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Blazinghand
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Balla24 (PM, filter) is cohosting. Any questions can be directed to either of us. Make sure to send night actions to both of us too, during the night.
The coaches for town are Hapahauli, Promethelax, Geript and Toadesstern.
The scum coach is Alakaslam.
Newbie Mini Mafia LIII
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Introduction:
Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.
The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance.
Rules:
Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.
Posting:
Mod Font:
This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.
Question Font:
This is question font. Use it to ask the moderators questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.
Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.
Smurfs:
No smurfs in here. This is a newbie game!
Spam:
Spam is not tolerated, nor is any off-topic material. Do not discuss Proleague here. Do not talk about Starcraft II here. Play Mafia here. This also means you should condense your posts when possible. 15 one-liners in 30 minutes is unacceptable.
Encryption:
Don't do it.
Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing will result in a warning. After that, you will be modkilled. This is the one part of the site where it is okay to be double posting, even triple-posting. While I ask for everybody to post as concisely as possible, post again using the acronym (EBWOP: Edit by way of posting) if you want to clarify/correct something you just posted.
Inappropriate posts:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, GMarshal, or Mig before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally.
Reporting posts:
The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, GMarshal, or Mig before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.
Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM me or the co-hosts if you need to leave the game.
You have been warned.
Voting rules:
This game uses plurality lynch. The player with most votes at deadline will be lynched.
1. Voting is done in this thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Promethelax. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I or my co-hosts will update vote counts whenever we get the chance.
3. If you change your vote, please ##Unvote before posting another vote (can be done in the same post).
4. No conditional voting.
5. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
7. Ties are resolved like this: (link)
8. You may vote for a no-lynch.
Signups:
This game is open to players with 3 or fewer games on TL Mafia. Signups will remain open until the game is full. If you have played more but a long time ago, I might accept. Type /in if you want to play. Please be sure to check back to the thread regularly so that you are aware that the game has begun.
Game-specific rules:
Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM Flamewheel or post in the Ban List.
Replacements
This game uses replacements. Replacements will be made until Day 3. If a player is modkilled, they will be replaced by a player on the replacement list if possible. Type /replace if you want to be put on the replacement list. Replacements have to fulfill the same criteria as people who want to play (aka 3 games or fewer on TL Mafia).
Clues:
There are no clues.
PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game. No out-of-thread communication of any sort is allowed unless cleared by the hosts. Scum will be provided a QT to communicate in, as will Masons, Hydras or shadowing players.
Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day-cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is 00:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after.
Credits:
This post shamefully stolen from NMM LII (with slight modifications)
Thanks to pretty much every TL mafia player/host/mod/etc.
On February 20 2013 21:59 Acrofales wrote: Newbie-specific stuff 1.It's already in the rules, but remember, no editing. If you feel you must correct your post, please make a second post to clarify your statements. You may put EBWOP ("Edit by way of post," a handy acronym invented by semioldguy) at the beginning of your post to indicate that you are clearing up a point you made. If your EBWOP post is several posts after your original, please quote your original post in your EBWOP post for the sake of clarity. 2. Only sign up if you know you will have the time available to properly play the game. It is essential that players remain active in a newbie game, so only /in if you are able to play to your fullest. 3. If there is any sort of issue, you are unsure about some mechanic, or you are just wondering if your devilish scheme is even allowed, feel free to PM me, or ask in-thread with green text. Don't feel shy; these games are meant to be a place to learn and be open. 4. Behave as gentlemen (or ladies). Things get heated here, but personal attacks will not be acceptable, and will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, this is a game; have fun and happy scumhunting! 5. Please do not talk about any ongoing games either in-game or pre-game. This can affect other games and is unacceptable. Please do not refer to outside-of- thread activity of players in this thread. 6. If you receive coaching, don't tell town about it. 7. glhf!
Guides!
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Blazinghand
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Newbie Mini Mafia LIII: Roaring Abyss Mini Mafia![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ozU5SE4l.jpg)
Roles and Setup information
This is a semi-open setup. There are four possible setups, and which setup is chosen will be RNGed. The chosen setup is not revealed, but it should be deducible as the game goes on.
Passengers
Voyager (Vanilla Townie): You parted with currency to begin this voyage, but you have only begun to pay the price. You are a VT. You have no powers but may vote.
Rick "Ace" Lewis (Parity Cop): You were the best in the world, back in the day. You put away more criminals than you can count and made enough enemies for three lifetimes. Now all you need to do is get off-planet so you can retire in peace. Each night you target someone, and you're told if the alignment of your target is the same or different as your previous target. Your N1 check doesn't return anything, but is necessary for your N2 check to work. You can't check yourself. Your check is compared to your last successful check, so if you forgot to send in a check during N2 or got roleblocked, your N3 check is compared to who you checked N1.
Radim Vana, MD (Doctor): You worked harder than anyone else in your class in medical school, and that's saying a lot, all things considered. You had to; without great grades you were going to be crushed under a mountain of loans. When a UES agent approached you with a way to pay off all your loans, you couldn't refuse. You weren't a rich kid and your credit cards and government support could only go so far. You even have a residency waiting for you at the other end. The only catch-- it's not on Earth. Each night, you can save someone from the nightkill. You can't protect the same player twice in a row. You can't save yourself.
Town Win Condition - The town wins when there are no mafia left in the game or nothing can prevent that from happening.
Criminals
Thug (Mafia Goon): You're trying to take over this transport ship and ransom the passengers. You managed to sneak a blaster on board. You are scum. You have no special powers. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.
Punk (Mafia RB): You and your friend are trying to hijack the transport ship. He's in charge of managing the passengers while you hack the autopilot. If this works, you'll take home a handsome ransom. You are scum. Each night, you may RB a target. You can RB and send in the factional KP in the same night if you are the last scum. The target, even if he is a VT, is notified of being roleblocked. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.
Mafia Win condition - The mafia wins when they equal or outnumber the town. Each night mafia may select one person to shoot. The nk is factional.
Possible Setups
A) 1 Thug, 1 Punk, 1 Rick "Ace" Lewis, 1 Radim Vana, MD, 5 Voyagers
B) 2 Thugs, 1 Rick "Ace" Lewis, 6 Voyagers
C) 2 Thugs, 1 Random Vana, MD, 6 Voyagers
D) 1 Thug, 1 Punk, 7 Voyagers
Each setup is equally likely. Who gets what role will be RNGed.
Sample PMs:
Voyager Rick "Ace" Lewis Radim Vana, MD Thug, your QT: _____ Punk, your QT: _____
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Blazinghand
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On February 28 2014 07:42 CPHoya wrote:
/in
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HOYA?!?!? It says newbie!!!!!!
/in to get owned by hoya
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/coach
E: I have more posts than Hapa, I am clearly the better coach.
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On February 28 2014 15:05 mtamburini wrote:
Id like to play.
Sez "/in" bro makes to be official
If no Risen or Ace or someone epic shall appear, shalt /coach teh scummy
For to see the fish! Wherein I makes more sense in their qt I promise!
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tambo -- i'm gonna wreck you! Or we can be on the same team...but I'd really like to lynch you
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Seems like this is full of ppl outside my leagues of epic
##Summon: Ace
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For now, /obs
No time next week.
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@Valenius
Tolkien and I are totally gonna tunnel you in /obs watch out
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On March 01 2014 02:58 Amiko wrote:
@Valenius
Tolkien and I are totally gonna tunnel you in /obs watch out
Oh god.
Maybe this time you'll both notice my INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS town play, and not spend days trying to make it scummy? 
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/obs
I would like to play but I've got a lot of school work coming up.
Valenius was scum you should've lynched him Amiko.
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kitaman27
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I've got another battery of tests coming up.
/obs
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Blazinghand
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Blazinghand
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ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ PUT YOUR FAITH IN THE HYPE ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
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/hypeoff 
/out
this weeks looking like it's gonna be busy. i'll join back in if you're waiting on the last player for a long time, but won't be massively active
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I would like to point out that I own Alakaslam's ass when it comes to his scum game, so if you roll town you should totes use me as the most amazing resource ever. Also, HazingBland is the sexiest person ever and I want to have his children but this BlazingHand guy is really scummy for not saying so.
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/in
Never played online mafia, only in real life.
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/In
I've been watching it played for ages now and just thought I'd give it a try finally.
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/in
I recently played video mafia with a bunch of TL guys and I'd like to give this a try.
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I see a probably miscounted and there are not enough spots.
I'll try to catch the next one.
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/in It's full, but I'll be a replacement.
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Blazinghand
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Ok, signups are full! Mirks and Tanabear, I've put you down as replacements for now in the event someone who signed up doesn't actually want to play.
Barring anything weird happening, we start in about 14 hours at 00:00 GMT (+00:00).
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Anyway i can get added into the replacement list?
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Thanks blaze, I look forward to spectating this.
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Glad it filled up. Wasnt going to be able to give it the attention it deserves this week!
/obs
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Welcome to all the Daily Mafia noobs, especially that tamburini guy. I'm sure you're all bad at mafia but here's a really good play if you're at a 2:1 endgame. You just random on about one guy for a while, then call yourself an asshole and that you're a cop and have a green check on that guy just to see how the other guy responds. I promise you that other guy will totally vote for himself. Just a little bit of wisdom for you guys.
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Blazinghand
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GeckoXp has said he won't be available, so mirks will be subbing in for him. Also, I'm sending out confirmation PMs just to make sure everyone is on board with the start date and knows the game will start. type "/confirm" in the thread to confirm that you're still in. Once all the confirms are in we'll start shortly afterwards.
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Blazinghand
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Moose_ will be subbing in for Kosep!
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Blazinghand
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Okay, we're all /confirmed! I'm excited. We'll start in about 2.5 hours at 19:00 GMT (+00:00).
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Starts in 5 minutes! HYPE
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Blazinghand
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Day 1
Roaring Abyss Mini Mafia: Prologue
With a snap and a click, the final cryptolock popped open. They were in. The two Criminals quickly moved through the command cabin and disabled the surprised crew. No casualities - yet. They didn't even have to threaten the Passengers. Everyone knows the score. When criminals take over your ship, don't raise a fuss. They'll trade you for ransom, so you'll come out of it okay. Most people are fine with this state of affairs, even though if every passenger resisted these hijackings would stop.
The Criminals took this complacency into account when they took over the ship. Little did they know, though, that this ship was full of unusually courageous people, people unwilling to stand by as their lives are used as bargaining chips...
Welcome to Day 1. This Day ends in about 48 hours from this post at Friday, Mar 07 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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No one else is active... Let's be friends, mirks!
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I won't lynch you till final 3!
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Let's go on a little voyage, Rick.
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I won't lynch unless I think you're mafia!
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On March 06 2014 04:16 mirks wrote:
Where too Robert?
Oh...I was talking to Rick...not you
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My bad I thought I was rick
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Iamrobik is Robert.He and Myself (Rick), tamburini, cruisette, and moose all know eachother from video mafia.
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So Mirks going to space confirmed.
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Woah. You guys know each other.
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That we do its ok sqrt you can come with us too, Well maybe you can.
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WAIT MOOSE GOT IN THIS GAME!
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Yes i already told you about this.
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##Vote: Moose_ He is clearly a replacement for a person who was rolled mafia and didnt want to play anymore. Plus he is probably an impostor as we all know when you join an IRC channel and your name is already been used it automatically adds a underscore. So Moose_ has probably killed the REAL Moose. Super scummy imo. IGMEOY
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Its more like a fake moose came to this site first and decided to take the name before i could. My new intention is to find that moose and kill him, than take my name which i deserve more back.
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That makes sense... does it?
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Moose, please don't clutter this thread with the nonsense that you clutter games with. Tambo, please be civilized with regards to Moose. Mirks, I'm can't refer to you as Rick this game. DUCY?
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Robik please refrain from worthless posts that proceed to do nothing for town. Thanks.
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On March 06 2014 05:04 Moose_ wrote:
Robik please refrain from worthless posts that proceed to do nothing for town. Thanks.
are you mad that you got randed maf? is that why you're coming out so passive aggresively? I'd lynch the shit out of you and not think twice.
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That same logic applies to you Robik
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Not true A5. It doesn't apply to me cause it is my standard game to be rude and obnoxious and aggressive (maybe even passive aggressive, i.e. my relationship with many DMers), whereas that's not the case with Moose, who I expect to be even more douchey and more aggressive without the passivity.
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Currently you are using video logic mafia here on forums. Where i get to think way more before i type. So here expect a different play from me.
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Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them.
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On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them.
this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good.
honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me?
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This is a lot of our first games on forums. And as i do agree with you to an extend sqrt, i do not think that is how it will work. Even though we know a lot of peoples habits i still plan on playing this game trying to avoid those reads as this is a completely new game type for us.
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On March 06 2014 06:01 Moose_ wrote:
This is a lot of our first games on forums. And as i do agree with you to an extend sqrt, i do not think that is how it will work. Even though we know a lot of peoples habits i still plan on playing this game trying to avoid those reads as this is a completely new game type for us.
Stop being a lil' bitch and making excuses already. Just fucking tell everyone that you want to lynch Tambo...I'll back you up 100000%.
In fact, I'll start the charge
##vote tambo
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As it is a new game type for me also.
The interaction between Robik and Moose is, I think simply townies probing for information. Which is great.
I say we probe everyone, especially those who haven't posted since the game started. But, if the interaction between you two becomes a hostility, then all the mafia need to do is to you guys fight it out, ending in a couple of free kills.
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mirks, what's your take on this?
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Moose seems his usual self from what I can translate from video to text, and something is very off with robik. I'll have to verify with his past games if he normally plays this aggro.
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Are you saying I don't play aggro in video? Are you trying to lie to the noobie that we don't know, mirks? YOU KNOW what's "off" about my game.
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sqrt-1...i'm going to make this game really easy for you
Step 1) Call me your top town (cause I'm town and when I'm town I catch all the mafias)
Step 2) Just agree with everything I say
Step 3) ??????????????
Step 4) Profit (Win as town)
How's that sound?
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sqrt-1,
If you could piss 1 person in this thread off right now, who would it be?
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No, unless you are bussing or in a direct claim/counterclaim situation, you don't really jump at people like that.
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sqrt-1,
also, if you don't mind indulging me, how much mafia have you played, and in what environment have you played it in? Video? Forum? IRL? EM? Other?
Thanks boo.
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On March 06 2014 07:09 mirks wrote:
No, unless you are bussing or in a direct claim/counterclaim situation, you don't really jump at people like that.
You're just making stuff up. You're lucky Boone isn't in this game...or maybe unlucky that she's not in the game. IDK. I'll figure you out eventually dear mirks.
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WHere'd you disappear to sqrt-1?!?!/ I want us to have a civilized talk!!!
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Making shit up? Maybe I'm wrong but the only reference I really have is to take the things you say, and imagine you coming out with those comments early in day1 on a video mafia game. And the tone seems off.
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Well this got interesting fast. I'm going to ride or die with Tambo on this. I really only see two towns fighting honestly here. Though, I do request that you boys be civil on here since it's our first time together doing forum Mafia.
Robik - Why are we going on Tambo first?
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On March 06 2014 07:35 Cruisette wrote:
Well this got interesting fast. I'm going to ride or die with Tambo on this. I really only see two towns fighting honestly here. Though, I do request that you boys be civil on here since it's our first time together doing forum Mafia.
Robik - Why are we going on Tambo first?
Cause he came in. Voted Moose for OGI and left.
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Wait cruise did you read this whole post it was me and robik fighting.
Tambo hast even really posted anything besides about me on this thread really.
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On March 06 2014 07:50 Moose_ wrote:
Wait cruise did you read this whole post it was me and robik fighting.
Tambo hast even really posted anything besides about me on this thread really.
Oh balls. I seriously skipped a page then. Well, that's ridiculous. I take back everything I have previously stated and don't really find Tambo to be very town at all. Sure, Moose has some trolly nonsense happening, but when doesn't he. Moose is super town to me just based on this. I feel that we need to band together and find out who the criminals are.
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Well i actually really like that response not because you called me town, but i kind of agree with what you are saying.
Lets find some criminals = town in my eyes, and i totally want to hear more from tambo and everyone else who has yet to post.
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Is there a way to get email notifications to email when someone posts?
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I started to make a post from my car, but it wouldn't let me fix the voice-to-text malarky that my phone was converting. Moose, please explain what exactly you agree with in what Cruisette wrote? I'm not saying that I think she's scum...in fact, I think the opposite, but it has NOTHING to do with what she said and 100% to do with how she said it. Please elaborate
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Tambo, D1 just ended in the Foundations game thread and there were 1300 posts. You wanna reconsider your question?
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Blazinghand
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On March 06 2014 08:41 mtamburini wrote:
Is there a way to get email notifications to email when someone posts?
You can use the subscribe feature (at the bottom of the thread) to make a thread appear in your "subscribed threads" list. Then, you can access your subscribed threads (link) which will let you know how many people have posted since you last viewed the thread. teamliquid currently only provides email notifications for PMs, but you can check out your other profile options here (link).
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On March 06 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them. this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good. honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me?
When I first read IAmRobik and Moose interactions, I was ready to lynch both of them cause I thought there would one between them for sure just based on the fact of them attacking each other. However that view changed once sqrt posted that their opinion on the matter was it was two towns fighting. I'd like an explanation on it as maybe you see something I dont. I am more inclined to sheep Roberts read on the situation and it sounds a little too good.
On March 06 2014 06:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
As it is a new game type for me also.
The interaction between Robik and Moose is, I think simply townies probing for information. Which is great.
I say we probe everyone, especially those who haven't posted since the game started. But, if the interaction between you two becomes a hostility, then all the mafia need to do is to you guys fight it out, ending in a couple of free kills.
I kinda like your answer here, but I'm not ready to clear them both as town just yet.
On March 06 2014 06:42 mirks wrote:
Moose seems his usual self from what I can translate from video to text, and something is very off with robik. I'll have to verify with his past games if he normally plays this aggro.
I can agree Mirks that Moose is kinda acting like himself. But nothing has changed with IAmRobik play from Video to Text. He still be super AGRO and calling shit as it is. He is leaning more town for me then Moose just because I see more of a consistency in his play. For you not to see that seems a little fishy to me. I will say this about IAmRobik. He generally plays the same way as both allignements so I do not have a read on him, but it is leaning towards town.
Cruisette when I read that you were Ride or Die with me I was ecstatic. Then you let IAmRobik change your mind so quickly! Whyyy Feelings hurt </3
I have not been able to read you correctly in video mafia, but I want to say that you flipping your Ride or Die so quickly reads a little scummy to me.
Inb4 IAmRobik's 2 posts
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Did you even read the thread Tambo? It was Moose who changed her mind...not me.
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On March 06 2014 09:09 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them. this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good. honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me? When I first read IAmRobik and Moose interactions, I was ready to lynch both of them cause I thought there would one between them for sure just based on the fact of them attacking each other. However that view changed once sqrt posted that their opinion on the matter was it was two towns fighting. I'd like an explanation on it as maybe you see something I dont. I am more inclined to sheep Roberts read on the situation and it sounds a little too good. Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 06:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
As it is a new game type for me also.
The interaction between Robik and Moose is, I think simply townies probing for information. Which is great.
I say we probe everyone, especially those who haven't posted since the game started. But, if the interaction between you two becomes a hostility, then all the mafia need to do is to you guys fight it out, ending in a couple of free kills. I kinda like your answer here, but I'm not ready to clear them both as town just yet. Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 06:42 mirks wrote:
Moose seems his usual self from what I can translate from video to text, and something is very off with robik. I'll have to verify with his past games if he normally plays this aggro.
I can agree Mirks that Moose is kinda acting like himself. But nothing has changed with IAmRobik play from Video to Text. He still be super AGRO and calling shit as it is. He is leaning more town for me then Moose just because I see more of a consistency in his play. For you not to see that seems a little fishy to me. I will say this about IAmRobik. He generally plays the same way as both allignements so I do not have a read on him, but it is leaning towards town. Cruisette when I read that you were Ride or Die with me I was ecstatic. Then you let Moose change your mind so quickly! Whyyy Feelings hurt </3 I have not been able to read you correctly in video mafia, but I want to say that you flipping your Ride or Die so quickly reads a little scummy to me. Inb4 IAmRobik's 2 posts
EBWOP
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On March 06 2014 07:09 IAmRobik wrote:
sqrt-1,
also, if you don't mind indulging me, how much mafia have you played, and in what environment have you played it in? Video? Forum? IRL? EM? Other?
Thanks boo.
A fair amount of IRL.
On March 06 2014 09:09 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them. this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good. honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me? When I first read IAmRobik and Moose interactions, I was ready to lynch both of them cause I thought there would one between them for sure just based on the fact of them attacking each other. However that view changed once sqrt posted that their opinion on the matter was it was two towns fighting. I'd like an explanation on it as maybe you see something I dont. I am more inclined to sheep Roberts read on the situation and it sounds a little too good.
I'm just saying that it's a possibility that they're just 2 towns fighting.
Again, I think we need to hear from the people who haven't posted yet.
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Apologies I was typing a whole lot of information. I like all your reads IAmRobik they align with mine at the moment. I think I am considering Cruisette my most scummy with Moose just behind her. I don't think they are together at the moment but she was easily convinced to flip her read without much questioning.
Inb4 sqrt post
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On March 06 2014 08:41 IAmRobik wrote:
I started to make a post from my car, but it wouldn't let me fix the voice-to-text malarky that my phone was converting. Moose, please explain what exactly you agree with in what Cruisette wrote? I'm not saying that I think she's scum...in fact, I think the opposite, but it has NOTHING to do with what she said and 100% to do with how she said it. Please elaborate
So rob when she wrote out her coming she geinuenly sounded concerned that she didn't read exactly what was being typed after i corrected her. That came out really town to me, it wasn't really the content i just really like her last comment.
On March 06 2014 09:42 mtamburini wrote:
Apologies I was typing a whole lot of information. I like all your reads IAmRobik they align with mine at the moment. I think I am considering Cruisette my most scummy with Moose just behind her. I don't think they are together at the moment but she was easily convinced to flip her read without much questioning.
Inb4 sqrt post
Not sure if you are aware but rob is calling cruise town so how exactly do your reads align?
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I have to start reading things a lot more carefully my add kicks in when theres a lot to read and mis over some stuff. I will pay attention more in detail now.
Having pointed that out Moose, I still like IAmRobik for the way he is been acting this game, I guess we are not gonna agree on Cruisette's allignemnt at this moment in time. I really liked what she had to say in her first post but then her second post made me flip my read her. It felt almost like you she was looking to get on someones good side (me) then when you called her out on there is no reason why she should like me right now (which is true I had posted only one thing), she did a 180. I can see her doing this to not look scummy and/or try to get on people's good side.
She could also be a confused town looking for direction, but im more inclined to think she is scum looking to side with a townie or not be read as scum when called out for it.
So for those reasons, I think Moose you might be town here and my circle is you and IAmRobik.
##Unvote: Moose_
I agree with sqrt that people who have not posted anything yet should begin to post or be replaced so we can get reads on them.
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Blazinghand
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Vote Count
mtamburini (1) - IAmRobik
Not Voting (8) - CPHoya, sqrtofneg1, Thorgear, Moose_, mirks, Pretzelshop, mtamburini, Cruisette
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Tambo...to vote / unvote you're going to want to highlight it and press the big B to bold it or type open bracket, [, then b, then closed bracket, ], at the beginning and then the same thing except a / between the [ and b at the end.
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CPHoya, Thorgear, and Pretzelshop haven't posted.
##Vote Pretzelshop
Because you haven't said anything, and because I don't like pretzels.
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On March 06 2014 10:28 mtamburini wrote:
I have to start reading things a lot more carefully my add kicks in when theres a lot to read and mis over some stuff. I will pay attention more in detail now.
Having pointed that out Moose, I still like IAmRobik for the way he is been acting this game, I guess we are not gonna agree on Cruisette's allignemnt at this moment in time. I really liked what she had to say in her first post but then her second post made me flip my read her. It felt almost like you she was looking to get on someones good side (me) then when you called her out on there is no reason why she should like me right now (which is true I had posted only one thing), she did a 180. I can see her doing this to not look scummy and/or try to get on people's good side.
She could also be a confused town looking for direction, but im more inclined to think she is scum looking to side with a townie or not be read as scum when called out for it.
So for those reasons, I think Moose you might be town here and my circle is you and IAmRobik.
##Unvote: Moose_
I agree with sqrt that people who have not posted anything yet should begin to post or be replaced so we can get reads on them.
Did you miss the fact that I missed an entire page of entries? Because that happened as I made my first post. After reviewing everything previously stated, I wasn't feeling very confident in my Ride or Die claim. With more information I had to take back my claim and do that 180 which appears very scummy to you. This is not me trying to get on someones good side. Moose pointed out a fact to me, which really did change my mind.
On March 06 2014 09:42 mtamburini wrote:
I think I am considering Cruisette my most scummy with Moose just behind her.
I am confused town trying to find the way through this game safely. Though what you said here is very fishy considering you now have Moose in your town circle. You must not have considered anything Sqrt has said.
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Cruisette...why did you like Moose after that interaction?
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His play so far has been rather calm for typical Moose play, and he's been super helpful. Which he never is when he's mafia. That's why I like him.
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So currently i find this extremely hard to continue playing till we begin to get more people involved in this game. Till then i am okay lynching anyone who has yet to post.
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On March 06 2014 12:21 Cruisette wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 09:42 mtamburini wrote:
I think I am considering Cruisette my most scummy with Moose just behind her.
I am confused town trying to find the way through this game safely. Though what you said here is very fishy considering you now have Moose in your town circle. You must not have considered anything Sqrt has said.
So my entire quote was the following.
On March 06 2014 09:42 mtamburini wrote:
Apologies I was typing a whole lot of information. I like all your reads IAmRobik they align with mine at the moment. I think I am considering Cruisette my most scummy with Moose just behind her. I don't think they are together at the moment but she was easily convinced to flip her read without much questioning.
I dont think you would've missed the last thing I said, you guys are probably not aligned so at one point I will have to choose between the both of you if it comes down to it. The way you guys interacted I dont think you guys could be together at the moment.
Also to respond to sqrts post.
On March 06 2014 10:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
CPHoya, Thorgear, and Pretzelshop haven't posted.
##Vote Pretzelshop
Because you haven't said anything, and because I don't like pretzels.
Should we lynch Pretzelshop if they do not continue to post today?
inb4 Moose post
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being day 1 i dont have much to go off, but these are my reads at this point
i think sqrt1 is probably town because of the questions he has been asking.
as for the robik and moose interaction, i get a null read.
i dont like the fact that cruisette was willing to ride or die with someone on day 1.
also could the people that know each other outside of the game, just refer to people as there username, it just makes easier for the people that dont know each other.
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since i seem to be the only one posting around this time,i 'll say this. i do want the people who haven't posted yet to say something, but i wouldnt suggest we vote for them.. as i understand it, if they dont post at all during the day, they will get replaced or mod killed. thats why i think we should look at the people that are actually going to reply, as we can get information from that.
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Everyone needs to be posting more. I cant' find scum if you guys are all lurking in the background.
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So my biggest issue with, "just waiting on people to reply" and never worrying about them is currently there is 2 people who have yet to post, if we probe each other all day here and start scum hunting within us eventually one will turn scum. What if the 2 people who have yet to post are the scum so we wasted all this time reading each other to get false reads. So although i am so for only reading the people posting unless they get replaced soon i am okay lynching them.
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Moose...They will be replaced. Stop harping on that and look into what Thorgear wrote with his first post.
Do you think that he provided substantial analysis of what happened so far? Do you think it's more scummy or towny of him to come into the thread and start discussing his reads right away without first saying hi or something trolly as most of us have done?
Also, what do you make of that fact that he had to substantiate that fact that he doesn't have many reads before actually giving them?
Anyone can feel free to answer this question, but I definitely want your take on it Moose, since you're here and all.
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My mistake i was under the impression that i made a first post. So i actually didn't like his post at all. I felt like he came in to literally add nothing to the game besides saying that he liked sqrt.
Currently i am going to be keeping my eye on him and i really want to look more into sqrt. and want to to hear his reaction to this.
The only positive thing i can say about the post is that he is paying attention as he realized some of us were using different names for each other.
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My biggest problem right now is people wanting to lynch the players who have not talked yet, I think that is pretty scummy because they can be replaced and/or mod killed so if they are scum not participating thats great they will be modkilled and we will win that much easier. I feel like the people who are willing to lynch them are just picking on someone who cannot defend themselves making it seem like its a safe lynch.
With regards to Thorgear post it I feel like after 3 pages of posts they would have a lot more to give to us.
My question for Thorgear, you think sqrt is town for the questions hes asking. What do you think of his reads?
Inb4 robert post
inb4 Moose post
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On March 07 2014 01:55 mtamburini wrote:
My question for Thorgear, you think sqrt is town for the questions hes asking. What do you think of his reads?
he isnt confirmed town to me,, he is leaning more towards town for me.. as for his reads, as i stated in my first post i get a null read from the moose and robik interaction... to me the argument is about how there play is in video mafia compared to this, as never having played with them, i get nothing out of that.
other than that i dont think he has given any reads
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Please point out which exact "questions he's been asking" made you think he was town. I just went through his filter and didnt' see QUESTION that made me say... "wow, this question is definitely coming from someone with a town mindset!"
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On March 06 2014 06:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I say we probe everyone, especially those who haven't posted since the game started. But, if the interaction between you two becomes a hostility, then all the mafia need to do is to you guys fight it out, ending in a couple of free kills.
On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them.
to me these are towny questions. you may not agree with that, butt hats how i see it
perhaps questions was a poor choice of words, maybe i should have said topics or whatever
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OK. Thorgear 100% top town forever. He doesn't fully understand the English language, but over here at TL, we don't discriminate against people for not finishing 4th grade!
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Again I see two towns fighting in Rob and Moose.
On March 06 2014 14:37 mtamburini wrote:
I dont think you would've missed the last thing I said, you guys are probably not aligned so at one point I will have to choose between the both of you if it comes down to it. The way you guys interacted I dont think you guys could be together at the moment.
There would be no chance at this point that Moose and I could align in my book unless something else changed dramatically. I know I have very flippy reads, but as things progress they're going to change and people will start rubbing me the wrong way. I honestly hate Day 1 overall. Right now I'm not going to touch Robik or Moose with a 10' pole. Tam, I'm back with you. Thorgear is asking some good questions, but didn't dig Robiks 'read'. Didn't feel right.
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##Vote: Cruisette
Cruisette you are gonna have to enlighten me as to why your read on moose flipped back to mafia.
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I also have a strong town read on thorgear for reasons that I don't think are very town to say.
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mirks,
there were no n0 actions
thorgear,
i didn't mean to insult you. it was all in jest. please accept my apology.
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Right now
I think there are
Certain people who I wouldn't lynch
K?
Town: Thorgear & Moose
Maf: MTambo & Mirks
These are just initial reads though
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On March 07 2014 06:31 mirks wrote:
##Vote: Cruisette
Cruisette you are gonna have to enlighten me as to why your read on moose flipped back to mafia.
It's the way the Moose works. He's very gung-ho on lynching the AFK. He's fighting with town and causing a ruckus. Would you want to side with him or a more sane thoughtful town, Mirks?
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On March 07 2014 06:24 Cruisette wrote:Again I see two towns fighting in Rob and Moose. Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 14:37 mtamburini wrote:
I dont think you would've missed the last thing I said, you guys are probably not aligned so at one point I will have to choose between the both of you if it comes down to it. The way you guys interacted I dont think you guys could be together at the moment. There would be no chance at this point that Moose and I could align in my book unless something else changed dramatically. I know I have very flippy reads, but as things progress they're going to change and people will start rubbing me the wrong way. I honestly hate Day 1 overall. Right now I'm not going to touch Robik or Moose with a 10' pole. Tam, I'm back with you. Thorgear is asking some good questions, but didn't dig Robiks 'read'. Didn't feel right.
I'm so confused by what you're saying here.
You start off by saying that moose and I are two towns fightinga nd then you quote something and then say that you and moose aren't aligned....if you think moose and i are town, and you're not aligned with us, doesn't that automatically make you mafia?
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On March 07 2014 06:42 IAmRobik wrote:
mirks,
there were no n0 actions
Thats not what I was implying, I feel if I voice the reason it is too easily mimiced and I'm not trying to let scum know why i townread people.
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On March 07 2014 07:09 mirks wrote:Thats not what I was implying, I feel if I voice the reason it is too easily mimiced and I'm not trying to let scum know why i townread people.
This is just awful. If I don't know the reason that you find someone town, then I can't judge you! If you give bad reasoning or good reasoning, maybe I can draw a conclusion on whether you are town or maf. I don't like this. I don't like this not 1 bit!!
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On March 07 2014 07:07 Cruisette wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 06:31 mirks wrote:
##Vote: Cruisette
Cruisette you are gonna have to enlighten me as to why your read on moose flipped back to mafia.
It's the way the Moose works. He's very gung-ho on lynching the AFK. He's fighting with town and causing a ruckus. Would you want to side with him or a more sane thoughtful town, Mirks?
You already sided with him, for the first half of your reason why he is now mafia.
I don't get how his fight with robert now makes him scum in your eyes when you used that fight to call him your top town?
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Vote Count
mtamburini (1) - IAmRobik
Pretzelshop (1) - sqrtofneg1
Cruisette (1) - mirks
Not Voting (6) - CPHoya, Thorgear, Moose_, Pretzelshop, mtamburini, Cruisette
Currently mtamburini is set to be lynched!
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Friendly reminder from our voting rules:
6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
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On March 07 2014 01:43 Moose_ wrote:
My mistake i was under the impression that i made a first post. So i actually didn't like his post at all. I felt like he came in to literally add nothing to the game besides saying that he liked sqrt.
Currently i am going to be keeping my eye on him and i really want to look more into sqrt. and want to to hear his reaction to this.
The only positive thing i can say about the post is that he is paying attention as he realized some of us were using different names for each other.
The fact that he's paying attention stands out. Make up your mind on what that implies.
Also:
On March 06 2014 16:24 Thorgear wrote:
since i seem to be the only one posting around this time,i 'll say this. i do want the people who haven't posted yet to say something, but i wouldnt suggest we vote for them.. as i understand it, if they dont post at all during the day, they will get replaced or mod killed. thats why i think we should look at the people that are actually going to reply, as we can get information from that.
Thor wants us to attack someone who's active. What do you think that means?
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What happens if there's a tie in the vote count?
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On March 07 2014 07:09 mirks wrote:Thats not what I was implying, I feel if I voice the reason it is too easily mimiced and I'm not trying to let scum know why i townread people.
This is suspicious to me too.
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On March 07 2014 08:49 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
What happens if there's a tie in the vote count?
The most recent majority is lynched. Whoever reaches the highest number most recently in other words.
If A has 3 votes, B has 2 votes, and THEN someone votes for B, A is still set to be lynched. Once B gains 4 votes he will be set to be lynched and then if someone unvotes B he will still be lynched (even though there is a tie between A & B)
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
I have added a clarification to the voting section of the OP.
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Okay, let's take a look at Cruisette.
First post, she makes a post that makes no sense. This was due to an error where she skipped a page, and she said so herself.
Then she says she thinks moose is a townie.
Then she says she thinks moose is a mafia.
Very wishy washy, but if there's someone who I would believe has flippy reads, it'd be the person who skipped a page.
I read soft town.
What about Tamburni?
On March 06 2014 09:09 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them. this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good. honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me? When I first read IAmRobik and Moose interactions, I was ready to lynch both of them cause I thought there would one between them for sure just based on the fact of them attacking each other. However that view changed once sqrt posted that their opinion on the matter was it was two towns fighting. I'd like an explanation on it as maybe you see something I dont. I am more inclined to sheep Roberts read on the situation and it sounds a little too good.
He was ready to lynch both Robik and Moose, but reconsiders after I say something. I'm willing to bet that if I didn't say that, he'd be perfectly fine to lynch both of them.
On March 07 2014 01:55 mtamburini wrote:
My biggest problem right now is people wanting to lynch the players who have not talked yet, I think that is pretty scummy because they can be replaced and/or mod killed so if they are scum not participating thats great they will be modkilled and we will win that much easier. I feel like the people who are willing to lynch them are just picking on someone who cannot defend themselves making it seem like its a safe lynch.
With regards to Thorgear post it I feel like after 3 pages of posts they would have a lot more to give to us.
My question for Thorgear, you think sqrt is town for the questions hes asking. What do you think of his reads?
Inb4 robert post
inb4 Moose post
Doesn't want to lynch the players who haven't talked yet because they could be modkilled/replaced. Says he feels like the people who want to lynch them are just picking on people who can't defend themselves, which is possible. But I have a feeling he doesn't want them to be lynched because one of the people who are inactive are his affiliation.
I read soft mafia.
Moose simply seems like town. One thing that catches my eye is that he said he's gonna play a bit differently than in video mafia. Which shows that he thought how video mafia transfers to forum mafia. This could mean he's mafia, but pretty much everything else says otherwise.
I read soft town.
Robik seems like an experienced player. Mirks say that something's fishy about him, but if he's the experienced player he is, I wouldn't expect him to make a mistake like that.
I read soft town.
Mirks seems active, but most of his posts are short, and some of them seem like he's trying to make others lynch someone. For example:
On March 07 2014 07:22 mirks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 07:07 Cruisette wrote:On March 07 2014 06:31 mirks wrote:
##Vote: Cruisette
Cruisette you are gonna have to enlighten me as to why your read on moose flipped back to mafia.
It's the way the Moose works. He's very gung-ho on lynching the AFK. He's fighting with town and causing a ruckus. Would you want to side with him or a more sane thoughtful town, Mirks? You already sided with him, for the first half of your reason why he is now mafia. I don't get how his fight with robert now makes him scum in your eyes when you used that fight to call him your top town?
He's subtly trying to make us think that cruisette is mafia.
I read mafia.
##Unvote
##Vote mirks
Sorry mirks. I wanted to be friends.
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I like this sqrt-1 guy. if there's a person scummier than mtambo in this game, it's definitely Mirks
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Vote Count
mtamburini (1) - IAmRobik
Pretzelshop (0) - sqrtofneg1
Cruisette (1) - mirks
mirks (1) - sqrtofneg1
Not Voting (6) - CPHoya, Thorgear, Moose_, Pretzelshop, mtamburini, Cruisette
Currently mtamburini is set to be lynched!
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On March 07 2014 09:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:. Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 01:55 mtamburini wrote:
My biggest problem right now is people wanting to lynch the players who have not talked yet, I think that is pretty scummy because they can be replaced and/or mod killed so if they are scum not participating thats great they will be modkilled and we will win that much easier. I feel like the people who are willing to lynch them are just picking on someone who cannot defend themselves making it seem like its a safe lynch.
With regards to Thorgear post it I feel like after 3 pages of posts they would have a lot more to give to us.
My question for Thorgear, you think sqrt is town for the questions hes asking. What do you think of his reads?
Inb4 robert post
inb4 Moose post
Doesn't want to lynch the players who haven't talked yet because they could be modkilled/replaced. Says he feels like the people who want to lynch them are just picking on people who can't defend themselves, which is possible. But I have a feeling he doesn't want them to be lynched because one of the people who are inactive are his affiliation. I read soft mafia.
Im sorry but I think its pro town to lynch someone who is actually participating in the game because you can actually get reads on them and make somewhat of an educated decision on what they have said and done. Lynching someone who has not said anything who could easily be replaced by someone who wants to participate and we can get a read on.
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what are peoples thought on not lynching today?
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after going over everyones reads, pretty much everyone has moose as town. i would like to hear what his reads are.
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On March 07 2014 14:25 Thorgear wrote:
what are peoples thought on not lynching today?
With 9 people it is generally a good idea to lynch someone. When we have a odd number of people living, we are in a good position. We have mislynches that can be used to kill mafia. If we do not kill mafia and we hit a town, we still gain a lot of information. We can look at everything that they posted and treat them as honest reads meaning that they were not fabricating any of their reads.
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On March 07 2014 09:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:What about Tamburni? Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 09:09 mtamburini wrote:On March 06 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them. this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good. honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me? When I first read IAmRobik and Moose interactions, I was ready to lynch both of them cause I thought there would one between them for sure just based on the fact of them attacking each other. However that view changed once sqrt posted that their opinion on the matter was it was two towns fighting. I'd like an explanation on it as maybe you see something I dont. I am more inclined to sheep Roberts read on the situation and it sounds a little too good. He was ready to lynch both Robik and Moose, but reconsiders after I say something. I'm willing to bet that if I didn't say that, he'd be perfectly fine to lynch both of them. Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 01:55 mtamburini wrote:
My biggest problem right now is people wanting to lynch the players who have not talked yet, I think that is pretty scummy because they can be replaced and/or mod killed so if they are scum not participating thats great they will be modkilled and we will win that much easier. I feel like the people who are willing to lynch them are just picking on someone who cannot defend themselves making it seem like its a safe lynch.
With regards to Thorgear post it I feel like after 3 pages of posts they would have a lot more to give to us.
My question for Thorgear, you think sqrt is town for the questions hes asking. What do you think of his reads?
Inb4 robert post
inb4 Moose post
Doesn't want to lynch the players who haven't talked yet because they could be modkilled/replaced. Says he feels like the people who want to lynch them are just picking on people who can't defend themselves, which is possible. But I have a feeling he doesn't want them to be lynched because one of the people who are inactive are his affiliation. I read soft mafia. Mirks seems active, but most of his posts are short, and some of them seem like he's trying to make others lynch someone. For example: Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 07:22 mirks wrote:On March 07 2014 07:07 Cruisette wrote:On March 07 2014 06:31 mirks wrote:
##Vote: Cruisette
Cruisette you are gonna have to enlighten me as to why your read on moose flipped back to mafia.
It's the way the Moose works. He's very gung-ho on lynching the AFK. He's fighting with town and causing a ruckus. Would you want to side with him or a more sane thoughtful town, Mirks? You already sided with him, for the first half of your reason why he is now mafia. I don't get how his fight with robert now makes him scum in your eyes when you used that fight to call him your top town? He's subtly trying to make us think that cruisette is mafia. I read mafia. ##Unvote##Vote mirksSorry mirks. I wanted to be friends.
my problem with your logic here sqrt is. you think mirks is mafia. but you read tamburini as soft mafia and go on to state that you think one of his affliation, is one of the AFK/inactive people. which makes no sense since you think mirks is mafia
i dont understand how you come to that conclusion.
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I don't understand how sqrt comes to the conclusion that because I vote someone and give a reason for it that I am subtly trying to make town think shes mafia. Thats pretty overt imo, its also the same thing that sqrt is doing to me so I find it very strange that he would bring it up as logic against ME.
I don't really know what to draw from the interaction though. Maybe I'm wrong on cruisette and he KNOWS that?
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On March 07 2014 17:26 mirks wrote:
I don't understand how sqrt comes to the conclusion that because I vote someone and give a reason for it that I am subtly trying to make town think shes mafia. Thats pretty overt imo, its also the same thing that sqrt is doing to me so I find it very strange that he would bring it up as logic against ME.
I don't really know what to draw from the interaction though. Maybe I'm wrong on cruisette and he KNOWS that?
You are wrong on me Mirks. Maybe he does know that and he's trying to potentially clear someone. Or, he's potentially trying to confuse town and change the view to you. Sqrt is pretty much doing what he claims you're doing currently, Mirks.
I feel that I'm going to go with the general town consensus that Mirks is Mafia.
##Vote Mirks
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cruisette, i dont follow what you are trying to say... are you saying he is trying to clear you cause he knows you are town?
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On March 07 2014 18:34 Thorgear wrote:
cruisette, i dont follow what you are trying to say... are you saying he is trying to clear you cause he knows you are town?
Yes, that is what I was trying to say.
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there is no way that he can know you are town for sure, cause the game started on day phase so there is no cop checks, if you are implying that he has outside information.. to me that makes you and him as mafia together.. as there is no other way he could know your alignment.
which makes sense to me cause in his reads it seems like he is trying to deflect of you and on to mirks. another thing is he has more valid reasons to suspect tamburini for being mafia. but he still votes mirks.
in your first post you say you are going to ride or die with tambo, if you are town i dont understand why you would be willing to ride or die with anyone that early in the game... at the end of your second post you say "we need to band together and find out who the criminals are"...then at the end of your third post is "im confused town trying to find my way through this game safely"
which again if you are town i dont understand why you you would say these things..
to me it just seems like all you are really worried about is surviving and not actually finding scum.
##Vote Cruisette
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On March 07 2014 09:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Moose simply seems like town. One thing that catches my eye is that he said he's gonna play a bit differently than in video mafia. Which shows that he thought how video mafia transfers to forum mafia. This could mean he's mafia, but pretty much everything else says otherwise.
And i will and have been in, the reason for this comment is because in my opinion my play in video mafia would not transfer well and would be taken as scummy most of the time. For that reason i want to play a different style here on the forums.}
On March 07 2014 14:25 Thorgear wrote:
what are peoples thought on not lynching today?
Personally i think its in our best interest to lynch we are currently at 7/2 with a misslynch we got to 5/2 and from that point we are still looking good so i think we are doing good to lynch here.
On March 07 2014 14:38 Thorgear wrote:
after going over everyone's reads, pretty much everyone has moose as town. i would like to hear what his reads are.
My biggest reads right now are that i really like sqrt and Thor you have really grown on me today. MY biggest issue with sqrt is he came out and gave a bunch of scum reads that seemed off from his own circles not sure how he can call all of tambo, mirksm cruise and some who has yet to post maf. I am sure he is just trying to make circles but i would like more clarification with this.
So off to my scums Mirks managed to leap in front of anyone in this race, although because of how everyone is reading him as scum i am currently thinking that if he is scum he is possibly with someone who has yet to post.
IThe next one is cruisette and she has currently been all over the place, i do not wish to lynch her today but i believe she needs to make some big plays tomorrow or else she will be on the block for me.
Tambo is also leaning scummy to me but like mirks i only see him being mafia with the one of the people who have yet to post.
^
All that was before the latest cruisette post
I feel that I'm going to go with the general town consensus that Mirks is Mafia.
So this post is possibly the scummiest thing i have read since we started this game. To go on someone because sure you have a scum read on them but to say that you are on board because all of town is blows my mind. This post here sent you over the top and i now want to lynch you today.
##Vote Cruisette
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Why the hell are there any votes of me at all. Sqrt came out with a bullshit reason and then cruisette jumps with him and they both defend eachother for no good reason. That is the scummiest thing I've seen this thread. Oh wait, he also laid a case against tambourini and then voted me for essentially voting cruisette, maybe thats the scummiest. He's mafia with one of them and town need to get their heads out the sand.
#Unvote
#Vote: sqrtofneg1
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Vote Count
mtamburini (1) - IAmRobik
Pretzelshop (0) - sqrtofneg1
Cruisette (2) - mirks, Thorgear, Moose_
mirks (2) - sqrtofneg1, Cruisette
sqrtofneg1 (1) - mirks
Not Voting (3) - CPHoya, Pretzelshop, mtamburini
Currently Cruisette is set to be lynched!
Day ends at Friday, Mar 07 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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To be fair, Cruisette does read a bit scummy, but like, I don't see her making the posts she did as mafia. She's smarter than that. Although I'm not sure how her game translates from spoken word to typed word.
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Sup bros. I though we had until tonight and apparently we don't, so I'll be catching up immediately. Don't ever vote sqrtofneg1 though, I'm about halfway through and that's obvious.
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Dude...Hoya...it's like 140 posts max. There's no way it's taking you this long to read them and reply. You're used to reading like 1000+ posts per day.
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First interesting thing I noticed was Robik going HAM about not cluttering a brand new thread. I don't know Moose but I'd encourage him to post as much as he wants, not shut him down before he ever talks:
On March 06 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Moose, please don't clutter this thread with the nonsense that you clutter games with. Tambo, please be civilized with regards to Moose. Mirks, I'm can't refer to you as Rick this game. DUCY?
QUOTE]On March 06 2014 05:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:04 Moose_ wrote:
Robik please refrain from worthless posts that proceed to do nothing for town. Thanks.
are you mad that you got randed maf? is that why you're coming out so passive aggresively? I'd lynch the shit out of you and not think twice.[/QUOTE]
Also, bolded was obviously not true, The problem is Robik going aggro doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it hard to interact with him because he's going to have polarizing interactions with everyone. The second problem is going aggro doesn't make him town, because he'll be able to easily point out that he had a polarizing interaction with everyone. The third problem is mirks saying that something is very off with Robik. mirks, I want details about what is off with Robik.
Moving on, this is why we never vote sqrt:
On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them.
I know that encouraging a clean slate approach is easy to say, but I don't care. I love the post and what makes it especially town is the tinfoiling in bold. No one makes that up, it just either occurs to you or it doesn't.
Cruisette is the best vote today, largely because of this horrendous entrance:
On March 06 2014 07:35 Cruisette wrote:
Well this got interesting fast. I'm going to ride or die with Tambo on this. I really only see two towns fighting honestly here. Though, I do request that you boys be civil on here since it's our first time together doing forum Mafia.
Robik - Why are we going on Tambo first?
There is literally nothing Cruisette could've been referring to when she said "ride or die with Tambo on this." This is just a fake read from Cruisette. Moose had a good response that makes me think he's probably town:
On March 06 2014 07:50 Moose_ wrote:
Wait cruise did you read this whole post it was me and robik fighting.
Tambo hast even really posted anything besides about me on this thread really.
So true. Tambo pushed her for this and cleared Moose as well, so I think we get another town member in Tambo because the three of us are thinking the same things.
My other strong read is Thorgear showed up with believable reads that I'm feeling.
So it's like this:
Cruisette, mirks, pretzel is likely to contain all mafia or I'm super wrong about Cruisette. I don't think I'm wrong about Cruisette.
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I'm so good at the internet. Pretend I fixed the broken QUOTE tag.
Robik, I'm working at the same time obviously.
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#Vote: Cruisette
I would've fixed that earlier but I got a FLOOD CONTROL ban the first time I tried.
Robik, I also want to hear about your read on sqrt because I hate it.
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Vote Count
mtamburini (1) - IAmRobik
Pretzelshop (0) - sqrtofneg1
Cruisette (3) - mirks, Thorgear, Moose_, CPHoya
mirks (2) - sqrtofneg1, Cruisette
sqrtofneg1 (1) - mirks
Not Voting (2) - Pretzelshop, mtamburini
Currently Cruisette is set to be lynched!
Day ends at Friday, Mar 07 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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On March 08 2014 03:20 CPHoya wrote:
#Vote: Cruisette
I would've fixed that earlier but I got a FLOOD CONTROL ban the first time I tried.
Robik, I also want to hear about your read on sqrt because I hate it.
What? I was the first person to clear sqrt-1...didn't you just sheep exactly what I pointed out LOLOLOL
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Oh...I guess I didn't point it out...I just thought it and then later I said that I like him.
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lol I didn't even mean you, I meant mirks ("Rick")
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Im very conflicted in my vote today.
My town totem pole goes as so.
CPHoya has made one post but said a lot of things and made good analysis of what has been going on.
IAmRobik
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mirks I've reread sqrt and I do not get your vote at all
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Reminder: Voting is MANDATORY
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. . . and I am not used to games where you don't get snap responses at EOD
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On March 08 2014 03:42 mtamburini wrote:
Im very conflicted in my vote today.
My town totem pole goes as so.
CPHoya has made one post but said a lot of things and made good analysis of what has been going on.
IAmRobik
Some how it posted half of what i wanted to say.
Im very conflicted in my vote today.
My town totem pole goes as so.
CPHoya has made one post but said a lot of things and made good analysis of what has been going on.
IAmRobik I like the way he has been pressuring everyone trying to get reads of them. I dont necessarily agree with his reads but I like the way he is going about getting them.
Sqrt Although I have not seen many reads come from them, but CPHoya pointed out the way they have been talking seems extremely towny so I am willing to trust him on that.
Mirks Hes been acting kinda strange but like me he is new to forum mafia, might be going to get information in the wrong way.
Thor His first post seemed very vague and basic post considering how many things had happened since then was expecting more from them considering everything that was going.
Moose My moose read is kinda strange I didnt like the interaction between him and Cruisette so that is why he is more at the bottom of my pole
Cruisette Has been very wishy washy this game flipping on her reads. I posted before she is just trying to get on everyones good side and not making any enemies.
##Vote: Cruisette
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Final Vote Count
mtamburini (1) - IAmRobik
Pretzelshop (0) - sqrtofneg1
Cruisette (4) - mirks, Thorgear, Moose_, CPHoya, mtamburini
mirks (2) - sqrtofneg1, Cruisette
sqrtofneg1 (1) - mirks
Not Voting (1) - Pretzelshop
Cruisette has been lynched!
Night post incoming, silence till then please. You may speak after the flip.
(Edited at vote-end cause nobody posted after this ^_^)
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
STAND BY FOR NIGHT POST. NO POSTING.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Night 1
Now controlled by the Criminals, the Puddle Jumper streaks silently through space. Gracefully its distortion engines fold the frabic of spacetime around it, forcing it faster and faster. Of course, "faster" isn't a meaningful term when you're warping space. Speed measured in meters per second isn't meaningful if neither meters nor seconds correspond to anything in reality. The theory behind the distortion drive is beyond the scope of this story, so we will talk about the practice.
The distortion drive lets you travel between stars. The first light year takes a week. The next 5 light years take about a day. The next 5 light years take just under half an hour. Anything beyond about 10 light years always takes about the same amount of subjective time: 8 days. The amount of energy drawn by the distortion drive for a jump is always the same, and the jump itself always drops the ship at a sizeable fraction of c near its destination. Fine-tuning the destination and the velocity is possible, but difficult.
What matters for our story is that our heroes, the Passengers, are trapped on this ship for a while at least. Their first decision (after voting that they would resist) is to rush the cryptolock and try to break into the main area of the ship.
It does not go as planned.
Cruisette the Voyager has been lynched!
Welcome to Night 1. This Night ends in about 24 hours from this post at Friday, Mar 14 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
You can speak at night. If you have night actions, get them in to me before the deadline.
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On March 08 2014 03:59 IAmRobik wrote:
bad vote
so fucking obv.
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Hoya...on a scale of 1-10 how weird is it to talk at night
Also, on a scale of 1-10, how does it feel to be wrong on cruisette?
Also, why didn't you think she was too fucking mafia to be mafia. I think that was like the obvious conclusion to draw from all that.
Also, I'll probably be dead tonight.
Also, I might be meta-ing it so that they don't kill me tonight
Here's to wishing.
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Didn't even realize we could, feels weird.
It feels frustrating to be wrong on Cruisette because that explanation still doesn't make any sense to me, she wasn't even referring to anything when she decided to ride or die and I'm pretty sure I'd lynch her for that reason if it ever came up again anyway. If my read had been that she sounds super wolfy it might have occurred to me that she deserves the TWTBAW treatment but this was just an obvious fake read (that actually wasn't, apparently).
Don't think it was obvious at all, didn't like your "bad vote" post since you didn't say that to me and I'm the one who pushed her into the lead, and don't like you coming at me with your "why weren't you right for the wrong reasons" argument now.
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On March 06 2014 08:41 IAmRobik wrote:
I started to make a post from my car, but it wouldn't let me fix the voice-to-text malarky that my phone was converting. Moose, please explain what exactly you agree with in what Cruisette wrote? I'm not saying that I think she's scum...in fact, I think the opposite, but it has NOTHING to do with what she said and 100% to do with how she said it. Please elaborate
Just because you didn't read my post, didn't mean I didn't make it.
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I didn't agree with that or I wouldn't have voted her.
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On March 08 2014 05:00 CPHoya wrote:
I didn't agree with that or I wouldn't have voted her.
I guess that's just cause you're not good at tone reads ^_^
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On March 08 2014 02:25 CPHoya wrote:
Sup bros. I though we had until tonight and apparently we don't, so I'll be catching up immediately. Don't ever vote sqrtofneg1 though, I'm about halfway through and that's obvious.
Also, I don't want to bash you too hard, but the day was 48hrs long, and you participated in like 1.5 of them? Is this the level of participation we should expect? If so, you're gonna have to do a way better job of convincing me that you're town.
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No, as you can see I assumed "night" would fall at real-life night and planned to just interact all day while I worked. You should expect me to participate normally from now on, which means you'll get plenty of me until I'm dead.
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I mean that's a tone read obviously but I don't think it's an obvious tone read, especially on someone I don't even know who seems to be faking a read or "pocketing" anyway. I'm just not gonna feel that bad about that vote.
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She clearly misread the thread for whatever reason. Her reads were WAY TOO WISHY WASHY for her to be scum. It wasn't like she was trying to hide it. It was like blatantly obvious that she was swinging from one pole to the other and back around. 1) scum are more likely to hold true to one opinion and push it to the very end until they are forced to be like "well, i guess since this guy is clear, i must have been wrong on you all game", whereas town are more willing to reconsider as things progress 2) i don't have a two, but i thought i was going to have a list for this, so now I'm just typing words until i feel like THIS is a good place to stop.
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dat stream of consciousness
do people usually show up during night or what's the story
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I dunno. I hate posting at night cause it might lead mafia in a certain direction...but I've decided to try it out? idk. And yeah...i'm all about stream of conscious posting...it's easy to do as town and super difficult as scum
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Part of me feels like doing everything I can to get killed ASAP is the best way to play this.
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Because drawing a night kill is excellent unless I'm the medic or the cop, in which case I want to look like I'm not the medic or the cop.
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Right on bortha
I totally agree
Can't you see how much I agree with you!?!?!?
K!
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I am shocked - shocked! - to find leveling in mafia.
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Since I've only played IRL mafia, speaking at night is strange.
At least my Cruisette read was correct.
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What happens to Pretzel? Does he get replaced? Modkilled?
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
The standard procedure for this sort of thing is to just modkill him, but an alternative and common procedure is replacement. I'm looking for a replacement.
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So night's going to end soon. Tomorrow Mirks and tambo need to be looked at closely and obviously whoever gets subbed in for Pretzel will have to be looked at as well. If CPHoya doesn't provide adequate content then he too should be considered. For now I'd say the rest of the people are off the time.
Peace.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Day 2
By the time they forced their way through the crypto, the Passengers had lost another of their number. Fortunately for them, the Criminals were mostly occupied in reprogramming the ship's computer. With the element of surprise, they stood a chance of retaking the ship. If they got caught in a long corridor, though, they wouldn't stand a chance against a man armed with a blaster.
The Passengers gathered around to discuss their next course of action.
IAmRobik the Voyager has been shot!
Pretzelshop the Voyager has been modkilled for inactivity!
Welcome to Day 2. This Day ends in about 48 hours from this post at Monday, Mar 10 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
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So i want to be first off to say that Robik dying isn't as much of a surprise to me. I think just about all of use had him as town.
Personally i believe that this puts a lot more scum on the people who play with robik more often. I was wrong on cruise but my scum tells are still there on Mirks and Tambo.
These are the people i want to focus on the most i would also love to hear more from Hoya as i have yet to get a lot of information from him, although from his post i really like what he had to say.
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It's only day 2, and we have 4 town, 2 maf.
The mafia can win next next day if we don't lynch correctly, we lose one person due to mislynch, and we also lose one person at night. Then it's 2 town, 2 maf. It's crucial that we lynch correctly.
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Anyone willing to say that they were roleblocked?
I wasn't.
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TBH, you have really nothing to lose if you say you were roleblocked, unless we have 2 people who say they were, then we have a problem.
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My, my, it's quiet now that Robik left.
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i didnt get roll blocked either
ok well the person im most suspicious of would have to be tambo, robik did not like him, he also voted on cruisette. at this point, i think he would have to be the best lynch imo.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Rule Clarification: you may vote for a no-lynch, and no-lynch is treated as a candidate. If no-lynch receives the most votes, the day ends without a lynch taking place.
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So currently i want to say about this post that i wonder where everyone went. The day began and we have yet to hear from tambo, mircs and hoya the man who said he would post more.
Currently i do not like this as it is going to be quite tough to find the last mafia in between the group since no one is really posting.
I am quite scared as it is MYLO. I really do not like to sleep but that might be the best option at the moment. This is a idea i want to hear more from town to see if they like this idea.
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Also i was not Role-Blocked.
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no lynching is probably our safest option.
moose do you think it is mirks and tambo together?
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Hello everyone I've been busy with real life the past 2 days and I currently am at work so it's hard for me to give a good and detailed answer with quotes and such. With today being mylo we have two clear cut options. Lynch or sleep.
Pros to sleeping.
We will live to see tomorrow and cannot lose today with a mis lynch. Also reducing out numbers can be a good thing as there were a lot of day 1 interactions that we can start to consider if another fellow townie dies in the night.
Cons.
Mafia kill off another townie and they can control the voting better tomorrow and can hammer with some late votes if our analysis is wrong.
I find it odd that people are talking about if they were roleblocked. Maybe I don't understand what that means but I feel that everyone responding to that is bad for town as mafia could be role hunting (if we have any roles). Suggesting you were not roleblocked just hints that your not a role and mafia can jus come out and say I wasn't roleblocked.
do voyageurs get told if they are roleblocked?
Depending on the answer of I get from the mod I will further evaluate that read on people asking about getting roleblocked or not.
More to come on my lunch break.
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On March 09 2014 23:51 mtamburini wrote:
do voyageurs get told if they are roleblocked?
Roleblock notifications occur regardless of what role the target has, see OP's description of Mafia RBer (the bold):
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Punk (Mafia RB): You and your friend are trying to hijack the transport ship. He's in charge of managing the passengers while you hack the autopilot. If this works, you'll take home a handsome ransom. You are scum. Each night, you may RB a target. You can RB and send in the factional KP in the same night if you are the last scum. The target, even if he is a VT, is notified of being roleblocked. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.
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We need a lot more interaction before Monday, and I'll be here all day.
First the mechanics of this: with 6 people alive and 2 mafia we should strongly consider just no-lynching, because that way only 1 person dies during "today's" day/night cycle and "tomorrow" we wake up with a smaller pool of players (less mistakes will remain available to us). I think that's valuable in a game where it's hard to clear anyone after the first day. This will change if we have a power role available to out something beneficial. If I have something beneficial I'm not prepared to say it yet.
I was not role blocked.
I still think Tambo is really obvious town.
I don't like this post from Moose:
On March 09 2014 22:25 Moose_ wrote:
So currently i want to say about this post that i wonder where everyone went. The day began and we have yet to hear from tambo, mircs and hoya the man who said he would post more.
Currently i do not like this as it is going to be quite tough to find the last mafia in between the group since no one is really posting.
I am quite scared as it is MYLO. I really do not like to sleep but that might be the best option at the moment. This is a idea i want to hear more from town to see if they like this idea.
I want to hear more about what you mean by "the last mafia".
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mirks, I need to hear all your reads with explanations ASAP, I asked you for this yesterday and didn't get anything from you.
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Okay so I re-read everything again. This is more to help me than to interact about the following but it's helpful to me. I'm kind of having a hard time following the thread because the names are similar (keep mixing up moose and mirks) and the posts all look the same (needs AVATARS). Here are the basic events in order:
Robik going hard at mirks (I like this).
me telling mirks we need more reads from him and to clarify what he's doing, and I reiterate this later (I don't like that he never responded)
mirks going hard at sqrt (I don't like this).
Moose wants to lynch me, pretzel or thorgear for not posting yet, tambo thinks that's scummy (I agree)
sqrt makes a big case on mirks and votes him (I like this), reads tambo soft mafia, and reads robik and cruisette as town (I like this whole post in retrospect, but I think I disagree with the conclusion about tambo)
Moose comes at mirks, cruisette and tambo in one post here (I hate this post, especially the end about how consensus shouldn't dictate who you vote)
mirks votes sqrt (hate hate hate)
I come in and make a long post with a lot of reads, concluding that Cruisette is the best vote and that Cruisette, mirks and pretzel would probably contain all mafia through process of elimination. Oops.
tambo likes my reads and post (I was wrong but I feel like this was genuine from him, not mafia from him)
tambo posts reads on EVERYONE but votes Cruisette (I still think that's reasonable)
Cruisette gets lynched and flips town.
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No, I did not get roleblocked.
Also looks like we we wrong on cruisette. I'm sorry for pinging her out first but she was incredibly scummy in my eyes.
Moose - He's looking stranger as the game goes on. I liked his tone on day 1 but he hasn't really contributed anything that has sold me as town. I agree with hoya that him saying the last mafia is really weird.
SQRT - This guy is my number 1 scum. I don't like the way that he voted me yesterday and tried to make it look like I was subvertly trying to get cruisette lynched. Also I said before in my reads it really looked like he knew cruisette was town and was defending a townie for credit. Its a mafia play to defend the person who looks the scummiest and looks like they are gonna get lynched that day. Theres also the connection between him and tambo, where he gave strong reads on tambo being mafia and then proceeds to vote me.
Hoya - I've liked the content you provide so far, but i know you are a strong player in forum mafia and I have no reads as to your alignment.
Thorgear- I'd say thor is my top town. He was on the same page with me yesterday on the sqrt read .I like the way on day 1 he made alot of typos and grammatical errors and I feel like town is more likely to not give a shit what they post. That said, I'd like to hear some more content from him today.
I also agree that not lynching today is the best play. The absolute worst play town can make today fmpov is lynching me and mafia wins.
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On March 10 2014 05:28 CPHoya wrote:sqrt makes a big case on mirks and votes him (I like this), reads tambo soft mafia, and reads robik and cruisette as town (I like this whole post in retrospect, but I think I disagree with the conclusion about tambo)
Can to elaborate his big case on me? I'm not even gonna look it up but I'm pretty sure his case was "Mirks is trying to make us think cruisette is mafia by voting on her and addressing something really scummy she said. Now fmpov, especially now that we know cruisette is town, I can't get over how in the world he knew that day 1 and thought i was scummy for voting her. His vote on me was miles more scummier than anything that happened that day.
And once again I'm getting that same feeling from you hoya. Your summary of the game seems to be completely centered around me .I'm sorry if Its OMGUS, but I feel that with robert dead and flipped town that both of the mafia will probably be pushing me today. You just got added to that list with sqrt.
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I also think thor is town.
Moose saying last mafia is really weird.
I think I misread tambo.
I can understand why mirks thinks I'm mafia, because I had no real reason to defend cruisette.
No lynch seems like the right play.
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On March 07 2014 01:12 Moose_ wrote:
So my biggest issue with, "just waiting on people to reply" and never worrying about them is currently there is 2 people who have yet to post, if we probe each other all day here and start scum hunting within us eventually one will turn scum. What if the 2 people who have yet to post are the scum so we wasted all this time reading each other to get false reads. So although i am so for only reading the people posting unless they get replaced soon i am okay lynching them.
So this post here would be my biggest strike against moose right now. The fact he was willing to kill someone who hasnt posted and could potentially be replaced seems scummy to me. Although this is kinda a thing done in video mafia (lynch the quiet people), If he has perfect information he can easily push that mislynch. Reading more into his post today he was the first to post so he could quickly suggest something from the night kills as mafia generally kill people so they can set up discussion for next day. Today we will most likely be going to seep and I do not know how everyone feels about giving out their top 2 scum at this point as it could dictate who the mafia are gonna kill tonight and try and meta it but I think discussion should still happen today at the very least.
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Something interesting that happened yesterday was mirks and sqrt both voted on eachother. Generally when I see something like this I immediately think 1 between them.
Sqrt also mentioned that he thought Moose and Robert were just two town fighting. Do you still think that is a fair assessment at this point in the game? Could you and mirks be two town fighting as well?
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mirks you're making it sound like the game comes down to whether the wolf team is exactly sqrt and thor, or Moose and you, and if I have to make that decision I'm going with Moose and you over both of them, based on tone and content
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I still want Moose to tell us what he meant by "the last mafia"
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I dont see those lines being that clear CPHoya. Is there something that I am missing?
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On March 10 2014 06:00 mtamburini wrote:
Something interesting that happened yesterday was mirks and sqrt both voted on eachother. Generally when I see something like this I immediately think 1 between them.
Sqrt also mentioned that he thought Moose and Robert were just two town fighting. Do you still think that is a fair assessment at this point in the game? Could you and mirks be two town fighting as well?
Possibly.
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On March 10 2014 06:58 CPHoya wrote:
mirks you're making it sound like the game comes down to whether the wolf team is exactly sqrt and thor, or Moose and you, and if I have to make that decision I'm going with Moose and you over both of them, based on tone and content
What about tambo? Have you cleared him? Why?
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On March 10 2014 07:53 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 06:58 CPHoya wrote:
mirks you're making it sound like the game comes down to whether the wolf team is exactly sqrt and thor, or Moose and you, and if I have to make that decision I'm going with Moose and you over both of them, based on tone and content What about tambo? Have you cleared him? Why?
I was wondering the same thing sqrt. I was happy finally saw me as town, but then the idea of me slipping into a pocket started crossing my mind making me paranoid. Thats why I wanted CPHoya to explain why these lines are possible.
Where is your head at so far besides my question?
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On March 10 2014 07:59 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 07:53 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On March 10 2014 06:58 CPHoya wrote:
mirks you're making it sound like the game comes down to whether the wolf team is exactly sqrt and thor, or Moose and you, and if I have to make that decision I'm going with Moose and you over both of them, based on tone and content What about tambo? Have you cleared him? Why? I was wondering the same thing sqrt. I was happy finally saw me as town, but then the idea of me slipping into a pocket started crossing my mind making me paranoid. Thats why I wanted CPHoya to explain why these lines are possible. Where is your head at so far besides my question?
Who, me?
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I think it probably is mirks, moose.
But it could be some other combination, like hoya you, or hoya thor, or you thor, but I think that if mirks is one of them, moose is the other. But it could be moose + someone other than mirks.
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I say no lynch today.
##Vote No Lynch
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Whoops, EBWOP
On March 10 2014 08:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I say no lynch today.
##Vote No Lynch
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Yeah I've got sqrt and tambo as probably town by a wide margin over mirks and Moose and by a smaller margin over Thor. Mirks's post means, from my perspective, that he pretty much has to believe that the wolf team is sqrt and thor, and that doesn't work for me. What's a good explanation for why something doesn't work for me? Probably that it just doesn't work but he doesn't have a better option.
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You're avoiding my question. Why did you clear tambo?
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Oh, I want to clear tambo because his posts make it clear he's trying to puzzle out the game and I feel I can understand his reads. Also he's taking the time to make long posts of his own accord instead of after being prodded. Also he popped in from work lunch with thoughts he was probably mulling over during work, which suggests he's probably just trying to solve a puzzle and wants to be heard. That's town to me.
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And you is kind of just a tone read but whatever, you're similar to him and I think I can roll with that today.
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Also mirks tried to lynch you on some shit I still do not understand and that he hasn't explained to me even though I've been asking.
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On March 10 2014 05:32 mirks wrote:
No, I did not get roleblocked.
Also looks like we we wrong on cruisette. I'm sorry for pinging her out first but she was incredibly scummy in my eyes.
Moose - He's looking stranger as the game goes on. I liked his tone on day 1 but he hasn't really contributed anything that has sold me as town. I agree with hoya that him saying the last mafia is really weird.
SQRT - This guy is my number 1 scum. I don't like the way that he voted me yesterday and tried to make it look like I was subvertly trying to get cruisette lynched. Also I said before in my reads it really looked like he knew cruisette was town and was defending a townie for credit. Its a mafia play to defend the person who looks the scummiest and looks like they are gonna get lynched that day. Theres also the connection between him and tambo, where he gave strong reads on tambo being mafia and then proceeds to vote me.
Hoya - I've liked the content you provide so far, but i know you are a strong player in forum mafia and I have no reads as to your alignment.
Thorgear- I'd say thor is my top town. He was on the same page with me yesterday on the sqrt read .I like the way on day 1 he made alot of typos and grammatical errors and I feel like town is more likely to not give a shit what they post. That said, I'd like to hear some more content from him today.
I also agree that not lynching today is the best play. The absolute worst play town can make today fmpov is lynching me and mafia wins.
So basically, I'm mafia because I voted him, and somehow knew cruisette was town. He's saying I'm mafia, so I know who else is mafia, so anyone who's not mafia is guaranteed town. So, when I say cruisette is town, and she flips town, it'll make me look trustworthy, and then everyone will follow me to lynch mirks.
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Oh, also, thor hasn't posted today.
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i posted earlier on today, after you first posts of the day.
my biggest problem with people going on mirks, is that no one is defending him. and yesterday he could of easily kept his vote on cruisette and made it 2-2 vote count on cruisette at the time.
if we are going to lynch someone today it should be out of the people that voted for cruisette.
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On March 10 2014 09:14 Thorgear wrote:
i posted earlier on today, after you first posts of the day.
my biggest problem with people going on mirks, is that no one is defending him. and yesterday he could of easily kept his vote on cruisette and made it 2-2 vote count on cruisette at the time.
if we are going to lynch someone today it should be out of the people that voted for cruisette.
My apologies.
I'm going for a no lynch, so that we can narrow it down better.
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Yeah I thought no lynch had been explained as the obviously superior thing to do today.
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On March 10 2014 09:14 Thorgear wrote:
i posted earlier on today, after you first posts of the day.
my biggest problem with people going on mirks, is that no one is defending him. and yesterday he could of easily kept his vote on cruisette and made it 2-2 vote count on cruisette at the time.
if we are going to lynch someone today it should be out of the people that voted for cruisette.
If you are suggesting Mafia voted on Cruisette, do you think one or both did?
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im not sure if both did, atleast 1 of them did.
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So sorry for my inactivity, was quite busy today with a few things.
So me saying last mafia was a mistake by me. I was typing out one thing then changed my mind on how i was going to say it, the final product of my post was a sentence i did not mean to be said the way it was said. It was meant to just read mafia not last mafia.
As for reads so i still currently have thor as my top town. As for Sqrt and mirks they have had a very interesting discussion/fight between them i am quite sure there is atleast one mafia between them and i am currently leaning torwards rick.
Now to try and figure out who the last mafia is this is the difficult part. Currently we have CP hoya trying to clear tambo and say its me and 1 between the same 2 i suggested, as i am town i cannot see this being a thing unless both mirks and sqrt are mafia which i also cannot see.
So i will be taking a closer look at both tambo and Hoya.
As for the lynching the postless people i dont see how that is scummy. In my eyes it was day one where as town we had 2 miss lynches and in a place where i read someone as scum in my eyes they would have a equal opportunity to be maf as well. So that is where i am coming from
Today sleep is easily the option.
##Vote No Lynch
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Vote Count
No Lynch (2) - sqrtofneg1, Moose_
Not Voting (4) - CPHoya, Thorgear, mirks, mtamburini
Currently a NO LYNCH is set to occur
Day ends at Monday, Mar 10 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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what are your reasons for mirks being more scummy?
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Deadline Clarification
Due to a quirk of American timekeeping, Americans set their clocks 1 hour forward today, which may confuse people about the deadline. To be clear, the deadline is 48 hours, counted from the start of the day. I don't care what time the end of the day happens, just that it happens exactly 48 hours after the day started.
This Day at Monday, Mar 10 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), so just about 14 hours from the moment this post happened.
Here's a fancy countdown thingy for you guys. The day ends in: .
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#Vote: No lynch
Robik flipped town so I can tell you with 100% certainty that at least 1 mafia voted on cruisette. The worlds I see are sqrt with either tambo or hoya. The connection to tambo being his read on him day 1 and lack of a vote. That shouts at me that he was typing a long read post and included his teammate, then got lazy at the end with his read on me and voted me. Hoya not understanding that confused me and could make him scum with sqrt.
I'm gonna re-evaluate the game tomorrow based on the assumption that sqrt is town and see what I can come up with.
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##Vote: No Lynch
More to say later, mirks I want to talk with you before today ends because I think I'm gonna die and I want to give a good read on you before I'm gone.
Start here: I don't agree with you at all about sqrt and haven't one time thought I was wrong about that read.
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So mirks in my opinion has had some really bad reads this game and normally i am okay with that maybe just misguided town, but today i feel as though they are more fabricated reads. I may be wrong myself on this read i just dont know if i like it.
Also quite a bit of people jump on the bandwagon of calling me out about writting last mafia. Which is something i am not sure i like and is something i am need to keep an eye out for.
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I get it, you think he's town. I disagree, and I know my alignment, I don't know yours, so my reads trumps yours. I've explained it, even he explained it to you. Care to explain what makes him town?
I don't get you defending him, if sqrt is mafia its almost certain that tambo is his partner. He laid a case against him day 1 and since then has left him out of his mafia reads but still seems concerned with questioning people on tambo's alignment. So why don't you see sqrt as mafia?
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On March 10 2014 22:54 Moose_ wrote:
So mirks in my opinion has had some really bad reads this game and normally i am okay with that maybe just misguided town, but today i feel as though they are more fabricated reads.
FABRICATED READS. What was fabricated about my reads?
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##Vote: No lynch
Not sure what to think right now, with people drawing lines that it could be this pair or people or that I think it could be any combination of you 5!
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I'm off to bed so won't be posting for 12ish hours.
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Vote Count
No Lynch (5) - sqrtofneg1, Moose_, mirks, mtamburini, CPHoya
Not Voting (1) - Thorgear
Currently a NO LYNCH is set to occur
Day ends at Monday, Mar 10 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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On March 10 2014 23:05 mirks wrote:
I get it, you think he's town. I disagree, and I know my alignment, I don't know yours, so my reads trumps yours. I've explained it, even he explained it to you. Care to explain what makes him town?
I don't get you defending him, if sqrt is mafia its almost certain that tambo is his partner. He laid a case against him day 1 and since then has left him out of his mafia reads but still seems concerned with questioning people on tambo's alignment. So why don't you see sqrt as mafia?
I can't tell if this is to me but I'm going to assume it is since this is what I want to talk about. I'm pretty sure sqrt is town because he's making posts that seem town:
On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them.
I already said this post is super town but I'm happy to reiterate it here: the part in bold is really really clever mafia posting if it actually is mafia posting, which I really doubt.
On March 06 2014 06:08 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
As it is a new game type for me also.
The interaction between Robik and Moose is, I think simply townies probing for information. Which is great.
I say we probe everyone, especially those who haven't posted since the game started. But, if the interaction between you two becomes a hostility, then all the mafia need to do is to you guys fight it out, ending in a couple of free kills.
Another good motivation post.
On March 06 2014 06:14 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
mirks, what's your take on this?
Starts immediately probing you.
Right after Cruisette gets lynched and flips town sqrt says:
On March 08 2014 09:05 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Since I've only played IRL mafia, speaking at night is strange.
At least my Cruisette read was correct.
Which I find to be another post too clever for mafia, especially since it's followed up by another good example of thinking about the game:
On March 09 2014 05:42 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Anyone willing to say that they were roleblocked?
I wasn't.
So basically sqrt wants to get things right and sounds town and I don't see any reason to think otherwise. For you it's because sqrt voted you, which isn't a reason as much as spite.
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Thor, do you remember what you were trying to say when you said "the last mafia"?
Also you have it wrong, my strongest mafia reads are mirks and Moose, not you. Not sure where you're getting that.
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Not thor, Moose. That whole post is wrong, I mixed you guys up.
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So let's just try that again:
MOOSE, do you remember what you were trying to say when you said "the last mafia"?
Also you have it kinda wrong still, I don't think it's you and then either mirks or thor, I think you and mirks are mafia and thor would be my fall back option that we don't even have time for anyway.
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Final Vote Count
No Lynch (6) - sqrtofneg1, Moose_, mirks, mtamburini, CPHoya, Thorgear
Not Voting (0) -
Currently a NO LYNCH is set to occur
Day ends at Monday, Mar 10 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
Edited to the final vote count since no posts after this.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Night 2
For a moment, a heartbeat, they stopped. Something rumbled from deep within the ship, the distortion engines straining against spacetime to draw the bulk through void between stars. That heartbeat dragged on and on, until an eternity of subjective experience semed to come crashing down on them. With breath held and time stopped, there was no way to tell how much subjective time was passing. Trapped in their own motionless bodies, the consciousnesses of all on board, be they Criminal or legitimate Passenger, screamed in agony, trapped in the gap between one moment and the next.
Inwardly, silently, they twisted in pain and meaningless sadness. How long did they spend in that margin between hearthbeats, that error bar on the graph of reality? As far as instruments measured, no time at all.
With no way to tell when their torture to end, no happy unconsciousness to sink into, one by one, our heroes fell twisted. Thousands of subject hours alone in their skulls, with no new sensory inputs, no way to tell time. Gradually, their personalities warped and deformed.
A fraction of a second and a thousand hours later, the next heartbeat, the next eternity and life resumes its normal pace.
They all crumple to the floor, screaming, unable to process, unable to understand what happened. Everyone onboard is incapacitated for hours.
Welcome to Night 2. This Day ends in about 24 hours from this post at Tuesday, Mar 11 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
You can speak at night. If you have night actions, get them in to both me and balla24 before the deadline.
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I'm still not used to speaking during night.
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Good night guys, I'm probably not gonna post til morning.
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Just noticed heartbeat is spelt wrong: it says hearthbeat in the night post.
It also says "Welcome to Night 2. This Day ends in ......."
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Day 3
As the madness waned, they regained their sense of where they were. The distortion engines weren't properly damped; the madness of the abyss was crushing in on their minds even now.
Not everyone recovered.
sqrtofneg1 the Voyager has been shot!
Welcome to Day 3. This Day ends in about 48 hours from this post at Thursday, Mar 13 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
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Well that was an unexpected twist to be honest. I will start by saying I was not roleblocked and will post something substantial in a couple hours currently at work.
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On March 11 2014 01:42 CPHoya wrote:
Thor, do you remember what you were trying to say when you said "the last mafia"?
Also you have it wrong, my strongest mafia reads are mirks and Moose, not you. Not sure where you're getting that.
Do you think mirks and thor are together or mirks and Moose? I know you posted you meant to say MOOSE instead of thor, but did you also mean to say the reverse in the second line as well? From my experience in mafia and looking at voting patterns all 4 people who voted on Cruisette are still alive so I know there is at least one mafia in there. Furthermore, I think it would be extremely ballsy for both mafia to vote on a town in this set up as it would give them away really easily IMO. Entering this day the person I wanted to pressure the most is Moose but from my previous statement I think mirks is probably our best lynch. Reading over the votes on Cruiestte, mirks was the first person to vote on Cruisette and then he switched his vote to sqrt who we now know is town. Easily can be done if he sees his partner has already voted on her and can split his vote for credibility. Now I dont know who he would be partnered is a mystery to me right now. Thinking about it makes me think it could probably be Moose because of that word slip but Im not sure.
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Also if you could suggest who you think the mafia is (your top 2 scum) that would be great!
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No action today huh? I really wanted some people to talk by now as were in lylo. So I will give you guys something to talk about when you do decide to read this.
I am Rick "Ace" Lewis and I got some information last night. There was a DIFFERENT check between 2 people. Someone has some explaining to do.
Moose was checked n1 and CPHoya checked n2.
One of you CC me please it would make this game a lot easier.
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so i know i am town so now i know that CPHoya has to be maf thanks to your check.
The question is who do you think is with him now?
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So currently the biggest thing people have against me is me having a misplay on my sentence i understand it was bad, but it happens.
I was liking Hoya too based of the quality of his posts quantity was not high but i do not think that is always needed. I thought him or Thor would die last night the based of the fact the sqrt had been posting less and less and his day 1 town train was slowing down in my opinion.
after hearing tambo come out as Mr Ace i actually like it i had him quite scummy and for the right reason it was to protect himself.
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I dont really care who either of you are with to be completely honest. Were focusing on which one of you 2 is mafia today.
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That is the question i am trying to figure out right now because i know he is mafia meaning i need to discover who else is mafia.
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For everyone else, we are voting between Moose or CPHoya today, please contribute your thoughts onto which one is mafia.
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i know which is mafia, since i am town Hoya must be mafia. Once i get home ill make a better post on points against us both.
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points against him and positives on myself to better state this.
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##Vote: Thorgear
Tambo, I feel like it's been explained far too much this game why I switched my vote. I thought sqrt was more scummy based on his day 1 long post in which he voted me for nebulous reasons. The logic is that mafia will defend a potential lynch who is town. Which made sense to me has he put hard point against you and voted me. Now that we know hes town I don't really care to talk about it, I was wrong, oh well. But the logic applies to thorgear aswell and I now know hes mafia.
I've been a target and thorgear he has been subtly defending me since day 1. I read him as super town for that but in reality he was defending me incase I was the day 2 lynch, barring a modkill.
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Can you quote some things to support why CPHoya or Moose is mafia not Thorgear. Were lynching between those 2 today. I dont care about how you read Thorgear at the moment and vice versa, provide your opinions on the other 2 people. Tell me why they are town, tell me why they are mafia.
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wait are you really pushing a lynch here on someone who ise not me or Hoya. Tambo is claiming parody cop and has a oppo allignment between us
##Vote CPHoya
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Tambo - Cop , barring a CC from thorgear/hoya
Mafia between Hoya and Moose (I don't know which)
Mafia between me and thorgear ( I know it's thorgear)
I'm more comfortable voting thorgear. If you wanna make this a thorgear or me day that's fine but you can't lynch me today or we lose.
So lynch thorgear and I will be confirmed town in final 3 against moose/hoya , unless someone who hasnt spoke today is a medic than that makes this easier.
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Mirks your really pissing me off now. Make a case for Moose and CPHoya being mafia or town.
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in repsonse to mirks. i dont understand why you are voting me when there is a cop with a red on moose or hoya.
also i thought it was pretty obvious that there was not going to be a day 2 lynch. the reason i was defending you was because i wanted to lynch out of the people that voted on cruisette.
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On March 07 2014 20:53 Moose_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 14:38 Thorgear wrote:
after going over everyone's reads, pretty much everyone has moose as town. i would like to hear what his reads are.
My biggest reads right now are that i really like sqrt and Thor you have really grown on me today. MY biggest issue with sqrt is he came out and gave a bunch of scum reads that seemed off from his own circles not sure how he can call all of tambo, mirksm cruise and some who has yet to post maf. I am sure he is just trying to make circles but i would like more clarification with this.
This is the only time moose has mentioned thorgear the whole game. "Thor you have really grown on me" and then he provides absolutely no reason for that and proceeds to ignore him for the rest of his game.
On March 11 2014 01:42 CPHoya wrote:
Thor, do you remember what you were trying to say when you said "the last mafia"?
Also you have it wrong, my strongest mafia reads are mirks and Moose, not you. Not sure where you're getting that.
This is the only time hoya has mentioned thor, by accidently saying thor when he was speaking to moose.
So I can see either one being with thor.....
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On March 12 2014 11:09 Thorgear wrote:
in repsonse to mirks. i dont understand why you are voting me when there is a cop with a red on moose or hoya.
also i thought it was pretty obvious that there was not going to be a day 2 lynch. the reason i was defending you was because i wanted to lynch out of the people that voted on cruisette.
I know you are mafia.
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On March 08 2014 05:08 CPHoya wrote:
No, as you can see I assumed "night" would fall at real-life night and planned to just interact all day while I worked. You should expect me to participate normally from now on, which means you'll get plenty of me until I'm dead.
Was this a fake claim.
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Thor do you think mirks is town or maf?
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So Thorgear, who do you think the mafia is between the people who voted on Cuisette. Me you Moose or CPHoya. Please bring up strong arguments in your case. Time in the day is dwindling down and no one has really tried to defend or attack anyone with anything of substance.
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Vote Count
Thorgear (1) - mirks
CPHoya (1) - Moose_
Not Voting (3) - mtamburini, CPHoya, Thorgear
Currently Thorgear is set to lynched.
Day ends at Thursday, Mar 13 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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i dont understand how you know im mafia, there is the possibilty that tambo is not actually cop. and you are basing everything off the fact that he is cop
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On March 06 2014 16:24 Thorgear wrote:
since i seem to be the only one posting around this time,i 'll say this. i do want the people who haven't posted yet to say something, but i wouldnt suggest we vote for them.. as i understand it, if they dont post at all during the day, they will get replaced or mod killed. thats why i think we should look at the people that are actually going to reply, as we can get information from that.
So after reading a few posts i am maybe really bad at this game for my reads being bad. I am still not sure between both rick and thor. But after digging back a few posts i see a bit more connections between both thor and Hoya
My other strong read is Thorgear showed up with believable reads that I'm feeling.
So here in another post that connect them from the other perspective.
Robik also told us to look more into Hoya which is something we have yet to really do either.
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On March 12 2014 11:33 Thorgear wrote:
i dont understand how you know im mafia, there is the possibilty that tambo is not actually cop. and you are basing everything off the fact that he is cop
Well currently no one is CCing him i understand that the game has a chance to have no cop but currently in my eyes i think i am going to believe him in this situation.
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If there was a counter claim, I'd reevaluate, and still come to the conclusion that you are mafia. If tambo is mafia fake claiming than he would do it on two towns in lylo, and the scumteam would be tambo/thorgear.
All of the mafia voted on cruisette, I am sorry that I voted first and sort of gave people a direction to lead her votes. She was super confused and that contributed to me changing my vote to sqrt.
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well you are of the cards for today unless there is a cc..
i would have to say its Moose and this is why
2 confirmed town thought he was mafia (unless cruisette thought he was town, then 1 did). my biggest red flag against moose is yesterday he was sure there was a mafia between sqrt and mirks. sqrt was town, so he should think that mirks is mafia, but he keeps asking who you think is the last mafia. i dont see how his mind could change that much.
also mirks was going to re-evaluate the game, under the asumption that sqrt was town and look into you and hoya. instead he just came out and voted me, saying he knows im mafia... imo he is saying he knows you are cop, cause moose is his partner and his only option left is to vote for me.
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Hoya is the only possible counterclaim at this point so unless hoya is cop/medic, then tambo IS the cop. Thor is still the lynch today cause he's mafia in both worlds in my eyes.
Thor is obviously deflecting off hoya in his last post, but is that WIFOM? I'd say its more likely he'd go for the win today and that points more towards hoya being the mafia in the two.
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in response to moose
well the fact that he wants to vote me off, and not vote of the red check is scummy to me,if he knows im mafia, why wouldnt he want to keep me in the final 3 for an easy last day. i dont think any town would take a gamble on voting me off today when there is a possible red check.
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As much as I like the conversations that are going on, lets try and talk about Moose and CPHoya and what they have done to looks scummy and what they have done to look town.
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let me break some math down for you thorgear. There are 5 people alive, 2 of them are mafia.
Tambo - Cop
Cphoya- Town OR Mafia There two people can't be the same alignment.
Moose - Town OR Mafia
Now in that world. There is 1 mafia between those 3 people. So the remaining mafia has to be either me or YOU.
If you were town you would want to vote me aswell but you seem to be pushing on moose and I'm still not sure what to read on that.
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if tambo is cop it doesnt matter who i push cause he has a red check on one of them and will reveal that before he dies in the night. so in that world you wouldnt have to read on who i am pushing..
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BOYS. To clarify there is one mafia between Moose and CPHoya. In the night I got a message saying they are of different allignment. We are gonna talk about what they have done that is scummy and what they have done that is town. THANKS.
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Thorgear seems to think you have a distinct red check.
That make me thinks that he called moose out as mafia because he is bussing and thinks it will buy him town credit TODAY, rather than if he properly knew how the parity cop worked he world he would be more likely to go for the win today and try to lynch the town.
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And tambo, this is me contributing to cphoya/moose issue. I believe you are the cop and the best thing I can do it look at the connection between who I know to be confirmed mafia (Thorgear), and either of those two. I'm still waaaaaaaay more comfortable lynching thorgear today over either of them. But I would like to here your opinion on them today if thats the case.
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the only thing i have against hoya is that he got his town reads correct yesterday.
i still dont want to vote against mirks today. but im assuming that hoya will vote moose, so it looks like i will have too
i also think its a possibility that tambo is mafia and suggested a mafia and a town. dont understand why no one else is considering this.
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as for the parity cop i didnt know cops could work that way.
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being confirmed town in the final 3 doesn't benefit town in anyway in my opinion cause it just comes back to the same question we have today.
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On March 12 2014 15:37 Thorgear wrote:
being confirmed town in the final 3 doesn't benefit town in anyway in my opinion cause it just comes back to the same question we have today.
being confirmed town in the final 3 with moose/hoya doesn't benefit town in anyway in my opinion cause it just comes back to the same question we have today.
EBWOP
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On March 09 2014 01:31 IAmRobik wrote:
So night's going to end soon. Tomorrow Mirks and tambo need to be looked at closely and obviously whoever gets subbed in for Pretzel will have to be looked at as well. If CPHoya doesn't provide adequate content then he too should be considered. For now I'd say the rest of the people are off the time.
Peace.
So this was Robiks last post it has nothing to do with me being maf although at the beginning he hadd a scum tell on me i think he thought i was more neutral townish than them. Cruise i think also had me towny i believe. I need to re look at sqrts reads although i remember him reading me town day one.
Hoya has still yet to post much content at all and is making this final 5 really hard for town i know i have a mafia in him since i believe tambo is the cop. The only thing i have againt there not being a CC on tambo is the fact that there is a chance that in this set up there is no cop.
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On March 12 2014 14:24 mirks wrote:
And tambo, this is me contributing to cphoya/moose issue. I believe you are the cop and the best thing I can do it look at the connection between who I know to be confirmed mafia (Thorgear), and either of those two. I'm still waaaaaaaay more comfortable lynching thorgear today over either of them. But I would like to here your opinion on them today if thats the case.
So the reason I will not speak about them is because Id rather here what you guys have to say as Im pretty sure my mind is made up who I will hammer. Ive got compelling arguments against all of you and why you should die but 1 of you more than the others. Hearing your input on what you think about CPHoya and Moose will help sway my decision one way or another. The WIFOM is extremely high with you Rick, quote some things in this thread that prove your point one way or the other.
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On March 12 2014 06:00 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 01:42 CPHoya wrote:
Thor, do you remember what you were trying to say when you said "the last mafia"?
Also you have it wrong, my strongest mafia reads are mirks and Moose, not you. Not sure where you're getting that. Do you think mirks and thor are together or mirks and Moose? I know you posted you meant to say MOOSE instead of thor, but did you also mean to say the reverse in the second line as well? From my experience in mafia and looking at voting patterns all 4 people who voted on Cruisette are still alive so I know there is at least one mafia in there. Furthermore, I think it would be extremely ballsy for both mafia to vote on a town in this set up as it would give them away really easily IMO. Entering this day the person I wanted to pressure the most is Moose but from my previous statement I think mirks is probably our best lynch. Reading over the votes on Cruiestte, mirks was the first person to vote on Cruisette and then he switched his vote to sqrt who we now know is town. Easily can be done if he sees his partner has already voted on her and can split his vote for credibility. Now I dont know who he would be partnered is a mystery to me right now. Thinking about it makes me think it could probably be Moose because of that word slip but Im not sure.
I think it's mirks and Moose, I was pretty clear about that yesterday. Plus with sqrt flipping town I feel good about my reads. It is a little odd that you don't remember what I said about mirks and Moose since I said it twice and reiterated it.
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On March 12 2014 08:16 mtamburini wrote:
No action today huh? I really wanted some people to talk by now as were in lylo. So I will give you guys something to talk about when you do decide to read this.
I am Rick "Ace" Lewis and I got some information last night. There was a DIFFERENT check between 2 people. Someone has some explaining to do.
Moose was checked n1 and CPHoya checked n2.
One of you CC me please it would make this game a lot easier.
lol at this being the next thing I read
##Vote: Moose
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On March 12 2014 10:40 mirks wrote:
##Vote: Thorgear
Tambo, I feel like it's been explained far too much this game why I switched my vote. I thought sqrt was more scummy based on his day 1 long post in which he voted me for nebulous reasons. The logic is that mafia will defend a potential lynch who is town. Which made sense to me has he put hard point against you and voted me. Now that we know hes town I don't really care to talk about it, I was wrong, oh well. But the logic applies to thorgear aswell and I now know hes mafia.
I've been a target and thorgear he has been subtly defending me since day 1. I read him as super town for that but in reality he was defending me incase I was the day 2 lynch, barring a modkill.
So we lynch Moose and then the problem is if you're town this vote is going to end up dooming you because it just looks like you want the other mislynch and the win right now. The cop just claimed, it's obviously me or Moose.
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So it looks like you guys want to try and draw lines instead of trying to show that one of the 2 people I have put up has been acting scummy. I dont think this is a great Idea and your simply pointing out the obvious. Mirks you can fight with Thor tomorrow about who is more town, right now just quote some stuff they have said that makes them scummy. You as well Thor. Hoya and Moose I suggest you do the same.
Moose had the word slip of last mafia.
Hoya had the name switch incident with Thor and Moose.
Is there anything else that gives them strikes against or for them?
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Vote Count
Thorgear (1) - mirks
CPHoya (1) - Moose_
Moose_ (1) - CPHoya
Not Voting (2) - mtamburini, Thorgear
Currently Thorgear is set to lynched.
Day ends at Thursday, Mar 13 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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I don't see how the word slip would be a strike against me (again, we need avatars). From your perspective I'd think you'd see that I'm sort of obvious (?) and we'd just lynch Moose and try to win tomorrow but if we have to let's talk it out.
Also I had the thought that if you're mafia your equity to fake claim Ace is pretty high since there's no guarantee that there even was an Ace in the game in the first place (meaning 50% of the time a counter-claim would be impossible) and even if there was you can be pretty roughly 60% confident that he's dead anyway. Then all you have to do is fake claim with two town and naturally one will die since there won't be a counter, and that's game over. This scares me.
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Actually the elite play would be for both to claim and force a 0% success rate lynch outside the claims.
*trap set*
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Vote Count
Thorgear (1) - mirks
CPHoya (1) - Moose_
Moose_ (1) - CPHoya
mirks (1) - Thorgear
Not Voting (1) - mtamburini
Currently Thorgear is set to lynched.
Day ends at Thursday, Mar 13 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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You guys are just leaving me to hammer REALLY
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Thorgear why did you vote mirks?
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well you are cop, if i vote who i think is mafia then your vote wont count at all, unless its on the same person, so i would rather have the cops vote actually count,
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im talking about voting out of moose/hoya if that wasnt clear.
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Which one do you think is mafia and why?
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On March 12 2014 12:13 Thorgear wrote:
well you are of the cards for today unless there is a cc..
i would have to say its Moose and this is why
2 confirmed town thought he was mafia (unless cruisette thought he was town, then 1 did). my biggest red flag against moose is yesterday he was sure there was a mafia between sqrt and mirks. sqrt was town, so he should think that mirks is mafia, but he keeps asking who you think is the last mafia. i dont see how his mind could change that much.
also mirks was going to re-evaluate the game, under the asumption that sqrt was town and look into you and hoya. instead he just came out and voted me, saying he knows im mafia... imo he is saying he knows you are cop, cause moose is his partner and his only option left is to vote for me.
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So today hoya has said nothing except that he is town lynch moose. He brought up the cop thing which i already stated earler.
He also avoided all my points against him that i had i think the lynch is quite obvious here guys lynch hoya than tomorrow we figure out this game in final 3.
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Sorry I've been gone, slept and then got called to work for 10hours.
The lynch today is still thorgear, hoya comes in at a distant second because I don't think he would bus his partner in lylo.
Tamburini, I AM TOWN, PLEASE LYNCH THOR KKTHX
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My heart and my head are fighting with one another right now.
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Tambo I don't believe there's merit in me telling you why I think you should think that I am town when the only real reason is you can tell I'm reading in real time as opposed to just saying things to say them. And of course I've been right on a lot while just dramatically wrong on Cruisette, who would've been lynched whether I was wrong or not.
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The point there being I didn't need to get out in front of lynching Cruisette and wouldn't have if I were mafia.
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Also Moose whining that I'm not responding to his points on me is interesting since I know they're by definition terrible.
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On March 06 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Moose, please don't clutter this thread with the nonsense that you clutter games with. Tambo, please be civilized with regards to Moose. Mirks, I'm can't refer to you as Rick this game. DUCY?
On March 06 2014 05:04 Moose_ wrote:
Robik please refrain from worthless posts that proceed to do nothing for town. Thanks.
On March 06 2014 05:36 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:04 Moose_ wrote:
Robik please refrain from worthless posts that proceed to do nothing for town. Thanks. are you mad that you got randed maf? is that why you're coming out so passive aggresively? I'd lynch the shit out of you and not think twice.
On March 06 2014 05:43 mirks wrote:
That same logic applies to you Robik
On March 06 2014 05:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Not true A5. It doesn't apply to me cause it is my standard game to be rude and obnoxious and aggressive (maybe even passive aggressive, i.e. my relationship with many DMers), whereas that's not the case with Moose, who I expect to be even more douchey and more aggressive without the passivity.
On March 06 2014 05:56 Moose_ wrote:
Currently you are using video logic mafia here on forums. Where i get to think way more before i type. So here expect a different play from me.
I'm just gonna read the whole thing and point out what looks bad for Moose, Thor or mirks or good for me (and own up to what looks bad for me re: Cruisete).
For example, here Robik comes at Moose about something stupid that no one ever would have cared about, and Moose gets super tilted immediately. It doesn't mean anything to say that a post does nothing for town (usually you'd say "us" by the way) but it's an especially odd response to what is at worst a bad joke. Then Robik says he'd lynch Moose and not think twice, which I earlier said couldn't ever have been true that early (I'm sure it was just pressure / essentially another joke) and we get mirks saying that "the same logic" - that logic is going on in these posts, seriously - applies to Robik.
???? Robik isn't being passive aggressive, he's going HAM, which is what Robik says. Then Moose jumps in again to complain that Robik is using video logic in a forum game, but really he's just using meta. Moose does have a point that you can't be expected to talk over each other all the time like you can in video, but it's still a pretty weird sequence that goes:
Robik: joke
Moose: defend self
Robik: attack
mirks: defend moose, attack Robik
Moose: defend self
and all of it seems out of place
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and I said this in a much sorter way two days ago
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On March 06 2014 06:42 mirks wrote:
Moose seems his usual self from what I can translate from video to text, and something is very off with robik. I'll have to verify with his past games if he normally plays this aggro.
Defending Moose again.
What's annoying is I know Moose is mafia so I'm going to draw conclusions based on that obviously, but Tambo of course you can't see that.
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On March 06 2014 09:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Did you even read the thread Tambo? It was Moose who changed her mind...not me.
by the way Tambo, it's not that hard to mix up the names in a game, see above
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On March 07 2014 01:12 Moose_ wrote:
So my biggest issue with, "just waiting on people to reply" and never worrying about them is currently there is 2 people who have yet to post, if we probe each other all day here and start scum hunting within us eventually one will turn scum. What if the 2 people who have yet to post are the scum so we wasted all this time reading each other to get false reads. So although i am so for only reading the people posting unless they get replaced soon i am okay lynching them.
the bold part is basically just begging to mislynch either pretzel or me without having to look bad for doing it, and it's worse because like 5 posts earlier thor was pointing out that we'd just be replaced or modkilled anyway
also I can't speak for pretzel but I'm used to much, much faster games and I'm enjoying not having to refresh this all day, there was never any risk of me not posting (I mean I confirmed)
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On March 07 2014 17:26 mirks wrote:
I don't understand how sqrt comes to the conclusion that because I vote someone and give a reason for it that I am subtly trying to make town think shes mafia. Thats pretty overt imo, its also the same thing that sqrt is doing to me so I find it very strange that he would bring it up as logic against ME.
I don't really know what to draw from the interaction though. Maybe I'm wrong on cruisette and he KNOWS that?
mirks complaining about picking up heat from sqrt is hard to stomach since it's not like sqrt was actually overt. It was about as bold as it gets:
On March 07 2014 09:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Okay, let's take a look at Cruisette. First post, she makes a post that makes no sense. This was due to an error where she skipped a page, and she said so herself. Then she says she thinks moose is a townie. Then she says she thinks moose is a mafia. Very wishy washy, but if there's someone who I would believe has flippy reads, it'd be the person who skipped a page. I read soft town. What about Tamburni? Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 09:09 mtamburini wrote:On March 06 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them. this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good. honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me? When I first read IAmRobik and Moose interactions, I was ready to lynch both of them cause I thought there would one between them for sure just based on the fact of them attacking each other. However that view changed once sqrt posted that their opinion on the matter was it was two towns fighting. I'd like an explanation on it as maybe you see something I dont. I am more inclined to sheep Roberts read on the situation and it sounds a little too good. He was ready to lynch both Robik and Moose, but reconsiders after I say something. I'm willing to bet that if I didn't say that, he'd be perfectly fine to lynch both of them. Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 01:55 mtamburini wrote:
My biggest problem right now is people wanting to lynch the players who have not talked yet, I think that is pretty scummy because they can be replaced and/or mod killed so if they are scum not participating thats great they will be modkilled and we will win that much easier. I feel like the people who are willing to lynch them are just picking on someone who cannot defend themselves making it seem like its a safe lynch.
With regards to Thorgear post it I feel like after 3 pages of posts they would have a lot more to give to us.
My question for Thorgear, you think sqrt is town for the questions hes asking. What do you think of his reads?
Inb4 robert post
inb4 Moose post
Doesn't want to lynch the players who haven't talked yet because they could be modkilled/replaced. Says he feels like the people who want to lynch them are just picking on people who can't defend themselves, which is possible. But I have a feeling he doesn't want them to be lynched because one of the people who are inactive are his affiliation. I read soft mafia. Moose simply seems like town. One thing that catches my eye is that he said he's gonna play a bit differently than in video mafia. Which shows that he thought how video mafia transfers to forum mafia. This could mean he's mafia, but pretty much everything else says otherwise. I read soft town. Robik seems like an experienced player. Mirks say that something's fishy about him, but if he's the experienced player he is, I wouldn't expect him to make a mistake like that. I read soft town. Mirks seems active, but most of his posts are short, and some of them seem like he's trying to make others lynch someone. For example: Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 07:22 mirks wrote:On March 07 2014 07:07 Cruisette wrote:On March 07 2014 06:31 mirks wrote:
##Vote: Cruisette
Cruisette you are gonna have to enlighten me as to why your read on moose flipped back to mafia.
It's the way the Moose works. He's very gung-ho on lynching the AFK. He's fighting with town and causing a ruckus. Would you want to side with him or a more sane thoughtful town, Mirks? You already sided with him, for the first half of your reason why he is now mafia. I don't get how his fight with robert now makes him scum in your eyes when you used that fight to call him your top town? He's subtly trying to make us think that cruisette is mafia. I read mafia. ##Unvote##Vote mirksSorry mirks. I wanted to be friends.
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Oh I totally forgot about my read on sqrt because of the tinfoiling about people who know each other's video games eliminating each other because they'll have tells on the forum, if you want proof I'm town just look at that sick read yo again.
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first game I've ever played where the voting literally doesn't matter
four of us are the four people who voted Cruisette, and no one else every got lynched
mirks voted sqrt, relatively obvious villager
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On March 10 2014 08:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think it probably is mirks, moose.
But it could be some other combination, like hoya you, or hoya thor, or you thor, but I think that if mirks is one of them, moose is the other. But it could be moose + someone other than mirks.
One possible explanation for sqrt getting nk'd
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On March 10 2014 08:45 CPHoya wrote:
Oh, I want to clear tambo because his posts make it clear he's trying to puzzle out the game and I feel I can understand his reads. Also he's taking the time to make long posts of his own accord instead of after being prodded. Also he popped in from work lunch with thoughts he was probably mulling over during work, which suggests he's probably just trying to solve a puzzle and wants to be heard. That's town to me.
On March 10 2014 08:49 CPHoya wrote:
And you is kind of just a tone read but whatever, you're similar to him and I think I can roll with that today.
On March 10 2014 08:50 CPHoya wrote:
Also mirks tried to lynch you on some shit I still do not understand and that he hasn't explained to me even though I've been asking.
And if I really have to defend myself here's me explaining my apparently correct read on you and correct read on sqrt (there was a long explanation about sqrt earlier as well, including the no one makes up that tinfoiling argument).
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On March 12 2014 11:19 mirks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 20:53 Moose_ wrote:On March 07 2014 14:38 Thorgear wrote:
after going over everyone's reads, pretty much everyone has moose as town. i would like to hear what his reads are.
My biggest reads right now are that i really like sqrt and Thor you have really grown on me today. MY biggest issue with sqrt is he came out and gave a bunch of scum reads that seemed off from his own circles not sure how he can call all of tambo, mirksm cruise and some who has yet to post maf. I am sure he is just trying to make circles but i would like more clarification with this. This is the only time moose has mentioned thorgear the whole game. "Thor you have really grown on me" and then he provides absolutely no reason for that and proceeds to ignore him for the rest of his game. Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 01:42 CPHoya wrote:
Thor, do you remember what you were trying to say when you said "the last mafia"?
Also you have it wrong, my strongest mafia reads are mirks and Moose, not you. Not sure where you're getting that. This is the only time hoya has mentioned thor, by accidently saying thor when he was speaking to moose.So I can see either one being with thor.....
Bold is not true, I mentioned thor two or three times on day 1, calling him town for making reads I could get down with. I'll quote the posts in a moment.
This kind of thing bugs me because I have to fix it when something that isn't true ends up in the thread.
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On March 12 2014 11:19 Moose_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 05:08 CPHoya wrote:
No, as you can see I assumed "night" would fall at real-life night and planned to just interact all day while I worked. You should expect me to participate normally from now on, which means you'll get plenty of me until I'm dead. Was this a fake claim.
no, what?
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On March 12 2014 13:04 Thorgear wrote:
if tambo is cop it doesnt matter who i push cause he has a red check on one of them and will reveal that before he dies in the night. so in that world you wouldnt have to read on who i am pushing..
I'm sort of compelled to believe that Thor has to be town if he doesn't even understand how Ace works.
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On March 13 2014 16:12 Moose_ wrote:
So today hoya has said nothing except that he is town lynch moose. He brought up the cop thing which i already stated earler.
He also avoided all my points against him that i had i think the lynch is quite obvious here guys lynch hoya than tomorrow we figure out this game in final 3.
I know this post is a lie in the first place but this part, from YOUR perspectives, isn't even true: I just re-read the entire thread, quoting important things as I went, and this never even happened.
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The 1-1-1-1 voting is "bad" technically speaking but in reality it still leaves Tambo to hammer whoever he wants, I guess that's functionally the same as 2-2 between me and Moose.
Scares me that someone is just going to switch right at the end of the day.
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Anyway I'm pretty locked in to mirks being the other one, he and Moose have now both just openly lied about my posts (never mentioned thor, Moose alleging he made some case against me) and Thor seems genuinely mixed up about Ace, so if Tambo isn't mafia I feel strong about tomorrow.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Spam Warning
This is a Spam Warning for CPHoya.
Warning: Instead of making a series of posts, take your time and make one longer post. When you are alone in the thread, you should not be making more than one post per hour. If you really need to add one more thing before you leave or do an EBWOP, that's fine, but the current level of solo spam is not acceptable.
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Vote Count
Thorgear (1) - mirks
CPHoya (1) - Moose_
Moose_ (1) - CPHoya
mirks (1) - Thorgear
Not Voting (1) - mtamburini
Currently Thorgear is set to lynched.
Day ends at Thursday, Mar 13 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
As a gentle reminder to nobody in particular, mtamburini, voting is mandatory.
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Thor you pretty much have to move your vote if Tambo doesn't show up. . .
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On March 14 2014 03:40 CPHoya wrote:
Thor you pretty much have to move your vote if Tambo doesn't show up. . .
You could move yours to Rick if you think he is town?
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I was going to if no one showed up, but that's pretty lame since Moose is a lock.
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So now we just sit here hoping that thor and mirks don't vote me at the last second?
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Vote thorgear if you want another day,
I still say that most likely situation is that Thor thinking the cop had a distinct check on mafia caused him to bus moose.
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Then we get another day anyway.
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
End Game
The Puddle Jumper finally dropped out of warp, its distortion drives disabled, the ship itself stopped in the gap between stars. Controlled by the Criminals, it will fetch a fine ransom. Rick "Ace" Lewis slumped over in despair, the bodies of his fellow passengers around him.
They had failed.
Moose_ the Voyager has been lynched!
The Criminals have won!
CPHoya the Thug is victorious!
mirks the Thug is vicotrious!
mtamburini as Rick "Ace" Lewis has been endgamed!
Thorgear the Voyager has been endgamed!
Obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/qttjeFKDTsQr
Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/GgpgRVXKcZQc
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
Feel free to post coaching QTs. Good game, everyone.
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sorry about spam, didn't realize that was a thing
it's really hard to play well as town when there's so little posting, there's just nothing to work with
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Hoya...what's the deal with your d1?
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I honestly thought day would end at like 6:00 PM PST or something and planned to play all day and woke up to realize I was wrong about that
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YES!!!!!!
Thanks for the carry hoya!
Sorry that I didn't participate as much as i planned too regardless of alignment, I thought I wouldn't be nervous on forums but it turns out I'm just as bad at lying in text as I am on video.
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trying to misrepresent me...PSHHH. Get outta here rick.
tambo, please don't blame the modkill on the loss. You didn't read the thread
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On March 13 2014 21:10 mirks wrote:
Sorry I've been gone, slept and then got called to work for 10hours.
The lynch today is still thorgear, hoya comes in at a distant second because I don't think he would bus his partner in lylo.
Tamburini, I AM TOWN, PLEASE LYNCH THOR KKTHX
did you even read the bolded tambo? What type of town mindset is that? If you heard that in video you'd have shit on him instantly.
Edit: That's the biggest slip of all time and I'm not sure how you missed it.
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so i totally forgot about this today took my family to the airport and when i returned i completely forgot about this sorry guys. Also i wish this game was full of only newer players who have not played before.
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That's not a slip just poorly words , I dont think he (thorgear), would bus his partner (Moose) in lylo.
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it sounds like you're saying hoya wouldn't bus his partner -- which would mean that hoya is maf
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On March 14 2014 04:03 mtamburini wrote:
that mod kill hurt town
Yeah, it really did. I have to modkill the non-voters, though, at least in this kind of setup.
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The only chance was to lynch hoya correctly, then have moose make the decision, cause he could have decided that rick is scummier than Thor. Otherwise, if Thor was the clear town in F3, he votes Moose over Hoya all day
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On March 14 2014 04:06 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2014 21:10 mirks wrote:
Sorry I've been gone, slept and then got called to work for 10hours.
The lynch today is still thorgear, hoya comes in at a distant second because I don't think he would bus his partner in lylo.
Tamburini, I AM TOWN, PLEASE LYNCH THOR KKTHX did you even read the bolded tambo? What type of town mindset is that? If you heard that in video you'd have shit on him instantly. Edit: That's the biggest slip of all time and I'm not sure how you missed it.
I was more confident that Moose or Hoya would kill Rick final 3 than I was with Thor picking correctly final 3. IMO Rick gave himself up so i decided to make the harder decision today rather than tomorrow.
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Thanks to Blazinghand and Balla for hosting, also to the lunatic that is my scumcoach, alakaslam.
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Robik I don't follow your argument about me not bussing at lylo, I was bussing at lylo.
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HOYA,
Someone in QT called you out for doing EXACTLY what you did in the video mafia game "My reads are so fucking good"
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On March 14 2014 04:15 CPHoya wrote:
Robik I don't follow your argument about me not bussing at lylo, I was bussing at lylo.
The way it sounds makes it sound like Rick knows who mafia is.
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wow.
Pretty low amount of posts in this game.
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The reason that comes out frequently is as town they usually are so I say it as town all the time anyway (it's meaningless, not a tell).
Also just generally speaking (I'm borrowing the phrasing of the following), being right is the currency of mafia. You're more believable if your thoughts are reliable and understandable. That means people trust you. If I have your trust and I'm mafia, I win the game (most of the time).
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On March 14 2014 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wow.
Pretty low amount of posts in this game.
That's because they killed me n1 Rayn! Those scumbags!
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[21:12] <Toad|> I'm not even sure who's mafia myself
[21:13] <Toad|> I'd insta-lynch this CPHoya guy any second in other games [as in, if this was a normal game]
[21:13] <Blazinghand|Wor> yeah there's not much to work with
[21:13] <Blazinghand|Wor> thanks for your great effort though
[21:13] <Toad|> but with other people not playing it might actually just be that he doesn't want to play and is stupid because doesn't feel like thinking
I did end up saying that all 4 of you look scummy though and there's plenty of reasoning for lynching anyone out of you, which is realy sad because all you needed is a single town OR mafia read to win this game...
That votecount where everyone voted someone else in lylo is just really the saddest thing I've ever seen in a game of mafia.
Of course everyone has a confirmed mafia thanks to the parity cop and of course you want that guy lynched but getting in the thread and basicly telling people "duh I'm town, so he has to be mafia. That's it, lynch him" isn't helping anyone, you need to convince people and do something about it. It's been like that for everyone and you guys completly lacked the ability to realize that. It's been lylo and everyone voted someone else which usually means that mafia wins because all they need is a single townie having his vote on someone else, because you need 3 votes on the same guy. Luckily for town mafia didn't realize that and was fine with the situation which meant that Mr. parity cop could decide the game himself because mafia wouldn't have been able to get a bigger majority, which at least meant a 50% chance to get a right lynch for town instead of a 0% chance of a mafia lynch had mafia just made the votes earlier.
No idea why mafia didn't just finish the game right there but they apparently decided it's funny to give you a 50/50 chance instead of just hammering someone. Really weird game
On March 14 2014 04:12 mtamburini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:06 IAmRobik wrote:On March 13 2014 21:10 mirks wrote:
Sorry I've been gone, slept and then got called to work for 10hours.
The lynch today is still thorgear, hoya comes in at a distant second because I don't think he would bus his partner in lylo.
Tamburini, I AM TOWN, PLEASE LYNCH THOR KKTHX did you even read the bolded tambo? What type of town mindset is that? If you heard that in video you'd have shit on him instantly. Edit: That's the biggest slip of all time and I'm not sure how you missed it. I was more confident that Moose or Hoya would kill Rick final 3 than I was with Thor picking correctly final 3. IMO Rick gave himself up so i decided to make the harder decision today rather than tomorrow.
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day and approach this game on step by step basis. There's really no other way to play consecutive lylos. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make.
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On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make.
I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3
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On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3
This is just untrue, there's soooo much time during the night and the next day for the last 4 to convince him and say good stuff.
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On March 14 2014 04:31 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 This is just untrue, there's soooo much time during the night and the next day for the last 4 to convince him and say good stuff.
exactly. On top of that even if it was that black and white, even the most tunnelish guy in the world would at some point come to a halt for a second and at least think about "hey wait a second... I have him down as 100% certain mafia... and we're both alive in lylo... if he's really mafia why am I alive together with him?"
There would have and should have been ways to talk to him.
Sure that's wifom but in the end simple explanations usually end up being true and mafia making lylo hard for themselves just to push some wifom strategy sounds really sketchy. At the very least he would have reconsidered.
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On March 14 2014 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:31 Balla24 wrote:On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 This is just untrue, there's soooo much time during the night and the next day for the last 4 to convince him and say good stuff. exactly. On top of that even if it was that black and white, even the most tunnelish guy in the world would at some point come to a halt for a second and at least think about "hey wait a second... I have him down as 100% certain mafia... and we're both alive in lylo... if he's really mafia why am I alive together with him?"There would have and should have been ways to talk to him. Sure that's wifom but in the end simple explanations usually end up being true and mafia making lylo hard for themselves just to push some wifom strategy sounds really sketchy. At the very least he would have reconsidered.
This is an invalid argument, as the kill was 100% clear to be tambo.
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That's still not the main point though.
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On March 14 2014 04:38 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:On March 14 2014 04:31 Balla24 wrote:On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 This is just untrue, there's soooo much time during the night and the next day for the last 4 to convince him and say good stuff. exactly. On top of that even if it was that black and white, even the most tunnelish guy in the world would at some point come to a halt for a second and at least think about "hey wait a second... I have him down as 100% certain mafia... and we're both alive in lylo... if he's really mafia why am I alive together with him?"There would have and should have been ways to talk to him. Sure that's wifom but in the end simple explanations usually end up being true and mafia making lylo hard for themselves just to push some wifom strategy sounds really sketchy. At the very least he would have reconsidered. This is an invalid argument, as the kill was 100% clear to be tambo.
no it wasn't. There would have been 2 confirmed townies after a mafia lynch. Mafia would have had to choose and there's no reason to let a tunnelish guy into lylo who's basicly mod-confirmed town at that point as mafia.
Actually I guess since no RB... both really crappy situations for mafia no idea which one would have been worse.
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On March 14 2014 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:38 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:On March 14 2014 04:31 Balla24 wrote:On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 This is just untrue, there's soooo much time during the night and the next day for the last 4 to convince him and say good stuff. exactly. On top of that even if it was that black and white, even the most tunnelish guy in the world would at some point come to a halt for a second and at least think about "hey wait a second... I have him down as 100% certain mafia... and we're both alive in lylo... if he's really mafia why am I alive together with him?"There would have and should have been ways to talk to him. Sure that's wifom but in the end simple explanations usually end up being true and mafia making lylo hard for themselves just to push some wifom strategy sounds really sketchy. At the very least he would have reconsidered. This is an invalid argument, as the kill was 100% clear to be tambo. no it wasn't. There would have been 2 confirmed townies after a mafia lynch. Mafia would have had to choose and there's no reason to let a tunnelish guy into lylo who's basicly mod-confirmed town at that point as mafia.
Yeah it was, you let tambo live and mafia loses 100%. He gets another check on alive and its over.
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but the check would have been "CPHoya is different than the other guy in lylo". That's a nulltell. He's parity cop and not DT and CPHoya was the one he checked on d2. As long as CPHoya doesn't get lynched or shot (which is really unlikely considering that he was mafia) his check will be a null with CPHoya still being alive in lylo.
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oh right CPHoya was the last check this is true
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On March 14 2014 04:49 Toadesstern wrote:
but the check would have been "CPHoya is different than the other guy in lylo". That's a nulltell. He's parity cop and not DT and CPHoya was the one he checked on d2. As long as CPHoya doesn't get lynched or shot (which is really unlikely considering that he was mafia) his check will be a null with CPHoya still being alive in lylo.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. would have 2 people of the same alignment. and 1 different.
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On March 14 2014 04:52 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:49 Toadesstern wrote:
but the check would have been "CPHoya is different than the other guy in lylo". That's a nulltell. He's parity cop and not DT and CPHoya was the one he checked on d2. As long as CPHoya doesn't get lynched or shot (which is really unlikely considering that he was mafia) his check will be a null with CPHoya still being alive in lylo. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. would have 2 people of the same alignment. and 1 different.
Oh right I forgot night actions happen at the same time, could have targeted the confirmed townie and figured it out that way. Thought he only has 2 people to choose from and already had the confirmed townie as dead, which is true but he'd still get the check result.
Well in that case yeah you're right, he would have had to be shot.
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The underlying logic is still stupid though 
On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3
You either think Moose is mafia or you think he's not.
If you think he is mafia than the other guy is a townie tunneling him on lylo. No problem to be found so it shouldn't be part of any reasoning for voting someone.
If you think he is town you shouldn't have voted the guy
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On March 14 2014 05:04 Toadesstern wrote:The underlying logic is still stupid though Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 You either think Moose is mafia or you think he's not. If you think he is mafia than the other guy is a townie tunneling him on lylo. No problem to be found so it shouldn't be part of any reasoning for voting someone. If you think he is town you shouldn't have voted the guy
Nah, because if you can figure out that CPHoya is mafia in f5, then moose is the confirmed town in f3 and he could make the right choice. The way it was looking, if you lynch rick, then Thor is the confirmed town and he was 100% going to vote for Moose. So like. You have a Moose that you know is going to lynch the more scummy person, or Thor who is 100% going to vote for moose. I guess it comes down to if you'd rather trust your reads on moose/hoya, or just kill rick and moose.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
You guys so silly. Mafia won because they spread doubt and it's a newbie game with people playing their first game and you're all being aggro dicks.
Town: Need to talk A LOT more. Mafia win when no conversation happens because they can hide in the shadows. The more conversation and questions you ask people the more likely they are to slip up. There shouldn't ever be nothing to talk about because you can always make new things to talk about. If it is lylo (lynch or lose) then you absolutely have to talk and consolidate, which tambo was trying to do (was good) so that mafia can't just hop over to straggler town votes. Moral of this game talk talk talk!
Mafia: was easy to sit in the shadows for you guys, in this game specifically pushing for a no lynch so early into day 2 would set up red flags for most non newbie players because it instantly stifles conversation. Also talking about why someone is really townie based on not so townie posts is also a red flag :p your goal is to spread suspicion which you did do quite well and the moment hoya didn't die over sqrt should have set alarm bells onto most players as hoya was doing a lot more scum hunting and searching than sqrt either way you played well for a start to this forum
Gg's
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On March 14 2014 05:26 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 05:04 Toadesstern wrote:The underlying logic is still stupid though On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 You either think Moose is mafia or you think he's not. If you think he is mafia than the other guy is a townie tunneling him on lylo. No problem to be found so it shouldn't be part of any reasoning for voting someone. If you think he is town you shouldn't have voted the guy Nah, because if you can figure out that CPHoya is mafia in f5, then moose is the confirmed town in f3 and he could make the right choice. The way it was looking, if you lynch rick, then Thor is the confirmed town and he was 100% going to vote for Moose. So like. You have a Moose that you know is going to lynch the more scummy person, or Thor who is 100% going to vote for moose. I guess it comes down to if you'd rather trust your reads on moose/hoya, or just kill rick and moose.
It's beside the point though.
That only is an issue if you think CPHoya is town. If you're sure Moose is mafia than there's no problem whatsoever with letting a tunneling guy into lylo.
He ended up voting Moose because he was scared another guy might end up voting moose later on.
I'm sure that's not his reasoning, but that's the reasoning he's given comes down to.
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On March 14 2014 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
You guys so silly. Mafia won because they spread doubt and it's a newbie game with people playing their first game and you're all being aggro dicks.
Town: Need to talk A LOT more. Mafia win when no conversation happens because they can hide in the shadows. The more conversation and questions you ask people the more likely they are to slip up. There shouldn't ever be nothing to talk about because you can always make new things to talk about. If it is lylo (lynch or lose) then you absolutely have to talk and consolidate, which tambo was trying to do (was good) so that mafia can't just hop over to straggler town votes. Moral of this game talk talk talk!
Mafia: was easy to sit in the shadows for you guys, in this game specifically pushing for a no lynch so early into day 2 would set up red flags for most non newbie players because it instantly stifles conversation. Also talking about why someone is really townie based on not so townie posts is also a red flag :p your goal is to spread suspicion which you did do quite well and the moment hoya didn't die over sqrt should have set alarm bells onto most players as hoya was doing a lot more scum hunting and searching than sqrt either way you played well for a start to this forum
Gg's
Just come out and say it: Mafia won cause they killed me n1.
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
Well you were talking and nobody else really stepped up as much so yes :p
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So everyone make sure you always kill Robik n1
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
clearly if Robik is ever alive D2 he is scum
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On March 14 2014 05:45 Blazinghand wrote:
clearly if Robik is ever alive D2 he is scum
Oh cmon...Give me 1 more day. If i'm alive d3 of any game, just insta-lynch me cause I'm obviously scum (or I'm wrong and deserve to get lynched....but no really, i'm always scum)
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
All my town filters are longer than this game, jeez
i liked mirks' play of going for thorgear because by definition thorgear was mafia. that was pretty clever.
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On March 14 2014 05:48 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 05:45 Blazinghand wrote:
clearly if Robik is ever alive D2 he is scum Oh cmon...Give me 1 more day. If i'm alive d3 of any game, just insta-lynch me cause I'm obviously scum (or I'm wrong and deserve to get lynched....but no really, i'm always scum)
get back in your place.
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I think mafia played this really well, they really did the bare minimum pro-town actions necessary in this low-activity thread to easily squeak by with this and that's pretty awesome.
If you let mafia lurk, they'll lurk guys!!
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On March 14 2014 05:26 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 05:04 Toadesstern wrote:The underlying logic is still stupid though On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 You either think Moose is mafia or you think he's not. If you think he is mafia than the other guy is a townie tunneling him on lylo. No problem to be found so it shouldn't be part of any reasoning for voting someone. If you think he is town you shouldn't have voted the guy Nah, because if you can figure out that CPHoya is mafia in f5, then moose is the confirmed town in f3 and he could make the right choice. The way it was looking, if you lynch rick, then Thor is the confirmed town and he was 100% going to vote for Moose. So like. You have a Moose that you know is going to lynch the more scummy person, or Thor who is 100% going to vote for moose. I guess it comes down to if you'd rather trust your reads on moose/hoya, or just kill rick and moose.
this is largely incorrect
lylo has its own laws. In my newbie game I was alive in 2-1 lylo with another townie who thought i was mafia all game and the mafia was townie all game. but he made the right choice in the end because everyone can change their opinions. even newbies in their first game.
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On March 14 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 05:26 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 05:04 Toadesstern wrote:The underlying logic is still stupid though On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 You either think Moose is mafia or you think he's not. If you think he is mafia than the other guy is a townie tunneling him on lylo. No problem to be found so it shouldn't be part of any reasoning for voting someone. If you think he is town you shouldn't have voted the guy Nah, because if you can figure out that CPHoya is mafia in f5, then moose is the confirmed town in f3 and he could make the right choice. The way it was looking, if you lynch rick, then Thor is the confirmed town and he was 100% going to vote for Moose. So like. You have a Moose that you know is going to lynch the more scummy person, or Thor who is 100% going to vote for moose. I guess it comes down to if you'd rather trust your reads on moose/hoya, or just kill rick and moose. this is largely incorrect lylo has its own laws. In my newbie game I was alive in 2-1 lylo with another townie who thought i was mafia all game and the mafia was townie all game. but he made the right choice in the end because everyone can change their opinions. even newbies in their first game.
@Robik I actually agreed with you but after thinking a bit I do think marvellosity is right. In Newbie LII I went into LYLO feeling pretty sure the other town (Valenius) was mafia (enough that I even told him he should move his vote to theDragoon, but I would probably still vote for him, lol) and he came in feeling I was mafia. Against all odds talking through things and reviewing things in the last day it somehow it still worked out despite our reads and that of the nightkill Lord Tolkien. I guess I'm just saying LYLO seems really unpredictable to me.
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it really pays to analyse the whole game in a broad sense at lylo, including night kills.
if you're a townie coming into a 2-1 lylo thinking some dude is mafia and you should lynch him, then at the very least you should immediately heavily doubt your read and totally reassess it.
of course that dude may be mafia in the end, but probably more often than not some scummy townie has been left alive till lylo for the mafia to lynch, and the mafia probably looks quite decent by virtue of the fact that he hasn't been lynched yet.
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On March 14 2014 07:38 marvellosity wrote:
All my town filters are longer than this game, jeez
i liked mirks' play of going for thorgear because by definition thorgear was mafia. that was pretty clever.
Oh yeah. That was so good!
Probably the towniest line of thinking in the game. 
E: mirks is Rick right?
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GG guys, had fun
that game was too hard for me, everyone was alot more experienced than i am.
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On March 14 2014 07:58 Amiko wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 07:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2014 05:26 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 05:04 Toadesstern wrote:The underlying logic is still stupid though On March 14 2014 04:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 14 2014 04:19 Toadesstern wrote:
I also highly disagree with this sentiment. In lylo you always go for best play for this specific day. You get more information on every day and the harder plays will get easier eventually, just make sure to lynch mafia the day it matters the most and that's not some distinct future lynch about some what-if-we-lynch-that-guy but the lynch right now if it's lylo.
I get that it must have been frustrating to play though and I can see why someone would just want this game to end rather early than late despite it being the wrong decision to make. I would usually agree with this, but not in this case. Not in this game. There was no way Thor was voting for anyone but Moose at f3 You either think Moose is mafia or you think he's not. If you think he is mafia than the other guy is a townie tunneling him on lylo. No problem to be found so it shouldn't be part of any reasoning for voting someone. If you think he is town you shouldn't have voted the guy Nah, because if you can figure out that CPHoya is mafia in f5, then moose is the confirmed town in f3 and he could make the right choice. The way it was looking, if you lynch rick, then Thor is the confirmed town and he was 100% going to vote for Moose. So like. You have a Moose that you know is going to lynch the more scummy person, or Thor who is 100% going to vote for moose. I guess it comes down to if you'd rather trust your reads on moose/hoya, or just kill rick and moose. this is largely incorrect lylo has its own laws. In my newbie game I was alive in 2-1 lylo with another townie who thought i was mafia all game and the mafia was townie all game. but he made the right choice in the end because everyone can change their opinions. even newbies in their first game. @Robik I actually agreed with you but after thinking a bit I do think marvellosity is right. In Newbie LII I went into LYLO feeling pretty sure the other town (Valenius) was mafia (enough that I even told him he should move his vote to theDragoon, but I would probably still vote for him, lol) and he came in feeling I was mafia. Against all odds talking through things and reviewing things in the last day it somehow it still worked out despite our reads and that of the nightkill Lord Tolkien. I guess I'm just saying LYLO seems really unpredictable to me.
THERE WAS SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY ANALYZE IN THAT GAME! This game was basically not a game and just like 100 separate posts, of which, even after being dead for 2 days, I still had the longest or 2nd longest filter
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Rick's play was 100% correct. His wording and explanation was terribad though. If I were in his place, we would have 100% lynched Thor there.
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