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austinmcc
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Whatever happened last numbered game has dick all to do with what will happen this game. Except for the fact that people seem to not want to repeat a crappy game, and so this should be way better. | ||
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On November 14 2013 00:36 marvellosity wrote: Screw that. I reserve the right to out if certain people join this game.no-one's outing because of anyone. I firmly believe that the dead should stay dead, not return to life in order to play mafia. If your game fills up with previously-dead folks, I am 100% outing. | ||
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Even if we get moving today, that puts ~ half of the first day on the weekend, and spills over into Friday night, which 9/10 dentists agree if the most weekend-y part of the week. Again, I'll do what I can, but be relatively inactive. So...I guess that's not much different than most D1s. | ||
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rayn (1) Are you town? (2) Please unpack this statement: On November 15 2013 10:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: What, in particular, did you not like about that post? Does the rest of sharrant's filter do anything for you?Yo Pandain i like that you didn't like Sharrant. Dat post you brought up was pretty bad. risen (1) Honest question, you believe this entirely or is it half for poops and giggles? On November 15 2013 10:23 Risen wrote: I'm pretty clearly not anything alignment-wise. So why say this? It's a continuation of a list post? Cool. In that case... Read as: soft pushing a VE who has an open town read on me in thread. Rayn knows he can't come out with a town read on me because I would pounce on him. From rayn's PoV what do you do with a town Risen prone to jumping on those who support him? Try and direct his attention to the person in the thread who has called him town without actually being the one pointing the finger. TL;DR: Lynch rayn. VE is null because my ego says he's town. I like being nominated for things and I'm still salty no one thought to nominate me for my dominant play in World Heavyweight Championship. (2) Beyond that, plox to tell me about Hiro's followup plan: + Show Spoiler + On November 15 2013 09:35 hiro protagonist wrote: Ok, well, out side of my policy lynch, how bout we talk about the positives of a pardner lynch: *We kill off a pro scum role. *It gets people to vote for not just the mayor, but who should be lynched. this means there will be more scumhunting day 1 and less dick wagging. Sharrant (1) Please unpack this statement: On November 15 2013 09:17 Sharrant wrote: Specifically what thoughts do you see, and what do you like about them. I don't care about VE wanting to lynch hiro here, just your thoughts on hiro's thoughts, and on hiro's plan.I actually kind of like the thought going into the plan. How serious are you about wanting to lynch him? (2) What do you think about Hiro's followup, voting such that the D1 mayoral lynch would be 2nd in votes, would get the pardoner role, and would get whacked? | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:18 Risen wrote: I'll come back to (2) later maybe.1) All gut feeling. Not a very logical read. Has some basis in the potential for a scum rayn to think like that, but honestly it's just gut. Still think he should be lynched, my gut is usually right. 2) I honestly don't know. I don't even know what hiro is talking about. I don't love the answer on rayn. You essentially grabbed one small post of his, called him scum for it, claimed to support anyone who wanted to lynch him. But you grabbed it because it "had some basis in the potential for a scum rayn to think like that"? I can see calling it just a gut read, but usually you can at least explain something about WHY your gut thought something. The timing, the smiley, something out of place. This reads like it was maybe a thing scum rayn could do, therefore he's scum, without exploring anything else. It's k, we're gonna keep chatting later in the cycle. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote: It's a thing that a couple people of interest to me poked at, and I want to tease out their poking. Sharrant is a name that keeps popping out. Can someone walk me through what the problem is. Iirc he has made one post. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:29 yamato77 wrote: What claim? If you mean the cop buddies post, that was pregame, and referring to him and koshi being cops in whatevermabob mafia.I was joking, I actually think VE is town. The smiley was a sarcastic one. On another note, did hiro ever answer me about why he softclaimed? If not, he's mafia. | ||
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I will say that, assuming a non-infinite amount of rock-lifting power, Hiro is not a rock I'm interested in looking under today. | ||
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The games that I have played with sharrant, he was NKed in 2 (Dr. Who/Liquid City) and lynched, as mafia, in the third (Boardwalk Empire). I have not seen him be lynchbait. I was mafia in one of the two he was NKed in, and do not particularly remember him being lynchbait. I also do not remember him being particularly in the lynch discussion in Liquid City, the other game in which I played and he was NKed. There may be a number of games in which he has been mislynched, but I have not been a part of them, and in generally I have not seem him be on the chopping block as a townie. HI VE! LET'S BOTH BE TOWN AND WIN THIS GAME AGAIN KKKK? | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:43 yamato77 wrote: I think so, but am not entirely sure atm. I generally think of myself as someone able to show that he's townie early, to assuage any doubts, and I'm usually decent at the game. I feel like I'd make a good mayor.Are you going to run for mayor? If not, who would you elect? Right now, my focus is on getting a handle on a couple people in the game, solidifying D1 reads on them, and then moving towards a good lynch target. If I were to elect someone RIGHT NOW, it would actually be hiropro I think. I'm not going to vote for a person on the basis of their scumread right now, it's way too early in the game for that. So I'd have to vote one of my strongest townreads, and just trust that I can identify a townie to whom I can give a vest and bonus vote, currently looking at Hiro or Holy I think? | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Ezpz.Wgere did mocsta go. Also how the fuck is Hiro your top townread Austin.. On November 15 2013 09:12 hiro protagonist wrote: Could be interpreted as pro-town, could be trolly.My FOOLPROOF mayor candidacy Plan™: step 1: Vote for me for mayor ^__^ step 2: Vote OOHCHILD* for pardner. + Show Spoiler + Sorry VE, I lied about you being my running mate  step 3: I lynch OOHCHILD, taking out a polrizing player, and a pro-scum role day 1. + Show Spoiler + *I reserve the right to lynch someone other than OHHCHILD should a better target apper *I reserve the right to vote for a strong scumhunter for mayor who follows this plan. ##Vote: hiro protagonist He gets poked about his post. On November 15 2013 09:21 hiro protagonist wrote: Yeah, like my plan. I think its a good one and I would like everyone's opinion on it. VE, despite you thinking I am Prp, and there for scum, what do you think of the plan? His response is meh, not overwhelmingly townie. BUT. BUT BUT BUT On November 15 2013 09:35 hiro protagonist wrote: This post is good. This is a legitimate point, and something I also want people to talk about (see questions to risen/sharrant).Ok, well, out side of my policy lynch, how bout we talk about the positives of a pardner lynch: *We kill off a pro scum role. *It gets people to vote for not just the mayor, but who should be lynched. this means there will be more scumhunting day 1 and less dick wagging. Plan + meh + good followup to plan before leaving = townie to me. It shows me that, while he's not super actively involved in side discussion or reads, he's thinking about how to use the setup to town's advantage. Nobody else has done this to the same extent as hiro. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:52 VisceraEyes wrote: VE, you might get my vote.You don't have the power to do that even if you did. All I'm asking for is one measly little vote. Except, that's a later consideration. Thinking I might run myself. Or maybe I decide later that your full name is Visceraeyes Scumberto McScumlichnaya. Which is a VERY scummy name, btw. | ||
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On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote: I think that you CAN categorize hiro's posts as drivel, without really reaching.Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss. But I think if you look at...the progression of what you see as drivel, the trail of drivel, ze pattern into which his drivel is crystallized, it looks townie. His following up on a thought process, and one that is likely town, is townie in and of itself. Agree/disagree? Agree/disagree not in relation to hiro? Like...I will firmly argue that you can read a progression of posts and a train of thought as townie even if the individual posts don't amount to much. | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:01 Oatsmaster wrote: See question 2 to risen and question 2 to sharrant - + Show Spoiler +I get totally different conclusions than you from his filter Austin. First post was a joke and probably something pregame. So thats null. Next post null. Last post, what happens if scum get shennined into the mayor because scum fucks up? I dunno about you, but I do not feel comfortable with giving scum a scum favored role. Its much better to just get the top 2 townies into those 2 roles. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=571&topic_id=434275 I think the thought process is particularly townie. I don't think it's a magical super duper mega can't ever fail town plan. But it smells townie, and I wanted to poke at specific people to see what they thought about---whether they identified holes or not. | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:03 Holyflare wrote: I don't find him townie for having a train of thought.That's the problem with what you are saying though. A train of thought is a human trait not a town/scum one. Just because he sticks to something and elaborates does not make him the towniest in the thread by a long shot. I find him townie for his specific train of thought and the way it progressed. Also, we're talking about my read here. What he's done DOES make him the towniest in the thread to me. Promise. I am, in fact, not just lying about my reads for no reason. | ||
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On November 15 2013 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote: It's not a magical new thing, but a specific person suggested it and did so in a certain way. I found that way townie. Still do. Still will.Btw austin, its been suggested in the 2 mayor games Ive played so far, i assume its not a new thing. Anyway, its not that bad for scum if a townie gets the pardorner and then gets lynched. Its way worse if a townie gets pardoner and is totally town and will never get lynched. | ||
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