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Maybe it's because you replaced in Adam, but did you forget how close the DP lynch was?
Here's how it plays out in my mind.
Game is not over. There is an anti-town element in play, most likely 1 scum member.
So someone has to be scum. Here's what I have to swallow to admit that person is scum.
Coag: Voted DP, and shot rayn.
OO: Was main pusher for the DP lynch, was main choice of target by DP.
Cora: Is a scum doublevoter who rb'ed himself with a co-host confirmation
Oats: Is not considering any of the things I am at this point of the game. Also very natural / whatever.
Adam: Sounds reasonable and has overcome scared play.
GK: pulled the biggest jerk move ever and emotions etc.
Logically speaking, that you would disregard how D1 went is a big outrage. You are saying that whoever it is, chose to vote godfather experienced scum DP when marv and Hapa gave many many outs to voting GK instead.
Emotionally speaking, that GK would do what he did as scum is a big outrage. It's unsportsmanlike (in my eyes) to the highest degree. I thought about this more, (heck I looked up all his other games for meta help, but I guess that falls under SFA)
On June 16 2013 11:02 goodkarma wrote:
Well, anywho, I figured I'd outline some of my thoughts on this game.
"Replacement" Shenannies
I definitely did make a point of "milking" my status as replacement. I bet that Marv comes in here and says that's unsportsmanlike, but it was definitely the right move as far as I was concerned. I replaced in at night, and immediately I had identified Hapa as the only real threat to getting me lynched early. BH I felt would be sore from misreading me last game. And everyone else I felt wouldn't be taking the lead in determining who should be lynched, especially with Axle and Shao looking so "townie." As such, I knew that when Hapa had been removed I'd be in a spot of relative safety.
Is it easier to accept a logical outrage rather than an emotional one? For me, yes.
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Pshh
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OK, We've gone over that logical line a thousand times and it keeps bringing us back to the same place. The place where our reads conflict with our logic.
If everyone on the apparent confirmed DP wagon is town, then use that 'confirmed' status instead of posting once a day! If everyone on there is town, theyll have nothing to hide about us poking around and asking questions.
Instead I am getting "NO YOUR GETTING LYNCHED SOON, STOP QUESTIONING THE RULING ELITE AND DIE QUIETLY"
Its bullshit.
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Dude, morale is a huge part of the game. Maybe it's your personality, maybe it's because you replaced in, maybe it's because you are on the chopping block, and maybe it's the vice versa for the rest of the crew, but being lazy doesn't necessitate scum.
And lynching based off activity levels is foolish. And lynching based of arbitrary levels of effort is also foolish.
Since when does something like motivation trump reason? I bet you, if you asked all the players after D2 that if you could choose to win or lose the game by simultaneously lynching into Hapa / Adam / Oats / GK, every single person would have taken that deal. And I bet if you ask each person that same question now, they would still take it.
What's more to give? What's more to do? It's all said and done. If you want to off GK first, honestly, I'm not that adverse to it.
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Yea, I'm not arguing that your situation sucks. Don't get me wrong.
It's just that there has been, in my recollection, no honest, logical thought out process detailing why it might be the case. The bastion of logic holds strong, and nothing apart from conspiracy theories have been aimed at it.
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Hey guys, I'm here. Any questions? My list, in order from scummiest to towniest, is:
Scummy:
Oats
GK
Soft Town:
OO/SloOsh
Town (or due to setup):
Adam
Coag
Me
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Like, "could Coag be SK?" was a question I've personally considered (and shut down), but never brought up in thread.
"Could there be scum doublevoter given 2 3rd party elements" was a question I've personally considered (and shut down) but was never brought up in thread.
There's honest ways of opening up such avenues of discussion. All I've seen are "player X hasn't posted in such and such a time".
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On June 28 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah.
Why am I scum cora
Don't ask this again. Get off of your lazy ass and read my filter.
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On June 28 2013 13:04 cDgCorazon wrote:Don't ask this again. Get off of your lazy ass and read my filter.
Why am I scum?
get off your lazy ass and quote your filter, including posts after the 25th of June.
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Its ALL of those things. Yes i'm on the block. Yes I replaced in. Yes its my personality.
I HATE losing as town. HATE.
This attitude of "Oh we're done here, lets just clock out", is exceptionally weak.
I ask you this: You lynch Oats today, Lynch GK tomorrow, they both flip town. You're going to lynch me after that, in spite of everything I have said and done in this thread. That one vote was the only defining action in my play and now i'm destined to my fate regardless of anything I say? Is that correct?
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On June 28 2013 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 13:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 28 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah.
Why am I scum cora Don't ask this again. Get off of your lazy ass and read my filter. Why am I scum? get off your lazy ass and quote your filter, including posts after the 25th of June.
Yes, you would just love me to ignore your scummy play in D1 and D2, wouldn't you?
I'm not going to repeat myself, and the 2 other people voting for you obviously don't need me to repeat myself.
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On June 28 2013 13:08 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:On June 28 2013 13:04 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 28 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah.
Why am I scum cora Don't ask this again. Get off of your lazy ass and read my filter. Why am I scum? get off your lazy ass and quote your filter, including posts after the 25th of June. Yes, you would just love me to ignore your scummy play in D1 and D2, wouldn't you? I'm not going to repeat myself, and the 2 other people voting for you obviously don't need me to repeat myself.
I would love it if you put in any effort into this game at this point of time.
sloosh isnt gonna lynch me today.
Coag is a qtpie who is slightly off the rockers.
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For the past 3 days, you have been saying
"oats scum, look in filter"
Thats absolutely IT, and its not good.
Not at all.
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I really would rather lynch Oats than GK first because GK's martyr-ing does look town, no matter how scummy his play has been.
If Oats flips town, it looks really bad for GK (among others, including me) because he just popped in, voted Oats, and peaced out again.
After that, the choice would be narrowed to 2 or 3 candidates and it would make the last lynch the most important/easiest due to less unknowns. Not to mention the fact that there will be 4 or 5 days of voting evidence and posts to look at.
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On June 27 2013 13:17 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cora, how fucking more lazy can you get?
You havent posted anything of use past n1. Its day 3. Cause you've done zero to change my opinion on you since N1.
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Am I not open to discussion? Am I not still putting in effort? Am I not here still willing to read and post?
Do you really think I'm so lazy, so apathetic that I'm on autopilot? That these voteshifts of mine are just jokes to give whomever false hope?
Engage me. Give me something to work with. I know it exists because I've played with it myself in my head, I just haven't heard it from anyone else here (or I missed it, or it's from Oats whom I have natural distrust with).
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On June 28 2013 13:13 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2013 13:17 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 27 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cora, how fucking more lazy can you get?
You havent posted anything of use past n1. Its day 3. Cause you've done zero to change my opinion on you since N1.
because you are tunneling.
You know, everything someone says can be from a scum perspective. Its your job, to find things that make you think this person is a different alignment from you.
I dont see you doing any of that.
Cora you wanna be a better player?
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On June 28 2013 13:14 slOosh wrote:
Am I not open to discussion? Am I not still putting in effort? Am I not here still willing to read and post?
Do you really think I'm so lazy, so apathetic that I'm on autopilot? That these voteshifts of mine are just jokes to give whomever false hope?
Engage me. Give me something to work with. I know it exists because I've played with it myself in my head, I just haven't heard it from anyone else here (or I missed it, or it's from Oats whom I have natural distrust with).
Can you expand your OO read?
I dont like setup speculating about a closed setup.
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On June 28 2013 13:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 13:13 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 27 2013 13:17 cDgCorazon wrote:On June 27 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cora, how fucking more lazy can you get?
You havent posted anything of use past n1. Its day 3. Cause you've done zero to change my opinion on you since N1. because you are tunneling. You know, everything someone says can be from a scum perspective. Its your job, to find things that make you think this person is a different alignment from you. I dont see you doing any of that. Cora you wanna be a better player?
I have not been tunneling you, I've voted for 3 other players besides you.
You continue to play the same scummy way that you've played all game. It's your job to look town to make things easier for others.
I dont see you doing any of that.
Oats you wanna be a better player?
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Vote Count
Oatsmaster (5): cDgCorazon, slOosh, goodkarma, Coagulation, slOosh, Anonymous
goodkarma (1): slOosh, Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) in .
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