Doctor Who Mafia 2

On April 01 2014 00:08 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Kita, tell me if I'm missing something w/ your "trap".


You purposefully emulated ur meta from a previous game in order to see if someone would call you scummy for it and not check your previous game? That was your plan to trap scum? And Rayn just happened to do exactly what you were expecting to a tee?


I think the only part of that that is true is that you purposefully emulated ur meta from a previous game. And I think it's cause ur scum and you did it to appear town. Thats why you were hinting for people to go read ur meta. Then you got pissed off that people were calling you scum when you made all that effort to look like you did in that game. So you retconned your "trap".

On April 01 2014 00:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I just can't imagine this @ all coming from a town mindset. The only reason I can imagine someone specifically going out of their way to make their posts reproduce a previous town game is if they're scum. The "town trap" reasoning is pretty flimsy.

On April 01 2014 00:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:

Yeah, I get that. I'm not saying that I think it's something you could do as mafia. That part is obvious. I'm saying I don't see how it's something that anyone would do as town.

On March 31 2014 23:12 kitaman27 wrote:
On raynpelikoneet

So here is what I was doing at the start of this game. I was actually trying to accomplish something with my play. I was reproducing my behavior to a tee from the recent shadow mini mafia game.

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I random voted moments into the game, I refused to provide an explanation when asked, I requested that someone vote with me without details, I asked a similar question when prompted, and I moved off the random vote shortly after.

The goal here was to prompt someone to question my behavior and see if they attempt to make the connection or if they simply pass off my play as scummy. rayn mentioned that he observed shadow and toad and austin played in it, so even if they don't remember the random vote, it would likely be the first place to look as it was my most recent town game. It's important to note that I'm not trying to say that me emulating my shadow mafia play makes me town. I'm saying that the connection is there for anyone interested in finding it.



I was pretty happy that rayn had suggested that was was going to do some research and pushed him in the right direction several times as you can see below.

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On multiple occasions, rayn confirms that he will do the work to back up his initial suspicions.

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Yet when push comes to shove, he decides not to put the effort in. He spends the time into coming up with his thesis that I'm creating a "web of disruption", yet has no interest in backing it up. If he is going to call me scummy, when does he have no interest in catching me?







Now there are three possible explanations:
1) He dropped the ball as town, attacking me without putting in the effort
2) He did the research as mafia, didn't like what he found, and dropped the case to avoid calling me town
3) He is a lazy scum player who didn't want to go after me at a point where several players are calling me town

If rayn thought that I was looking decently townie otherwise, then maybe I'd consider number one. The biggest issue that I have right now is that as far as I can tell, I am rayn's number one scum suspect. He is pushing slam for being anti-town and shows that he may have reconsidered his read on tehpoofer, yet not a word about myself.





rayn describes his play best. I don't think you can argue that he isn't being lazy here. rayn was given the pieces of the puzzle to solve and he chose not to because he "doesn't care".







This line of thought is pretty terrible. He explains his willingness to vote for hopelessness over a minor observation about hope a few hours into the game. Not only does he not consider that foolishness could be wrong, he is using the justification for the vote because he respects foolishness as a player, not because he thinks its a valid argument. He even goes as far as dropping his suspicion of myself due to my interaction with hope.

rayn states that he has done the most scum hunting in the game hands down, he suggests that I am his number one scum read, and he hasn't showed any attempt to figure out my alignment. As he mentioned earlier, he is trying to force the pieces in the wrong order.

The one thing holding me up is
1) His mass claim policy is consistent with his previous behavior as town
2) Slam is one of the most anti-town players in recent memory

Right now I'd probably be leaning towards a rayn lynch and hopefully having a vig take care of slam so he is removed as a discussion topic. I would like to look at a few more individuals before I finalize my vote.