Doctor Who Mafia 2 - Page 31

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

March 30 2014 21:47 GMT

#601

Not really. Rayn is posting what he's posting because of the experience he has playing with such roles. Maybe he knows something we don't? Or maybe he is just wrong? In any case it didn't look like he truly decided to vote slam and stop playing, even if that's what he tried to tell himself and the thread.

Tehpoofter

United States2911 Posts

March 30 2014 21:58 GMT

#602

@Amiko in regards to DJO looking at his filter he is buddying everyone but in a game like this there is probably today a lot of town and a couple scum maybe some third parties. So not really sure what to feel like he also probed Vivax which I was about to do. So I like the same mindset there cause Vivax didn't post at all as mafia the last game I played with both of them.

Overall leaning more townie than scum but I want to see more scum hunting and less town buddying.

thrawn2112

United States6918 Posts

March 30 2014 22:01 GMT

#603

yeah i hope vivax rolled mafia again lol. i think that would be an easy catch

Tehpoofter

United States2911 Posts

March 30 2014 22:07 GMT

#604

Reading through lurkers filters cause nothing else is going on Austin + Jar Jar have just "/in", Gum just trolls about being dr and nothing more.

Vivax came in and through some light content around the weirdest part is that he randomly adds in:

On March 31 2014 03:56 Vivax wrote:
What if there's a traitor in the game and he can claim survivor cause town doesn't know that it's possible?

He randomly piped up about this during me and rayn talking about slam's claim. He really offers very little but has to have been reading a bit to realize there was a claim and questioning the validity of it. I'd like to know what he thinks of it and if he thinks this theory holds water? It almost sounds like he is coming in to nudge us into voting for Slam.

Care to explain vivax?

Tehpoofter

United States2911 Posts

March 30 2014 22:10 GMT

#605

Gonna snag dinner since the thread is dead..... Super glad rayn wants to instant lynch the survivor claim and do nothing else. Look at all the conversation it generates while scum just says thanks and hangs back.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

March 30 2014 22:12 GMT

#606

Vote Count

raynpelikoneet (4) - ~~kitaman27~~, ~~thrawn2112~~, ~~Alakaslam~~, Toadesstern, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, Tehpoofter
Alakaslam (4) - ~~Toadesstern~~, ~~kushm4sta~~, ~~Tehpoofter~~, ~~thrawn2112~~, kitaman27, raynpelikoneet, Djodref, Amiko
kitaman27 (0) - ~~raynpelikoneet~~
thrawn2112 (0) - ~~kitaman27~~
Hopeless1der (0) - ~~Toadesstern~~, ~~raynpelikoneet~~
Toadesstern (0) - ~~raynpelikoneet~~

Not Voting (6) - austinmcc, Hopeless1der, thrawn2112, JarJarDrinks, Vivax, gumshoe

Currently raynpelikoneet is set to be lynched!

Day ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).

Vivax

21978 Posts

March 30 2014 22:45 GMT

#607

The thing about Slam is that we don't know what kind of 3p there is in the game, being a closed setup he should be lynched at some point anyway, but not necessarily today, where we should rather lynch mafia. I don't like Rayn going for the "easy" lynch so quickly and calling it a day, same how I didn't like Toad going 100 % sure on hopeless in one of his initial post.

This post from kita I found scummy:
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On March 30 2014 15:54 kitaman27 wrote:

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lol you amuse me.

But you have it backwards. I'm simply trying to gather the pieces for myself. The puzzle is mine to solve.

As for your "web of disruption" post, it has a catchy name, but I'll respond once you come to an actual conclusion.

thrawn is off my naughty list for the moment.

People of interest:

Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced.

Amiko asking me or hope for the clarification doesn't seem scummy to me. We were probably just around. His lack of opinion and direction does appear scummy however.
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Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless

slam...generally I try to ignore him and the last time I did so I believe he was mafia. Day one survivor claims are usually someone I would lynch, even if I thought they might be a survivor. My biggest worry is that he might be a trolly town who is willing to get lynched and doesn't care, but he wasn't willing to role claim when asked and shows signs of over frustration that doesn't appear genuine. I'll probably leave my vote on him, though we need to avoid the scenario where nobody is under pressure because the lynch is already decided.

kush is someone who usually gets on my nerves early and hasn't done so yet, which is a concern. I seem to remember him playing mafia and acting completely reasonable, but I'll have to look back to familiarize myself with some of his more recent games. In my opinion, thrawn and hope both overreacted to the random vote, yet kush doesn't draw the same conclusion by only expressing suspicion of thrawn. If slam is a survivor, then kush being the first one to defend him may make sense as mafia if he knows his alignment.

This way of talking of "people of interest" summarizing some stuff to show where you stand kinda looks like posting for the sake of posting. Interesting is he only talks (as of suspects) about people that didn't react to his previous behaviour or asked him questions about his intentions.

Vivax

21978 Posts

March 30 2014 22:52 GMT

#608

about people that didn't react to his previous behaviour or asked him questions about his intentions.

Speaking mainly of rayn and thrawn who have been either describing his play as possibly mafia-motivated and thrawn generally asking what kita was up to. Might be others have asked him some stuff but I remembered those two interacting a lot with him. The buddy heuristics thing he used on thrawn was pretty weird in my opinion cause it looks like unserious stuff and it generally causes a lot of confusion cause people always get to hide behind claiming that it wasn't.

Anyway, he backtracked on thrawn and then summarized a bunch of stuff about people other than rayn and thrawn as if he felt under pressure instead of simply trying to make his previous actions transparent like requested.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

March 30 2014 22:56 GMT

#609

oh forgot to change vote
##vote hopeless

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

March 30 2014 23:33 GMT

#610

hopeless vs slam is more appealing to me than rayn vs slam at the moment.

Even if I disagree with some of thing things he is saying, he is taking more stances and following through with them. hope on the other hand is kinda just there responding when he is called upon.

Crossfire99

United States1529 Posts

March 30 2014 23:37 GMT

#611

I'm back. Thanks to Xatalos for his great cohosting and picking up the slack while I was gone. Remind me of questions I didn't answer if I missed one.

When someone changes alignment, they will know they changed alignment. When people die, they will flip their current role and alignment. They will also flip any previous role(s) and alignment(s) that they had, but you won't know when they changed role(s) and alignment(s).

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

March 31 2014 01:22 GMT

#612

Just fux someone's wincon for no reason at all.

Mental note

If closed setup/survivor possible WOTC myself

TL can't handle the pressure

Role is hated for preference

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

March 31 2014 01:23 GMT

#613

You know what

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

March 31 2014 01:24 GMT

#614

I am not sure I like putting up with this with silence.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

March 31 2014 01:24 GMT

#615

You know what else?

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

March 31 2014 01:24 GMT

#616

Sometimes?

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

March 31 2014 01:24 GMT

#617

Spam is not fun to read.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

March 31 2014 01:27 GMT

#618

On March 30 2014 13:49 Introvert wrote:

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What counts is giving to those in need. There are a plethora of charities devoted to helping people for free, they make no statements about "deserving." Apparently unlike the average liberal, they can separate personal action and charity from government coercion. That's because Christianity has always had the view that people are responsible for their own actions but that one is to be generous to those in need. it doesn't say a word about government redistribution, or capitalism. That was my criticism.

There is evidence, if you want to find it. it's complicated though, because while churches do pay their pastors and staff, they also use a large sum of tithes to either improve the community or give to good causes. Never mind the man hours that church people put into helping charities.

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Actually, you could. When you realize that government does a really bad job of redistribution, it makes perfect sense to have a religious and moral society that gives of it's own free will, instead of through the inefficient mechanisms of government. I also like the underlying assumption: that everyone who votes Republican "knows" they are screwing the poor over. Like I said, Christianity emphasizes personal giving and charity as well as "give to Caesar what is Caesar's"

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It's not as simple as "Jesus hated wealth and rich people." He advocated that people GIVE their money. But yes, the Church had many laws dating from some of the Bible's teachings related to charging interest on other Christians. Though I'm not sure how that's relevant.

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As they say, church is for sinners, not for saints

The point is that if you want to argue that Jesus was anti-wealth, you also need to propose a workable alternative, not the massive government failure we have now. Just saying "they are hypocrites!" doesn't help anyone. Nevermind how many people actually do make something of themselves under this system.

I think introvert is scum because his alignment could change and I didn't notice when he said NO IT CANT AND DOESNT HE IS A STABLE TOWN ALIGNED 3P.

Therefore we lynch him for talking about Jesus and Rush Limbaugh on the Internet