III Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition

On March 10 2014 16:53 JieXian wrote:
hahaha the roles are so funny, and the thread too :D

and DarthPunk :O

On March 15 2014 10:10 Blazinghand wrote:
if you're a town vig will you try to lynch him?

On March 18 2014 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HAve you played scum lately? It's fucking hard.

On March 18 2014 10:49 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Titanic 1 was a scumstomp because everyone was stoopid. 10-4 will be fine.

On March 19 2014 06:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay guys, host made a boo boo. you cant lynch him.

On March 19 2014 06:08 Palmar wrote:
The only problem with this game is that I have a certain standard for my mspaint pictures. I'm not just gonna throw something out there.

On March 19 2014 06:26 Coagulation wrote:
VE Should we give palm a pass day 1 for being shit mafia player?

On March 19 2014 06:28 Palmar wrote:

He literally just did.. or does that not count?

On March 19 2014 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
I have a theory. DP thinks this game is scum favoured. DP likes keeping his town ratio up. DP requests scum so as not to lose town win ratio. DP is scum.

On March 19 2014 06:44 Holyflare wrote:


I'm a great art student

On March 15 2014 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Before I get my role PM

If I am vig I will Vig Coag

If I am town I will try to lynch Coag

If I am scum I will shoot Coag

If I am scum I will try and lynch Coag

On March 19 2014 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where do we find clues Holyflare?

On March 19 2014 07:02 Hopeless1der wrote:

when was this...stupid and terrible holyflare is scum

On March 19 2014 07:04 Koshi wrote:
DotA is over. Game was is horrible.

On March 19 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
cultured: he went full choose your own adventure mode, bussed a teammate for all the towncred and soloed to victory off championship belt reputation
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia

On March 19 2014 07:10 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is interested I am following Holyflare atm.

On March 19 2014 07:12 Koshi wrote:

I think you are scummy scum.

On March 19 2014 07:18 Holyflare wrote:
Read the last few posts of DP's. "Hmm Holyflare did this as scum.. Hmm, Holyflare did this as town! Hmm, it's best to just let him post and it's pretty straightfoward! Hmmmmm..... maybe Holyflare is scum"

wtf is that? There's no strong entry questioning a lot of logic, there's no pointing out errors there's nothing.. just pointless wifom, interesting that you liked that weak as hell post though Palmar.

On March 19 2014 07:08 Holyflare wrote:


How does that apply here at all? In that regard I am thus bussing DP because that's what I do in my scum games. Therefore the case is in fact not horrible and you should sheep it. If I am town, I am generally correct and thus in fact you should sheep it. Either way, painting me in a negative light based on 1 game (whereas dp has stated anti policy things in numerous games, check the DB and past game filters) but still does it here. Furthermore, his overdefensive nature was seen very heavily in vengeful where he went full blow retard overreaction. This game is a much toned down version of that but still defensive because he doesn't like being critiqued. It is easy to find scum DP and I have done it.

Follow me. Oh scummy number 2.

On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:

I liked what Kush said.
I liked what Holyflare said.
I am not liking how you construct your scumhunting posts. The post on rayn was pretty non committal, the post on Holyflare the same.

I am just pointing this out so you try your bestest to be like marv in this game.

On March 19 2014 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare what will you gain from making DarthPunk mad?

On March 19 2014 07:22 Holyflare wrote:
because he's in the qt with you

On March 19 2014 07:25 Coagulation wrote:
dp why would you want to lynch the most protown entity ever allowed in a mafia game?
a normal hydra is protown. wit each head the protowniness compounds.

On March 19 2014 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
joy?

Nothing really, he gets angry as both alignments sure. Yet, to push him slightly and get those overly defensive posts at the same time as spreading useless posts is actually hinting more at a scum alignment to DP. It's like trying to troll while spreading doubt and when he gets called out on things it's "oh but it was just a joke see?". I don't think it looked too jokey, or more - too trying to be jokey with a hint of truth than anything.

Look at his opening in town games, it's always inquisitive, questioning, pushing! Here, it is not.

On March 19 2014 07:28 Coagulation wrote:
Do you think it would be obvious if we are scum?

On March 19 2014 07:30 Palmar wrote:


Why on earth is that odd? You posted something I had noticed myself (ie: rayn did not immediately followed up) which is a fair observation.

On March 19 2014 07:32 Koshi wrote:

I don't like policy point he brought up. I like were he points out you are not trying to read into the hydra. Like you don't really bother reading further into rayn or Hopeless.

When I read Holyflare/Coag posts on you I felt instantmy like "hey this sounds smart", when I read your posts I was like "ok w.e but what are you saying here exactly" and when I read it again I realized you were saying nothing.

But you got to know DP, it's not that I don't like you. It's that I like Holyflare.

On March 19 2014 07:34 Coagulation wrote:
its being implied its scummy cause u coulda went and got organized in a scum QT rayn.
but its actually null cause you coulda just went and took an hour long shit for all anyone here fucking knows.

On March 19 2014 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is town.

On March 19 2014 07:33 Holyflare wrote:




Hopeless has played with me as scum in LXIII where I wasn't "stupid and terrible", he knows trolling isn't necessarily alignment indicative either. He mentions:



So he knows this can come from TOWN Holyflare because I was town in the scooby doo game, which he knows because he said about scooby doo. Yet, finds it apt to say that terrible casework is scum holyflare and ignores all other instances of it happening. My case is "terrible" on you because it was based on 1 game a while ago from you (there's more recent instances too), yet, he wants to lynch me based off 1 game too.

Pushing suspicion, false information, wanting to 'lynch' someone based off lazy meta, that's all scum intentions.

On March 19 2014 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think that's a good post at all DarthPunk, in fact it's really bad.

What the fuck is up with you and Palmar?

On March 19 2014 07:40 Hopeless1der wrote:

he's going to ask errbody about it since its one of the most productive use of threadspace at the moment.

On March 19 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To clarify i am actually not going to make a cigarrette, just smoke one.

On March 19 2014 07:56 Coagulation wrote:
thats fucking stupid theres no dissonance at all.
I said people are saying its scummy and this is why its fucking not.

On March 19 2014 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In fact is this kush posting?

On March 19 2014 08:06 Palmar wrote:


I think that was actually a pretty good post.

@rayn, talking about things that are non-alignment-indicative is not bad. Because for the most part these are the only things you can talk about because mafia doesn't out themselves in every post. It's perfectly reasonable to point out stuff even if it may never lead to anything.

On March 19 2014 08:07 Koshi wrote:

when I said play along I meant cooperate.

On March 19 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote:

No I'm saying rayn's point is good.

On March 19 2014 08:11 Koshi wrote:

rayn always gets to be the greater role.
Koshi also pretty cool guy.

On March 19 2014 08:16 Coagulation wrote:


nope Its coag and the fact that ITS AN HOUR INTO THE FUCKING GAME WHEN I MADE THE COMMENT DOESNT STRIKE YOU AS A LITTLE FUCKING EARLY TO BE MAKING INDICATIONS OF ALIGNMENTS.

No of course not cause your more interested in SELLING BULLSHIT than fucking reasonable reads.

On March 19 2014 08:23 Palmar wrote:


Town hero thank you based DarthPunk

On March 19 2014 08:27 Koshi wrote:
This isn't shit at all DP.
Are we back to not trying to read into what people are saying?

I can see Hydra being to fast on the posting there because they were very active in the start and just typing that reply to type it as town. Very possible.

On March 19 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:


This question is also relevant to 3/4 of the thread you know. I read that coag post completely differently though. What is interesting to see is how it was pointed out that dp being overdefensive was scummy (by coag) but then they completely went over the overdefensive line in response to you.

On March 19 2014 08:32 Koshi wrote:
The red reply thing? That was good.
3 people were saying rayn case was good. He had to reply.
rayn kept up pressure.
Coag kept replying. With more caps.

I don't see overdefensive.

On March 19 2014 07:18 Koshi wrote:

I liked what Kush said.

On March 19 2014 07:19 Koshi wrote:
pointing out overdefensive post. Could be Coag. But it looks like Kush.

On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote:
You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.

Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.

I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah.

On March 19 2014 08:41 Coagulation wrote:


the one that would start with a slow chant of "RAYN WAS INACTIVE AT START" and turn to a maddening rumble of "RAYN WAS SCUMMY AT START"

On March 19 2014 08:44 Koshi wrote:

I didn't like your early posting. I didn't like the non committal stuff. I didn't like the defensive attitude of other posts. I was reading the thread and I was actually looking at your posts strangely and then people put pressure on you and I simply +1 on everything. because I felt that needed to be done and they had a point.

Out of everybody I really believe you had a really weak-ass start and I gave you a scummy point. The point is already put down and cannot be erased.

-Koshi his judgement-

On March 19 2014 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i have no idea why anyone would think they need to "defend" me or stop a bandwagon which isn't even there.
When i read the post i actually thought Coag meant i was trying to start a bandwagon on Palmar which would make a bit more sense (although it's false) but there DEFINITELY was no abdwagon starting on me lol.

On March 19 2014 08:49 Coagulation wrote:
bullshit. YOU were refering to "NOTEWORTHY"

Bullshit
bullshit







There is nothing about DP HERE AT ALL "WHAT DO YOU CALL IT" IS REFERING TO NOTEWORTHY.

NOW YOU JUST GOT CAUGHT IN A LIE.

On March 19 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Exactly my thoughts.

I am not skimming rayn atm cuz he is rayn and I need to keep up with him cuz we will be super duper scumfinding bros but I am not anymore interested in finding out what Coag means with his posts. I am simply not going to lynch Coag.

On March 19 2014 09:25 Coagulation wrote:
lmfao

Im here getting tunneled to death for trying to explain to rayn my thoughts on what palms posts are supposed to mean and we have thrawn here who just stops by to drop a ninja vote and giggly here just derping out and its no big deal cause coag tried to give his opinion and join the discussion.

fantastic work ladies.

On March 19 2014 09:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
and i mean every game. Games where he hasn't signed up. Games where he's the host. coag will be lynched every time.

On March 19 2014 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

See you in ~45 hours.

On March 19 2014 09:46 Giggletummy wrote:
This bit I like.




Which is quite a small piece of that whole. Therefore -




Specific reasoning inc

On March 19 2014 09:46 Coagulation wrote:
so does that make rayn confirmed scum or confirmed bad?

On March 19 2014 09:48 Holyflare wrote:


It is nothing to do with rayn's alignment and everything to do with DP's. That is NOT the post a town DP makes. It just isn't. You think he has an 80% win rate by pointing out wifom every game that especially doesn't apply to rayn? No, he's inquisitive and actively shows that he doesn't know what is going on by being that inquisitive guy. So to point to this post in paticular after a lot had already gone on and to further say it is towny??? (what a joke) is really really odd from someone that prides themselves on finding town people day 1. You neglected to mention anything that had happened at the start when DP had been super wishy washy and entered by pointing to this post. It WAS weird.

Your story is irrelevant too, I do not care.

DP is being too know it all this game to be town. He is scum. Get on my wagon.

On March 19 2014 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
I do not care what you think about your own meta DP. You make posts that question things, you don't know what's going on and you try and solve things. Here? "what is hf doing with those posts" "oh i feel so vindicated on coag yay"

On March 19 2014 09:54 Coagulation wrote:


yeah im sorry but im not buying rayn is town one fucking bit. I finally start getting traction in defending myself and he ignores it and instead he afks with a policy lynch vote on me?

Bullshit.

On March 19 2014 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
How is my case on hopeless crap? He called me scum based off of 1 game where I did the same thing despite him actively reading and referencing another game where I did the same thing and was town. He has also played a game with me where we were both scum and I posted coherently. What is there not to understand DP and why are you not reading into it anymore or asking people about it since this coag thing is over?

On March 19 2014 10:01 Coagulation wrote:
palmar, coag did that by himself. we don't even have a hydra qt.

and to dp qqing about the multiheaded hydra, right now i think it's only 2 people actually.

also I'm kind of in disagreement with my other half. I think DP is pure scum and I would dayvig him immediately if I could.

On March 19 2014 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
and then cherry picked one to make me look like scum

On March 19 2014 10:05 Coagulation wrote:
yeah this is kush.
ive solved australian mafia. see my last several games with mocsta.

On March 19 2014 10:06 Holyflare wrote:


there is awful and then there is downright lying, HE REFERENCED THE FUCKING TOWN GAME WHERE I DID THE SAME THING IN THE SAME POST "scooby doo" is the fucking game i'm talking about and he used it in the post after he accused me

it's like trying to talk to a 3 year old or something that just doesn't get it

On March 19 2014 10:10 Coagulation wrote:


oh and fuck what palmar said about this being good because it's not.

Anyway, this is just one of many things. I will post others later, but I believe you shouldn't post a case asap because that helps the scum change his behavior to look townie.

On March 19 2014 06:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Find out next time in: 'Nothing much is happening Mafia'

On March 19 2014 10:13 Holyflare wrote:
rayn said he agreed with it ~_~ it didn't gain traction because you hammered on about what do you think of bla bla and then nobody wanted to respond because you were being useless and then the rayn thing happened so don't even bothere saying "because it gained no traction"


How can you possibly disagree.

He modded the scum game (culture) he is referencing
He read the scooby doo game where I did the same thing but was town as he mentioned "scooby doo"
He enters the thread and the only thing he does is to say I'm scum because of culture, despite directly referencing the game I did the same thing as town in

You say you disagree and provide 0 reasoning for it other than "meh maybe it's a bad case", that does not correlate at all, stop being bad and question hopeless.

---

I don't care about rayn, he rage quit and he's dumb as shit for doing it, he pushed a mediocre case out of nothing and then left because of someone posting their seal. He did the same thing in culture (- the pushing) about mocsta and was town. He's useless. I don't know about alignment.

On March 19 2014 10:19 Coagulation wrote:
DP you were implying that it could be scummy. say some townie shit if you can and I will change my mind. but i doubt you can so i probably wont.

On March 19 2014 10:21 Coagulation wrote:
^cause 2 cases in the first 5 hours isn't enough

On March 19 2014 10:22 Coagulation wrote:
like I seriously cant fucking fathom how the fuck rayn can policy lynch me because I POSTED MY SEAL when people asked me to do it and I would clearly be in a way shittier position if I refused to do it.

IF DP Said "hey coag post your seal"

and coag said "hey DP NO fuck off"

- 10 minutes later entire fucking game has vote on coag.


how the fuck would that ever be optimal for me to do as town? It would clearly get me fucking lynched. Rayns fake anger at me posting a seal and claiming its a policy lynch is a complete anti town agenda and 100% scum mind set because he doesnt see that I "have no choice but to post the seal"

what the fuck did he want me to say?
"no im not gonna post my seal so that I can be lynched to shit instantly"

fake anger and a scum mindset folks.

On March 19 2014 10:30 Coagulation wrote:
No darthpunk. He doesnt need to say anything. the situation has already presented itself.

He made up a "damned if you do damned if you dont" situation that had zero correct response for me.

Do you not see that? can someone else acknowledge what im seeing?

On March 19 2014 10:31 Holyflare wrote:


you are being intolerable -.- read his filter jesus

mocsta was OBVIOUS OBVIOUS scum but even then when I made case after case on him he made posts like:



pointed out things he disliked, things he didn't agree with and things he agreed with and then made tells from that and eventually mocsta got lynched but it took a really really really long time!

Here? He's posted that he LIKED a part of my post, didn't comment or elaborate on the rest and then VOTED me. How does that correlate at all?

On March 19 2014 10:37 Hopeless1der wrote:

This is dumb, even for you palmar.

On March 19 2014 12:03 Tehpoofter wrote:



This is where I'm at. I'm bad at sizing votes so ill recap.


Town: Me, Koshi
Mafia: VE, Thrawn
Fence From scummiest to least scummy, Coag, Darthpunk, Palmer, Rayn, Holyflare

Reasons to come for some of them except VE, he is my most scummy because he tells me hes good then doesn't talk at all bump that lurking bullshit.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Thrawn comes in with the vote on coag and doesnt say anything else but one little post which I believe coag pointed out which moved him from scummy to more fence.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Coag vs Rayn the fight of the century: I think Rayn looks more town for bitching out and afk voting seems like a poor mafia play. Coag tried to defend himself really early super hard but seemed town the further it got into the day he actually stopped tunneling but his initial reaction just read scummy to me.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!

On March 19 2014 12:03 Tehpoofter wrote:



This is where I'm at. I'm bad at sizing votes so ill recap.


Town: Me, Koshi
Mafia: VE, Thrawn
Fence From scummiest to least scummy, Coag, Darthpunk, Palmer, Rayn, Holyflare

Reasons to come for some of them except VE, he is my most scummy because he tells me hes good then doesn't talk at all bump that lurking bullshit.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Thrawn comes in with the vote on coag and doesnt say anything else but one little post which I believe coag pointed out which moved him from scummy to more fence.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Coag vs Rayn the fight of the century: I think Rayn looks more town for bitching out and afk voting seems like a poor mafia play. Coag tried to defend himself really early super hard but seemed town the further it got into the day he actually stopped tunneling but his initial reaction just read scummy to me.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Palmer I'm null on what he said he kinda ducked out of the whole early game thing and didnt add enough for me to gain alignment from.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!

On March 19 2014 12:49 Holyflare wrote:
How can you call this guy with 100 posts on the forum scum when hopeless made even more useless reads and fails to even clarify them and hopeless plays a shit tonne of forum mafia. The same with giggletummy. There is no asking him to elaborate there is no questioning. Just a case and bam he's scum. DP you have fallen very far.

On March 19 2014 12:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think you're wrong dp, my initial reaction to tehpoofter's posts was "aw how cute, look at the little townie"

On March 19 2014 12:52 Holyflare wrote:
Why ignore the entirety of what i wrote and just pick out the bit about you? Why is he scum when he is brand new to forum mafia over hopeless who did the same thing but is not new? Why not giggletummy who put a vote down while agreeing with the person he is voting?

On March 19 2014 12:53 Holyflare wrote:
What makes this guy scum over everyone else that has done the same thing? Why do you pick and choose when to use the 'bad towns use bad meta' for hopeless but not the 'bad towns make wishy washy lists' for him?

On March 19 2014 12:59 Holyflare wrote:
He has made no proper case at all and all he other reads are 'just because'. If you are town in this game i fail to see how you got 80% because this is downright shoddy

On March 19 2014 13:00 thrawn2112 wrote:


it's a gut read so there's not much more I can say about it.

i wasn't convinced by your case. for example the ve read made sense. i'm guessing there might be some context there (ve told me he was good) that might could be explained or referenced but it's not as if his VE read comes out of nowhere like you suggest.

On March 19 2014 13:30 Holyflare wrote:


It lines up with how a video mafia player posts.

On March 19 2014 13:32 Holyflare wrote:


Go away if you don't get it.

On March 19 2014 13:34 Tehpoofter wrote:



Yeah I don't have a real read on VE. I said that in the post it was a bullshit read cause I don't have any scum. ITs a ping. VE is why I'm even in this game. I wanted to see him in the game doing things cause he is the one who wanted me to play its not like I voted for him. Cool your jets DP I'm town.

On March 19 2014 13:36 Holyflare wrote:


Rayn has no case other than my case and what thrawn said, what the actual shit man....

On March 19 2014 13:38 Tehpoofter wrote:



Its a could be read... its a prod. Its like hey lets check this guy out. I think that VE is mafia because he isn't living up to my expectations of what he would play like in forum mafia. If I'm wrong great then i get to read him as town. I do appreciate the pressure because it was bad and poorly explained its something I do in video mafia awesome and apparently not the best here

On March 19 2014 13:39 Holyflare wrote:
God you are 1000% mafia

On March 19 2014 13:43 Holyflare wrote:
You said not long ago that a new towny comes and says he doesn't know who scum is, which he just did. So is he town now dp?

Also banks, you said you liked me reading between the lines. Can you elaborate on that?

On March 19 2014 13:46 Holyflare wrote:


No. He is inquisitive, asks questions that lead to conclusions and pushes people. He has 7 pages of filter and has done none of that. He's now flipping his reads and only just started asking questions to you after he called you 100% scum and he is sure of it.

On March 19 2014 13:46 Holyflare wrote:


No. He is inquisitive, asks questions that lead to conclusions and pushes people. He has 7 pages of filter and has done none of that. He's now flipping his reads and only just started asking questions to you after he called you 100% scum and he is sure of it.

On March 19 2014 13:41 DarthPunk wrote:


Well that makes sense. (The VE thing.) But why do you not have any other reads considering the large amount of stuff that has been posted?

On March 19 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote:
You just proved my point dp. You say he's 100% scum but then aak questions after you've made the case trying to prove it.

Also thrawn, for now, ok.

Giggletummy posts are supee bad and my meta of him was very good, what do you guys think of that?

On March 19 2014 14:08 Holyflare wrote:
Uh what. That's exactly what hopeless said about rayn. Why does him coming back and posting absolve him from anything he's done this game? Reasons for a vote aren't alignment indicative.

On March 19 2014 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think thrawn is scum for his stuff surrounding Coag and his totally absence of trying to find out the game, pointing out useless shit and generally not being a town leader.
Dp and HF both town, dunno why HF continues attacking DP for stuff that happened a while ago when he has other people he thinks is more scummy like hopeless.

Tehpoofters first post also smells bad for me, totally wishy washy with easy reads and gives out the VE is scum because he hasnt been playing when VE didnt even post 5 posts so far. And after that he says its a fake read but continues pushing it.

Im not sure about hopeless but he wont lurk as scum or town now, he is a changed man!

Palmar whats the point of discussing Coag's modkill? Can you move on and find scum on your best day?

On March 19 2014 18:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
since like his last 3 games. Is there a point?

On March 19 2014 18:27 thrawn2112 wrote:


I know what you mean but I sorta feel the same way about DP

On March 19 2014 18:22 Palmar wrote:
There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off.

On March 19 2014 18:48 thrawn2112 wrote:


yeah i'm sorry lol.

what I said there is mostly related to why I asked holyflare to stop talking about you. I think that if he's town, the way he's going about attacking you (being a giant douche) is making it difficult for me to get a good read on either of you

On March 19 2014 19:03 thrawn2112 wrote:


dp:



bolded "i have this scum read on you that i'm going to lazily ignore because of 1 previous game"



I would really like to know what dp thinks about HF but apparently he is unable to explain what he thinks. It's pretty furstrating because while I hate the cop-out, I completely understand the reasoing behind it.

hf:

pretty much any of his posts that are directed at DP. they've got too much fluff in them that's cmpletely devoted to ad hom or similar malicious rhetoric that it makes it really hard for me to figure out if HF is being genuine

On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?

On March 19 2014 19:22 Palmar wrote:


My bad, I forgot to talk to myself.

On March 19 2014 19:51 thrawn2112 wrote:



hmm?

On March 19 2014 19:37 Palmar wrote:


How about you comment on something instead of just asking questions.

You can ask questions when your filter is 50+ posts. Until then, go do something useful.

On March 19 2014 19:59 thrawn2112 wrote:


i dont remember calling vivax mafia

On March 19 2014 20:11 Koshi wrote:

It was me.

On March 19 2014 20:23 Koshi wrote:

You are saying Vivax is incapable to say somewhat reasonable things as mafia? Or doesn't do it?
What is your stance on Vivax?

On March 19 2014 20:34 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody explain to me what he thinks about Hopeless and HF and why it correlates to the fact they made the game serious.

Also. Wtf was his drawing all about?

On March 19 2014 20:52 Koshi wrote:
He calls people out for calling Vivax mafia.
He thinks Vivax said pretty reasonable things.
He can't explain what Vivax said.

-ok!-

On March 19 2014 22:47 Djodref wrote:


And why did you ignore Coag and VE drawn seals ?

On March 20 2014 00:03 Holyflare wrote:



well it was straightforward for hopeless: I made a joke post against dp and then another one about the coag hydra and him being scum because of it but used "definitive language", hopeless jumped on it and called me scum because I did stuff like this in culture mini mafia, he referenced the term "scooby doo" which I used in really small mafia where I did the same thing but was town. It looked like he was cherry picking meta to paint me in a scummy light for people that did not know about those games and was very scummy until he explained his logic, he still hasn't backed off of me and is still defending stuff about that which happened in the first like 2 hours of the game instead of commenting about anything else in the game

dp's post count is irrelevant, it was his posting style that led me onto him but i'm backing off of him for a bit because people don't like me talking about it

On March 19 2014 06:48 Holyflare wrote:


DP is legitimately scum.

On March 19 2014 06:55 Holyflare wrote:



and here is the proof:





Insta votes the coag hydra even though he has categorically stated that they are op as town and crap at scum, follows through with a shit policy when even in previous games he states:

(witchcraft as town)

and doesn't try and find the alignment of the hydra! Has 1 page of filter already and it says nothing compared to most of the start to his games!

gg 1 scum down

On March 20 2014 03:21 Palmar wrote:

I think you're bad.

I propose that everyone who wants to kill giggletummy also announces whether they're agreeing with my reasons or your reasons and then we'll see whose reasons are better.

This means that everyone who votes giggle will also say which case he's sheeping.

a) Palmar's glorious case about failing to deliver on content.
b) rayn's case about some random offhand comment about some irrelevant dude.

On March 20 2014 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to give you my thoughts on his entire filter because he has one and I can.

His intro post is odd because on the one hand it gives "content" which he then needs to explain if asked, but on the other hand it's content that is easily dismissable because A) it's so early and no one has done anything and B) the reasoning he gives is so nebulous and largely non-alignment-indicative that it can pretty much just be taken for what it is - an MSPaint drawing in a forum game. But he /does/ give reasoning so meh.

The weird part is where he states explicitly that he doesn't have a read on me, that he's pinging for a reaction and that you can ignore it. Like, okay fine. So he was pinging me.

But I have to wonder. What is he expecting from me that I must be scum because I'm not already tearing it up. After all, I'm among the first people in the thread in spite of my early disappearance. I was the first to Paint a Painting. THAT early in the game, I'd say most of that stuff is more town-indicative than scum-indicative.

Anyway moving on, he then interjects into the HF-DP discussion to ask HF if DP's read makes him scum, in a way that seems like he's on the DP-town side of things. This is...fine to me. He doesn't ask in a way that makes you think HF looks worse, he feels like he thinks HF and DP are BOTH town, which I sort of agree with.

And he then pockets Vivax hard. Not sure if intentional, but Vivax has said some townie things and I agree that he looks town, so he may have just been overstating it or whatever.

Ultimately I think Banks is PROOOOBABLY town. I just agree with a couple of the things he's saying in what he's not saying, and in spite of him consistently calling me scum I think he's probably town.

On March 20 2014 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am assuming you are defending Vivax because in my opinion there is no real other case based on meta on anyone, is there?

On March 20 2014 03:22 Vivax wrote:


I don't even know if I'm allowed to post schedule yet but let me break down my day for you Koshi, since I think you are town and will probably listen to reason.

I got up at roughly 5 AM, started reading the thread around that time, caught the train at 7:15, got to anatomy lesson at 8:00 where the dude talked about some guy breaking his tympanum while scratching the inside of his ear with a spaghetti during his cooking by causing a vagus nerve induced coughing reflex while doing so. They had to poull that piece of spaghetti out and it was al dente.

Lessons went on until 15:15, last one was social psychology, topic interpersonal attraction, you need a hip to waist ratio of 0,9 to hit on girls, lesson of the day, brunettes in night clubs are considered the most attractive but blondes are hit on most often (lolz) and a bunch of other kinda questionable experiments. Waited for book shop to open so I could borrow a biochemistry book, drove home at 7:08. I'll show you the fucking train route planner on the internet if I have to.

And now I'm frankly scared to wade through all of this thread in my condition cause I'd much rather do it while I'm not sleepdrunk lest you want me to post half-assed or fallacious stuff, and I cba to not sleep when I need to to play mafia. So do me a favour and cut me some slack until I can scumhunt properly. Kthxnight.

On March 20 2014 03:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
excuse me for not wanting to wade through your early shitposting hf. lately I think you've been really townie but that stuff in the beginning reminded me of all the reasons I hate playing mafia. you were being needlessly antagonistic. i'm not dp, and despite not knowing his alignment I felt bad for him because of how you were playing the bully. you were accusing DP of doing nothng while at the same time, spending all of your energy making sure that he can't get anything accomplished thanks to your constant one liner interjections and useless insults. all of which (the insults and useless one liners) made it really hard for me to judge either of you based the arguments you were having, so I decided I wasn't going to care about your alignments until you guys started doing other things. and that is why I asked you to stfu about dp.

so yes, in the context of my job as a townie I am bad for skimming all of that, but I don't care

On March 20 2014 04:02 Holyflare wrote:


Leaning heavily towards yes

On March 20 2014 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Well this is where we heavily disagree.

On March 20 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't have to do shit friend. I like the lynch and I like both of your reasons. You can't make me choose.

On March 20 2014 08:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Caught up DP?

On March 20 2014 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol you read slow.

On March 20 2014 08:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
for making me doubt HF lol

On March 20 2014 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare is an excellent cop check regardless of what happens on D1.

On March 19 2014 17:52 Djodref wrote:


I'm catching up but I just wanted to mention that I think it is really an easy way to get an excuse to not contribute as scum. And if he was that much concerned about seals, regardless of his alignment, he could have mentioned it at this point (beginning of the game).

VE also drew something similar and rayn didn't react at that point.

My point is, you shouldn't base your assessment of rain's alignment on this. It doesn't make him look good from my point of view.

On March 19 2014 22:28 Djodref wrote:


I don't like how rayn is pushing his lynch targets, I think he is spending more time arguing for the sake of arguing instead of presenting sound arguments which would convince us to lynch Coag/Hopeless/GT with him.
The flip of Coag makes him look bad imo, given the time he spent arguing with him, and I don't understand why he didn't notice the drawn seal the first time if he was ready to AFK the game for it.
I don't understand what he has against Hopeless exactly and I wouldn't mind him explaining again. The scooby doo thing looks minor to me but I honestly don't want to read a previous game.
tl;dr rayn is rather scummy for me at the moment

On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.

On March 19 2014 23:24 Djodref wrote:


I'm suspicious of you for several reasons.

• You pinned Coag as mafia for one useless post and a point about kush's meta.
  =>How could you be so sure it was kush posting ?
  
• You spent a lot of time arguing with Coag and clarifying some minor points, and it was messing up the thread from my point of view.
  =>Why didn't you bring up new arguments ?
  
• You announce that you go AFK because of the seal thing, when they were already seals drawned in thread way before
  =>Looked too easy for me
  
• I didn't understand where Hopeless was lying.
  

That being said, the post of Coag was indeed scummy, but it is a little not enough much for me to spend so much time and thread space about it.
Also I don't think it's a good idea to lynch you today because of your activity and also because I don't feel like I could push a lynch on you. And you have good points about GT.
tl;dr I don't trust you, you are potential mafia on my list, but I would rather lynch someone else today.

Could you answer me why you chose to support an Hopeless lynch instead of a GT lynch ?

On March 20 2014 08:56 Djodref wrote:
I have read the whole thread again and I don't think that rayn could be mafia anymore.
I don't like how Oats and thrawn voted me for the lynch with little justification. I would expect thrawn to be more active to push my lynch over GT as well.
I don't mind Koshi voting me that much because I believe he is town and I know I didn't do much.
I'd be happy to get behind a GT lynch today for self preservation mainly.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if we have at least 3 mafia members in the pool of less active players in this game. Which I'm fully aware of belonging to. I'm not mafia though
I'll try to give better input tomorrow before the lynch and also my paintings if I get behind a proper computer.
I got to go to bed now though but I'll hang around a little more.


See you tomorrow guys!

On March 20 2014 09:07 Palmar wrote:

Thank you based town hero DP before you started posting I was unsure.

On March 20 2014 09:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am kinda back into thinking Hopeless is mafia and i have best reasoning 2014™ for it.
It's kinda sad it can't be used as a reasoning to lynch anyone really so i need to forge a case.

On March 20 2014 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:


this makes less sense than i thought...

you're reading koshi as town, koshi votes you, but you previously read him as town so his vote is ok

oats was looking townish until his vote, which was scummy
thrawn is more on the townie side but his vote is scummy

I don't understand why you are ignoring koshi's vote "because he looked town" while you are holding thrawn/oats votes against them even though you were also townreading them before the votes.

On March 20 2014 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:


are you talking about wishy washy as scum? i don't remember anything about djo's play other than looney lynching mafia

On March 20 2014 09:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
oh i replaced out of that one, i probably didn't read it.

well DP. prior to this you talked about meta being bad, so what's different here?

On March 20 2014 09:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's why i said i need to forge a case.

On March 20 2014 10:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why is everyone and their grandmother calling thrawn mafia?
Unless both of me and DarthPunk are mafia it's almost guaranteed the thrawn "wagon" is mafia influenced. So thrawn, me and DarthPunk know the truth which is out there. thrawn is town.

On March 20 2014 10:04 Hopeless1der wrote:

i'm an orange. true story.

On March 20 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:



So I liked the logic on Hopeless being mafia if one of Me, GT, Djo is mafia too. I fail to see what hopeless being town makes 2 of us mafia. I think all of our interactions with hopeless are indicative with 2 maf together and I see that logic even knowing I'm one in the group and town. I however don't see this leap that if he is town 2 of the 3 of us are maf care to explain it further rayn?

On March 20 2014 10:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So it's impossible they are both town?

On March 20 2014 10:17 Tehpoofter wrote:


Reading between the lines was bad phrasing it was more about him bringing up other cases outside of on rayn and coag going on then. He was not just looking at this one thing going on and saying omfg this guy is town in the arguement he was looking at your interactions during it and basing it off that. It felt more townie to me to be concerned with not just the one argument. I saw you ask this earlier but i find my phrasing insignificant at best and I don't really care if you think I'm scummy for not answering a question about someone I town read.

On March 20 2014 11:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam there is ~20 hours left in the day and noone thinks you are mafia.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!

On March 20 2014 10:17 Tehpoofter wrote:


Reading between the lines was bad phrasing it was more about him bringing up other cases outside of on rayn and coag going on then. He was not just looking at this one thing going on and saying omfg this guy is town in the arguement he was looking at your interactions during it and basing it off that. It felt more townie to me to be concerned with not just the one argument. I saw you ask this earlier but i find my phrasing insignificant at best and I don't really care if you think I'm scummy for not answering a question about someone I town read.

On March 20 2014 10:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DP Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours that is also why I have a town read on Koshi (early town read) That was basically all I was saying I phrased it poorly so I understand your confusion.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi Holyflare gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!

On March 20 2014 13:59 Vivax wrote:


Maybe you should ask him, or compare the timestamps. Figure out if he's scum and shit, I thought that's what were here for, not defending people for bad reasons. You chose to dismiss my arguments without even knowing for sure who he was talking about?

DP is here, you promised to tell us why he's scum. Proceed please.

On March 20 2014 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh dp voting giggletummy even after he provided reasoning that DP should agree with because DP is trying to use that logic to call me scum is super super duper weird

On March 20 2014 14:11 Holyflare wrote:
no because you are actually fucking scum and i'm going to prove it you can whine about it all game and all post game about how my reasoning is wrong but your flip will justify this shit

giggletummy - it doesn't matter WHEN he posted his reasoning, it is all stuff that you have been saying that I was doing all game. YOU AGREE WITH HIS FUCKING CASE AND VOTE HIM OVER TEHPOOFTER WHO YOU MADE A GIANT CASE ON STRAIGHT AWAY CALLING HIM 100% SCUM

On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.

On March 20 2014 14:49 Tehpoofter wrote:


Its the same thing you wrote before and I'm ignoring your tunneling because your wrong and you clearly are a player that tunnels. Get off me and look elsewhere if you're town which I actually think you are. I've addressed what you said before and did yet again which I can link.

On March 20 2014 14:52 Tehpoofter wrote:



@DP i address it again here just so you can see bolded for you. MAn this Tehpoofter guy is town is what you should be typing.

Your point about me changing between the case and the read on HF I meant it as a read on HF and even in my diagram I didn't put you as scummy because I didn't agree that you were from his case I pushed you more towards scum cause at the time I read you more scummy than him but not scummy.

We good? I will entertain your accusations for the next like 30 minutes so feel free to keep them coming but after that if you're town we need to actually kill mafia not fight.

On March 20 2014 14:58 Tehpoofter wrote:






There you go

On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!

On March 20 2014 15:18 Holyflare wrote:
Do people not read it as "i liked that hf made a case" not that he likes the case and thinks dp is scum?

On March 20 2014 15:15 Tehpoofter wrote:



Fair enough if thats your hangup consider it a misstep I see where you're getting that case and read are different. I meant it as a read at the time I did like the case when I made the original post I have since decided that his case was weak after a reread so I just stuck with the read. I only bring up the case thing because the fact he made a case good or bad was more the fact he made the case.