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On June 27 2013 15:09 Adam4167 wrote: Gah. Nevermind. I have discovered a flaw in my logic.
Continue going about your business. post it so we laugh at you please School is boring, i need some interesting stuff.
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I'm going to be honest here, as much as I may not gel with Oats playstyle, the discussion that the 3 of us were having yesterday would be very hard to fake as scum. It was freeflowing, and neither of them felt on edge or like they were withholding anything.
I don't think hes it.
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So Adam, are you going to tell us what you found?
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On June 27 2013 15:19 cDgCorazon wrote: So Adam, are you going to tell us what you found?
Nah, I was jumping at shadows.
I miscounted the votes on D1, leading me to a false conclusion.
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Awww .
So cora, on a scale of 1-10, how bad is your tunnel on me?
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On June 27 2013 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Awww . So cora, on a scale of 1-10, how bad is your tunnel on me?
What is 1 and what is 10?
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On June 27 2013 15:29 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 15:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Awww . So cora, on a scale of 1-10, how bad is your tunnel on me? What is 1 and what is 10? 1 means its a good tunnel 10 means its a bad tunnel.
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53 instances of 'GK' in Rayns filter and not a single comment on his alignment.
The more i read, the more I just keep coming back to him.
If we don't hear about him being replaced soon, then I want him to be the default lynch today. We're coming up on a full cycle without him now and i'm starting to get irked by this.
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ooo association reasons.
But yeah I would not like him around at lylo, and it kinda looks like the game is going that way.
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On June 27 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote: So do i wanna lynch someone who has been posting regularly, and is active, over someone whos only redeeming factor is the hammer on DP. I dont think so at this point. You have been smart enough to figure out my alignment in other games, why are you taking things that arent alignment indicative and saying that they are scummy? I could say the same thing of you. You cite inactivity as a reason why you want to lynch me, even though we just played a game where I had a 1 page (1 page!) filter day 1. It's hard to figure out your alignment because you are trying to direct us into lynching people who were on the DP wagon which is absolute nonsense. I'm trying to figure stuff out and it's possible I might be grasping at straws, because that's honestly what I'm doing. Everyone looks town. I'm trying to find tiebreakers. If it means I target your nonsense, then that's that.
On June 27 2013 13:30 Adam4167 wrote: Sloosh, last time you spoke of the issue (me vs Oats), you were siding with Oats due to 'my lack of anything substantive'.
Did the conversation last night between me, oats and Hapa change your opinion on any of us?
I was siding with him because I thought the points brought up against him were weak. The conversation shows that you are comfortable posting (which is something you tend to struggle as scum I guess?), which gives a stronger town read on you. I know nothing of Oats' scumplay, but I'm taking your word on the "relaxedness" of your dialogues.
Which swings things back to GK. Maybe that is the correct lynch, and we are trying to pick at ourselves when we are all town. In either case I totally agree with Oats that he isn't someone who I want at LYLO.
##Unvote: Oats ##Vote: goodkarma
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Well i said I was down to either you or OO, and the useless one dies. Or GK. If GK doesnt show before I wake up tmr, hes dead.
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D1 Oats <---> Cora
+ Show Spoiler +On June 21 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:11 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 14:10 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 14:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 13:59 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote: In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read. Until goodkarma was scum last game yet no one listened to us :D Hi Syl. How do you feel about these shenanigans going on between the rest of us? Does anyone have merit in their votes/arguments? I never take the first 6-12 hours seriously unless there's something that resembles a scum slip. Everyone is just trying to pull stuff out of thin air as a case just to generate discussion, and even though I think some of the cases are just plain wrong (eg. what I just said about Hapa's 'case') it doesn't actually say anything. In any case, hipster voting is cool but everyone cries and you get labelled as scum who can't decide on wagons most of the time -_- Well eventually I'll get lynched so many times for playing my own style as town so people will stop labelling me as scum for hipster voting. why dont you change your playstyle so you dont get lynched? On June 21 2013 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:16 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 21 2013 14:11 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 14:10 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 14:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 13:59 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote: In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read. Until goodkarma was scum last game yet no one listened to us :D Hi Syl. How do you feel about these shenanigans going on between the rest of us? Does anyone have merit in their votes/arguments? I never take the first 6-12 hours seriously unless there's something that resembles a scum slip. Everyone is just trying to pull stuff out of thin air as a case just to generate discussion, and even though I think some of the cases are just plain wrong (eg. what I just said about Hapa's 'case') it doesn't actually say anything. In any case, hipster voting is cool but everyone cries and you get labelled as scum who can't decide on wagons most of the time -_- Well eventually I'll get lynched so many times for playing my own style as town so people will stop labelling me as scum for hipster voting. why dont you change your playstyle so you dont get lynched? Cause I can't really change who I am...no matter how much you want me to. Sorry. dick. On June 21 2013 16:00 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 15:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 21 2013 15:56 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont understand why you are so angry cora.
I'm not angry you're just being irrational and I'm calling you out for it. and? Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 13:53 cDgCorazon wrote: Agree with what Hapa says, I do. Cloudy and hard to see, the dark side makes it. Behind the cloudiness, I think Oats is.
##Unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster
And that. Oats, I'm sure I've had trouble being able to tell in past circumstances, but when you're antagonizing Cora a little bit here, is it in a joking manner? I think that's been a theme with you this game as well, joking around? Was that a motive to taking some jabs at Cora's playstyle? (It's just a touch of hypocrisy [jokes! but not really, but really]
I don't see anything here to point towards reasons for blocking Cora unless Oats thought Cora was a vig and going to shoot him.
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On June 25 2013 17:40 Adam4167 wrote:Sloosh, here is my solidified post as to why I think Oats is scum. First, look at Oats attitude towards the GK ragequit post. He goes from: Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 10:45 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont think gk's post is alignment indicative, hapa immediately unvoting is REALLY FUCKING ODD. Martyring isnt alignment indicative, and if gk stays alive to lylo, is he benefit to town? no because even as town he gave up. SO KILL HIM.
I don't think its alignment indicative. Add in casting suspicion onto Hapa for a legitimate unvote and also apparently knowing that GK gave up 'as town'. To: Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 10:55 Oatsmaster wrote: Hapa, I just saw what I feel is a scumclaim. A SCUMCLAIM.
A SCUMCLAIM. In 10 minutes. His justification is: Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote: I changed my mind hapa, I currently think that town would not have martyred in the best way to not get himself lynched. Like all the other people selfvoting havent been so thought through.
I don't think a townie would ragequit in a way that makes himself look this townie, therefore its a scumclaim. Read that again if you have to. I do not buy this explanation one bit. Look at his attitude towards me. He has been hammering me since I got in here, and utterly refuses to listen to anything I put forward about why I am not scum, nor does he listen to why other people think I might be town. I gave a legitimate response for why I was not playing up to my Duel mafia standards, for which he had no rebuttal. He then uses the same argument again as a reason I am scum when discussing with OO. This kind of blatant disregard for anything coming out of your targets mouth is scummy. You know they're making a point that you cant argue, but you keep harping on it anyway. The one time he shows some form of insecurity in his read towards me? The post he votes me in. That is scummy. If you're sure I'm scum, as he damn well appears to be, drop your vote, call me scum and start convincing everyone else of your viewpoint. Instead, its this: Show nested quote +On June 25 2013 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote adam
Because the last time as you have quoted I tunneled people, against many people, they flipped town. Is it like that again?
"Last time I tunneled someone to death against what everyone was saying they flipped town. Is that happening again?" This attitude does not gel with voting someone. He's apparently reconsidering yet voting to kill me in the same post. Inconsistent. Scummy. I already went over this before but ill go over it again. I called him out for not having a vote for me. He felt insecure and the need to correct that perceived wrong so he slapped his vote down as soon as he could. One minute later, he's saying "Votes dont matter man", so why did he vote in the first place if they don't matter! He realized he made a mistake and tried to downplay it. If he felt votes didn't matter, he would have responded to my first post with "it doesn't matter now, ill vote you later in the day after the discussion is over", but that isn't what happened. Adam, this makes sense to me but how do you reconcile that inconsistency from Oats is scummy when Oats is by definition inconsistent? Can you see a case for Oats literally spending this entire game reaction fishing (my term for it, not sure what to actually call it)?
I believe it could be possible, however unlikely, for him to adapt his town style to this game if he's the last remaining scum. That means his agenda will always be his own and not of his teams, so being his town self (random, inconsistent, scummy-looking) would be to his benefit here. The problem with this theory is that he's been doing it the whole game. I can't identify a transition from team mentality to solo-Oats mentality in his filter.
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Before you go "I don't want this guy at LYLO," maybe you should visualize how the rest of the game might transpire first? Like who are you going to lynch and when? Hapa was discussing coming up with a plan (if I recall correctly anyway... filter-diving too much effort.). Maybe that's what scum feared most?
In any case it makes the game much easier if truly scumteam didn't bus day one. That means you lynch Adam, Oats, and me in whatever order you want and you win. I'm still inclined to run with this scenario for the time being though idk maybe it's wrong. Of those the guy who probably would be most likely to not concede in a lost scumgame would be Oats.
##Vote: Oats
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Vote Count Oatsmaster (3): cDgCorazon, slOosh, goodkarma, Coagulation goodkarma (1): slOosh Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) in .
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Reread the whole game. + pg 55 ~ 63
Only thing going for Oats is his ability to post "naturally".
##Unvote: goodkarma ##Vote: Oatsmaster
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On June 28 2013 01:42 ObviousOne wrote:D1 Oats <---> Cora + Show Spoiler +On June 21 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:11 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 14:10 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 14:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 13:59 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote: In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read. Until goodkarma was scum last game yet no one listened to us :D Hi Syl. How do you feel about these shenanigans going on between the rest of us? Does anyone have merit in their votes/arguments? I never take the first 6-12 hours seriously unless there's something that resembles a scum slip. Everyone is just trying to pull stuff out of thin air as a case just to generate discussion, and even though I think some of the cases are just plain wrong (eg. what I just said about Hapa's 'case') it doesn't actually say anything. In any case, hipster voting is cool but everyone cries and you get labelled as scum who can't decide on wagons most of the time -_- Well eventually I'll get lynched so many times for playing my own style as town so people will stop labelling me as scum for hipster voting. why dont you change your playstyle so you dont get lynched? On June 21 2013 14:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 14:16 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 21 2013 14:11 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 14:10 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 14:00 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 13:59 Sylencia wrote:On June 21 2013 13:49 Hapahauli wrote: In all seriousness, I do want to policy lynch Oats. Every game I've played with him, he's contributed to a toxic town atmosphere by tunneling obv-townies beyond the point of reason. I'm all for killing him until I find an actual scum-read. Until goodkarma was scum last game yet no one listened to us :D Hi Syl. How do you feel about these shenanigans going on between the rest of us? Does anyone have merit in their votes/arguments? I never take the first 6-12 hours seriously unless there's something that resembles a scum slip. Everyone is just trying to pull stuff out of thin air as a case just to generate discussion, and even though I think some of the cases are just plain wrong (eg. what I just said about Hapa's 'case') it doesn't actually say anything. In any case, hipster voting is cool but everyone cries and you get labelled as scum who can't decide on wagons most of the time -_- Well eventually I'll get lynched so many times for playing my own style as town so people will stop labelling me as scum for hipster voting. why dont you change your playstyle so you dont get lynched? Cause I can't really change who I am...no matter how much you want me to. Sorry. dick. On June 21 2013 16:00 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 15:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 21 2013 15:56 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 21 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont understand why you are so angry cora.
I'm not angry you're just being irrational and I'm calling you out for it. and? Show nested quote +On June 21 2013 13:53 cDgCorazon wrote: Agree with what Hapa says, I do. Cloudy and hard to see, the dark side makes it. Behind the cloudiness, I think Oats is.
##Unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster
And that. Oats, I'm sure I've had trouble being able to tell in past circumstances, but when you're antagonizing Cora a little bit here, is it in a joking manner? I think that's been a theme with you this game as well, joking around? Was that a motive to taking some jabs at Cora's playstyle? (It's just a touch of hypocrisy [jokes! but not really, but really] I don't see anything here to point towards reasons for blocking Cora unless Oats thought Cora was a vig and going to shoot him. Cora blueclaimed, and we kinda discussed it, so not too hard to think whoever scum was to think "well I don't have anyone else in mind".
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On June 28 2013 02:31 goodkarma wrote: Before you go "I don't want this guy at LYLO," maybe you should visualize how the rest of the game might transpire first? Like who are you going to lynch and when? Hapa was discussing coming up with a plan (if I recall correctly anyway... filter-diving too much effort.). Maybe that's what scum feared most?
In any case it makes the game much easier if truly scumteam didn't bus day one. That means you lynch Adam, Oats, and me in whatever order you want and you win. I'm still inclined to run with this scenario for the time being though idk maybe it's wrong. Of those the guy who probably would be most likely to not concede in a lost scumgame would be Oats.
##Vote: Oats
Yeah we lynch you because your only reason for lynching me is because you think I wont concede. COME ON. ##vote: GK
All the people voting for me, give reasons. This is because when I flip, town has something to go on. Telling people to look at my filter and pg X-XX is not helpful either for me to defend, or to show whether you think im scum or you are scum bandwagoning me.
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On June 28 2013 08:19 slOosh wrote: Reread the whole game. + pg 55 ~ 63
Only thing going for Oats is his ability to post "naturally".
##Unvote: goodkarma ##Vote: Oatsmaster fucking lazy vote. Sloosh dont be this bad. Explain.
On June 28 2013 02:31 goodkarma wrote: Before you go "I don't want this guy at LYLO," maybe you should visualize how the rest of the game might transpire first? Like who are you going to lynch and when? Hapa was discussing coming up with a plan (if I recall correctly anyway... filter-diving too much effort.). Maybe that's what scum feared most?
In any case it makes the game much easier if truly scumteam didn't bus day one. That means you lynch Adam, Oats, and me in whatever order you want and you win. I'm still inclined to run with this scenario for the time being though idk maybe it's wrong. Of those the guy who probably would be most likely to not concede in a lost scumgame would be Oats.
##Vote: Oats Again, you are voting me because out of Adam or me, you think adam will concede. Thats the weakest reason ever. Ever. Give better ones.
On June 28 2013 03:07 Coagulation wrote: ##vote oats and coag. If you guys dont put any effort into playing the game, guess what happens tmr? You flipped me and now you are still confused as fuck.
Come on.
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