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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 16 2014 04:49 GMT
#3461
Yam totes tipsy
Writer@WriterYamato
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 04:52 GMT
#3462
neverliked you yam
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 16 2014 04:54 GMT
#3463
I never liked you either
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 16 2014 04:55 GMT
#3464
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/real-sunday-night-turbo-sign-up-1452341/

2p2 turbo

all the fun and speed of voice/video mafia without having to listen to annoying voices.
Writer@WriterYamato
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 05:40 GMT
#3465
i joined lol
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 05:51 GMT
#3466
not cool yamato
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2014 06:04 GMT
#3467
On June 16 2014 13:55 yamato77 wrote:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/puzzles-other-games/real-sunday-night-turbo-sign-up-1452341/

2p2 turbo

all the fun and speed of voice/video mafia without having to listen to annoying voices.


Just fuck off if you're going to be shitty all game like this, it's totally unacceptable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2014 06:05 GMT
#3468
Also poofter your list of reads is pretty much identical to mine half way through day 2 that you criticised for being all lurkerish ppl.

Why the change?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2014 06:13 GMT
#3469
Will be home today so can stop phone posting and make some lovely cases for you all.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
June 16 2014 06:24 GMT
#3470
On June 16 2014 15:13 Holyflare wrote:
Will be home today so can stop phone posting and make some lovely cases for you all.

inb4 this never happens
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 16 2014 06:25 GMT
#3471
On June 16 2014 15:05 Holyflare wrote:
Also poofter your list of reads is pretty much identical to mine half way through day 2 that you criticised for being all lurkerish ppl.

Why the change?


I thought I remember you leaving off some lurkers that I thought were scummy so I didn't agree with your bias.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 16 2014 06:36 GMT
#3472
Guys, I lynched mocsta in Video mafia.

Would have been great if he was actually mafia.

I can't trust my reads!!! TT
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 16 2014 07:01 GMT
#3473
Also, I am off to bed/ playing videomafia. Hope to see more thoughts and questions from people when i wake up!
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
June 16 2014 08:10 GMT
#3474
day 2 was really bad for town. nobody consolidated until the last second, and only at marv's say so. even though tica got his lynch (which was a miss) he only secured it because marv ultimately wanted it.

marv has such a ridiculous amount pull in the thread that if he dies, town is either going to be left in a ridiculously shitty position or is going to lose immediately. we need more people to step up and take control, because nothing happened at all until he showed up to the thread and everything that happened thereafter was based on reads made off of one or two posts.

we need to focus on four things:
a) pressuring the people who were off both wagons.
b) pushing our reads within reason
c) looking to understand where other players are coming from instead of just looking for opportunities to attack each other.
d) playing the game.

nobody really played well yesterday, and its not much of a surprise that we missed. im as willing to take the blame as any other player here who voted haru. i see a lot of people just sitting around, posting their reads and then doing precisely nothing with them/bickering with their scumread for pages upon pages. im playing like shit too, but i want to step up and do some things. we are hitting both extremes of the spectrum, and we need to focus on what were doing wrong in order to make sure we dont miss like that again.

if people want to stop playing and just do nothing, thats fine. mafia is likely hiding in the day 2 inactives/lazies because nobody did anything until the last second, and everyone seems to be totally fine with that. players that know better should also be under scrutiny for doing nothing/next to nothing and having town be totally fine with that. if you have nothing but excuses for doing nothing, then we lynch you/vig you because youre wasting a slot and making this impossible to play.

we really, really need to consolidate and understand where people are coming from too, before we hit 10 minutes before deadline. this is especially important for the people who are bickering at each other all game, since nobody but marv has any kind of following in the thread because people are either doing fuck all or just tunneling the shit out of each other.

im sure ill have some more stuff to say about the state of the town and what we can do to fix it tomorrow, but i cant think of anything else right now. call me out on whatever if you want/need to, but town is in kind of a weird spot in my opinion.

tldr: that was a bad lynch. lots of votes were useless. practically the only votes that wound up being useful were marv's and basically every single player that sheeped marv. i was about 10 seconds away from voting wrong too, so im holding myself accountable as well.

(also in hindsight i shouldve posted this during the day so i could follow it up with being more active, but w/e)

im sure holyflare already harped on it like 5 billion times since hes king purge-the-inactives but what he's saying holds true.
Retired.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 16 2014 08:47 GMT
#3475
I am going to yolo shoot. I don't know how many janitors scum has but I can't let them janitor my shot. I think the poofter his list is pretty good.

I kinda also really want to hit scum because then we are insanely ahead. Unlike Mr. Doomthinker Obiwan is claiming we still have 2 misslynches left because the d1 scumlynch. I am going to believe scum has a janitor and a vigi. So worst case 5 town die tonight. But after that there should be only 2 nk every night (I think we got a docsave n1). Till we lynch 2 scummers. Then we will have another ml into lylo.

Like, consolidation is all fun and stuff, but moving around near the deadline is never bad. As long as the biggest wagon ends up with +50% of the votes. That's the only thing that matters.

Also, Mr. Obiwan should be scumhunting instead of telling town how to play. We know how to play mafia. Your general guidelines are not needed here. I checked your D2 play and it was utter shit. Weekends aren't great for anybody but please look at yourself first and others after. Pick up your own play first. I promise I will shoot you if you go post another guideline post. There were so many cases on D2 and you decided to do nothing with them.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2014 10:21 GMT
#3476
<3 Koshi

Remember, COME AT ME BRO
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2014 10:25 GMT
#3477
On June 16 2014 13:32 ritoky wrote:
Doing some random vote analysis real quick for everyone before I give out some reads and stuff:

Those who voted to lynch mafia d1: TheKingOfTheCats (11): marvellosity, Palmar, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi, Koshi, strongandbig, VayneAuthority, Bill Murray, sinani206, Chromatically, Tehpoofter

Those who voted to lynch town d2: HaruRH (7): Rainbows, Chromatically, TicaTica, Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, mattisfoolish

People who lynched mafia yesterday that voted on confirmed town: - 4 - marvellosity, Chromatically, justanothertownie, Koshi

Where the rest of the people who lynched confirmed mafia voted:
- Yamato77 - 2 - ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter
- Dead - 2 - Palmar, Bill Murray
- DNV - strongandbig
- ritoky - 1 - Vayneauthority
- Ketomai - 1 - sinani206

Where the rest of the people who lynched town today voted yesterday

- Rainbows - strongandbig
- TicaTica - ketomai
- mattisfoolish - Meapak_Ziphh

People who have voted on the 2nd largest wagon both times: - 1 - Alakaslam

People who have never voted on one of the 2 largest wagons:

- ritoky - Chromatically, Chromatically
- yamato77 - VayneAuthority, kushm4sta
- sandroba - ExO_, DNV
- gumshoe - Chairman Ray, DNV

Will hopefully post some interpretation of some of this in my reads coming soon.


I hope people see the meaning and irony packed in my voting
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2014 10:27 GMT
#3478
On June 16 2014 10:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.

Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side

Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC


People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.

People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.

[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]

Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.


Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.



Slam: I have no idea how you people are reading him.
Exo: Don't really get a townread here and you gave no reasons for it. Explain?
Me: Things on my own? Like my KotC read? I was scummy on him before marv. And I certainly won't stop sheeping marv if he keeps going after targets I agree on.
MIF: What about their day2 was pretty good?

Rest is somewhat ok for me.


S I'm going to give you all the basis for my read on slam.

HAs anyone ever heard of the site Epicmafia? Well that's where I got my mafia start 2 years ago. It's text based, semi forum-ish, except the entire game lasts like 30mins tops, and there are fifty million setups to play. No lie.

And trolls. Trolls everywhere (including me on rare occasions that I feel like trolling the newbies). And with games going so fast, you rely on gut instinct, and whether or not you can read through the bullshit people present in those games (which I can do pretty damn well).


So basically, the best way I can put it, Slam is like a five year old on epicmafia, trolling and spamming the shit out of chat and you have to read him and interact with him based off of that. So did you see how I interacted with him?

I called him out, questioned his reads, and made him actually give me something I could work with instead of the spam nonsense he usually does. I basically talked to him like a teacher talks t a five year old (Sorry slam, but you know it's true).

Based off of that is how I read slam. His reaction to me talking to him seemed townie.
I hope this helps clarify things.

Hey

I am 8

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2014 10:29 GMT
#3479
On June 16 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:
On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:
C'mon scum double stack me

I can take you all on
On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.

Help me out here buddy.

Why are you town?? And who is the mafia?
On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
I been gone

Just got here

Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot

"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"

Then drive

So

At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.

I am unsure who is scum maybe VA

I see his frog and toad
On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:


There are 5 mafia left, yes?

You gotta give me something better than VA.

But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Yamato? I dunno shizzl

Va I told you I see his frog and toad


Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel.

And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry.

~moc

Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't.


If you read her right here, then you just caught scum


If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2014 10:32 GMT
#3480
On June 16 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:
On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:
C'mon scum double stack me

I can take you all on
On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.

Help me out here buddy.

Why are you town?? And who is the mafia?
On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
I been gone

Just got here

Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot

"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"

Then drive

So

At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.

I am unsure who is scum maybe VA

I see his frog and toad
On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:


There are 5 mafia left, yes?

You gotta give me something better than VA.

But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Yamato? I dunno shizzl

Va I told you I see his frog and toad


Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel.

And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry.

~moc

Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't.


you think she is TMIing or just assuming too much?

TMI.

And,


On June 16 2014 10:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:
On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:
C'mon scum double stack me

I can take you all on
On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.

Help me out here buddy.

Why are you town?? And who is the mafia?
On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
I been gone

Just got here

Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot

"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"

Then drive

So

At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.

I am unsure who is scum maybe VA

I see his frog and toad
On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:


There are 5 mafia left, yes?

You gotta give me something better than VA.

But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Yamato? I dunno shizzl

Va I told you I see his frog and toad


Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel.

And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry.

~moc

Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't.


Actually, I hate the r word, so please don't use that.

Also, i dont think that all. It's just how i get my reads.

But it's obv all this is doing is discrediting me, so im just gonna shut up now.

Continue with whatever, im gonna be afk from this game for awhile.


Playing video maf tonight.

I literally am retarded; socially. Treat me that way as it is appropriate

Asperger's syndrome does not usually make you purposely act insane, but...
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