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On November 18 2013 01:14 OOHCHILD wrote:
yes its to you Ah, alright. I'm not trying to tunnel you. You weren't super mega active D1, so I want to do two things. I want to get you posting more, so that I can read that and get a better read on you. I want to get you posting more, so that YOU can post more and have more of an impact on this game.
Best case scenario, you answer the salsa question, and one or two players really catch your eye. By answering about salsa, you're not just hunting for scum or having townreads, you're identifying specific characteristics that x player has exhibited. Maybe that characteristic triggers something in your brain, you find it really townie, or really scummy, or you think it says something else, or whatever. It's a way to approach things from a different angle, maybe jumpstart some other thought process helpful to solving the game/having a happy town game.
I get to read that, others get to read that, and have a better read on you.
More activity, an odd look at the game from you, responses from me probably, it's all good for the game. Despite it being a dumb question, I think it's helpful to both of us.
Heck, worst case scenario, you can answer however you want and be trolly. But that still gets a post or a couple out of you, even if they're pure troll.
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On November 18 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 01:12 austinmcc wrote:On November 18 2013 01:09 Spaghetticus wrote:
When does Blazing hand usually start playing? I'm interested in his take once he finishes with his survival scheme. Generally earlier than this. He's usually got some posts, and some decent posts, on D1 in the games that I have played with him. I don't find it particularly telling about his alignment, except for a nagging thought that maybe it's an indicator of assassinyness. That's an outside shot though, and I don't expect him or others to play assassiny, whatever that actually means (in my head, playing to avoid getting killed by any faction by normal means, sometimes town BH looks very town and gets shot N1, and assassinBH wouldn't really want that although he could say he was protected or whatever). Ugh what's this? Why wouldn't assasins play like town? Like if they get shot during the night just not claim you were shot? Are scum gonna claim they did shoot you or what? Yes. It's happened a couple times iirc, scum shoots someone who doesn't die, tells urrbody about it. Scum can claim to have been a vigi in a game where the assassins are neutral, or there have been games where scum is mostly screwed and a guy who is outed outs a 3P who can be harmful to town, trying to buy an extra cycle for scum to stay alive and hoping town goes after the 3P. That's not the case here, but there have been enough funky scum/3P interactions that it's a possible consideration.
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On November 18 2013 01:17 Spaghetticus wrote:
For context, could you quicklist your three biggest scumreads? Who do you consider confirmed town?
I don't find any one post particularly scumtelling. Probably the biggest swing in my perception was when Storrzerg claimed noob. I haven't followed him up since, figuring his input has been fairly limited and if someone prompts me it won't take long to be up to date. Cheese scummy. rayn could be, do like koshi's points, although I'm not finding rayn as scummy this game as I normally do (found him scummy in two other games in which he was town).
Currently quite townie on risen, koshi. Neither has posted a particular thing that makes me super duper duper duper mega convinced they're town yet, though.
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On November 18 2013 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi'scase against me is "he didn't talk to me". That's dumb.
Now when i talk to him do doesn't talk back. He also pokes at how your read on him changes, your scumreads in general, and possibly more. But those two have been mentioned, off the top of my head.
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It's not just lack of posts or detachment. Follow the timeline of Cheesecake's posting:
FIRST SET
Cheese is on for 40ish minutes and pokes minorly at skan, asks that question of BC. You have a 40 minute period where he's following the thread, but barely interacting at all, and never in a meaningful Way to contribute anything. + Show Spoiler +On novemBer 16 2013 01:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hello good sirs, WhO may I ask is scum this game? 'Tis TRUE a few townreads are to be had; but scum be elusive, so sad! On novemBer 16 2013 01:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On novemBer 16 2013 01:21 Skanjab1s wrote:On novemBer 16 2013 01:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hello good sirs, WhO may I ask is scum this game? 'Tis TRUE a few townreads are to be had; but scum be elusive, so sad! Combine all townreads, eliminate the remainder, yes! Ahh, but sir, you are not yet amongst the townreads of Cornelius Cheesecake! Please do remedy thy status, or by virtue of good deed, elect me mayor. For then shall we see scum hanged by the neck. On novemBer 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?
Also what do you think of Skan? On novemBer 16 2013 01:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I support BC, our fearless leader.
SECOND SET
5 hours later, Cheese is around for just 10ish minutes, from 6:12 to 6:23. He starts off with a trolly post about supersoft, indicating he's reading the thread right then (Super's post was 5 minutes old)On novemBer 16 2013 06:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On novemBer 16 2013 06:07 supersoft wrote:
i suggest you reread the thread, convince yourself that I am town; and then you come back and we play as a team. Posts like this make me think Supersoft knows VE's alignment.
But he then references VE's lynch choices and yamato's BC read. On novemBer 16 2013 06:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I am very pleased with VEs choices of lynches. I can wholeheartedly support him in his endeavors. Why is BC abhorrent yamato, i dont mind him. Yamato had just put his BC read in thread, while VE's lynch choices are 30-40 minutes oldOn novemBer 16 2013 05:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Random Musings: The Bus-Ride to Work
STUFF
Grackaroni, StorrZerg, Sharrant, and Skanjab1s
SOME MORE STUFF This means (1) cheesecake Has been reading the thread, or caught himself up (he wasn't actively posting back when VE wrote that, yet he knows VE's choices); but (2) Cheese continues to have little/no Impact on thread, and not comment on anything else really.
THIRD SET
Cheese around 18ish minutes, 8:13-8:31. + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2013 08:13 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Lynch bait is a dude who is typically bad or lurks, often gets mislynched. Like stutters or sylencia, most newbs in larger games. On November 16 2013 08:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:VE/BC wombo combo for elections?  On November 16 2013 08:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I am but a plebian at your heels. On November 16 2013 08:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I have done nothing but say i like things why am i not suspicious?
LAST POSTOn November 16 2013 15:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I think Onegu might be svengali scum. Look at his post on HF, reeks of "I see you think HF is scum, allow me to poop on him some more" he also keeps mentioning that hes reading and hes here to be awesome amd do things, instead of posting relevant stuff.
love,
The Cheesecake
Onegu's post on HF, what I believe CC is referring to, is here - + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2013 02:12 Onegu wrote:Also rayn I dont like how HF doesnt give many hard raeds on his own, but asks people for thier thoughts on them. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note. Here he makes a very small point on hopelesses first post. And that his contributions are useless. Then he tells Mattchew he should look into hopeless because he has played with him in Hogwarts Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:54 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 12:54 Mattchew wrote:
VE who shoudl i look at? Hopeless. You played with him in hogwarts. What is your take on him this game? He doesnt add anything. At this point Hopeless filter is very short and no where near a hot button topic so why have mattchew take a closer look at him. Then out of no where comes HF asking the thread about mattchew when HF hasnt talked about mattchew yet. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:Can someone give me their take on mattchew please? I'm having a hard time untangling his posts. Like.... it's all crap, he even asked on who he should look into and didn't end up doing that but also posts something like: On November 15 2013 12:47 Mattchew wrote:
Yam and mocsta are town but i dont agree with Mocsta's case on Storr. I saw his conclusion, read storrs filter for myself, then read his case, and reconsidered but was not swayed into putting storr anywhere but neutral. Storr is going to play different, because he comes from a different type of mafia. Mocsta sometimes equivocates different to scum . Mattchew, what is your take on hopeless and rayn? I know you've now played with both because of hogwarts so what is your view on them at this present time? ________________________________________________________ For everyone else, much like grack, mattchew came out of the woodwork to post a point relating to mocsta/storr and apart from that has really added nothing. His other "content" is just calling people town etc. He makes the effort to "read" the filter of one player but has no evidence of that for any other player, despite many being mentioned in the game. Would you be comfortable lynching this way, because I would. Then again he asks Mattchew for his thoughts on hopeless which he only talked about one time, and rayn. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price? You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge I troll no further albeit tempting Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked. He hasnt added anything to the discussion but continues to just ask peoples opinion. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 14:20 Holyflare wrote:
What does scum matt look like then? Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 15:00 Holyflare wrote:
Either way, he isn't here and I've linked all that needs to be linked. What do you think of rayn so far. I know you had some back and forths last game. Has your read on him improved because of hogwarts or not? Without adding anything to the discussion he tries to look active by just asking questions.
I have no problem with Cheese saying that looks like an opportunistic read, adding a little extra fuel to the HF fire. But Onegu's post was like 13 hours again. Again, cheese is reading through the thread. Either to catch up, or he's been following along. He calls Onegu out for mentioning that Onegu is reading and here to be awesome and do stuff, but not posting relevant stuff. Cheesecake is sometimes here, is reading, but doesn't post any really relevant stuff. It's always a one-off comment, then gone again, and the one-off comment is generally not super helpful, and often drags up something that was posted a while back, indicating he's following along with the game but not DOING anything with the game.
Those are the bits that bother me. He's here. He's read, because he pulls up specific posts from a while back. But he never says much, he never really impacts, and he'll sit for 20-40 minutes and never do another thing of any note. Disrike.
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Mocsta, have you been scum in any large games?
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Yes. I do.
On November 18 2013 02:13 Onegu wrote:
Austin Lets play a game read your own filter and tell me what is missing, maybe compare it to a type of food. Im thinking a marshmellow do you agree? All fluff, looks good, but nothing of substance. You give your first scum read on page 6 of your filter. My note go like this for you. Wow very good at attepting to get people involved with questions. Good back and forth with people. Very detailed thought process. Very active. Wait there are no scum reads. Only gives town reads. Doesnt call anyone scum. Only scumread a lurker and "Rayn could be scum, but I have had him more scummy in his other town games" If this is your read on me, then that is sexy. I'm doing what I'm trying to do.
I don't care about the other stuff right now. It's a mayor game in which it was relatively obvious I was not going to be mayor. That means the first lynch I really have a say in is 120 hours into the game. I'd rather get people involved, let everyone see my thought processes, and just lay a good foundation for future days. Yes, that may look scummy to you. I don't care, it's exactly what I'm trying to do. It's up to you to balance whether you think the lack of reads overrides the other things I'm doing, which I would argue are normally townie things.
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On November 18 2013 04:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 04:29 austinmcc wrote:
Mocsta, have you been scum in any large games? Austin, would you like to continue our little volleyball game from before? I have some time and I think it'd help both my own reads and my reads on yourself. I'll give you a short one for a warmup in Mig. Yeah, I'm around for a bit and this sounds fine. I need to do some work in mason chat too, but this is worthwhile.
I'm fine with your thoughts on me. You saw the same thing Onegu did, which mainly means I've been doing what I'm trying to do. Happy with that as your read on me at the time. It doesn't super affect my read on you, you have no need to curry favor with me as either alignment, no need to really call me out, so it's null that you just say what I did and general feelings on it.
Mig
I like this post - On November 16 2013 02:28 Mig wrote:
The first half of BC's case against you Grack is terrible and overwritten but he is accurate in saying you have been worthless this game. In white flag you figured out pandain was town very quickly and zerod in on Oats in no time. This game you have provided nothing. A couple questions,
1) besides bc who do you think is scum, and is bc your strongest scum read?
2) what do you think of pandain this game?
Mig's thoughts on BC's case ---> pushing Grack forwards. To the extent useless grack is a problem, this attempts to remedy the problem and in a specific way (or at least the bit that points to pandain). Like that post.
Otherwise, lots of focus on mayoral candidates and what they're going to do. Don't love that. Mayoral race important, but it's not scumhunting and it's a great thing to allow activity while not really pushing the game anyway. I made notes to try and look back through for people who talked a lot about what mayor would do what or BH's claim, but not a lot about other stuff. Free activity for scum. His set of posts about mayors fit that bill.
He DOES follow up with the mayor stuff, I'm thinking about voting x because he said he was going to lynch y, and I want y lynched because of given reasons. Stuff like this: On November 17 2013 00:00 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 23:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Are you confident in that BC is town? If so, what specifically changed your mind from null? No I wouldn't say I am super confident BC is town, although I liked his pressure on Storr. But I agree with his 2 top scum picks, grack/storrzerg and I would prefer to see one of them lynched over VE's current candidates. Which is why I am considering him more strongly.
But overall there's not much direction in his filter. Lots of little questions, but nothing in particular built on them, and so many concern the mayoral race specifically. It's an easy way to choose a mayor (not a scummy, but EASY), by picking one target of a mayoral candidate, saying that dude is scummy, and choosing mayor vote off of that. He doesn't pop back up when it's clear BC is out of the race, never had his vote anywhere but BC. For someone who was very concerned with the mayoral race and mayoral lynch candidates, he's utterly uninvolved in the actual election. I dislike that. Even if it's a timing thing, that's a lot of effort to put into asking mayors questions and looking into mayoral lynches, with absolutely nothing to show for it. Apart from that grack post, I like him a moderate degree for mafia.
I would like Mig to speak more about BC as a whole.
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Artanis, your assignment is holyflare
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On November 18 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
What do you make of Alakaslam? Ugh. I THINK I read him town. I look through, I see trolling, I see ... posts. Some letters and stuff. I pull out things like this:
On November 16 2013 18:42 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 18:24 Spaghetticus wrote:If you're all going to ignore me, I assume I'm doing something wrong. Can you at least tell me why I'm being ignored so I can go about fixing it? + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2013 03:50 Spaghetticus wrote:
I’m comfortable with confirming Yamato town. This may seem redundant since that’s the general consensus, but I’m very stringent so this is actually a pretty big step.
On my next readthrough I’ll be fine tooth combing for Mocsta and VE. I’ve got precious history with Mocsta, but he’s also quite active. I want to confirm him town if possible. VE seems like the next most obvious, given the amount of material he has provided. I don’t like some of VE’s towncalls, but I think they’ve already been covered by others.
LoneMeow masoning incident:
I find this unsuspicious. I’m probably more interested in those who tried to force this to be an issue.
Artanis and SS:
SS seems dense. The projected paradigm within which he claims to view the world where everyone’s decision making is based entirely on the single factor of whether or not victory is achieved, is silly.
Does he seriously expect people to sit through a month of his needless abuse in order to slightly increase their chances of winning a prizeless endeavour?
Does he seriously think that by espousing his (so far generally unimpressive) logic to the exclusion of compromise in the pursuit of cooperation, he will achieve his intended position of mayor?
I understand that some people have difficulty getting along with others, but it seems to me a cover. I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on his meta. For someone who proclaims his own competency as a vet at the beginning of the thread, this incompetency is not consistent from my (admittedly limited) perspective. It could very easily be used to obscure scummy motives.
Admittedly, there have also been town tells. I've mixed feelings here.
Grack:
The trolling seems a poor move. BC is hammering him, and IMO rightly so. Grack has fluffed, and Grack has not done much else. I can only think that:
- Grack does not care (useless town)
- Grack is in some way trying to modify his meta (unlikely)
- Grack is trying to scumbait (somewhat more likely)
- Grack is scum (most likely)
The Kush4prez line was possibly scumbait, but honestly I don’t see how a town Grack was planning on taking that bait (if successful) and then convincing town of his plan post hoc. The inevitable arse biting his actions have reaped was entirely foreseeable. It’s difficult to see him as town, as his actions have caused little but discord.
Yamato lynching BC:
I’m not sure, but did I miss the case? I see BC as good, I don’t want him to be scum. I’m not sure why that makes us need to lynch him without further information, as so far he’s been valuable.
Unless I’m missing something, Mocsta was right to demand more reasoning for yamato’s platform based on BC.
That said, Mocsta’s reasoning about cost/benefit for lynching BC confused me. If it’s what I think it is, it’s suspiciously dull.
Sharrant:
I’m not entirely certain how this became a thing, I’ll look into it in my next read. There didn't seem enough information at the time to make reads, that it was mentioned so many times sort of makes me think of artificial intervention.
Kushmasta:
His propensity for unpredictable play makes him unsuitable for mayor. Everyone knows this, though I think some take it too far. Policy lynching him seems both poor play and in poor taste. Using him as a vehicle for lynchbait/trolling is also pretty shit. I think people attempting to bring Kush into the spotlight are hard pressed to provide a believable town motive.
Other than that, there are a lot of people that are sliding around on my scale, but also a lot of undercommitment in posts. If you have a read, please don’t just state your conclusion, as it only begs the question, and junks up the thread with people demanding that you elaborate. You may feel like you’re getting straight to the point #lessismore #quietconfidence but the end result is a less cohesive discussion, and a less effective town. Probably a length issue, I appreciate the spoiler. I will come back to this Nobody responded to spaghetticus's early big post, alakaslam responds to the followup, saying he'll get to it, never does. Often saying you'll do stuff and then not is scummy, but I actually read this townie, because this post is NOTHING but interacting with someone who most people aren't, saying you'll read his thing, and then never actually following through. I don't see that as a scummy missed promise (I'm gonna do this, I will give my read on x, etc.), but more a townie thing, here's some dude that wants comments, I will give him some comments, oops, forgot.
There's a lot of trolling, but there are lots of little posts that show...he's thinking about stuff behind the trolling?
On November 17 2013 09:42 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 09:07 Grackaroni wrote:
I wish the mayors would just make it clear exactly who they will lynch. I doubt Yamato is still going to kill BH. I would lynch Stutters695. It doesn't matter. Nobody is really discussing stutters (who is super duper absent still  ). Slam just claimed to want to run for mayor, gave an ACTUAL candidate, one nobody was talking about, but never pushed anything. He's noticing stutters, mentioning him, when who cares about stutters at this point. Seems like he's watching the game.
When I responded to his trolly "I'm lying, are you going to lynch me?" comment by trolling, he just posted laughter. Seemed lighthearted, no need to follow that up if he's mafia, or if he wants to follow up he can just post more trolly stuff. Instead, he acknowledges it and no more trolling on that subject.
I can't quite put my finger on much more, but I get a general ... aura of townieness from his posts. It's weak, and basically my read on him relies on the fact that he didn't do something minor that he said he would, which I've decided to read as townie.
We'll do a quick one, LoneMeow.
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On November 18 2013 05:32 StorrZerg wrote:
cept this SB crap has got me caught up cause it really is confusing me..
i'd honestly like someone else to give an opinion on it besides SS
Why would town SS make that statement?
Why would mafia SS make that statement?
What benefit does it really give town if a SB goes off on BC and at best we lose no one? at a low possibility 2 people, at high 3+?
Stahp.
Maybe there's a suicide bomber, maybe there's not. The role is there for a reason --> kill important townies through protection.
The role is BALANCED, however, because it has a drawback. Scum lose 1/6 their team, we get to read that person's posts/interactions in a new light. They're 1 person closer to having 1 less NK for the rest of the game.
It's not all reward, there's risk involved too.
SS makes that post because he wants BC stacked OR because he wants BC protected (mafia first, town second). What matters is not anything about a suicide bomber. What you should be poking around, if you're worried about this, is SS's read on BC, exactly why he feels how he feels, and whether you think SS wants a town BC protected or not (imo).
Scum dying is good for town. If scum happen to take out townies when they die, less good. But there are only 6 of them. Dead scum is good scum, and dead scum means less NKs later, good.
But you don't know if they have a suicide bomber. You don't know if all SIX of them are suicide bombers, and going to all bomb people tonight and lose the game. And at this point, it's not particularly helpful to go "what if this" or "what if that." If BC and a bunch of dudes get blown up tonight, maybe you want to question SS. If he doesn't, maybe you don't so much. Maybe you want to look at SS's reads a little harder, particularly his read on BC.
But ... trying to read SS's alignment because of what might or might not happen based on roles that might or might not exist is ... maybe not the best use of time, imo.
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Let's keep talking about LoneMeow, and other people should also weigh in! I chose him just because of me misconstruing what thrawn wanted last night, and realizing I didn't remember much of what LoneMeow had actually posted, although there may be boatloads in mason chat (yamato, y/n?)
I see the counter question, but it's really not much. What's your thought on this odd thing that just happened and involves me? Something wrong with rayn, dunno what. I'm confused on storr, would give him a null or if he's experienced, I'm not sure if I should be leaning scum.
To me, there's very little there. I was really surprised to hear StorrZerg is not a new player, considering he's played in newbies recently. That makes me a bit confused about how to read him. As the StorrZerg I watched play in newbie game, I'd give him a null, but if he's supposed to be more experienced I'm not so sure if I should be instead leaning scum on him. If he's new he's null. If he's experienced, I DUNNO whether i SHOULD be leaning scum on him FOR NO REASONS WHATSOEVER. He's wishy washy on whether he should do something for no reason. I actually really dislike that bit. Even if he's asking for information, if you read it that way, what's he DOING with his question? He wants to know whether storr is new or not? So that he can either be null or be unsure whether he should be scummy on storr for unknown reasons?
While he does ask for the information later, he doesn't do anything with it. Storr isn't mentioned at all in thread after he wants to know new/not, and we still don't know why new/not actually matters (or, given the SHOULD in his statement, whether new/not DOES matter).
He's later compatible with VE for mayor, having never mentioned any of VE's lynch choices (or VE). Skan calls him out on this, and LM gives a very very very bland answerOn November 16 2013 18:17 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 18:12 Skanjab1s wrote:
Why do you prefer VE over the other mayoral candidates? He looks town to me and his lynch choices have been reasonable, although I liked the earlier choices more than the current ones I think. That is the white bread of answers. That is skim milk.
You poke at him, and he responds that BC's early reads are agreeable, and he's pushing not pro-town players. Which would mean grack, never mentioned at all by LM, and ... storrzerg? Who LM was either null on or maybe should be scummy on, but was unsure.
I dunno. I actually really dislike that filter. Yamato, yamato, yamato! You have now been summoned! Do you care to give any insight into mason chat from LM? Is there...stuff there?
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On November 18 2013 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin you are really weak as the only person you think scum is a quite new lurker who played his last game exactly like this and got lynched on D2 as a medic-. Who dat is?
Also, is this LM?
Also, how you feel about his play this game?
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On November 18 2013 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 06:00 austinmcc wrote:On November 18 2013 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin you are really weak as the only person you think scum is a quite new lurker who played his last game exactly like this and got lynched on D2 as a medic-. Who dat is? Also, is this LM? Also, how you feel about his play this game? So you just call him scum and leave yourself an out by saying "if he is newbie he is null"? Which is it? Is he scum or not and why are you not interested in finding out if he is a newbie or not and how he plays? Wut? No, I actually don't know if it's LM you're talking about.
If it is, how do you feel about his play this game? I don't care whether he's new or not, or is being worn as a skinsuit by someone else. His play this game doesn't make me smiley face regardless of whether he's new or not.
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On November 18 2013 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2013 06:05 austinmcc wrote:On November 18 2013 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 18 2013 06:00 austinmcc wrote:On November 18 2013 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
austin you are really weak as the only person you think scum is a quite new lurker who played his last game exactly like this and got lynched on D2 as a medic-. Who dat is? Also, is this LM? Also, how you feel about his play this game? So you just call him scum and leave yourself an out by saying "if he is newbie he is null"? Which is it? Is he scum or not and why are you not interested in finding out if he is a newbie or not and how he plays? Wut? No, I actually don't know if it's LM you're talking about. If it is, how do you feel about his play this game? I don't care whether he's new or not, or is being worn as a skinsuit by someone else. His play this game doesn't make me smiley face regardless of whether he's new or not. Yeah i just realized you were talking from LM's perspective on Storr. Anyways i think he is yown because he masoned yamato at the start of the game. He is a lynchbait and i am not interested in him. Yeah, was referring to LM's asking whether storrzerg was new or not, I don't care about LM's newness right now.
You say LM is lynchbait. Are you implying that LM is scummy but you think he is town? Or you think LM isn't scummy at all?
Do you care at all whether LM has been posting in mason chat?
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On November 18 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
In my world, the books would be nothing but pictures.
Austin can you please post a picture describing your strongest aptitude?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MmLElhEl.png)
I make really good coffee. Very fussy with it, there are all the necessary tools and me with my awesome moose mug getting ready to enjoy it. Other options were math, not really liking lawyerin', and depositing COPIOUS amounts of hair in any bathroom I inhabit despite not being bald and still being relatively hairy.
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I know that's not spectacular quality and the coloring sucks, but whatevs
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On November 18 2013 06:16 StorrZerg wrote:
engage me with something to chat about austin plox Talk to me about...BC and OOHCHILD. ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
Because you are poking here, I will go first.
I don't like the way BC looks. I see very little effort from him D1, apart from making a good post on you and grack, but a post I think both alignments of BC could/should have made. Otherwise, he really comments on little, apart from wanting VE/SS in vests, and his reads are ... 2 that he has been going on about for a while, and poking Hiro and BH. How do you feel about him as a whole? What's the most important thing he's done after calling you and grack out?
I will not say anything about OOHCHILD, and instead YOU will talk about him. Yessssssss.
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Yes yam. You can hide stuff if you want, but I'm interested in at least a rough outline of LM in mason chat. Active? Good active?
Beyond that, you found BC coming out of an argument townish. How do you feel about his play as a whole? He's not perfectly slotted into the "has a big townie rush then fades forever" thing that some vet players do when they role scum (can't keep the act going, just kind of ride a couple townie things until they get blowed up), but he's toeing that line. And I'm just not seeing much of substance from him, he follows grack and storr, pokes a little at mayoral stuff without doing anything, and gives a reads post involving the addition of BH and Hiro, who, no surprise, he's scummy on. They're not tough reads to just slot in anywhere. You cool with his specific play as a whole?
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On November 18 2013 07:26 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 23:12 Spaghetticus wrote:
I want him dead.
That lynch confirmed that I was right to not want him mayor at the very least. I'm struggling to see how he could possibly be town, though I'm willing to admit that there may be some meta thang the rest of you have access to, like in the case of BH. Then you should be suspicious of Austinmcc- I helped him put SuperSoft up and he switched to VE on me. Read my posts around that time, slam. You're misconstruing what I wanted to do.
I wanted VE > Supersoft > yamato.
I voted super instead of myself to push him up to even with yamato (it was 9-8-7 VE/Yam/Super iirc). So it hit 9-8-8 iirc, with yamato still being pardoner.
Then you voted ss, which made it 9-8-9, and i was safe to hop onto VE, the guy I ultimately wanted to win. I did not want someone to pop in and knock ss over VE and into mayor.
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