On November 18 2013 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: austin you are really weak as the only person you think scum is a quite new lurker who played his last game exactly like this and got lynched on D2 as a medic-.
Who dat is?
Also, is this LM?
Also, how you feel about his play this game?
So you just call him scum and leave yourself an out by saying "if he is newbie he is null"? Which is it? Is he scum or not and why are you not interested in finding out if he is a newbie or not and how he plays?
Wut? No, I actually don't know if it's LM you're talking about.
If it is, how do you feel about his play this game? I don't care whether he's new or not, or is being worn as a skinsuit by someone else. His play this game doesn't make me smiley face regardless of whether he's new or not.
Yeah i just realized you were talking from LM's perspective on Storr. Anyways i think he is yown because he masoned yamato at the start of the game. He is a lynchbait and i am not interested in him.
Yeah, was referring to LM's asking whether storrzerg was new or not, I don't care about LM's newness right now.
You say LM is lynchbait. Are you implying that LM is scummy but you think he is town? Or you think LM isn't scummy at all?
Do you care at all whether LM has been posting in mason chat?
No i do not care about him at all. I don't think he has done anything but that does not make him scum because he did nothing in LXI aswell. I don't care if he has posted in mason chat or not. No.
Koshi, you mentioned Storrzerg a few times as scum and have not given any reasoning for your scum read.
On November 17 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote: I could see Storrzerg being scum. I was not impressed when we talked earlier. But rayn lynch is better.
On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Koshi
I don't support your reads.
Skanj4b: nha Pandain: nha just isn't playing hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha. Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today. Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why?
What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers?
On November 18 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote: In my world, the books would be nothing but pictures.
Austin can you please post a picture describing your strongest aptitude?
I make really good coffee. Very fussy with it, there are all the necessary tools and me with my awesome moose mug getting ready to enjoy it. Other options were math, not really liking lawyerin', and depositing COPIOUS amounts of hair in any bathroom I inhabit despite not being bald and still being relatively hairy.
On November 18 2013 06:16 StorrZerg wrote: engage me with something to chat about austin plox
Talk to me about...BC and OOHCHILD. ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
Because you are poking here, I will go first.
I don't like the way BC looks. I see very little effort from him D1, apart from making a good post on you and grack, but a post I think both alignments of BC could/should have made. Otherwise, he really comments on little, apart from wanting VE/SS in vests, and his reads are ... 2 that he has been going on about for a while, and poking Hiro and BH. How do you feel about him as a whole? What's the most important thing he's done after calling you and grack out?
I will not say anything about OOHCHILD, and instead YOU will talk about him. Yessssssss.
On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Koshi
I don't support your reads.
Skanj4b: nha Pandain: nha just isn't playing hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha. Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today. Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why?
What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers?
His first scumread was Mattchew but when I pressured him about he he didn't know what to say.
On November 18 2013 06:14 Grackaroni wrote: Koshi, you mentioned Storrzerg a few times as scum and have not given any reasoning for your scum read.
On November 17 2013 00:59 Koshi wrote: I could see Storrzerg being scum. I was not impressed when we talked earlier. But rayn lynch is better.
On November 17 2013 01:46 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Koshi
I don't support your reads.
Skanj4b: nha Pandain: nha just isn't playing hiro protagonist: Did nothing at all so nha. Grack: Disappeared. also nha. Not today. Oatsmaster: where is the case? Why?
What is it that differentiates Storrzerg from other lurkers?
His first scumread was Mattchew but when I pressured him about he he didn't know what to say.
Nothing else in his filter? that exchange looks absolutely fine to me.
On November 16 2013 00:26 Koshi wrote: I have no problem with BloodyC0bbler. He will come back with a bang, his opening post demands it.
On November 16 2013 01:55 Koshi wrote: Told you guys he would come back with a bang.
@BC StorrZerg - Not enough content, don't understand why so many people are disappointed with him, because that is the main reason on why he is scum? Wasn't that incredible awesome in Hogwarts. Grackeroni - Can lynch. Don't know if he would flip red. Truly useless. Don't know if he plays this game to find scum.
@rayn Holyflare - I liked Holyflare his posts in Hogwarts on D1, don't like them now. Could be because he doesn't know the answers this game. Don't see why he is scummy.
Talk to me about this post. From the first line I get the impression that you liked BC's Grack/Storrzerg scum post, yet you don't seem to agree with any of the reasoning he throws out for either me or Storrzerg being scum.
Okay, so I've caught up to the lynch since I stopped reading yesterday due to going to my friend's birthday and then subsequently passing out for 12+ hours. FIRST and FOREMOST, I want to say that neither super nor VE have analyzed just about anyone in the game at all up to this point and yet people trusted their reads and analysis skills over mine (LOLOLOLOLOL). I should have been elected pardoner, mafia will 100% shoot me tonight.
On November 17 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Blazinghand you should probably claim so i can laugh a lot. With maybe some pre-game actions and pictures.
Your wish is my command, it seems like if I don't yamato is just going to kill me so here's what i've been sitting on
Oh shit is yamato actually going to lynch me ._. the people i have to put up with...
Fine i'll solve this problem. I do don't lynch me I'm the Tracker
Sock head > sock is like soccer, which is known as football = football head
Also the first word of the post is "hey" and you know who is referred to by "hey, football head!" that's right, it's Arnold from Hey Arnold. And you know who Arnold is?
Yes that is right, I am the tracker, don't lynch me, you are all jubjubs for even thinking about doing it, especially you Yamato
On November 17 2013 01:14 yamato77 wrote: The biggest gripe I have have with Austin is how he approached this:
On November 15 2013 12:50 austinmcc wrote:
On November 15 2013 12:43 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 12:40 austinmcc wrote:
On November 15 2013 12:37 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:16 hiro protagonist wrote: Thats cool VE. but this was my plan before I got a role. I think its a good one ^__^
Obviously a claim.
Ah. I don't read it that way, but I see where you at.
I will say that, assuming a non-infinite amount of rock-lifting power, Hiro is not a rock I'm interested in looking under today.
Are you going to run for mayor? If not, who would you elect?
I think so, but am not entirely sure atm. I generally think of myself as someone able to show that he's townie early, to assuage any doubts, and I'm usually decent at the game. I feel like I'd make a good mayor.
Right now, my focus is on getting a handle on a couple people in the game, solidifying D1 reads on them, and then moving towards a good lynch target.
If I were to elect someone RIGHT NOW, it would actually be hiropro I think. I'm not going to vote for a person on the basis of their scumread right now, it's way too early in the game for that. So I'd have to vote one of my strongest townreads, and just trust that I can identify a townie to whom I can give a vest and bonus vote, currently looking at Hiro or Holy I think?
Not only is hiro someone who has subsequently fallen off the map, but Austin went to AMAZING lengths to justify this super town read of hiro so early on. He's never really updated who he wants to be mayor at all. In fact, all Austin's done since this point in time is prod 2 players about things, Pandain and Onegu. He's responsive when questioned and appears pro-town, but Austin is capable of those things as mafia.
What I want to know is, who does he want for mayor now, and why? If he were mayor, who would he lynch? I don't see much along these lines in his filter. He mentions the mayor talk "doesn't do much" for him, yet when he was town in LIX, he ran for mayor and actively participated in the campaigning D1. This game, Austin's firmly in the group of players right below the super townie active ones which is where he usually is as mafia.
Perhaps I'm taking this a bit far, but he seems like mafia to me. I'd rather lynch BH over him, but he's second on the list at the moment.
Wait, rehash the reasoning what BH is doing right now is non-town-BH again for me plz.
Read his filter in Hogwarts.
A BH who isn;t trying at all is a scum BH. He can be invovled, a la Thug Life, as town. There's no good excuse for how he's playing this game except that he's mafia.
I've played trolly and non-trolly as both scum and town. It's certainly not helpful when I'm a lurking troll D1 as town but it happens all the time and it's always the same conversation when it does. Here's how it goes.
Some guy: hey why is bh so quiet and unhelpful? he did this once as scum, therefore he is scum Me, or sometimes someone who knows me: yeah that's not really alignment indicative. BH definitely CAN be lurky and useless as scum but it happens when he is town as well; and him being active is not a towntell for him either. Basically the only towntell for BH is him catching scum Some guy: but I want to lynch BH based on a poor understanding of his meta!!!! wahhh
so in any case let me know if you want to have that conversation, again, with real words, or if this will suffice for you. Lynching me today is a terrible idea. don't do it.
BH did nothing the rest of D1. ANYONE elected mayor should have killed him for it, yet VE killed Skanjab1s when he'd done way more stuff that made him look decent than BH. In fact, after I reread Skan's filter yesterday, I came to the conclusion that he was town. Hence why I tried to get him to do useful things. Notably, VE never actually supported his read on SKan at all and actually just straight up lynched him WITHOUT the analysis he promised he would give.
Needless to say, I am suspicious of VE now. I thought he was town but since the early posting, he has done very little in the way of actually interacting with the thread, plus he posted this:
On November 17 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Everyone should vote for Supersoft. I'm not even joking, he's probably the only chance we have for getting an obviously town (to most everyone) decent analyst up in the role (no offense yamato) if we're for whatever reason having doubts about VE and BC.
Why would a TOWN VE vote SS for mayor in this situation? VE removed himself from any scrutiny for no reason whatsoever. He did nothing substantive since early D1. I honestly think he lynched Skan because Skan was suspicious of him. Honestly, I would lynch VE tomorrow for how fishy this shit is.
I also don't particularly care for supersoft and how he played D1 either:
On November 17 2013 04:38 supersoft wrote: ----- lol, okay lynch me. I accept it -----
There are people not voting for their favourites, because they don't want to be in the minority. They even say that openly in the thread.
there are people that claim tracker with some comic reference.
There are people who are willing to believe that claim.
there is yamato (Green but completely useless in scumhunting) is leading in votes... FOR A PLACE IN THE OFFICE
there is VE who just refuses to teamplay.
there is rayn and koshi who chat with each other and fill about 5 pages with accusing each other without ANY substance behind the accuses.
there is grackaroni who talks in third person like a retard
there is pandain who is masoned to me and who is obviously scum.
there is Lonemeow who only talks to crazyyamato
there is mig claiming scum with his terrible notes and his more than obvious lack of interst in this game - which can easily be seen, because he doesnt follow up any questions. i ignore his questions intentionally, to test his interest in this game. He probably just forgot about them, because he just doesnt care.
Ah, yes, there is coagulation, who claims randomly medic. I think twice and beside that doesnt post anything reasonable at all.
And then there I am, OBVIOUSLY town, and obviously without any protection n1, so
all in all, it would fit the pattern of this game really nicely if you'd lynch me day1.
This post is horrible. He gives a few reads here and there but it's really just campaigning for mayor the whole time. When asked later, SS doesn't even know who he would lynch if he's mayor, what the fuck? Didn't I tell you guys to pick mayors based on their lynch choices, and NOT on reputation? Yet, as VA pointed out+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote: I will use my vote if necessary to make sure supersoft or BC does not get into power, that's a promise!
You can learn a lot of things from the flowers... Huh! Seems to me they could learn a few things about manners!
Are your reasons for not voting him still that he's a dick?
that was never my reason, I don't see anything particularly good/groundbreaking in his filter, seems like he's sliding by on reputation to put it lightly
, that's the sole reason people vote for SS. He doesn't even look townie at all.
Nor do I like how some people arrived at voting for SS:
On November 17 2013 04:59 Pandain wrote: Alright you guys now that Yamato can tunnel too long.
VE is okay but he's not the best. Supersoft can come off as brash but he's also town(anyone disagree, please tell why) and a far better analyzer. I'm masoned with him and think this would be best weapon against scum.
This is after SS called Pandain mafia for sure (in that post above). Doesn't read weird to anybody? The interaction between these two is weird and so is the mason chat thing between them. Both mention it, but neither one says what they actually talk about in there, they just use it to justify their reads on each other. Fishy, much?
On November 17 2013 04:43 Stutters695 wrote: SS for mayor imo.
Out of left field. Not only was this Stutters second(?) post in the game, but I don't think he ever substantiated this.
On November 17 2013 06:52 Sharrant wrote: Hurray! Supersoft hit the obv town button.
##Vote Supersoft
OOHCHILD is very likely town. Looks exactly like standard Kush town play. ++
My thoughts on Hopeless haven't changed. Lynchable. -
Completely null on Hiro. The fact that his plan was from before the game starts means he's said nothing alignment indicative at all. Can't really glean anything off of his tone either. 0
Storr looks bad but I honestly can't tell if it's new player bad tendencies, or mafia mindset. I'd rank him as slightly scummy, but my gut is telling me that he's a townie that just looks bad. :-\ Would rank him as a - but I'm not certain enough to lynch him.
Rayn: Wanted to lynch him earlier, but he started doing some things that I expect from town Rayn. (The original suspicion was because last time he thought I was scum we had a very long back and forth that exhausted basically all of day 1. This game he went "post looks bad", but he then went on and got into decent fights with a few other people.) I think I'm back on the side of lynching him at this point. --
Coag is completely null, but if I had to guess I'd guess town. 0
I will be here until deadline.
Sharrant has been floated as possible mafia, and for good reason. He said he'd "be here until deadline", but did little else to contribute. His reads haven't been consistent and he's been really inactive compared to how he usually plays as town.
Needless to say, votes on SS come from shady players doing weird things. I agree with Matt that the wagon came about weirdly and should have not happened, yet it did. It LOOKS LIKE SCUM rallying around their only viable candidate. Shame on all of you for not voting me into office over these two players.
As for SS's posts themselves, there are multiple times when he is asked about reads where he dodges or is subsequently "not sure". He gave that list post above, and then qwhen asked who he would lynch as mayor, he somehow arrives to the conclusion that MOCSTA is mafia. Conveniently, he does this to try to convince grack to vote for him since he sees that grack supports Artanis in thinking Moc is mafia...
Austin (one person I actually no longer find that scummy, since his return to the thread and activity therein) asked this:
On November 17 2013 05:11 austinmcc wrote: Also super, I know your list includes a couple very low volume/contribution posters. Is cheesecake off the list because you think he's town, or just super duper forgettable and he should actually be on there?
On November 17 2013 05:11 austinmcc wrote: Also super, I know your list includes a couple very low volume/contribution posters. Is cheesecake off the list because you think he's town, or just super duper forgettable and he should actually be on there?
I don't want to kill someone who doesnt participate at all, these guys can be town or scum you never ever know it for sure. I know that if i get elected, I have to kill scum, to prevent the inevitable discussion whether I am scum for not killing scum or not. Yes there are still some of these people on that list, but I am here and I will work on my scumreads until the deadline comes.
Which seems like bullshit, given that many of his scum reads are on people who are basically not participating at all!
Why do the two elected people look so fucking scummy?
On November 17 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote: what would be excellent would be if vayne is actually scum and some jubber lynches me today
Va, rayn & yamato scumteam. What do you think?
Makes him mafia. He has given no reason that I am mafia, yet he is accusing me. He seeks to discredit me multiple times in the thread and has posted nothing but drivel since making a "case" on Rayn. Koshi is actually mafia.
Now, I'll read the other ~20 pages and catch up fully.
yeah okay, i hope they really shoot you, so i dont have to deal with your bullshit anymore.
I stopped reading, when you started making stuff up: I never said people should vote for mayor based on lynchchoices. I always said people should vote based on the townieness and skill of the candidate.
On November 18 2013 06:58 Grackaroni wrote: Rayn what are your town tells for Koshi. I see nothing townie in Koshi's filter.
Oh and NOW you bring it up? He's happy as town and uses phrases that i find funny. Really, that's how i read Koshi. In this game he is sad and serious.
On November 18 2013 06:16 StorrZerg wrote: engage me with something to chat about austin plox
Talk to me about...BC and OOHCHILD. ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
Because you are poking here, I will go first.
I don't like the way BC looks. I see very little effort from him D1, apart from making a good post on you and grack, but a post I think both alignments of BC could/should have made. Otherwise, he really comments on little, apart from wanting VE/SS in vests, and his reads are ... 2 that he has been going on about for a while, and poking Hiro and BH. How do you feel about him as a whole? What's the most important thing he's done after calling you and grack out?
I will not say anything about OOHCHILD, and instead YOU will talk about him. Yessssssss.
I also pointed out that i believed one of his attacks are policy(grack) and that either alignment could have made them, and it felt like he was not actually looking for scum.
The case on myself was about a difference of opinion. From our convo, i would think its pretty clear both of us cannot be scum. I could possibly see it as a case that town bc would make, but i find it an easy case for mafia BC to make since he all ready made his case on grack which was policy. Overall it feels like a super weak start to the infamous BC.
Also storr never did anything substantial on his return to sway my belief of his alignment. He didn't provide any big new pieces of information. He didn't really do anything except defend himself. Fact of the matter is he looks worse than he did before. He and grack are still my two top reads for scum. That hasn't changed and neither has done anything to change that belief.
This is another post where he attacks, yet no content is provided. What happened to make me look worse? How could i look even worse when i was "scum" earlier. I see bc tunneling on 2 people and throwing out some town reads. He does try and help town to vote for VE and SS which i can agree with so he earns points for that. + Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 07:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: read time
Grackeroni
I have already harped on this guy. nothing has changed, at all. He hasn't posted anything groundbreaking, he hasn't attempted to really help the town in any way. Given that he has shown no compulsion to help even after being called out, I see no reason to think hes town.
Storrzerg My read here has altered slightly in that I still think hes red, but he could end up being town. I am moving him to a null read given that if he keeps posting like he has been I am willing to say my initial read was wrong
Hiro He has 0 content to his posts, insanely inactive, and i know hes capable of doing more than he is. Its possible hes just busy, but ive seen the guy lurk as red before and skate by on minimum posting standards as such I am keeping him to red until he proves otherwise
Blazinghand
The guy is fucking retarded. He is inactive for 24 hours, busts out with a shitty campaign post spouting horseshit, says hes gonna catch up and post then proceeds to have spotty play. He doesn't post any reads, he still defends bad play, he even then when called on it and sees his name up for a possible lynch claims tracker with the worst possible bread crumb in the world. He has done nothing useful whatsoever. I expect far more out of him than what he has given.
I do think at this point barring weird fucking circumstances i can confidently say
Supersoft, VE are town, yamato and artanis i have strong leanings on being town.
Now i finally see some BC that has started to change. He has changed his view on myself, yet i don't see why. I'm not sure what changed, cause he goes from storr scum for "newby card + rng" then "even more scum for recent post, no idea what this post is or posts" , and then to null because ????
Can't read much into his grack opinion, other than town bc would jump on grack and so would scum
Hiro has to fall in the same spot with grack. AKA BC just jumping on a lurk. (Hiro ends up replaced i think)
BH, this maybe better in terms of looking for scum. Yet it still feels like an easy jump that is less based on BH being mafia and more BH being trolly
Overall i don't see much from BH int terms of scum hunting and his change in view seems to lack reason. Maybe im expecting to much of him, but im leaning Scum on BH.
in short BH has only jumped on weak lynches, thown some town reads, changed his mind about myself with no real reason.
On November 18 2013 06:58 Grackaroni wrote: Rayn what are your town tells for Koshi. I see nothing townie in Koshi's filter.
Oh and NOW you bring it up? He's happy as town and uses phrases that i find funny. Really, that's how i read Koshi. In this game he is sad and serious.
I've clearly just been digging through his filter lol. You just posted recently.
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