Basterd Mini Mafia - Page 80

On July 04 2013 02:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
no JJD.

at least I really hope not.

Sorry for getting back so late, but it looks like a lot of you figured out my role already. I'm Hans Landa - German Survivor Jailkeeper. No jail last night, since it really didn't look like I was going to be NK'd, and after that shitstorm with marv/rayn/lazer/etc there were likely better vigi shots.

He accepts that weve found him so easily... and acts as if nothings changed. Also If your jail keeper, why not use your ability? Makes no sense, at the very least with a mass role claim on the way you can lend credence to your claim and maybe earn some town favour.

If WoS is telling the truth, then it looks like scum has a roleblocker and saw him as possibly blue. If he's lying, then... he's scum.

This is worthless, he basically says hes either scum or town... how remarkable.

To make up for the Vayne lynch a bit (that came way too close for me :S), I'll offer that I, at least, didn't get a fake claim. It feels like if scum had been given fake claims, then I would have gotten one, since this setup makes massclaims really likely, and it feels like it's gonna be really hard to walk that line between town and scum.

This is interesting, why does he feel so sure that scum dont have fake claims? The exact wording is as if hes throwing town a bone, though why would survivor so confidently know that scum get no fake claims? Either way hes not lying because if hes survivor he has no reason to lie and if hes scum why would he assume survivor if he had a fake claim? What we can take away from this is that Marv is probably not scum. Because this effectively confirms that they're are no fake roles either way. Though well be sure when we see Fuba flip.

Oh yeah, marv, I thought I responded to your questions in my nested post. You asked what the contradictions were, and I answered it, and you asked what the "possibly scummy but sometimes townie" elements of stutters' filter were, and I answered that too. Lemme know if there's something else I missed. And if you could actually comment on what I wrote, that'd be great, instead of doing what everyone apparently does with my posts and skimming it, saying nothing, and pulling it out when they're strarving for scumreads.

This is a great big ball of nothing. He basically says Marv sucks and tell him to back and read other stuff not relevant to this current situation.


Also, though I didn't have time or necessarily the inclination to comment on it before, I'm pretty reasonably convinced you're town. Rayn's later posts about you were giving me a similar feeling to the post by oats I brought up earlier regarding rayn himself. There was an incredible amount of confirmation bias going on that even I could see, and I agreed with him that in that situation it was scummy for you to be suspicious of lazer. I also think your responses were in line with townie marv. I can't explain away the main reason for the scumread, since I still think the logic is for the most part sound, but with the clusterfuck of claims this thread's become at the moment, it's hard to analyze anything clearly.

Says he considers Marv town, though he didn't bother saying it before, and doesn't provide reasons why now, in fact he only mentions something he found scummy about Marv. Then casually flings doubt on Rayne reads and complains it's too hard to analyze anything right now.

It *is* clear, however, that there's something fishy going on with the claims, though I cba to find out what it is at the moment. I haven't slept in almost 48 hours, my brain is slowing to the speed of a snail, and I almost passed out 4 5 times while writing this post. I'll be back tomorrow, gonna need like half a day of sleep... Read what I wrote about stutters, and tell me what's actually wrong with the reasoning (not just marv, but anyone who actually disagrees with it).

Says he finds something obviously fishy fishy but doesn't follow up in anyway. Then he says he wont be able to provide any analysis today, then he tells the whole thread to go and look at something thats not really relevant anymore.

On July 04 2013 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
See scum?
Look at what I do for you, I shut down discussion, and this is how you repay me?
Shameful, sirs.

On July 04 2013 05:33 marvellosity wrote:
gumshoe, just reading through now, but - if WoS was survivor he wouldn't know if he was roleblocked, unless he tried jailing rayn.

On July 04 2013 05:42 gumshoe wrote:


I dont know, but looking back his play is way more indicative of survivor than Fuba. Also maybe he did get roll blocked on Rayne, hes implying that he has had some kind of connection with scum. Getting blocked on Rayne might just be it. Aside from that he might have some power we dont know about thats put him jeopardy. Point is Fuba has claimed survivor but has effectively stated it means nothing. On the other side of the spectrum we have WOS who gives the impression that we know nothing and that our names are all Jon snow. WOS also doesn't tell us everything because it's not in his interest to, hes trying to win not just get through the day. Fuba comes clean (literally considering they're is nothing to reveal) because hes just trying to survive one day.

Also claiming survivor in this game is a death wish because town has no doctor. With no vig in the game and an easy role block on Lazer Landa is the biggest threat to scum. Hes trying to fool them, not us.

On July 04 2013 05:48 marvellosity wrote:
gumshoe, if fuba is mafia, and given roleblocks aren't notified, why do you think he claimed jailing no-one instead of someone? For example, he could claim to have jailed Jarjar?

On July 04 2013 05:52 marvellosity wrote:
Why would we not believe him jailing Jarjar?