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On August 20 2013 20:17 yamato77 wrote: Explain how you don't understand that survivor claiming doesn't help them at all. Explain why you and Oats are so eager to tell anti-town roles how to play? | ||
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I propose a survivor claim. If there is a dumb enough survivor to claim, it helps town. I have a pro-town proposition and you immediately tell the survivor to not claim. Why? If someone had claim survivor, it would have helped town. If not, so fucking what? It does not change the fact that my proposition is pro-town and your immediate response is anti-town. | ||
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Can you answer me Oats & yamato? How does what you said help town? Do you think my proposition did somehow harm the town? | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:30 yamato77 wrote: What does "helping town or not" have to do with alignment? You have yet to make that connection, even if you think you were being pro-town. lol. Can you see how dumb your question is? Townies try to help town, scum do not. On August 20 2013 20:28 yamato77 wrote: Finding out who the survivor is does not help town, at all, but whatever. I guess you're already in the "too-dumb-to-be-scum" category. If someone claims survivor, how exactly does that not help the town? We just figured out one player who is definitely not town. Did you roll scum again yamato? | ||
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If i ask for the survivor to claim there is no downside for the town: 1) Nobody claims, 0 downside, 0 upside 2) Someone is stupid enough to claim survivor, the possibilities are: - They are really dumb mafia (so not really a possibility) - They are really dumb SK (so not really a possibility) - They are a survivor. Then we can assume there is probably not a SK in the game. We then judge them later on (are they helping town or not). If they are not, we lynch them, if they are - mafia needs to kill them (not kill a townie). What i do not understand is why people feel the need to tell non-town roles how to play (a same situation occured in GoT when Clarity/Xatalos basically told mafia roleblocker to claim JK - or "that would be the only thing they would accept"). I see no point in it. There is basically no town-motivation in giving the "correct" answers to anti-town roles in the first place and i don't see why people do it. For reference, Oats in his post implies Survivor is anti-town. It's clear from what he says. Why does he want to give anti-town people advice on how to play? | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:51 yamato77 wrote: Mafia doesn't have to kill the survivor to win, either. It's like you don't understand that they are completely impartial. The point isn't that we're telling them not to claim, it is that they won't claim and asking them to is actually just a waste of time. The name of the game is mafia, because you're trying to find and kill them, not the survivors. That's why i included it in a post that actually said something useful too. Also that's why i do not understand why people jumped on that part of the post so heavily. If it does not provide anything bad, why comment on it at all? | ||
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I am still honestly a bit curious about Oats. He clearly thought survivor is anti-town role as he said so in his post. I understand your thought process but not his. I would also like to hear what makes me scum in his eyes. | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:13 Oatsmaster wrote: uh what? That doesnt make any sense rayn. Survivor doesnt want to help town. Survivor gains no benefit from claiming. Survivor doesnt need to claim rayn. At all. It gains them nothing to claim n0. And probably means they lose the game. I think this is pretty clear way of saying "survivor is anti-town". no? | ||
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Why is this not an upside: "We then judge them later on (are they helping town or not). If they are not, we lynch them, if they are - mafia needs to kill them (not kill a townie)." ? | ||
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On August 20 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote: I was talking more about the self aware miller part. Dnu. Survivor shouldn't claim if he wants to play his role like that. Also your point about if we know there is a survivor we know there isn't an SK is really scummy rayn. Cuz SK is scum their problem. I want to know how your thought process went: "I think survivor should claim" "I think survivor should not claim" "If i was survivor i would claim in my first post" Also how is SK more of scum's problem than town? | ||
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