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Vivax
21686 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
You have received a A Nuke for Slam - by JJD! Type ##Nuke Player (make sure the player’s name is spelled exactly like their full TL user name) in the thread to fire your nuke at them. The nuke must be fired 12 hours before the end of the phase and the nuke will land at the end of that phase. It will ignore medic or vet protection on the target. PM all the hosts to ensure that the nuke was noticed. | ||
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Vivax
21686 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On April 02 2014 07:05 Vivax wrote: Hopeless who would you lynch today? You dont have any recommendations do you? Because at the moment* I would just lynch kita to avenge rayn. *I am only now starting to open filters, let alone read them. | ||
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Vivax
21686 Posts
On March 31 2014 23:35 Hopeless1der wrote: He literally just analyzed your play and asserted that you are scummy by working through your motives related to "web of disruption" and lack of followup. In what universe is that "doing nothing" or "not trying to solve"? He could just as easily coast along on the slam lynch. On March 31 2014 23:56 Hopeless1der wrote: In my currently preferred scenario, we lynch rayn. If he flips town, hope a vig can get you or slam and probably end up lynching the other one. If he flips scum, ##Unvote: Alakaslam ##Vote: raynpelikoneet You make it look like kita alone is responsible for the lynch when you clearly should understand where he was coming from according to those earlier posts where you found his points on rayn valid. Why kita and not slam btw? | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
Giving JJD a Nuke At the risk of incurring a terrible AlakaCurse… I talked earlier about the Alakaslam vs. gumshoe. I felt Alakaslam was a better safe lynch because (1) gumshoe was idle(town/scum/3p), Alakaslam was spammy(scum/3p) (2) if Slam is a survivor or 3p, mafia may want to keep him alive. Of the people who commented or voted, the preference was: Alakslam preference: Amiko, JarJarDrinks, Djodref, Vivax, kitaman27 (encouraged slam over gumshoe) Gumshoe preference: Austinmcc, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Alakaslam (obvious), tehpoofter Did not comment or I missed it: Toadesstern, hope1ess (Hope1ess did vote slam earlier, but I don’t feel he commented on Alakaslam vs. gumshoe) I mention this both because it may be helpful for me to review later, but also because I feel if someone was going to give the nuke to a player to kill Slam, JJD is a consistent choice with the views expressed yesterday. Fire ze missiles? I don’t feel too strongly about whether you nuke slam or someone else today. However, my preference is absolutely that you use the nuke today because if you hold onto it you are at the very least a tempting conversion/kill target (if you are not scum/3p already). I have no objection to nuking slam. I do think it is possible to use this nuke as a stick to ensure Slam helps town, but I feel like that comes with a lot of liabilities. … however, if slam becomes an irradiated hulk monster, well, may god have mercy on our souls. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On April 02 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote: (1)You make it look like kita alone is responsible for the lynch when you clearly should understand where he was coming from according to those earlier posts where you found his points on rayn valid. (2)Why kita and not slam btw? 1- I did find those points valid. I also have the ghost of confirmed rayn-"LYNCHSLAM100%_unlessyoufind100%mafia_ohlookKitamanismafia"-pelikoneet whispering in my ear. Again, this is not my own read, its sheeping the dead man. 2- The nuke that JJD is about to launch? | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On April 02 2014 07:51 Hopeless1der wrote: 2- The nuke that JJD is about to launch? I think Vivax is asking this: Your preference was to lynch rayn. If rayn flips town, vig and next lynch take care of slam & kita. Vivax's question is, why not lynch slam and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & kita? Or, why not lynch kita and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & slam? Also, in my earlier post I questioned what Vivax quotes there - you write "If he flips scum, " then nothing else. What were you going to write? | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
I could read rayn's games a bit but I'd like to be in thread a little longer before I disappear to reread something else, and it'd be nice to hear from some of the players who have been with him before since they may disagree on rayn's meta. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On April 02 2014 07:55 Amiko wrote: I think Vivax is asking this: Your preference was to lynch rayn. If rayn flips town, vig and next lynch take care of slam & kita. Vivax's question is, why not lynch slam and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & kita? Or, why not lynch kita and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & slam? Also, in my earlier post I questioned what Vivax quotes there - you write "If he flips scum, " then nothing else. What were you going to write? I dont remember...I typed the vote, copied it to vote thread then forgot to finish that train of thought. Probably something along the lines of "I will need to reconsider the thread" or some similar malarky. On April 02 2014 08:00 Amiko wrote: @hope1essrider: I am tempted to sheep dead rayn and feel like usually it's a good idea. But, I have trouble seeing how rayn could be so confident in his vote d1. Have you played with rayn before, do you know if he always presents a d1 read as a sure thing? Or does he only do so when he is sure? I could read rayn's games a bit but I'd like to be in thread a little longer before I disappear to reread something else, and it'd be nice to hear from some of the players who have been with him before since they may disagree on rayn's meta. the short answer is: Yes, rayn will often exaggerate a read to look far more confident than he actually is. However, I believe that if he were given veto powers on the lynch, he'd have had kita hang based on his posts. I thought Vivax was asking why lynch kita instead of lynching slam today. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
On April 02 2014 07:50 Amiko wrote: I’m back in thread, I want to mostly comment about the nuke but if anyone wants me to weigh in on something else specifically just let me know. Giving JJD a Nuke At the risk of incurring a terrible AlakaCurse… I talked earlier about the Alakaslam vs. gumshoe. I felt Alakaslam was a better safe lynch because (1) gumshoe was idle(town/scum/3p), Alakaslam was spammy(scum/3p) (2) if Slam is a survivor or 3p, mafia may want to keep him alive. Of the people who commented or voted, the preference was: Alakslam preference: Amiko, JarJarDrinks, Djodref, Vivax, kitaman27 (encouraged slam over gumshoe) Gumshoe preference: Austinmcc, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Alakaslam (obvious), tehpoofter Did not comment or I missed it: Toadesstern, hope1ess (Hope1ess did vote slam earlier, but I don’t feel he commented on Alakaslam vs. gumshoe) I mention this both because it may be helpful for me to review later, but also because I feel if someone was going to give the nuke to a player to kill Slam, JJD is a consistent choice with the views expressed yesterday. Fire ze missiles? I don’t feel too strongly about whether you nuke slam or someone else today. However, my preference is absolutely that you use the nuke today because if you hold onto it you are at the very least a tempting conversion/kill target (if you are not scum/3p already). I have no objection to nuking slam. I do think it is possible to use this nuke as a stick to ensure Slam helps town, but I feel like that comes with a lot of liabilities. … however, if slam becomes an irradiated hulk monster, well, may god have mercy on our souls. Dude epiphany This is absolutely possible with my role I think Depends, would have to survive the blast... Dude I don't know whether I actually want to run that risk voluntarily | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
On April 02 2014 08:00 Amiko wrote: @hope1essrider: I am tempted to sheep dead rayn and feel like usually it's a good idea. But, I have trouble seeing how rayn could be so confident in his vote d1. Have you played with rayn before, do you know if he always presents a d1 read as a sure thing? Or does he only do so when he is sure? I could read rayn's games a bit but I'd like to be in thread a little longer before I disappear to reread something else, and it'd be nice to hear from some of the players who have been with him before since they may disagree on rayn's meta. Yeah he will do this. Got emo recently and can't remember much. But if Rayn wa absolutely certain, and it is a player who doesn't change too much, I would trust it | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17322 Posts
On April 02 2014 07:51 Hopeless1der wrote: 1- I did find those points valid. I also have the ghost of confirmed rayn-"LYNCHSLAM100%_unlessyoufind100%mafia_ohlookKitamanismafia"-pelikoneet whispering in my ear. Again, this is not my own read, its sheeping the dead man. 2- The nuke that JJD is about to launch? Hmm it was Kita? Hmmm... ... I am not entirely sure. Hmm. I don't actually know if I would trust Rayn's judgement here. I may or may not get back I you on this, becoming an irradiated planar dragon sounds cool | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On April 02 2014 08:05 Hopeless1der wrote: I thought Vivax was asking why lynch kita instead of lynching slam today. You may be right and that could be Vivax's question. But, could you answer the question I thought asked? ( for ease: ) Your preference was to lynch rayn. If rayn flips town, vig and next lynch take care of slam & kita. Vivax's question is, why not lynch slam and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & kita? Or, why not lynch kita and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & slam? I think there is a straightforward answer anyway but eh maybe you'll surprise me  | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On April 02 2014 07:50 Amiko wrote: Of the people who commented or voted, the preference was: Alakslam preference: Amiko, JarJarDrinks, Djodref, Vivax, kitaman27 (encouraged slam over gumshoe) Gumshoe preference: Austinmcc, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Alakaslam (obvious), tehpoofter Did not comment or I missed it: Toadesstern, hope1ess (Hope1ess did vote slam earlier, but I don’t feel he commented on Alakaslam vs. gumshoe) Also for completionist sake, gumshoe did not comment because he was not here. | ||
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Amiko
United States1725 Posts
On April 02 2014 08:08 Alakaslam wrote: Dude epiphany This is absolutely possible with my role I think Depends, would have to survive the blast... Dude I don't know whether I actually want to run that risk voluntarily Slam don't you feel the game might be more fun if there was a constant threat of a nuke? Also I'll mention that since no one died last night, it seems significantly less likely that Slam is a serial killer (I remember someone proposed that yesterday). | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Good thing JJD got a nuke. Now I'm waiting for him to launch it on Slam. Also, to answer austin, I removed Amiko and Toad from my top town reads because they were on rayn lynch, and it's difficult for me to understand how you could decide to lynch rayn yesterday. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On April 02 2014 08:15 Amiko wrote: You may be right and that could be Vivax's question. But, could you answer the question I thought asked? ( for ease: ) Your preference was to lynch rayn. If rayn flips town, vig and next lynch take care of slam & kita. Vivax's question is, why not lynch slam and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & kita? Or, why not lynch kita and have vig & next lynch kill rayn & slam? I think there is a straightforward answer anyway but eh maybe you'll surprise me I preferred to lynch rayn partially for "information" purposes, the wagons and peoples reads etc, and partially because I was more inclined to believe he was being a huge bully, creating a toxic environment and refusing to do anything productive. As it turns out rayn is just as capable of being demoralized as anyone else, but I guess I just hold him to a higher standard than other players. Slam imo is a bad lynch because he's likely 3rd party. You're never going to get a useful discussion surrounding his alignment. That meant that for me the lynch was between kita and rayn, and at least on D1 I thought rayn was scummier and worth lynching. | ||
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