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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:30 Umasi wrote: What about you spicy. Do you think scum bussed day one in that close vote? Not sure, initially i felt they didn't. The lone flip will help clear up some answers though. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
What benefit was there to scum bussing that would outweigh one of their own getting lynched? | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:40 Umasi wrote: A follow-up, because I obviously think that they did. What benefit was there to scum bussing that would outweigh one of their own getting lynched? Long term play for cred. I would see it more as a salvage operation than the plan from the get-go. They saw firere was boned so they did what was best for them. I don't think this was their plan from the beginning though. This is the only benefit I would see. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
If the scum had just sheeped onto gotard, they could have hidden behind xzav and I, because xzav made the actual case and I'm the scummy sheeper. It would have been incredibly easy for them to just point at xzav and move on. | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
I think they didn't bus him. | ||
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Spicydinosaur
United States382 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:40 Umasi wrote: A follow-up, because I obviously think that they did. What benefit was there to scum bussing that would outweigh one of their own getting lynched? [QUOTE]On June 11 2013 07:57 Umasi wrote: you mean you're not sure he was or wasn't bussed, because I'm not trying to convince you he was haha. I think they didn't bus him.[/QUOTE] Wait what? After the vote I didn't initially think scum bussed firere, now I'm not sure. Where are you going with this? | ||
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fferyllt
United States317 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:34 Umasi wrote: Fferyllt, do you think scum bussed day one? I am going to ask everyone this, just so you guys know. Feel free to answer. There's nothing against answering this question, and it won't incriminate you, and it's not like it'll misdirect attention from me or anything so feel free to just TALK. I don't know. In a true newbie game I would say not likely. This is not a "true" newbie game. There is a wide variety of background and experience level in this game, and I'm not sure I have everyone's level of experience pegged. I'd expect no more than one additional scum on the Firere wagon, though. I'll be shocked if all three scum were on the same day 1 bandwagon tbh. | ||
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Gotard
Poland446 Posts
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
I was correcting what you said because it made no sense gramatically. This entire time since I've talked about the vote, it's been about how I don't think they'd bus, that's been a staple part of it. Therefore, Xzav, Umasi, Lonemeow, and Firere (the ones on gotard) are likely to be scum. If even one more person had voted scum from the firere wagon, Gotard would have been lynched, and probably mislynched, I really think gotard is town because firere was mafia. Therefore, since Firere was scum, it means Lonemeow, Me, and Xzav could be mafia, if we assume there wasn't a bus. IF THEY DIDN'T BUS, FIRERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LYNCHED. Now I have a strong townread on Xzav, it only wavered when he said he'd post and then didn't. It's back up because he's posting like his day one self, which was very pro-town. That means LoneMeow or I is scum. I know I'm not scum. That's why I'm voting Lonemeow. There is a possibility Yavanna was scum and/afked, so she never voted! The couple who were not on firere or Gotard, if they had voted gotard, would have saved scummate Firere. The scum team could have hid behind the case Xzav made, and possibly framed him. if he turned out too townie, they could easily have framed me, because everyone thinks I'm generally scummy. So if there are two scum left (which I'm pretty confident in because of the setup and past newbie games), and we can lynch out of Lonemeow, me, xzav, or Yavanna, who do you think the scum team is? Is that perfectly clear to literally everybody. If it is not clear, please read again and make it clear. I think it was extremely explanatory. If you don't think it's true, come up with a good reason scum would bus day one when they could have saved their teammate and hidden behind a scummy townie or xzavs case. I'm not discounting this possibility! Fferyllt, I'd be shocked if they DIDN'T go all in to save their teammate. Just so everyone knows, I might as well reiterate, since no one likes reading what I say, I THINK THE SCUM TEAM IS LONEMEOW AND YAVANNA. AND I'VE SAID THIS EXACT SAME THING, ALMOST EVERYTHING ABOVE, AT LEAST THREE TIMES, AND PEOPLE STILL AREN'T RESPONDING Even if you don't think it has merit, you could at least say so! But if this were true, and I think the logic behind it is sound, we know the scumteam, or at least the pool of players it could be. | ||
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote: Why? Make a case if you have a good read. I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative. On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: How exactly is asking for someone to explain how reasoning behind a scum claim scummy? At the time I asked for Umasi to present a case he seemed to be playing very emotionally instead of thinking logically and I hoped he would either present a logical case that could help me understand his reasoning for the claim or calm down and realize how weak his claim was. Exactly what was your purpose behind your request to Umasi? Were you giving him a friendly advice or were you genuinely interested in hearing a logical case of Umasi against iVLosK! You just threw a comment, "Make a case then." You were neither actively involved in the beginning of the game nor were you standing up for iVLosK! with a proper reasoning. + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote: Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!? On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: The posts you quoted contain Firere345's scum read on iVLosK! which I was asking about, trying to both get a second opinion on my own read on iVLosK! and to see Firere345's reaction to get a better read on him, seeing how little he had posted at the time. As for your interaction with Firere345, why him? He literally only said this, "Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction" so far in the game. Mind you, he didn't fucking say iVLosK! was scummy. He merely agreed with Umasi. Well, Firere345 turned out to be a scum.. Do I need to further explain my suspicion? + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote: Once again, he keeps asking for case on iVLosK! that he neither support nor argue. He seems little too eager to hope on a bandwagon given the chance though. On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: This is just a continuation of the earlier, Umasi still hadn't really presented a logically sound case and seemed to only be prepared to drop his attack on iVLosK! based on the "consensus" at the time, not because he had changed his own opinion. Like why the FUCK do you care? Did you think iVLosK! was a scum? Did you feel like Umasi was acting scummy? Were you pressuring Umasi? Were you going to agree with a logical case on iVLosK!? I mean if you want a case on him so bad, why don't you get your fucking ass in the game and go through his filter and posts. Another thing, convince you? Umasi didn't even ask for your agreement. He pretty much ignored you. (I don't even think he knew you existed to be honest..) Convince you? Just really awkward and suspicious to me. + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote: I can go much more in detail. On fferyllt direct question, he once again slip passes. Nothing definite that will hurt him later. No concrete background to support his claim. Either he is as lazy as I am or he doesn't want to give anything away. I might add who is your top lynch candidate. On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: The question by fferylt isn't a direct question to me if you read the context, and it's just objectively scummy to fish for opinion without even naming the suspect like that. I'm not sure what you meant by "no concrete background to support his claim", as I didn't make a scum claim, I simply pointed out that fishing for opinion is scummy. Why do you only addressed the third part? Also I can understand where you're coming from but what exactly are you doing? You haven't made a single case. You haven't really revealed any of your scumread so far. Just out of nowhere goes what fferyllt is scummy. Well, what do you think about other thing she said. Are those scummy or townie. wait.. did you skip my address on your second part? Wait wait wait, you responded to my address on your first body as if I was commenting on your third body? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GUY PLAYING AT!! Write a long ass respond to my case on you, skip from parts to parts, and  This is what you skipped. Mind responding to this? On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:Gosh, LoneMeow's comment on Yavanna is just plain weird. Maybe it's just me but even though Yavanna hadn't made a scum read until then but he(or she?) gave couple of town reads on people involved around iVLosK! conflict. She cleared herself pretty well when asked why he(she) is being too nice. In contrary, LoneMeow hasn't made a real opinions of his own. And again he doesn't antagonize Yavanna. + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote: Even though I have no idea what Gotard did but I can guess a little. It seems Xzavier, who is viewed by majority as town, pointed out something minor about Gotard and Gotard, who wasn't as active as Xzavier immediately engaged him with a vote and scum read possibly. (Correct me if I'm completely off the track) So what Lone Meow decides to do is basically say, "Oh this guy (Gotard) is doing something that is suicidal. He is likely a scum. But wait, this is too suicidal to be something a scum would do. He might be a townie after all." Lastly, his scum read on Firere345 is just plain weak. It seems to me as when he was asked he had to make a reply so he picked one of the lurker. He can probably further On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:Essentially you're saying that my case on Firere345 was weak (well, yes, it was, I even said that much myself later) and that my defense of Gotard was scummy - however as it turns out Firere345 was mafia and Gotard seems likely town by the vote distribution, so I'd say this only makes you look slightly suspicious. Yes, I'm saying that your case on Firere345 was weak. You were messing with Gotard and decides that Firere345 is scummy because he was lurking? Dude, what about me or tE_?AND YOU ENDED UP VOTING FOR GOTARD AT THE END!? Facepalm.. this guy.. Another thing, where did you exactly admit that your case was weak? Sorry, I can't find it in your posts before this. This is to you all. True, I'm a tunneling LoneMeow (hard) but I have a good reason for it. I didn't post a case on LoneMeow to get more information on him and I didn't do it to see other people's reaction to it. I purely did it, because in my head he is the most likely candidate for mafia. I'm also risking my own safety. I pretty much singled him out from other lurkers and I was first one pushing a case against him. I'll take a full responsibility for his death regardless of the result of flip. | ||
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
Umasi, breathe. I see where you are coming from. I did read all of your posts. Let us see what LoneMeow flips. Let us see what happens to Yavanna. No need for you to get all worked up. | ||
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fferyllt
United States317 Posts
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
As in, let's pretend gotard is mafia, and he votes for firere, that is a bus. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
Thank you for clarification. | ||
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fferyllt
United States317 Posts
##Vote Lonemeow | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
LoneMeow (6): fferyllt, StiMaDDict, Gotard, Umasi, Xzavier, SpicyDinosaur Umasi (3): Onegu, LoneMeow, iVLosK! Not Voting: Yavanna LoneMeow is currently set to be lynched. Voting is mandatory. Not voting is a crime and we hate criminals. This is a plurality lynch. The day ends on [unparsable timestamp format] (in [unparsable timestamp format]) If there's a mistake, let me know! | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18219 Posts
Night 2 ![[image loading]](http://media1.break.com/breakstudios/2011/12/29/decapitation.jpg) The vampires woke up to a gruesome scene. Their favourite love interest had been staked! Now they lusted for revenge!!! In their blood frenzy they tore through the town of Stickinthemud. "Who killed Sookie?!!" they yelled. LoneMeow was with them. But someone pointed at him anyway. "Hey", he helled, "you don't look like a vampire! You don't have the dopey emo hair and dark clothes!" "Errr, I didn't know there was a dress code?" "He's a soldier of the sun!!! Kill him!!!" And so it happened that LoneMeow, the Vampire Townie was decapitated. Yavanna, Mafia Godfather has been modkilled. It is now night 2. Send your actions to all of the hosts. The deadline is on [unparsable timestamp format] (in [unparsable timestamp format]) | ||
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fferyllt
United States317 Posts
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