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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 01:12 GMT
#2001
Who I want at Lylo?
Me
Adam
Coag
Then I lynch adam for the win.

You see, this is kinda useless.
No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2013 01:22 GMT
#2002
Why voting GK and not OO?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 02:00 GMT
#2003
Because apparently GK wants to start playing. But then he posts that bunch of bullshit/useless stuff. And disappears again.
Why arent you voting for OO?

No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2013 02:15 GMT
#2004
Why would I?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 02:17 GMT
#2005
because he isnt confirmed town?

I dont know whats with you.

I assume you are either gonna vote me or Adam, so why do you have reasons?

Can you elaborate on those reasons?
No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2013 02:53 GMT
#2006
Sure. Out of the three, you make the least sense.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 28 2013 03:01 GMT
#2007
Do you seriously think that Oats would shoot Hapa, the main person keeping him alive?

There's WIFOM and then there's just plain stupid.

I sincerely doubt a Scum Oats would back himself to close out this game on his own when he could have got a step closer with Hapa barking at everyone that called Oats scum.

Nope. nope. nope. I would have been overjoyed to be in this situation 72 hours ago, but no, this isn't right.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 28 2013 03:10 GMT
#2008
On June 28 2013 02:14 ObviousOne wrote:
Adam, this makes sense to me but how do you reconcile that inconsistency from Oats is scummy when Oats is by definition inconsistent? Can you see a case for Oats literally spending this entire game reaction fishing (my term for it, not sure what to actually call it)?

I believe it could be possible, however unlikely, for him to adapt his town style to this game if he's the last remaining scum. That means his agenda will always be his own and not of his teams, so being his town self (random, inconsistent, scummy-looking) would be to his benefit here. The problem with this theory is that he's been doing it the whole game. I can't identify a transition from team mentality to solo-Oats mentality in his filter.



Yeah. Oats reactionary play style this game pissed me off initially, hence why I said I was happy to see him die (and I was still sour from smurf, if you couldn't tell). I'm not all that familiar with Oats scum play, having only played half a game with him when he was scum. In regards to specific scum tells, I don't know that he has any glaringly obvious ones. I default to Hapa in regards to Oats meta, his meta reads are usually very solid.

Also, hes just not... careful enough. His justification for why he panic voted me was 'because its funny', for example.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 28 2013 03:11 GMT
#2009
On June 28 2013 02:31 goodkarma wrote:
Before you go "I don't want this guy at LYLO," maybe you should visualize how the rest of the game might transpire first? Like who are you going to lynch and when? Hapa was discussing coming up with a plan (if I recall correctly anyway... filter-diving too much effort.). Maybe that's what scum feared most?

In any case it makes the game much easier if truly scumteam didn't bus day one. That means you lynch Adam, Oats, and me in whatever order you want and you win. I'm still inclined to run with this scenario for the time being though idk maybe it's wrong. Of those the guy who probably would be most likely to not concede in a lost scumgame would be Oats.

##Vote: Oats


OK, great. So you were reading the thread this whole time.

Who did you jail last night? Why?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 03:20 GMT
#2010
On June 28 2013 11:53 slOosh wrote:
Sure. Out of the three, you make the least sense.

least sense = scum?

What?
No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2013 03:23 GMT
#2011
Sure. Scum have to twist reality to get town killed. You can't twist without relaxing logic, and so you will make less sense.

You were advocating to lynch between OO and me. Two critical components of the highly contested DP wagon. How does this make sense? Why can't a townie do the basic math?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 03:26 GMT
#2012
On June 28 2013 12:23 slOosh wrote:
Sure. Scum have to twist reality to get town killed. You can't twist without relaxing logic, and so you will make less sense.

You were advocating to lynch between OO and me. Two critical components of the highly contested DP wagon. How does this make sense? Why can't a townie do the basic math?

Oh my.

Apparently you didnt read the part where GK is basically a policy lynch, and i think adam is town.

THERE IS NO ONE LEFT.
COME ON DUDE.

Can you say seriously that You are more townie than adam disregarding the DP lynch?
No gg, No skill.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2013 03:27 GMT
#2013
Like, you have done nothing to convince me why I should move my vote onto GK. In fact you basically disregarded talking about GK back when Hapa and I were talking about it, instead going on about surefire scum Adam, and today you totally ignore him and have gone onto other people. Where are you scumhunting?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2013 03:27 GMT
#2014
OH OK I GUESS WE DISREGARD CRITICAL PIECES OF INFORMATION BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 28 2013 03:29 GMT
#2015
Ok Oats. One last chance. Order all the players remaining in game from townie to scummy with 1 sentence for each one.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 03:29 GMT
#2016
OH OK I GUESS WE ASSUME GK IS TOWN AND WORK FROM THERE.

You should lynch GK because he doesnt want to play, and he cant be alive at lylo because when players who dont play are alive at lylo, things normally work out that well.
No gg, No skill.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 28 2013 03:31 GMT
#2017
Why are you so blind to the possibility that someone bussed?

A single vote, a townie does not make.

You guys made your DP vote on D1 and have sat back and done SFA since. I feel like i'm sitting here talking to Oats and myself there rest of the time.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 03:32 GMT
#2018
Oats: 16 page filter
Adam: sheep hapa+interactions with him feel natural
Cora: day 1+RB + meta
OO: dont know really, null, he needs to fucking post.
Sloosh: for wanting to kill me this game even though he knows how I play as town. Tsk.
GK: Not playing the game, also wanting to kill me because im least likely to concede.
What.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 28 2013 03:32 GMT
#2019
Coag is up there for claiming vig and not being counterclaimed.
No gg, No skill.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
June 28 2013 03:46 GMT
#2020
I mean OO is so out of touch with the thread his fishing up cases from 48 hours ago on someone that I've since ruled almost surely town.

I asked for reads on all 3 of us in the apparent 'lynch pool of death' and I got nada. Some waffle about Oats antagonizing Cora on D1.

If you're town, do you think the level of activity and effort in this game has been acceptable in the last 72 hours? There's only one answer here.
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