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I like storr's abrasiveness early. It moves our discussion along. I want to hear the response to balla's question. Looking at the TL profiles nyxnyxnyx is the only player clearly marked outside of North America. Make your presence known here town. Otherwise you're going to end up lynched and that's not a great start to the game. | ||
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@cakeman why would that be better? It made the conversation start did it not? | ||
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Nyxnyxnyx is active in lol subforum. I expect to see him post in the next few hours. It's an awkward time for him. @storr If you've played or obs'd newb games you'd understand his concern. This thread looks active and that's an oddity from what i've seen in the last two games. | ||
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On October 30 2013 15:07 Tehpoofter wrote: I have to say thus far the biggest read I have so far is on Cake. I know its been discussed (but i was afk) my two cents is that his read of storr as being suspicious is off and I have to say he has been accused of being scummy by balla but has yet to address balla in her posts, I find that odd. @Cake what do you think of balla accussing you of being scummy? You seem to address the other people coming hard on you and I feel like you have gotten a fair bit of heat for day one so maybe it was just something you missed idk just want to hear what you had to say on that. (On a side not balla I feel like you should change your name to "Bella" because I had it typed in that way in here and on all my notes before realizing my mistake and having to change it all  ) Yo don't dismiss storr so quickly. He's done nothing to prove town except participating and probing. We cannot be lulled so easily. Obzy, this game is not moving quickly as in I cannot keep up with it. It's moving quickly in comparison to other games. I'm hoping the players who are MIA post while I'm sleeping and we can keep this moving forward. + Show Spoiler [balla name rant off topic] + As your side note, people in the last game called him bella also. How in the fuck is bella more relatable than balla? Like "I'm a balla, shot calla" or any other balla reference in the last 20 years from pop culture. I don't get it. Fuck it, I'm derailing this but I just dont get it. | ||
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Here's the beginning of the long posts. Vanesco repeatedly apologizes and brings nothing new to the table. Jumping on with Storr. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote: Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it... You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc). Why so indecisive already? Seems like derailing and pushing towards cake following the trail. Cake looking more like inexperienced town than scum to me. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote: Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it... You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc). Remember he jumped on an EARLY bandwagon. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 11:40 Vanesco wrote: @cakemanofdoom All I'm saying is that onlywonderboy didn't really respond to StorrZ comment other than saying he doesn't agree. You on the other hand just talk about Storr trying to pressure Balla with no evidence (which is in my opinion is a justified play on page 1 of day 1). It just seems to me like you are trying to redirect off of Balla. And again so apologetic. If you're not mafia what do you have to hide? + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 11:46 Vanesco wrote: @Obzy In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla. There are a couple more apologizing posts then this one jumping on poofter. I'm saying poofter/vanesco are both scum. [+ Show Spoiler + QUOTE]On October 30 2013 14:17 Vanesco wrote: Exactly Balla, I was just about to post about Tehpoofter. I would like to hear from him, even if he thinks he has nothing to add, it would help town. Show me otherwise. Do we have a voting thread? | ||
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In this post he acknowledges and explains his actions. + Show Spoiler + On October 31 2013 01:12 cakemanofdoom wrote: Out of the people who have posted, tehpoofter is the one looking most scummy to me. I think it's a bit suspicious how he manages to end his real life obligations and post so soon after he was called out for inactivity, but I'll try not to speculate on his real life. More importantly, I don't like his read on me. I know I've looked suspicious, but not addressing Balla is quite possibly the least suspicious thing I've done. It's not like there's a scummy reason for lumping one attacker with others and addressing them all together. Even poofter seems to realize that, and backs off a bit by admitting that I might have just not noticed Balla amidst the attacks on me. What's left is a post that accuses me, with a poor new idea. I think poofter was trying to defend himself form the inactivity complaints, and he came up with some random poor evidence to try to show that he's contributing. I'll agree that Jonny's case on Vanesco was pushing it. Van was definitely not joining a bandwagon; if anything, he started it with decent reasoning. And in all his earlier posts he seemed quite certain that I was scum, not much apologizing. Why push van so hard with a vote and leave barely anything on poofter? His earlier response addresses his accuser, makes a point and explains himself with confidence. [+ Show Spoiler + QUOTE]On October 30 2013 15:53 cakemanofdoom wrote: Not addressing Balla is because I've been trying to address my accusations in general. I only addressed people directly when they directly ask me something or if there's something in a post that confused me. I think Balla is justified in calling me scummy (though I'm not scum). Van's comment on me defending Balla was inaccurate, so I wanted to correct him. Carelessly, I mentioned owb's post as an example of what I consider defending (actually disagreeing with the one who's doing the questioning) in hopes of making it clear that I was not defending. I can see how that looks like deflecting, and why that looks bad on me. And then, I was trying to get more people to talk, though that came off as asking people for their thoughts without contributing anything to town. It's just that at that point, from my perspective, no one was acting particularly scummy, so I focused on trying to get people to say stuff that I could make reads with. Hope my thought process is clear to you all. I'm town, and I know there's not much that I can say at this point to convince you guys of that. Thankfully, we have plenty of time for others to post, so hopefully I'll prove my innocence hunting scum once everyone else starts posting. He's someone to monitor but I'm not comfortable saying he's mafia at all anymore. Town who started the game badly when very few posts had been made? Sure. Read his filter again and tell me why I should feel otherwise. I'll get to vanesco and poofter in a minute. | ||
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He goes on to post five more 1-2 liners that say NOTHING immediately after that post. E00e worries me a lot. If we don't see more from him I'm down to lynch the semi-lurker as well. A bunch of one liners and saying that I'm wrong. Fine, I'll be wrong but why? And where are the inconsistencies? I explain my reasoning. Granted the reasoning on Van was a stretch. Rereading Van's filter with fresh eyes I'll back off of him for now. I'm not sold but it's whatever. @Poofter I want more from you. I said Van was on a bandwagon for cake, when in reality I saw the ordering incorrectly. Cake is an easy target right now it appears. Why do you believe he's scum? Why do you not state any facts and instead have all questions? You're agreeing or disagreeing with others but not adding anything of your own. ##unvote vanesco And thanks Lonemeow it was late and I missed that part. I was looking for a link to a thread. | ||
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Guessing which one is scum will be difficult though. Odin has given us nothing to work with but signed up for another mafia game and was decently active in his last game. I'd rather take an educated guess than go off of nothing. If odin doesn't post or vote lynch him day2 if we need. There are 24 hours to go I want to see what people put out there before the deadline. | ||
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Here are some of the highlights I particulary dislike. This whole post is saying nice things without actually saying anything. You say you don't want to clog up the thread while that's exactly what you are doing. Why would you not be comfortable voting if you're not trying to keep the thread from progressing. "I like van, i like ball because he calls me out. Posting more is better, go team! Then the excuse, I'm new blah blah." On October 30 2013 15:28 Tehpoofter wrote: @Van I don't have anything too strong but I do like the way you have been approaching things from multiple angles as opposed to just tunnel visioning on one person or thing I feel like that is a pro town move. My other read thus far is on Balla I liked that she was calling me out for not posting for awhile when I had previously given some input that seems pro town to me posting more is always better! Also I'd like to know what you(van) think about the July vote from store/obzy? Too soon? I'm new so the timing may be fairly typical but seems early too me I'm just starting to build up some reads here not sure I feel comfortable voting yet. Either post or don't post. Why be defensive. On October 31 2013 01:35 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm trying to get some posts in before I head to class in a half hour so going to try to make this quick and not spam the thread to hard Again. On October 30 2013 16:17 Tehpoofter wrote: just an fyi I'm playing in daily mafia so concentrating on that for the next bit will check in here if things get going but if I'm not around thats where I went. Where is this post??? On October 31 2013 06:45 Tehpoofter wrote: On cake I made a post last night about how I felt about him and his early accusations which don't need to be rehashed now as its nothing new to go on. Do you mean this?? Because in this post all you say is it's been discussed. You're trying to hide under the cover of being pro town while you say nothing and follow the easier reads other people have made for you. On October 30 2013 15:07 Tehpoofter wrote: I have to say thus far the biggest read I have so far is on Cake. I know its been discussed (but i was afk) my two cents is that his read of storr as being suspicious is off and I have to say he has been accused of being scummy by balla but has yet to address balla in her posts, I find that odd. @Cake what do you think of balla accussing you of being scummy? You seem to address the other people coming hard on you and I feel like you have gotten a fair bit of heat for day one so maybe it was just something you missed idk just want to hear what you had to say on that. (On a side not balla I feel like you should change your name to "Bella" because I had it typed in that way in here and on all my notes before realizing my mistake and having to change it all ) | ||
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On October 31 2013 09:02 Balla24 wrote: You mean as lurker lynch targets JonnyLaw? Or is there another reason you'd be ok with lynching them? Exactly Balla, they're hardly active and are certainly not contributing to the town at this point regardless of their alignment. I think going through their filters it's possible to make an educated guess and hope for the best. As I said there's 24 hours to go so we have some time to see improvement out of their play. | ||
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Until we're closer to the deadline I'm not voting storrzerg. He has time to contribute as do the other lurkers. If nothing by then I'll listen to any and all arguments for the four players who have not contributed a lot. For now, lets stick to discussing active players please. | ||
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On October 31 2013 11:34 OdinOfPergo wrote: Ok holy crap. Actually you know what, I'm not sorry. I work really freaking hard to support my lifestyle. If anyone wants to call me out for it... Well let's dance baby. Anyway, I need to re-read this thread again but on first glance I don't like Cake, July, or Jonny at all. Their post offer little content or crumby arguments. I need to persue these leads obv since I haven't been here. But give me like an hour. Maby two. I will type up an explanation for my reads. If you don't have time to play a game why join? I work hard as well to "support my life style" but I don't cry about it. Join the working world. | ||
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Contribute what you can and stop fucking whining. | ||
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You com ein here so angry | ||
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I've been in this game the entire time and said nothing to you except stop making excuses. And again, stop making excuses. Enter the thread and post something useful. Don't come in so defensive then cry about work. We don't know you. No one cares. You've still added nothing. | ||
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JonnyLaw I don't like any of your post. I'm willing to let post like these + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 11:29 JonnyLaw wrote: I'll be out for a couple hours but I'll check the thread before I head to sleep. I don't want to clog up the thread with useless posts. I like storr's abrasiveness early. It moves our discussion along. I want to hear the response to balla's question. Looking at the TL profiles nyxnyxnyx is the only player clearly marked outside of North America. Make your presence known here town. Otherwise you're going to end up lynched and that's not a great start to the game. slip by early since we are still only a few hours into D1. What can I say? Oh well... he probably has nothing to go on.. This was my exact train of thought when I read these. I didn't agree with them but I also had a lot more to work with since I am coming into D1 half way through.But the problem is you make a lot of them. Like these; + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 13:48 JonnyLaw wrote: @cake Nah, I'm keeping that opinion to myself for a while. I'm not telling anyone how to play on day one. Nyxnyxnyx is active in lol subforum. I expect to see him post in the next few hours. It's an awkward time for him. @storr If you've played or obs'd newb games you'd understand his concern. This thread looks active and that's an oddity from what i've seen in the last two games. On October 30 2013 10:21 JonnyLaw wrote: I disagree that length of posts matter but posting actively and participating in the game does matter. That could be what he meant just phrased differently. That's exactly what we should be talking about at this point in order to form a plan for finding the scum in the game. What does this add to the game? Nothing. Also Nyx wasn't active... So you're plainly just fucking lying. Ontop of that, you bring arguements like this in; [QUOTE]On October 30 2013 16:45 JonnyLaw wrote: ##vote Vanesco Here's the beginning of the long posts. Vanesco repeatedly apologizes and brings nothing new to the table. Jumping on with Storr. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote: Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it... You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc). In this post he apologized where? And you outright lie about Nyx? K. Give me a # or I'm going to go ahead and tag you as scum since you called me out on PG 16. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote: Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it... You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc). Ok, so you re-post the SAME QUOTE in your post twice. I don't even understand. Why don't you just add your "early bandwagon" crap earlier when you posted this? Why do you feel the need to quote it twice? Remember he jumped on an EARLY bandwagon. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 11:40 Vanesco wrote: @cakemanofdoom All I'm saying is that onlywonderboy didn't really respond to StorrZ comment other than saying he doesn't agree. You on the other hand just talk about Storr trying to pressure Balla with no evidence (which is in my opinion is a justified play on page 1 of day 1). It just seems to me like you are trying to redirect off of Balla. I don't see any hint of a an apology in these post. I can only see Vanesco trying to reason out who his first lynch should be. Where the hell do you see any hint of hesitation or apology? All his post seem to be on point so far. You're pretty much trying to just drag up an empty argument against him and hoping that people don't read your screw-ball post. Well, short luck for you pal. I always break down post to the best of my ability. And your's look like crap. And again so apologetic. If you're not mafia what do you have to hide? + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 11:46 Vanesco wrote: @Obzy In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla. There are a couple more apologizing posts then this one jumping on poofter. I'm saying poofter/vanesco are both scum. + Show Spoiler + QUOTE]On October 30 2013 14:17 Vanesco wrote: Exactly Balla, I was just about to post about Tehpoofter. I would like to hear from him, even if he thinks he has nothing to add, it would help town. And you follow with.. FLUFF! You're only defense is Balla. And that's only the case because I have a strong town read on him atm. + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2013 16:47 JonnyLaw wrote: I want responses poofter and Vanesco. Sleeping and another game are fine since we still have some time before votes are tallied and we lynch. You really didn't even mention Poof in your post, why expect some responce from him after it? Nyx I don't think we should lynch Nyx yet. He played even worse the last game. I'm like 90% sure he's just playing a bad townie. + Show Spoiler + On October 31 2013 02:36 Vonthin wrote: Not sure Nyx is mafia, he did the same exact thing last game, hardly posted here and never gave good reasons on why he thought people were scum/voting for people. I want to see him post more to see if anything is different but so far seems like standard Nyx. The point Cake has though about posting on the LoL forums is valid though. And I'm not the only one to notice it. The only post he makes that makes me question it is the call for Vane lynch along with Cake. Cake looks terrible. Vane looks pretty townie to me. [spoiler][QUOTE]On October 31 2013 03:07 onlywonderboy wrote: nyx - I want to avoid a nyx lynch on day 1 at least. I really want to hear more from him to see if he learned anything from last game. My point earlier about him wasn't that he was quiet, it was that he's quiet so I can't really judge if he's trying to improve his play from last game [/QUOTE] | ||
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On October 31 2013 12:18 OdinOfPergo wrote: Sadly for you, while I haven't read your filter, I have read this thread two time now.. So if he read the thread twice already how did he miss my large post on poofter or the entire rehashing of what I said about nyx actively posting in hours that work with him timezone? Also, he wants to label me as scum because I said he's making excuses for not contributing to the game? On October 31 2013 13:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: What does this add to the game? Nothing. Also Nyx wasn't active... So you're plainly just fucking lying. In this post he apologized where? And you outright lie about Nyx? K. Give me a # or I'm going to go ahead and tag you as scum since you called me out on PG 16. Except now he's read the thread FOUR TIMES On October 31 2013 13:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: I've read this entire thead probably four times now to get everything that has happen since I was gone for so long. If he's read the thread four times by that point why is he so quick to say he's ready to change his mind at any moment? On October 31 2013 13:31 OdinOfPergo wrote: I came in late. I didn't have a ton of time to compile that post. I picked everyone who looked really scummy to me and made a case. I am subject to change said cases at a moments notice. So uhh he still hasn't read the thread in detail. This is in reference to balla asking him about my read on poofter On October 31 2013 14:06 OdinOfPergo wrote: @ Balla I can compile a post agaist Poof. I read his filter when I pieced together my argument on my scum reads. What is happening so far (bear in mind he only had like half a page so far. So I don't have a lot to work with.) He post almost entirely contentless post and trains on Cake. The content issue I have a problem with. The Cake train... meh not so much. I have big problems with Cake myself. But since you pointed it out.. Poof, explain your reasoning or I might change my vote. Still hasn't read the thread. On October 31 2013 14:20 OdinOfPergo wrote: I didn't see Nyx pop up on the LoL sub. Who stood out more than storr in the first few pages? Storr has a very unique formatting style. I'm just not buying this guy. He came in here with the intention of causing drama, flooding the thread with spam and throwing town into chaos. On October 31 2013 14:38 OdinOfPergo wrote: Give me a few minutes, I will try to get a post up on my reads on Storr with like 45-60 minutes. I don't remember much of him threw my initial reads. That does not boad well for him. But I can't say anything one way or the other until I go through the filter and build a case for/against. HE HASN'T READ THE THREAD On October 31 2013 15:09 OdinOfPergo wrote: So far I'm not sold on Storr. bear in mind I'm only at like PG 12. so far in the thread so maby he slips. Right now though from what I've seen is like a light townie read. I'm making a post on it right now actually. If you guys give me a few minutes it will be up for viewing pleasure. Quick summary. Odin is all over the place. He blatantly contradicts himself and pressures, then votes cake who will clearly not be lynched if he read the thread. He skimmed the posts and formed general opinions because he doesn't give a fuck who gets lynched. By his own admission he won't be here for another 24 hrs. So we have a spamming lurker on our hands. Kill the bastard. ##vote OdinofPergo | ||
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E00e I'm really not ready to lynch but it's better than no lynch. Same applies to July and nyx or even owb to a lesser degree. | ||
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Can you think of a better method to throw the town into chaos than supporting lynching a few players who already have mild suspicion on them? He's backing up claims so people keep their votes spread and we do nothing. If the guy is town he is clearly not helping the town to any degree of the word. He's counter productive and worse, he's a liar who cannot be trusted to have our interests in mind during this game. | ||
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Van's fine and my post on him, though poor brought up a nice discussion. Is yet another in reference to poofter? Because I don't see him getting 7 votes man. | ||
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If you cannot then vote odin. | ||
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Odin is actively hurting the town play. I am convinced this is our best choice and we can get a lynch. July I'm not even responding to you until you post something worth reading. None of you responded to what I wrote. | ||
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On November 01 2013 02:06 cakemanofdoom wrote: While I was also wondering about how much of the thread Odin has actually read, I think that it's too hard to lynch him right now. He can only post in bursts, which makes him hard to analyze... I'd rather wait a while so we can get a better read on him. Cakeman that's my whole point! Even if he is town he's not helping us at all. He actually hurting the town either way. Why do we need a better read when it's a win/win situation to lynch someone. | ||
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He clearly did not even read the thread and yet he posts as though what he is saying is a fact. How can that possibly help us to win the game? | ||
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After that he posted all right so why pursue it further? If july's mafia his play makes no sense. You're right though, storr says he'll give a read on cakeman and never does. "Watch for people sheeping obzy, balla's call to action about posting quickly, we must lynch day 1, i luv bw and obzy wants me dead oh well." That's basically the extent of his posting and I'm not sold on it being scum play. Odin coming in throwing out names and then voting cakeman who will not be lynched before disappearing for a day and half will never help us to win this game. | ||
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This lying, calling people out ignorantly and leaving on a cakeman vote when he cannot participate for an extended period of time is ludicrous play in my book. He literally claimed to have read the thread four times before saying I'm on page 12 I'll get there. Jumping to his defense makes no sense either balla. | ||
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There's no case being made against E00e aside from him not helping the town actively. If he needs one more vote in order for us to lynch him, I'm vote for him. But if we're going to vote for someone who is not helping the town I'm still saying Odin is our best choice. I'll be here until the voting deadline. | ||
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Well, I guess he can do that but it's the end of the road for him. | ||
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I'm an idiot. | ||
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That's why I included him at the end of the post. Poofter was always the guy I wanted pressure but I thought doing it by pressuring van could be more effective. He did respond. Then I made my case on him, which I stand by. I do not think I could get poofter lynched day 1 and still do not. When I read odin's filter this morning the amount of reads he posted without reading the thread and the lying made me believe that other people would easily jump on to lynch him. Similar to E00e I do not see him helping the town at all this game. Pressuring players makes them respond. Whether it reveals anything or not depends on the person. | ||
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July's probably a better lynch than E00e because he's just posting cryptic one liners aside from comparing me to a scum player in the last game. I still say July's the third best candidate behind Odin and poofter. | ||
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The other lurkers never gave such a commitment and OWB is hard to read with his activity level. He played that same way last time as VT and scum took advantage. He does post clear reads when he posts. | ||
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I know the case on poofter and why him specifically if we're lynching lurkers? You're just picking him because it's been the longest since his last post? @balla. Just as I said initially I am only pursuing it because I think we can make it work. E00e is becoming harder and harder to get through at this point. What do I need to to convince you this is the best lynch available today? I've stated my case multiple times and he's not pro-town even if he flips town based on the way he's playing this game. | ||
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E00e(3) Odin(3) JonnyLaw(1) Storrzerg(1) I think. | ||
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We need more from you. | ||
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@storr I said that because I've been saying to give you time to help us. I'm not salty about you asking for the votecount I just want some meat in your posts you know? As is, you could be lurking as casual scum happy to see me pushing odin hard. You've said you'd go over the filters during LoL queues. That's 10 minutes or so between games. What's your opinion on Odin? What was your opinion on July? You said you were reading that filter and it's very short. | ||
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Which lurker would you prefer to lynch in favor of Odin? Nyx? Owb? July? Storr? I've gone over the cases in my head a few times and reread their posting. OWB and Nyx are just difficult to read. July's posting doesn't give me a scummy vibe. I'm neutral there. Storr...I don't know at this point. I like the Odin lynch. Quick question for everyone. If you had control of seven votes who would you lynch today and why? | ||
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If july flips town what have we learned? Absolutely nothing. Even E00e is better because he condemned Odin so harshly. Storr is even better at this point. He's still failing to contribute anything useful. Fuck it, if we need 7th vote I'm doing it but I see no gain of information from July's shitposting. | ||
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Coming and derailing the thread is much scummier. Odin blatantly lied multiple times. I cannot stand that behavior and it seems indicative of scummy play. "Yo trust me, I read the thread 4 times but I'm still on page 12." Like I said as I reread the filters I'd be happier with a lot of other players at this point. | ||
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Are you kidding me Obzy? July's said whatever he wants all game not caring what anyone else has said about him. If that's not confidence it's stupidity if he's scum. I believe most players in this game are not stupid. | ||
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I keep asking and keep getting nothing in return except an attack on me. | ||
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Still 20 mins to go. | ||
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##unvote ##vote July617 | ||
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On November 01 2013 08:44 OdinOfPergo wrote: So maby pressure vote isn't the right wording here, but it's what I am using. It's really, "I'm going to change over to this since I don't think Cake is a good vote right now, I can either train along with everyone else or put it on Jonny." What does this even mean? I don't understand why you guys want Odin in this game. Explain it to me please. Cake was a priority first 3 hours of day 1. I read the thread four times my ass. | ||
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I asked a question earlier which you all ignored. @everyone Who would you pick to lynch tomorrow if you have seven votes Storr effectively shut down that question without anyone answering when there was a lot of time remaining. I want this answer and I want some substance out of storrzerg. Odin, I still want to lynch you. Never fear that changing until I see something real out of you. | ||
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Balla are you kidding me? @odin oh I'll talk now that you're here as well. Why do you say you've read the thread two times, four times and then throw out accusations and admit you haven't read the thread at all? You know arguments if you read the thread. | ||
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I asked the same question five hours ago and you ignored it. Answer the question. | ||
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You said we'd learn something and I did. I learned odin's probably not scum but you very well are scum balla. Joined the wagon late, as in your last two games. Try to discredit me. Woo getting interesting. | ||
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What's your answer then? | ||
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And fuck off, I said don't vote july you voted him. Now make it worthwhile. | ||
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You guys ignore what I say and go on tangents without explaining them. "july scummy" Look at my posts. WHY WHY WHY. | ||
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It's easy to say let's lynch odin, oh no obzy is right let's lynch july. Where do the rest of the july lynch train stand on the next lynch? It's a simple question. I appreciate your answer and sorry I missed it. | ||
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I asked you specifically what we need to do in order to lynch Odin and you didn't respond. You're town and you messed up. I don't know if he's worth pursuing beyond day one. We'll see soon. Day one we have a 25% chance of not killing a town player, 33% if you're counting in an SK. That's exactly why I said he's a detriment alive and he's a detriment dead. I explained this and you used it as a counter argument against my case and you lynched july. If you guys want to waste time evaluating me, then do it. Say something so we can move on. No one else has brought a case against a player then entire game except "he's not saying a lot." Do something. | ||
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Whoever said I was frustrated last night by the July lynch was correct. July's play was transparent and just plain bad. He said whatever he wanted when pressured and his best defense was "fuck off I'm town." Ehh...he didn't come off as stupid so that defense wasn't in line with him being scum. Oh well, what's done is done. When I get home I'll check the filters again. Particularly intrigued to see when and how people placed their votes. No one has addressed this issue and it's really the best reads we can get from that lynch. We need look at who joined the July lynch party and when. Examine these facts in relationship to their other posts and we can start to form a picture of the web that got July lynched and we can come up with a better lynch target for day2. If it happens to be me that you decide on after actual fact analysis, so be it. I'll look for myself soon and see what I can ocme up with here. In regards to cakeman. I don't know if he's scum or town but since the day 1 pressure that came from a couple shitty posts he's been improving his play and acts as though he's genuinely trying to catch scum. I'll check that filter along with the rest. | ||
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@obzy You didn't like my comment that Odin was our best lynch even if he was town because he doesn't contribute. There's a 25% chance we lynch scum day 1. On july I felt it was closer to 10% chance and on Odin closer to 50%. July's play made no sense from a mafia perspective. I don't know what you're missing here. @Van's post. His analysis is terrible. If you want to pressure a pair of people it's much easier to link them together and see what the reaction is in order to not create as much of a defensive vibe. Going straight and saying you're scum makes them consider their actions before posting much more than they would otherwise. I don't get how you guys cannot see this. Honestly, I'm getting tired of everyone here. No one makes an analytic read of the voting process at all. Do you guys even try to win? I gave some people in this thread of the benefit of the doubt. But, apparently I'm dumb enough to snipe someone who's calling me out. Oh well, I'm gonna read the filters and compare times. I'll post more later. By the way, Obzy you're awful at this game. | ||
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@obzy Oh yeah, why do you say that it's scummy for me to want E00e before July? E00e called out odin hard and fast. If he's scum odin isn't. It's simple. Sure I think Odin is scummy but again it's not 100% certain especially on day 1. At least there's easy info to be gained. They were both just clearly superior lynches and you were the deciding factor in getting july lynched. | ||
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You realize you're just taking the bait by trying to vote me scum. If you're scum, who better to kill than a guy who's making aggressive posts about other town players. I mean I have no problem being accused of scum you'd be silly not to consider all options. But, you're being misled by a simple play from the mafia players. | ||
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@storr Yeah, you're right. It's been a long week and my tolerance for people is very low at the moment. I'm not helping anyone by being so abrasive. Honestly I think Obzy's mad I said I told you so! I'm acting like an entitled twelve year old. I'll crack down and get something accomplished. | ||
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On November 01 2013 02:42 cakemanofdoom wrote: ##Unvote Tehpoofter ##Vote: July617 I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July. Remember he is the second player to vote for July. He's convincing us that people feel that way about July. This post feels wrong. I reread the thread three pages before this one. Balla wants to vote for me. I said I'd rather vote E00e, poofter or odin and also asked July to post something of substance. Obzy said he'd be "okay" with a july vote. Other than that and storr's vote there's not a lot of talk about July as a potential lynch candidate yet. Cakeman what made you think that more people were okay with the July lynch? You knew you had at least two other votes up your sleeve or what? | ||
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On November 01 2013 04:53 E00e wrote: As I said I will be around for now and I already said who I would like to lynch the most so I dont feel like my vote is important right now, but here it is: ##vote: OdinOfPergo That was five hours after Odin's first post in the thread. | ||
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Also, I think everyone in this game has called me scum at some point. I've been active and aggressive. | ||
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He calls me town after I waste everyone's time and clog up the thread for multiple pages arguing with obzy and balla. I don't like this at all. He says he's bad at the game and goes on a feeling voting for you. That seems very sloppy if it's mafia play. Some people do not express themselves eloquently. I mean, there's just not much to go on with this read. He's not the worst candidate for lynching. I'm going to reread a bit and see if someone stands out as a better choice. | ||
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Posting actively, pointing attention at players that are not yourself. Actually, your behavior is nearly identical. Last game you said bereft played the same town as he did in his first game. He was scum, so were you. When I brought up Odin, you said he played the same game he did last game where he was town and you were scum. Identical arguments. You said we get information when july flips scum. What's that information? | ||
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My point is if there is no mafia roleblocker then claiming to be role blocked as mafia makes a lot of sense. Why did you tell us you were roleblocked? What information does that add to help the town? From what I see it doesn't help us but that could just be a mistake. This is a serious question and I don't know why you're getting so defensive about it. | ||
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So if we know there's a mafia roleblocker then we learned that we have at least one blue player. That's all as far as I can see. At the same time it builds credibility for him and if there is no mafia roleblocker it's a very safe mafia play. That's my only point. I'm not accusing balla of anything but why blindly accept anyone as a town player who is not obzy? | ||
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@vonthin It was you who brought up July yesterday and said, oh okay it's fine. You flip back and forth on the same people for the same points. You sheep onto popular votes continuously. I know you said you don't have motivation but at least put some effort into your game. If you want clarification go read my filter from page 3 on. I just did and after July started posting I saw no reason to lynch him. I said maybe as a third option behind pooftah and odin then back off that claim even. | ||
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When in this game have I tried to blend in? It's strange that I notice the hosts have an error in the voting thread? I read it and saw cakeman listed twice. He was listed twice in the other voting post as well. It bothers me. His post goes on to say I think poofter's scummy, I made poor cases and defended cakeman. There's nothing else there. Tell me how that post summarizes your ideas because you're still saying nothing. | ||
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Either way, I liked your answer well enough for now. As for your question, I'm not certain. Probably E00e, nyx or owb as they're just too easy. Pushing for myself is probably smart because that's the only lynch aside from those three that will go through without a significant amount of work and sticking your neck out more than is necessary in this game. Vonthin's been pressuring those exact reads. It's easy, makes you look productive and does nothing else. Even if they're your scum allies pressuring one to contribute more then flipping off it early is easy. I'm withholding my vote for the time being but I should be around most of the day catching up on some work and gaming. | ||
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Yeah...wow. | ||
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I want to know if obzy will vote one of them. I'm not certain we can get 6 votes without him. I'm going to read their filters again before I decide where to place my vote. To be honest I'd vote storr as a last resort as well. He hasn't pushed the town in a direction that helps us much anyway. | ||
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Then shortly before the July lynch... On November 01 2013 06:31 Tehpoofter wrote: EBWOP: Hit enter too fast there. @July I really don't like your reasoning you gave on the end of page 26.... Like you wanted a safe vote??? How can you think that is a pro town move to not vote? You're on the chopping block bro convince us you're not the best lynch. Giving up and being defeated doesn't help town at all. On November 01 2013 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote: I really wish you would give us something. :/ On November 01 2013 20:41 Tehpoofter wrote: As far as July goes I really wish he wouldn't have given up at the end. That combined with his previous poor town plays didn't give me a reason to change my votes and unfortunately he flipped town and mafia had an easy day it seems. I don't usually like meta posts but I think this one is pretty important. If you are being lynched as town defend yourself, speak up! Let us know what you can do to help the town and why you our town, going quietly into the night doesn't help us at all!! RIP July. Acts very encouraging once the vote is sealed. Then apologetic after the voting ends. He's not really helping and has since disappeared again. ##vote Tehpoofter Guys, if you want to lynch a lurker please look at one who has posted scummy and is not just posting low content. Nyx seems genuinely concerned about hurting the town and OWB I'd rather lynch next day if we must. His excuse about the internet is lame as hell but whatcha gonna do? | ||
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I'd rather stay with him than move onto Von, but if it's an option that will go through I'm okay with that idea. @storr that's a great point about nyx but he's been getting that pressure all game. Do you think he's playing differently since the start? | ||
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We have two hours to vote according to yesterday's update right? Either way, guys we need a solid vote. Anything that's not Von, nyx or poofter might be too late. Please concentrate. | ||
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Neither of those will get a consensus at this point. | ||
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Poofter has three votes, need 3 more. Odin, Obzy, storr why not? | ||
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I do not want to switch to owb. I'd prefer Von or E00e. | ||
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Other than that I like it quite a lot. | ||
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Storr won't get lynched today. Drop it until day post at least please. | ||
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Where do you guys want to go from here? | ||
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Von, storr and cakeman are my best reads for scum. Odin maybe. He's unpredictable. Check em out if you have time. I'll look at their filters again before night post regardless. Owb and Nyx, I dunno. Someone make a better argument than has been made yet if you want me on the wagon. | ||
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On November 01 2013 09:04 iamperfection wrote: final vote count July617 (9): StorrZerg, E00e (1): StorrZerg (0): Tehpoofter (0): OdinofPergo (3): These are the important votes from day 1 in my opinion. When I came back and started railing on Odin so hard there was a real chance to have Poofter lynched. I failed to realize nyxnyxnyx and cakeman were for that lynch after my post and their own analysis. E00e, nyx and July voted for and stayed on Odin which means very little. I think E00e is town, cakeman null and this says nothing about nyx at all. Gonna be digging through filters for a while before the day post. Balla you or I will probably be shot tonight so make sure to say what is you have to say. I'll recheck the reads you posted earlier and see if I come up with anything else to add to them. Also, I fucking hate how owb is playing this game. It doesn't feel scummy but so little attention is in itself scummy by not helping us as town. I still don't want him lynched yet but we have 60~~ hours till next lynch. | ||
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I mean, I see where you're coming from with that point. Then poofter's vote is on E00e at some point so if he's caught it will draw attention away from himself. I think E00e's voting pattern is more significant. | ||
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Storr put his vote on july early and left it there. He gained credibility early by posting advice on how to play the game. Then by leaving his vote there it makes people look at july every time there is a vote post. "oh yeah July's an option." I'm poring over storr's filter at the moment. It's large. | ||
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Storr has some odd posts. I'll post a write up once i'm done so we can get some opinions for day 3. | ||
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On November 01 2013 06:55 StorrZerg wrote: Im really happy to see most of town pulling off the single votes, we still have 2 people, July and Odin who are both on the chopping block. @Jonnylaw if i was a day vig i would shoot you right now. you are disruptive on the vote right now when we only have 2 hours to go. you can switch focus to me tomorrow, but right now its not happening so stop trying to screw with town. That post really bothers me. This is right as I bring Odin to the forefront of discussion. It's not during the night phase arguments. I don't mind being questioned or accused but what is the motivation for saying this because I brought a new lynch target into the game? There was a lot of time and I thought I could form a good enough argument to avoid the E00e or July lynches on day 1. He's been chasing weak players all game. Posts huge segments on Nyx and virtually pressures july into collapse. Then this is the start of the owb train. On November 03 2013 05:08 StorrZerg wrote: OWB i'd lynch him today. Defends Nyx for bad reasons imo on day 1. So maybe they are linked. Votes of him and Nyx kinda link up on E00e. I'm halfway through the filter. I'm leaving this here for now while I read the rest. I don't want this to grow out of control in one post. | ||
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On November 03 2013 05:50 StorrZerg wrote: @tehpoofter why did you go on july, when Cake had all ready cast his vote on july? If you think cake is scum did you think it was a bus? I know its hard to answer that question after the fact when it is clear that july was town. How come you didn't' express your concern more about cake while voting on july? On November 03 2013 05:53 StorrZerg wrote: After finishing tehpoofter filter, yet another person who has yet to contribute to today. I actually don't' want to lynch him. I really liked the pressure he put on cake as well as his reasoning. my only problem, was he followed cake, to vote july. I feel if he was town he would have expressed more concern with following his #1 scum read onto the july vote. Honestly this is the biggest scum feeling i get from tehpoofter. If i take that out, i read him fairly town. This post reads incredibly scummy. He's "pressuring" poofter while at the same time he's really trying to alleviate our fears about him. Oh, this is why he COULD be scum but I don't think so. On November 03 2013 06:12 StorrZerg wrote: For now i'd lynch nyx, owb and i have far more people leaning town, who i wouldn't be interested in lynching today obzy balla jonny odin Vonthin tehpoofter null on cake E00e i don't think i missed anyone.. Like really? A few short posts before this he tried to say cake and I are a scum team and should be lynched. Why don't you follow up on this read when no one else latches onto it. Well, Obzy does on me but that's different. Nyx and owb are playing badly. I'll eat my shoe if they're a scum team together. All of these posts combine keep pressure away from poofter, vonthin and odin. Check page 6 of storr's filter he's still riding cakeman. Cakeman was poofter's final vote as well. On November 04 2013 05:27 StorrZerg wrote: instead of saying silly lynches. Why don't you post a defense for them? or explain why they are town. On the note that you cant' get a full read on them, do you think you would be able to get a full read on them if they continue with how they are playing? Why explain why those two are town? I don't know if they are. Why not look for someone who is not town? On November 04 2013 07:06 StorrZerg wrote: Why do inactives get a free pass in this game? How do inactives who are scummy not get lynched? Im in general attacking inactive people... I made a good case against nyx... its just kinda bonus he is being bad and inactive He's trying so hard to lynch lurkers on day 2. Lynching a lurker day 2 is so risky when we've made a solid case for poofter already. You're fucking right it's a bonus. It worked for July why not for nyx? On November 04 2013 08:02 StorrZerg wrote: ##Vote: onlywonderboy as a placeholder at minimum Storr wanted to lynch nyx then votes owb. IT WORKED FOR JULY WHY NOT FOR OWB AS WELL! Storr then goes on to vote poofter and unvote him then revote him. On November 04 2013 09:02 StorrZerg wrote: well i look a little stupid now :/ Still willing to go on OWB No shit you are. This is at @owb On November 04 2013 09:46 StorrZerg wrote: What about myself? or Cake? (the only other 2 you could vote for that have votes on them) No one wanted to vote for cakeman except poofter. On November 04 2013 10:05 StorrZerg wrote: tbh, i couldn't imagine this kind of push to bus a partner on day 2 with plenty of other options to lynch. Might be more clear now on why Vans was lynched. Setting up cake/jonny is possible (more so on making jonny clear today than cake imo) DING DING DING Who went on myself and cakeman day 2? I'll answer that question. Storrzerg! It looked like I was going to implode with obzy and balla so it was easy pressure. He quickly backs off of questioning me at all when it's clear balla and I are having a good ole time scum hunting. | ||
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On November 04 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote: [/b][/blue]JonnyLaw (0): onlywonderboy (1): StorrZerg (1): nyxnyxnyx, Vonthin (1): nyxnyxnyx (0): Tehpoofter (7): JonnyLaw, Balla24, cakemanofdoom, OdinOfPergo, Cakemanofdoom (1): Tehpoofter Day 2 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00). If there are any errors please let us know. Looks like von and storr are trying to get away from poofter, but want to do it gently. As if we have another option. It's not great play though because I think Balla, cake obzy and I were clearly not going to move. Maybe if Odin had gone with them. You want scum pairs? storr/vonthin (most obvious, almost too obvious) storr has never mentioned von in a post. Like ever, not even once from what I read. storr/nyx or owb or E00e those three are all neutral to me. They could be town and based on voting patterns I'd say are likely all poorly performing town players. storr/odin I put this right behind the vonthin read. Yeah there's a pattern in my scum team reads. | ||
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storr/von seem most likely but lynching von makes a lot of sense. @owb No one's dropped off nyx but his voting patterns and pressure make no sense from a mafia perspective. I don't think you're scum yet but give me something to work with here man. There's time to spare in your day somewhere to read the thread. Balla and I have done all the work already. | ||
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@owb that's a good question. If you want to lynch Von in light of recent activities then update your argument for today. | ||
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I don't like your cryptic you won't be killed smiley post though. Why not just respond to what I said about you. Your play is worse than July's or Nyx or Owb at this point. You want to lynch the lurkers yet you post and never say anything. All I get out of you is arguments which throw the town into confusion. Stop the cryptic argumentative bull shit and say who you want lynched today, respond to my posts on you and what are you opinions of Vonthin are as of now. | ||
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You might be town and you've said you're busy playing video mafia. I know you're capable of more than a quick fuck you. That's why I didn't join Obzy and balla to lynch you day 1. I think you can help town but are actively choosing not to do it. | ||
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You're not new to this game. You're not stupid. Help us win this game. What do you think of Vonthin and Odin at this point in the game? I don't care what you think about nyx, owb or E00e. | ||
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I was the one backing you up when others said you want to be active. I'm not calling you nit picky. I'm just asking questions that get no answers. And I know we cannot lynch someone "today." Today refers to next day phase. I think that's fairly obvious why hit on semantics and not answer my questions? | ||
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TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof) TT = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather T = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather, Serial Killer (Investigation Immune OR 1-Shot Bulletproof) 0 Ts = Goon + Roleblocker + Godfather These are the only mafia set ups available if balla is town. SK hasn't shown his face yet if there is one. Or we have a medic who got a proper night save. This discussion is fruitless in my opinion since no one has blue claimed. We could have a cop, dr or roleblocker but I'm thinking it's mostly vanilla town and no sk. Hard to say though. This discussion is fruitless for now so lets drop it please. | ||
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I'm heading home soon so I'll be around again before the night post to respond to anything else. | ||
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@obzy Your reads have been helping the town. I should not have raged at you. As I said, a long week for me. Of all of the posts I write then delete that's the most regrettable. @storr Why give up? If you're town, give us something. No one is committed to lynching you. I'm not letting you off this easy. What "weird shit" did odin post? His first day was the worst day. On November 05 2013 08:12 StorrZerg wrote: I had a town read on odin, until he started doing weird shit and then starting going on the lets lynch storr train As for vonthin, he makes the most sense as scum for a person to be picked for their voting for previous 2 days imo. And why von's voting pattern when it mirrors yours? | ||
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GL Town! Can I get an obz qt? | ||
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JonnyLaw
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On November 08 2013 12:26 Hapahauli wrote: As mafia, it's not enough to just "blend in". You have to create chaos. disrupt the town, and create a terrible atmosphere for anyone to be productive. If you sit back and let the town talk amongst themselves without pushing your own agenda, you're just going to get run over. It's definitely tough, and I understand that playing as mafia can be really stressful, but you'll be come much better as mafia when you learn to relax and post a bit more freely. This is exactly how Odin came into the game and the reason I wanted to lynch him so badly on day 1. Nice job guys, I would not have wanted OWB lynched. Killing Van and me helped the town more than anything I think. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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Obzy I hope no hard feelings. You played well I was just frustrated with the game and my schedule and lots of nonsense. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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On November 08 2013 15:51 GreYMisT wrote: I was happy to watch Vonthin play via the QT. initially he was downtrodden and afraid to enter the thread, but hopefully some of my advice stuck and he seemed to enjoy things. He also developed a really good habit of taking notes on his current thoughts. Good work. Vonthin's play and posts accelerated in usefulness throughout the game. Nice job to both of you. @nyx Yo man, just post more. Your voting and one liners allowed me to believe you rolled town but you failed to answer the question why on several occasions. I can't speak for anyone else but that's what I saw in the game. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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Not a lot there. Waveofshadow + jonnylaw qt. | ||
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