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On August 22 2013 23:47 Oatsmaster wrote: except kush's posts that Onegu pointed out are jokes rayn. I dont know which post you are referring too. I dunno, this post of kush that Onegu calls out doesn't seem like a joke to me: On August 21 2013 23:41 Onegu wrote: Yeah so he attacks me and FT. First FT first post was fine and I got a townie feeling from it not scum. And for me you attack me for no reason, I was already getting attacked from a few people for makeing posts that only add my thoughts to a existing arguement which is fine, but you jumping on me for this post when someone was talking about me disappearing is scummy. Also you say you are ok with a WoS lynch just because its good for rayne or lolz rayne is wrong. Then you say its a bus if WoS scum? Why do you feel that way? About Koshi/WoS, i am referring to this post: On August 21 2013 21:08 Koshi wrote: Let me recap how I see this WoS case on rayn. So guys I wanted to look into The Snowman but i cba. Geript is a really cool guy and understands me completely. So, I made a post to bait rections but I have still no clue about how I am going to interpret those actions. That cool guy geript made a good point on Crazy though. But let's not go too crazy about Crazy because he is new. Another really really cool cuz is mkfuba07. He gets me completely except everything he said is wrong and I am just a VT. But didn't I really fake being blue well? So, because I faked being blue so well I am going to tell my scumread rayn that I am actually just a VT so he can go and search after the real blue role for the first nightkill. So rayn is scumhunting and is also trying to get the vigi shoot me. This means that town loses 2 blue skills. Rayn is so certain I am a blue role that I will get roleblocked and in case I am the Veteran I will die this night anyway. But let me tell all of you this 28 hours before deadline because as a VT I really don't want to get RB+shot at me in the first night because that would be so bad for town. But WAIT I actually don't have a bluerole and rayn knows this!!!! So he plans ahead and already gives the reasons I am going to give to defend myself as a VT. But WAIT AGAIN Why would I want to give the same reasons anyway? So joke is on him. I don't make a bad opening post two games in a row. + Show Spoiler + Except I did. But guys this time to see reactions. Please ignore that I actually don't follow up on those reactions at all So please discuss why rayn is scum guys. Because this case is full of shit and I know it. DP I am looking at you to help me out here. | ||
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Also everything Onegu says in his post is spot on. I think he explains himself well enough. Yes i am asking how WoS' defense makes sense to you. | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:13 Oatsmaster wrote: Its insane. WoS does insane shit. I think its town insane. So Onegu says that he disagrees with kush's conclusion on FT. He never says the reason why. He only says his own opinion and therefore kush is scummier for it. Bullshit. And then kush gave this reason that Onegu is scum. Which is a perfectly fine reason and something I mentioned. And onegu defends it by posting this Kush's reason is hardly no reason. I mean, Kush is being an asshole but Onegu thinks its scummy to be mad about his constant 'whining' and disappearance. I dont see how any of this is 'spot on' at all Rayn. What the fuck. For me his thinking is pretty clear. He agrees with FT's reasoning (i do aswell, that was a good post imo), kush calls the same post out and never explains why the post is bad and that's scummy. That's how i understand Onegu. kush calls Onegu out for not having a single thought of his own. Onegu clearly thought on N0 he gave his own thoughts whether or not they were following the thread sentiment. I do not know what's wrong with that? Like i know that's what Onegu did at the start of the game, does that make his scum? In GoT it didn't. After that he has had thoughts of his own, for example the post about FT he quoted. And his read on kush. I do not know how this makes him scum? Can he not think kushmasta is mafia for things he has said? | ||
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He calls me out for being mafia bluehunting ONLY after mkfuba gives him the seed. As i already said that is in the first place fishy because it was just discussed in GoT a couple of days ago. WoS hosted that game. He knows what has been in thread. Clarity and Xatalos called me out because i said i do bluehunt as town aswell (which is true). I was scum in that game. Does this not ring any bells? | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote: So WoS as scum didnt answer you because of what reason Rayn? Since his 'town' reason is bullshit. Why did he do it as scum? I have already explained it. He in fact DID answer me. He answered me "how is my play different than in CCM". I never asked that. His answer was clearly a "look, i am playing to my town meta and i can prove it". That's defending himself for something i never brought up. When he realized what i was in fact after, he did not know what to answer. | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:48 Oatsmaster wrote: So you are saying that as scum, WoS decided to emulate his town play in CCM, a drastically different game that was like 2 months ago and when that failed, just shut the hell up? Does this sound anywhere reasonable? Why would WoS as town do this: - Do anti-town shit - Do more anti-town shit he knows will flip me out - Call people out who call out his anti-town play - Make a retarded case against me based on me calling out his anti-town play - Retract from his only conclusion he he made from N0 - Distract half of the players completely on N0 - Refuse to answer on anything asked from him after that - Do absolutely nothing so far on D1 WoS is not stupid as town either. | ||
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On August 23 2013 01:00 kushm4sta wrote: Yamatooo. I'm not sure if that one good post in the beginning should get yamato off the hook for being completely absent this game. I supposed I could lynch him. Geript. Absent and stuff. Not involved in anything. I suppose I could lynch him. Crazy. Smurf pretending to be noob? He came back to save himself from modkill so yeah I could lynch him. Koshi. Could lynch him. I asked you about this earlier. Why do you not want to lynch WoS any more? What made you change your mind? I agree with your reads on yamato and geript. | ||
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On August 23 2013 01:03 Sn0_Man wrote: As far as I can tell, the only people who put any stock whatsoever in your case on WoS are you and Kosheep. WoS's early game play may have been dumb/questionable but I really don't see it as scummy. This is another answer that makes me think you are mafia. Can you see why? | ||
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Okay, why was WoS' answer he gave me good enough to you? | ||
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On August 23 2013 01:59 Sn0_Man wrote: rayn why is asking questions of everybody non-stop without providing any new or interesting info something you consider acceptable to do? Last I checked you aren't Socrates. Judging people based on their opinion of me isn't easy  I'm too emotionally invested in the answer for it to be a reliable way for me to rate people. Obviously people who call me scum look worse to me because I know I'm not scum. People who call me town are right so I'm more inclined to agree with them on other things. That is simply how stuff works. A topic on WoS that I can speak to is his opinions on Crazo. Crazo felt like real lynchbait and people pushing for his lynch consequently (to me) looked scummy (geript, wos). However, re-reading Crazo looked like maybe he received a bit of "coaching" (aka scum-qt hints and tips) which would explain a lot. On the other hand, it does still look like WoS and geript were pushing an easy lynch that could still easily be "the easy mislynch". Queue WIFOM about scum being afraid to start a mislynch. Still leaning town on WoS. At least he is here and posting and most of his posts look town-motivated. Why can't you answer my question? It's a really simple one. FirmTofu's thought process has been very clear throughout the game. FirmTofu is much less involved in the game when he is town. He tries too hard as mafia. Here he is being clear, his explanations on things are good, his thought process is easy to follow and makes sense. There is nothing scummy in his play. Why are you not pushing my lynch or trying to question me in any way? At N0 end i was your top scumread. I am still pushing WoS lynch, who you think is town (while in your post you give reasons why he could be scum rolf). Instead of pushing / questioning your top read you soft push Koshi. Then you make a fail case on FT. Then you bring up three more suspects without telling why they actually are mafia. What are you trying to do? What is your goal in giving the town 5 suspects on who to lynch and dropping your top scumread without any reason? | ||
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On August 23 2013 02:33 Sn0_Man wrote: My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner. The thing with vayne is that townies ignore him for the first phase unless he has something good to say. Then he gets copped because he is hard to read early on. So you do not want to make a case on me because you think you can't get me lynched? How are you supposed to win this game as you think i am mafia? Actually, make a case. I'll answer it all in one post, no more, unless you want me to explain something. | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:01 VayneAuthority wrote: Unless he has drastically changed his play, this doesn't look like les mis (where I was scum with him) nor does it look like his endless amount of town games. As scum he looked really town and cared a lot about what people thought about him. As town he always fights tooth and nail and isn't this passive. Throw in how he played in basterd ( didn't give a fuck because he didn't want to get night killed and then could fight lynches retroactively if things were looking bad during daytime) Does this not look like that? I disagree with your meta-read. In Les Mis WoS was evenly cocky as in this game. That's something he lacks as town, especially early on in the game. There are also some charactreristics that repeats when he is scum but never when he is town. When (argueably) the strongest player posts the first time he goes "Hey X, thoughts on...?". One thing that always happens when he is town but never when he is scum is "Policy lynch vayne". | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:26 Sn0_Man wrote: Yes. Boardwalk Empire. I've seen town do it too, but none of them take the attitude that "I know i'm not acting townie but anybody who suspects me is obv scum". HAH! WHY IS WOS TOWN? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID ON N0! ##Unvote: ##Vote: Sn0_Man ezpz! | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:29 VayneAuthority wrote: I could give him one more phase, it's not like he can get away with just not posting. He has to do stuff eventually. What are you thinking about yamato right now? geript? yamato seems somewhat scummy but i'd give him more time. He's been quite useless but i have seen him do that as town too. Him being around at night when the game started and posting for two hours suggests that he is town (meta). I think geript is scum. I have explained my reasons for my read throughout the game. I'll make a post about it when needed, but for now i do not think he is the best lynch. snodude just pretty much claimed scum. | ||
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