EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 124
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On October 26 2013 08:21 Holyflare wrote: The rayn I played with when scum was a dog with a bone, however, that bone was actually a retard stick and he wouldn't let go of it. He was aggressive on really really minor points and couldn't coherently come up with proper reasoning for scum motives. This rayn is different, he's still a dog with a bone but it's a bone that is made of logic and reasoning. Do you think this is an accurate representation of Rayn's meta? You say he is town now for his persistence. How much do you think that really matters if almost all he does is call you scum for not reading the thread? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On November 18 2013 05:34 austinmcc wrote: We'll do a quick one, LoneMeow. LoneMeow I have a confident townread on. He started the game by masoning Yamato. An action I would consider mildly townie to null. Mildly townie in that Yamato is a good player and is verbose, to null because I wouldn't consider him the best player in the game. Nevertheless, the argumentation for it makes sense if he played a previous game with Yamato. He tries to get a read on others by little things such as On November 15 2013 23:12 LoneMeow wrote: I'd like to hear if you think yamato outing me is alignment indicative or not. Something about raynpelikoneet is bothering me, but I can't pin it down on any specific post. I didn't like how strongly he defended me, though. I was really surprised to hear StorrZerg is not a new player, considering he's played in newbies recently. That makes me a bit confused about how to read him. As the StorrZerg I watched play in newbie game, I'd give him a null, but if he's supposed to be more experienced I'm not so sure if I should be instead leaning scum on him. He asks Mocsta a counter question to get some information out of him rather than just indulging him. The last part of this post is interesting too in that he openly leaves doubt on his read on StorrZerg, but follows it up by asking people for the information he's missing. His reads evolve and he's open about what's happening behind closed doors. I had a short back and forth with him too, and though it was difficult to get it going I found important information in how he read Spaghetticus that leads me to believe him to be town, in particular the contrast with how Mocsta approached the situation. On November 17 2013 00:09 LoneMeow wrote: Before his VE case I'd have said completely null. I haven't fully analyzed the case yet, but just the fact that he's pushing someone most consider town makes him either quite ballsy scum or town, and I'd be tempted to think the latter is more probable (NB: I'm not aware of his meta). What do you think of raynpelikoneet? His reaction to it seems to come from a town mindset, so I consider him just that. I don't have time to do another right now, but if you'd like to do one more that'd be fantastic. Your choice, and I'd also like to hear the motivation for your choice. | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On November 18 2013 05:42 Grackaroni wrote: HF, I remember you had a description of Rayn's meta in Hogwarts. (I understand you were scum that game, but you also used it in order to defend a townie so I would assume you actually believe it?) Do you think this is an accurate representation of Rayn's meta? You say he is town now for his persistence. How much do you think that really matters if almost all he does is call you scum for not reading the thread? I said I thought he was town but now I cannot tell because of all of this stuff that he is doing, I said that to koshi like a page or two ago. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On November 18 2013 05:51 Holyflare wrote: I said I thought he was town but now I cannot tell because of all of this stuff that he is doing, I said that to koshi like a page or two ago. Did you say that in Hogwarts because you were scum or because you believe it? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On November 18 2013 05:53 Grackaroni wrote: Did you say that in Hogwarts because you were scum or because you believe it? I believed it and after seeing his posts on you in hogwarts I am inclined to think this too is town rayn. However, I'm just going to say null because I honestly do not know nor care at this present point. There are other people I want to lynch which I will explain in a bit. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I see the counter question, but it's really not much. What's your thought on this odd thing that just happened and involves me? Something wrong with rayn, dunno what. I'm confused on storr, would give him a null or if he's experienced, I'm not sure if I should be leaning scum. To me, there's very little there. I was really surprised to hear StorrZerg is not a new player, considering he's played in newbies recently. That makes me a bit confused about how to read him. As the StorrZerg I watched play in newbie game, I'd give him a null, but if he's supposed to be more experienced I'm not so sure if I should be instead leaning scum on him. If he's new he's null. If he's experienced, I DUNNO whether i SHOULD be leaning scum on him FOR NO REASONS WHATSOEVER. He's wishy washy on whether he should do something for no reason. I actually really dislike that bit. Even if he's asking for information, if you read it that way, what's he DOING with his question? He wants to know whether storr is new or not? So that he can either be null or be unsure whether he should be scummy on storr for unknown reasons? While he does ask for the information later, he doesn't do anything with it. Storr isn't mentioned at all in thread after he wants to know new/not, and we still don't know why new/not actually matters (or, given the SHOULD in his statement, whether new/not DOES matter). He's later compatible with VE for mayor, having never mentioned any of VE's lynch choices (or VE). Skan calls him out on this, and LM gives a very very very bland answer On November 16 2013 18:17 LoneMeow wrote: That is the white bread of answers. That is skim milk. He looks town to me and his lynch choices have been reasonable, although I liked the earlier choices more than the current ones I think. You poke at him, and he responds that BC's early reads are agreeable, and he's pushing not pro-town players. Which would mean grack, never mentioned at all by LM, and ... storrzerg? Who LM was either null on or maybe should be scummy on, but was unsure. I dunno. I actually really dislike that filter. Yamato, yamato, yamato! You have now been summoned! Do you care to give any insight into mason chat from LM? Is there...stuff there? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 18 2013 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who dat is?austin you are really weak as the only person you think scum is a quite new lurker who played his last game exactly like this and got lynched on D2 as a medic-. Also, is this LM? Also, how you feel about his play this game? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 18 2013 06:00 austinmcc wrote: Who dat is? Also, is this LM? Also, how you feel about his play this game? So you just call him scum and leave yourself an out by saying "if he is newbie he is null"? Which is it? Is he scum or not and why are you not interested in finding out if he is a newbie or not and how he plays? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 18 2013 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wut? No, I actually don't know if it's LM you're talking about. So you just call him scum and leave yourself an out by saying "if he is newbie he is null"? Which is it? Is he scum or not and why are you not interested in finding out if he is a newbie or not and how he plays? If it is, how do you feel about his play this game? I don't care whether he's new or not, or is being worn as a skinsuit by someone else. His play this game doesn't make me smiley face regardless of whether he's new or not. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
nvm. I think LM is town and i think your read is bad. | ||
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Spaghetticus
Australia451 Posts
On November 18 2013 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Spaghetticus is there any reason why you are refusing to give your thoughts on Austin? I don't really have any. My sphere of focus lies elsewhere. There are far too many people in this game for me to keep tabs. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 18 2013 06:05 austinmcc wrote: Wut? No, I actually don't know if it's LM you're talking about. If it is, how do you feel about his play this game? I don't care whether he's new or not, or is being worn as a skinsuit by someone else. His play this game doesn't make me smiley face regardless of whether he's new or not. Yeah i just realized you were talking from LM's perspective on Storr. Anyways i think he is yown because he masoned yamato at the start of the game. He is a lynchbait and i am not interested in him. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Austin can you please post a picture describing your strongest aptitude? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 18 2013 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah, was referring to LM's asking whether storrzerg was new or not, I don't care about LM's newness right now.Yeah i just realized you were talking from LM's perspective on Storr. Anyways i think he is yown because he masoned yamato at the start of the game. He is a lynchbait and i am not interested in him. You say LM is lynchbait. Are you implying that LM is scummy but you think he is town? Or you think LM isn't scummy at all? Do you care at all whether LM has been posting in mason chat? | ||
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