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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 10:42 GMT
#3481
On June 16 2014 17:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
day 2 was really bad for town. nobody consolidated until the last second, and only at marv's say so. even though tica got his lynch (which was a miss) he only secured it because marv ultimately wanted it.

marv has such a ridiculous amount pull in the thread that if he dies, town is either going to be left in a ridiculously shitty position or is going to lose immediately. we need more people to step up and take control, because nothing happened at all until he showed up to the thread and everything that happened thereafter was based on reads made off of one or two posts.

we need to focus on four things:
a) pressuring the people who were off both wagons.
b) pushing our reads within reason
c) looking to understand where other players are coming from instead of just looking for opportunities to attack each other.
d) playing the game.

nobody really played well yesterday, and its not much of a surprise that we missed. im as willing to take the blame as any other player here who voted haru. i see a lot of people just sitting around, posting their reads and then doing precisely nothing with them/bickering with their scumread for pages upon pages. im playing like shit too, but i want to step up and do some things. we are hitting both extremes of the spectrum, and we need to focus on what were doing wrong in order to make sure we dont miss like that again.

if people want to stop playing and just do nothing, thats fine. mafia is likely hiding in the day 2 inactives/lazies because nobody did anything until the last second, and everyone seems to be totally fine with that. players that know better should also be under scrutiny for doing nothing/next to nothing and having town be totally fine with that. if you have nothing but excuses for doing nothing, then we lynch you/vig you because youre wasting a slot and making this impossible to play.

we really, really need to consolidate and understand where people are coming from too, before we hit 10 minutes before deadline. this is especially important for the people who are bickering at each other all game, since nobody but marv has any kind of following in the thread because people are either doing fuck all or just tunneling the shit out of each other.

im sure ill have some more stuff to say about the state of the town and what we can do to fix it tomorrow, but i cant think of anything else right now. call me out on whatever if you want/need to, but town is in kind of a weird spot in my opinion.

tldr: that was a bad lynch. lots of votes were useless. practically the only votes that wound up being useful were marv's and basically every single player that sheeped marv. i was about 10 seconds away from voting wrong too, so im holding myself accountable as well.

(also in hindsight i shouldve posted this during the day so i could follow it up with being more active, but w/e)

im sure holyflare already harped on it like 5 billion times since hes king purge-the-inactives but what he's saying holds true.

This is a huge ass post on how shitty our situation is and how bad we all are. Complaining without really presenting a solution or even a single read. You sir just got a lot more scummy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 10:44 GMT
#3482
Like you can almost post this post in every game of mafia. It is so general.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 10:48 GMT
#3483
i didn't mind the post tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2014 10:48 GMT
#3484
Hehe

It basically gives praise and glory to you

Anyway 3:49
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 10:50 GMT
#3485
On June 16 2014 11:35 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.

Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side

Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC


People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.

People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.

[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]

Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.


Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.



Slam: I have no idea how you people are reading him.
Exo: Don't really get a townread here and you gave no reasons for it. Explain?
Me: Things on my own? Like my KotC read? I was scummy on him before marv. And I certainly won't stop sheeping marv if he keeps going after targets I agree on.
MIF: What about their day2 was pretty good?

Rest is somewhat ok for me.


What I think about your reads:

Marv: Pretty much agree, though his day 2 is really strange to me. Gonna need to see his day 3.
Koshi: Also agree though sometimes his posts can be...poorly worded? Still likely town
Round: Don't have a really good read
Slam: At the start of day 2 I was leaning mafia on slam. He was spammy, avoided the KotC wagon, and he was a part of the earlier SnB wagon that almost went through. Now I'm not so sure, I haven't really payed too much attention to his day 2 postings. So slightly leaning mafia, but just slightly
Obi: Null
VA: I have no idea what his alignment is but I find his spam to be unhelpful and annoying. I wonder if he actually finds himself funny or is just trolling. Null read, but I don't really like him.
Bunnies: seems nice so far, but have no way of knowing yet
JAT: JAT has been on my ass all game. I have no idea what I did to make him think I'm a wolf, but he has been pushing me for 2 days straight. My knee-jerk reaction is to say that makes him mafia, but I don't think I can do that. He could be town and just really think I'm mafia. So I'm leaning mafia on JAT, but I think my opinion might be biased.

TicaTica: I get a town read off tica, really seems a lot like Koshi to me
Rainbows: I know I should have more of an opinion on him, but he's null for me. I need to read a bit more about the discussion around him.
Kush - Similar to VA, only more of a waste of space. I don't understand if he's town why he's trolling like this, so I'd say mafia or just somebody trolling and not playing to win. Lean mafia
Chrom: Biggest scumread I've had all game
ritoky: null

HF: leaning town. I suspected him a little bit after day 1, but his day 2 play was alright. Looks townie to me
Batsnacks: leaning town, but not by a lot.

Gumshoe: Likely mafia. I'm not sure really what it is, but I think he's paying attention unlike the other lurkers. I think he's lurking mafia
Sandroba: Null
SnB: Null read, but if mafia had one guy nominated only for it to swing to KotC, that just sounds flat out horrible or extremely mind-gamey. So good chance of him being town, but based purely on his play it's a null read
Mattisfoolish: also unsure.
Sinani206: Leaning town, but he's very inactive it seems like. Could be lurking mafia, but I don't get that vibe from him as much.
Yama: Day 1 was leaning mafia, but I think he's back in neutral ground for me.

Ketomai: Perhaps I need to read his filter, but I've never really understood the super strong case for him being a wolf. I didn't really read his stuff closely but I didn't get really feel like he was a scum when he was first defending himself after being accused. I probably need to dive his filter and figure out just why a seemingly large portion of players here think he is scummy
ChairmanRay: I agree. His play day 1 seemed wolfy to me, and the vote today seems wolfy. Likely Mafia.

First of all that you think I of all people have been pushing you for 2 days straight seems very defensive to me. It is also not true.
Many many nullreads. That's not scummy in itself but striking.
You add a disclaimer to almost all your townreads. Even to marv. But Tica just gets a townread. Explain please.
Yamato funnily pointed it out himself but how you can think his day2 was townier than his day1 is really baffling.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 10:51 GMT
#3486
On June 16 2014 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
i didn't mind the post tbh.

Do you think he did what he could to not let the things he complained about happen day2?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2014 10:51 GMT
#3487
On June 16 2014 19:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
i didn't mind the post tbh.

Do you think he did what he could to not let the things he complained about happen day2?

no, but he accepted responsibility within the post too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 10:52 GMT
#3488
On June 16 2014 19:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 19:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 19:48 marvellosity wrote:
i didn't mind the post tbh.

Do you think he did what he could to not let the things he complained about happen day2?

no, but he accepted responsibility within the post too.

Whatever. I don't like it. Let's see if he follows up accordingly.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 11:41 GMT
#3489
not voting is an huge town tell imo
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 11:43 GMT
#3490
On June 16 2014 20:41 kushm4sta wrote:
not voting is an huge town tell imo

One might think so but it is not true. See YOSO for prove.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 11:46 GMT
#3491
There were 2 people not voting day1 and both were mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 11:49 GMT
#3492
One of them repeated this on a later day and a third mafia did not vote on 2 days.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 11:49 GMT
#3493
also the thing about obiwanshinobis post, is it is so generalized that it makes it more likely coming from town, because scum trying hard would want to make their post more focused and pick a suspect.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 11:51 GMT
#3494
On June 16 2014 20:49 kushm4sta wrote:
also the thing about obiwanshinobis post, is it is so generalized that it makes it more likely coming from town, because scum trying hard would want to make their post more focused and pick a suspect.

Does he seem tryhard to you?
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 12:15 GMT
#3495
that post seems tryhard in its attitude and how long it is
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2014 13:57 GMT
#3496
reads are coming™
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 16 2014 14:19 GMT
#3497
On June 16 2014 15:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 13:55 yamato77 wrote:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/real-sunday-night-turbo-sign-up-1452341/

2p2 turbo

all the fun and speed of voice/video mafia without having to listen to annoying voices.


Just fuck off if you're going to be shitty all game like this, it's totally unacceptable.

Lol.

Umad.
Writer@WriterYamato
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 14:40 GMT
#3498
hf is such a massive hypocrite lol. vig plz
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2014 14:41 GMT
#3499
On June 16 2014 23:40 kushm4sta wrote:
hf is such a massive hypocrite lol. vig plz


and how is that so?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 16 2014 14:41 GMT
#3500
On June 16 2014 23:40 kushm4sta wrote:
hf is such a massive hypocrite lol. vig plz

Explain. If I see the last posts I would vig yamato.
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