and is likely one of the only active mafia in the game: Robik starts off the thread in the most bizare way possible, he is contradictory, saying he wants to "bait" posts but then in a post directly after saying he doesn't know how to bait posts and then generally being really super defensive. I can see this from robik being towny because he's bad at the game. It's kind of mocsta's posting that gives me the warm fuzzy mafia "i don't know what i'm doing" scientist dog meme feels. He calls out BM as being mafia (lol silly, recurring theme of actually calling towniest people scummy) and makes some posts which don't make any sense: + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 11:27 roundabound wrote: BM (+) Appears to be making an effort at problem solving and/or reading. (-) Constantly flip-flops over every detail. Outcomes: (1) Bad townie failing to lead the town OR (2) Scum successfully destroying all cred Conclusion: #2 BM What sayeth you. ~moc + Show Spoiler + On June 11 2014 11:47 roundabound wrote: Thank you for proving your grasp of thread sentiment. People of this town. Beware the foe titled "BillMurray". This chap enjoys casting the illusion of stupidity; but rather is acutely aware of his actions: cause, and effect. I was exposed first-hand to the sorcery of this vile conjurer in a PYP game containing the infamous "INjustice vigi". So join me people of this town to eradicate the evil that is trying to lead this town. For BM is a plague positioning himself amongst the awkward NK, and useless town folk brackets. Or in other words: The ideal position scum want to be in. ##Vote: BillMurray ~moc P.S. Here is his buddy This post is an oxymoron at heart. "Theres nothing much that indicates scum" - Regarding Exo. "Until I catch up with the thread" - Regarding this knowledge "So how about I just vote roundabout for shits n gigglez." It's one of those posts where you have two conclusions but then go ahead and assume the mafia one for no good reason whatsoever. He doesn't even outline why he thought that way or not. It's not something i'd assume someone trying to figure something out would say but instead someone assigning behaviour to someone else to make them look scummy. He then votes BM because of...? I don't actually know it's not really apparent. It seems like some argument that doesn't involve anything makes mocsta and robik flip out for no reason whatsoever on their scum read. I can fathom towny mocsta/robik doing this in some bizzare way but they both spend a great deal of the rest of the day afk and not really looking elsewhere, playing video mafia, getting drunk (hammering on ket over and over based on him supporting switching to them for poop reasons and then after returning they unvote bm and vote ket for some totally different reason than the one stated before) This then takes a turn for the worse, after saying absolutely nothing about marv pretty much ever and marv lynching mafia out of nowhere robik starts to make some absurd shit story about marv bussing cats when he didn't need to and TMI and then later mocsta decides to do the same thing and starts questioning marv for not being around: On June 14 2014 01:27 roundabound wrote: I think the dude whose name starts with K TMId the shit out of that. I think it was a subconscious thing to do knowing that you are actually mafia and actually bussing your teammate. It also doesnt give you much credit if SnB is maf PR or whoever else was on the chopping block. Boy you're too good to be true. Cant keep my eyes off of you. On June 15 2014 23:13 roundabound wrote: Keto Pls walk me through some thoughts. 1. Marv hasn't done much this cycle. What makes him more townie? 2. I get sinani is difficult because there isn't an official response to your first set of q. But What makes u 2 different to haru/rainbow? 3. Do u have a reason to suspect rainbow other than the continual campaign for haru votes? ~moc Mocsta's ketomai case looks long and impressive but actually go and read it because it's so so so awful it has nothing conclusive in it whatsoever and the only redeeming part was the end where he talks about ket dropping a read. When questioned about some things in it or told that it looked a bit funny he way way way overreacted (something that happens apparently quite often in this game) On June 15 2014 14:30 roundabound wrote: Vote me then ~moc On June 15 2014 14:42 roundabound wrote: U have accused me of making a case in a mafia oriented way Put ya money where ya mouth is O/w you are all talk, in a mafia oriented way. ~moc On June 16 2014 03:17 roundabound wrote: Put ya money where ya mouth is then. Last I checked, its not a fellony to vote on ppl I think are scum. ~moc If you can't be fucked to read anything read these next bits, Mocsta has spent all day 1 and 2 going after Ketomai, he also says that: On June 15 2014 23:39 roundabound wrote: Sandroba is known to do nothing as scum Notnposting in 24hrs is sorta acceptable.. But sandroba has exceeded that I believe. My memory of sandroba is destroying my scum team in LoL and banding town together. Maybe its too early for the first part, but def seen none of the last. I seen kush play plenty of styles and I dunno what is typical for him anymore. Him changing read on me seems more inline with town games from my experience.... ~moc Sandroba is the best lynch and better than a kush lynch because sandroba is following his meta of not doing anything, he's not seen any of sandroba's town play this game which is normally indicative of his mafia play. He thinks marv is not really towny looking, robik actually thinks he's mafia bussing, they hate ketomai and think he's scum which is very evident and for some reason they made this comment: Robik and me finally caught up to chat & we agree rainbows/haru is not town + town either. However I havent seen a good reason to not vote MIF other than potential to solve the game (which is applicable to a multitude of players left in the pool). On June 16 2014 05:03 Amiko wrote: Day 2 - Final Vote Count roundabound (1): batsnacks, Rainbows (0): HaruRH (7): Rainbows, Chromatically, TicaTica, Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, mattisfoolish Ketomai (1): kushm4sta (3): yamato77, Chromatically (1): sandroba (0): mattisfoolish (1): gumshoe (0): ritoky (1): VayneAuthority Erandorr (1): Chairman Ray Chairman Ray (0): yamato77 (5): Not voting (5): sandroba, Erandorr, kushm4sta, gumshoe, strongandbig HaruRH has been lynched with 7 votes! Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! This is the scummiest shit i've seen! They abandon any form of sandroba read and jump onto foolishness WITH 2 OF THEIR SCUM READSSSSSSSS, when marv returns and moves to yamato they switch over to yamato WITH ANOTHER 2 OF THEIR SCUM READS onto someone they haven't even mentioned the entire game!??!?!?!?! He even said the rainbow/haru argument wasn't town/town and didn't even vote for haru in the end???? Unfortunately this most likely means yamato is town. What a bummer. Gumshoe Gumshoe's entry post here: click me! is fine on initial glance but when you actually read the thread you'd realise that everything he said in that post was already said 3 times before by multiple people. This is his only contribution that looks original in the entire game!!! You can say "but he has 2 pages hf, what are you talking about!". Maybe you should read those pages. After his 'contribution' he starts to coach exo on why he is wrong and what mafia do. Not just once: + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 05:40 gumshoe wrote: Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives. but twice!:+ Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 06:45 gumshoe wrote: That's fine and all, but that puts me in the position of " do I really think this guy hasn't found anything useful to push after 40 pages of relatively useful dialogue?" Also the newb defence is ill founded. Most new players are brash and want nothing more than to find scum day 1. Basicaly, you haven't given me much to go on but it's day 1 so Im glad to give you time before I decide what I think about you. But I don't see how you can be bothered that I found your silence premtively suspicious / : a persons entry is pretty key to determining if they're mafia or not. As a game goes on if mafia become more accepted they can begin to look pretty much like town, whereas scums first day is always going to be a bit off, how can it not? They know everything, we know nothing, it is in these first few turbulent days that scum are most likely to slip but not unless town litters the floors with bananas. Oh also I think jat looks pretty iffy too / : I'm not asking you too make shitty posts like that, Try to make good ones and if they come out bad, it is what is. We're not idiots, we'll be able to tell if your actually trying / : He makes a case on ket that everyone and their mother was talking about as an alternate lynch to cats at a convenient time and the case was pretty much super lackluster, I found this quote particularly funny cosidering what I've talked about above: There are more people playing this game than round and exo, 27 more players to be exact, and yet his vote is on someone he thinks is town? Also he seems to think alot about what scum would and wouldnt do, you know who else does that? Scum. If you read the case: here you'll see that rather than it actually being a case he doesn't actually call the guy scum...? For all the posturing he did on CR and calling him scummy for not coming to a conclusion in his first post gumshoe has done EXACTLY THE SAME THING. When he returns super late with excuse his read on ket has completely, COMPLETELY vanished because nobody is bringing him up for lynch and they ARE talking about lynching haru.: On June 14 2014 16:14 gumshoe wrote: Helop, surprisingly I have a pretty good excuse for my ludicrously long absence buuuuut people hate excuses so I'll just get back into it, I've reconsidered chair man, I liked his explanation/defence. It makes more sense that he was just trying to figure stuff out as opposed to try and start a fire. As a result I'm fine with lynching haru purely because he jumped on the case I made right away despite having only made a single comment against cr in passing a while back. On another note, noes around the time I expect Exo to solve the game given how much he's hyped his quality over quantity reads so looking forward to that. This is scummy as shit, he hasn't got consistent reads (in a manner that follows thread sentiment on who is scummy), he copies a lot of posts that people make and posts them as if it's original thought and then afk's through the entire game despite obviously knowing he'd be doing things like tallying votes etc beforehand. Strongandbig The perpetual shitflinging list poster: + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote: This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote: Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over [complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work] Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case Also would still kill rainbows On June 13 2014 01:21 strongandbig wrote: what is this this is terrible like five hours from lynch switching his vote to a target who is not gonna get lynched without a big push and saying we should just "watch" them come on bro On June 13 2014 01:28 strongandbig wrote: no im saying his "you're scum because you like koshi's argument and also thought he is scummy" is stupid. for the same reasons it was stupid last time, i didnt feel like retyping them On June 14 2014 05:43 strongandbig wrote: this is a terrible case wtf is "thread manipulation" how are his shitreads any worse than anyone else's you say he does that as scum but does he not do it as town? otherwise it means nothing the vig use thing is a difference of opinion not of alignment necessarily, some people think vigshots should be used to kill lurkers others think they should be used to try and kill scum. why is the latter scum motivated. Posts a lot of lists that say nothing. His actual posts addressing things are only to say "this is bad" or "that's not right", the one time he returns is RIGHT AT THE DEADLINE DAY 2 to say: On June 16 2014 03:12 strongandbig wrote: hey okay so i'm sorry about my activity lately. been super frustrated at stuff breaking at work and that kind of extends into mafia. i've skimmed the last 500 or so posts but not super sure about the scum read on mif - here's the thing, it just reminds me a little much of the reasons literally everyone in the obs qt thought foolishness was scum in my last game, he is capable as town of making these shitty cases based on comparing a single game on each alignment. this is true ish but sandroba is much more likely to lose interest as scum than as town. Still, probably not worth it to lynch him yet, but I would lynch him tomorrow if he keeps it up (unless there's a better case). But given recent games, "posting shitty cases" seems like a weaker scumtell on foolishness than "not wanting to play" is for sandroba. also - I feel like mattchew would have no problem spamming as scum? Yeh, nothing. Posts a lot of things that say he would not lynch any of the people up for lynch and then just fucks off again when the lynch is onto people that are not foolishness/sandroba. Doesn't even vote, no contesting of wagon between snb or cats at all after lots of people said he was suspicious. Nothing happening, likely mafia power role. Kush (if you don't know the reasons by now you aren't reading the game). I realised what koshi said implicates me horribly if kush is scum but in all honesty I don't care because + Show Spoiler + i have reasons that i'm town for later The sandroba/mif debate: Biased because i dislike gumshoe and foolishness set me onto him, sandroba has really really done nothing. He was active for a point in time but even then did nothing but will definitely see tomorrow. The rest of the lurkers: Slam I could see being mafia because of the whole not talking about cats or even voting on him or anything thing but then it's more coin flippy than I like. VA... really not a clue, CR (what the fuck happened to him?) was kinda ok at the start of the game but then completely flipped with the vote so now I have no real idea. | ||
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justanothertownie
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On June 17 2014 00:39 marvellosity wrote: his posting looks reasonably natural and sufficiently diverse to me atm after colouring in some random names on my spreadsheet, i'm kinda left with this sort of list: ritoky/sandroba/mattisfoolish/Chairman Ray/strongandbig/ketomai/(holyflare)/(vayne)/(kush)/(ninjabunnies) Still not opposed to any of that although it is kinda mean to group bunnies with those 3. Can we just agree to lynch sandro if he doesn't deliver again? | ||
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marvellosity
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