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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 15:34 GMT
#1641
On May 21 2013 00:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 23:52 s0Lstice wrote:
JarJar, how did you read DP prior to the BH scumslip and why?

Was leaning scum. I wasn't crazy about how he misread my meta or how he was so quick to believe BHs claim. Not sure why he thinks he was "the towniest motherfucker in the game"

And this is fucking stupid. I don't think I've thought DP was scum at any point during this game and the tunnel of BH makes him even more so since he's actually doing it with clear thought and intention.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 20 2013 15:34 GMT
#1642
On May 21 2013 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 00:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:05 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
please


I'll re ask my question that got buried before the BH slip.

Dandel if you thought that sputnik should be vig shot and not lynched then why vote at the last second for the lynch?

On May 19 2013 21:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 19 2013 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
The weirdest thing about Dandel that I noticed is when he gave a bunch of names he could lynch, sputnik wasn't one of them, when it seemed he would fit on the list he made.

Becaue
1) I find him mildly amusing
2) he's hyper-lurking which should be dealt with by vigshootings/host KP


consolidation

he still was a better vig shot than lynch

but your vote wasn't necessary

you are american, how dare you say this

every vote counts for FREEDOM
A backwards poet writes inverse.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2013 15:35 GMT
#1643
On May 21 2013 00:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
No I read the slip, but despite BH's actions the fact that you are still completely 100% sure that he is scum doesn't make sense to me when we fucking Dandel just fucking taunting us all game.


Do you think taunting is a good mafia tactic?

Do you think his behaviour has in any way indicated that he is playing for the town?


wasn't my question
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 15:37 GMT
#1644
On May 21 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 00:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
No I read the slip, but despite BH's actions the fact that you are still completely 100% sure that he is scum doesn't make sense to me when we fucking Dandel just fucking taunting us all game.


Do you think taunting is a good mafia tactic?

Do you think his behaviour has in any way indicated that he is playing for the town?


wasn't my question

I don't know dandel so for him it could very well be. I know scumBH does it.

You going to answer my question?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2013 15:38 GMT
#1645
Probably not, no.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
May 20 2013 15:43 GMT
#1646
On May 21 2013 00:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:05 Spicydinosaur wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
please


I'll re ask my question that got buried before the BH slip.

Dandel if you thought that sputnik should be vig shot and not lynched then why vote at the last second for the lynch?

On May 19 2013 21:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 19 2013 05:45 marvellosity wrote:
The weirdest thing about Dandel that I noticed is when he gave a bunch of names he could lynch, sputnik wasn't one of them, when it seemed he would fit on the list he made.

Becaue
1) I find him mildly amusing
2) he's hyper-lurking which should be dealt with by vigshootings/host KP


consolidation

he still was a better vig shot than lynch

but your vote wasn't necessary

you are american, how dare you say this

every vote counts for FREEDOM

your leaving a lot to be desired if you are town.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 15:45 GMT
#1647
On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
May 20 2013 15:52 GMT
#1648
The continued absence of grush is making me think more and more that he really didn't like having starsenses dragged out of him.

So I've been through the filters multiple times, I'm left feeling like the scum are in the following group: BH, grush, dandel, jar jar, GK. BH for the slip, grush for what I just said, dandel for his continued desire to do nothing to help the town, JarJar for his suddenly appearing scumread on a pretty town DP, and GK because his meta cases have been bad to the point of being fabrications. These reasons are coupled with process of elimination via town reads.

The last two are pretty interchangeable right now...I still wanna see how JarJar and GK behave in day 2, and to be fair I had a townread on JarJar before this little exhange we just had. Now I'm not so sure.
ATOBTTR
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 20 2013 15:58 GMT
#1649
On May 21 2013 00:52 s0Lstice wrote:
The continued absence of grush is making me think more and more that he really didn't like having starsenses dragged out of him.

So I've been through the filters multiple times, I'm left feeling like the scum are in the following group: BH, grush, dandel, jar jar, GK. BH for the slip, grush for what I just said, dandel for his continued desire to do nothing to help the town, JarJar for his suddenly appearing scumread on a pretty town DP, and GK because his meta cases have been bad to the point of being fabrications. These reasons are coupled with process of elimination via town reads.

The last two are pretty interchangeable right now...I still wanna see how JarJar and GK behave in day 2, and to be fair I had a townread on JarJar before this little exhange we just had. Now I'm not so sure.


If BH flips scum would you still think jarjar is scum?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2013 16:00 GMT
#1650
On May 21 2013 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?


Sweetie, I'll never be afraid to engage you in discussion.

My point is "is he being a good little townie" is a different question to "is this guy mafia". That's the distinction I was trying to get at with my question (which you didn't understand by your counter-question). If you're struggling to see the town motivation in 'taunting' town as town, there's very little mafia motivation for it either, because it brings attention on yourself. Typical mafia MO is to blend in using whatever chosen method; usually "taunting" is not one, but your post said (to paraphrase) "why aren't we lynching dandel for taunting us, the taunting is more convincing as a mafia trait than BH's scumslip + reactions".

If all townies always played proper town-like, the game of mafia would be exceptionally easy.

Ok?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 16:05 GMT
#1651
On May 21 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?


Sweetie, I'll never be afraid to engage you in discussion.

My point is "is he being a good little townie" is a different question to "is this guy mafia". That's the distinction I was trying to get at with my question (which you didn't understand by your counter-question). If you're struggling to see the town motivation in 'taunting' town as town, there's very little mafia motivation for it either, because it brings attention on yourself. Typical mafia MO is to blend in using whatever chosen method; usually "taunting" is not one, but your post said (to paraphrase) "why aren't we lynching dandel for taunting us, the taunting is more convincing as a mafia trait than BH's scumslip + reactions".

If all townies always played proper town-like, the game of mafia would be exceptionally easy.

Ok?

What, then, are your thoughts on Dandel right now? We have so much shit in this town doing nothing and the only one you seem to find it in your heart to defend is Dandel. Is it because you believe him to be town?

I feel like I have no idea what you're up to, marv. You do engage people in discussion and ask all sorts of questions but I don't know what you think of people.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
May 20 2013 16:07 GMT
#1652
On May 21 2013 00:58 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 00:52 s0Lstice wrote:
The continued absence of grush is making me think more and more that he really didn't like having starsenses dragged out of him.

So I've been through the filters multiple times, I'm left feeling like the scum are in the following group: BH, grush, dandel, jar jar, GK. BH for the slip, grush for what I just said, dandel for his continued desire to do nothing to help the town, JarJar for his suddenly appearing scumread on a pretty town DP, and GK because his meta cases have been bad to the point of being fabrications. These reasons are coupled with process of elimination via town reads.

The last two are pretty interchangeable right now...I still wanna see how JarJar and GK behave in day 2, and to be fair I had a townread on JarJar before this little exhange we just had. Now I'm not so sure.


If BH flips scum would you still think jarjar is scum?


This has already been brought up. I haven't looked carefully at jar jar and bh's interchanges with, but nothing off hand that i remember says they couldn't be scum together. Ill look for closely when we actually have a scum flip.
ATOBTTR
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2013 16:11 GMT
#1653
On May 21 2013 01:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?


Sweetie, I'll never be afraid to engage you in discussion.

My point is "is he being a good little townie" is a different question to "is this guy mafia". That's the distinction I was trying to get at with my question (which you didn't understand by your counter-question). If you're struggling to see the town motivation in 'taunting' town as town, there's very little mafia motivation for it either, because it brings attention on yourself. Typical mafia MO is to blend in using whatever chosen method; usually "taunting" is not one, but your post said (to paraphrase) "why aren't we lynching dandel for taunting us, the taunting is more convincing as a mafia trait than BH's scumslip + reactions".

If all townies always played proper town-like, the game of mafia would be exceptionally easy.

Ok?

What, then, are your thoughts on Dandel right now? We have so much shit in this town doing nothing and the only one you seem to find it in your heart to defend is Dandel. Is it because you believe him to be town?

I feel like I have no idea what you're up to, marv. You do engage people in discussion and ask all sorts of questions but I don't know what you think of people.


The irony of it is, if it *wasn't* Dandel, I'd be quite confident his slot was town, because antagonistic, blaze players are usually town. But because it is Dandel, I'm not so sure about that read. I went over his filter earlier, and other than the weird shit-fest with me, I didn't find much particularly upsetting. His reads kinda make sense, and they are actually evolved and explained if you look past some of the weirdness.

Quite a lot depends on how he performs on Day 2 I guess.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 20 2013 16:19 GMT
#1654
On May 21 2013 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 01:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?


Sweetie, I'll never be afraid to engage you in discussion.

My point is "is he being a good little townie" is a different question to "is this guy mafia". That's the distinction I was trying to get at with my question (which you didn't understand by your counter-question). If you're struggling to see the town motivation in 'taunting' town as town, there's very little mafia motivation for it either, because it brings attention on yourself. Typical mafia MO is to blend in using whatever chosen method; usually "taunting" is not one, but your post said (to paraphrase) "why aren't we lynching dandel for taunting us, the taunting is more convincing as a mafia trait than BH's scumslip + reactions".

If all townies always played proper town-like, the game of mafia would be exceptionally easy.

Ok?

What, then, are your thoughts on Dandel right now? We have so much shit in this town doing nothing and the only one you seem to find it in your heart to defend is Dandel. Is it because you believe him to be town?

I feel like I have no idea what you're up to, marv. You do engage people in discussion and ask all sorts of questions but I don't know what you think of people.


The irony of it is, if it *wasn't* Dandel, I'd be quite confident his slot was town, because antagonistic, blaze players are usually town. But because it is Dandel, I'm not so sure about that read. I went over his filter earlier, and other than the weird shit-fest with me, I didn't find much particularly upsetting. His reads kinda make sense, and they are actually evolved and explained if you look past some of the weirdness.

Quite a lot depends on how he performs on Day 2 I guess.


Thank you. I think I'll be treating him D2 the same way I treated sputnik in that I will expect something from him by a certain point; if he does not deliver I will push for his lynch. Although thinking of it now similar to sputnik it seems he might flip town for the same reasons? Purposefully useless and lurky? (minus the textbook scumtells) Ugh either him JJD or BH atm for me since it's impossible to ignore the way he's been playing. I should probably look into GK again as well because I haven't looked at him in a while and I had him as scum for much of D1---I can't remember if he did anything to alleviate that.
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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 20 2013 16:24 GMT
#1655
OK, Check out how hard DarthPunk was defending Sputnik

On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass.


Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO

On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass.


Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO

Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum


OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN.

I don't get why you are pushing this so hard.

On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass.


Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO

Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum


OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN.

I don't get why you are pushing this so hard.

Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too?

It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh?

On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Also you guys use meta way to much


OK. Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.

Sputnik is KNOWN to lurk as town and ???? as scum. Therefore there is no reason to believe sputnik lurking has anything at all to do with his alignment.

On May 20 2013 01:48 DarthPunk wrote:
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On May 20 2013 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
DP, I really don't like your meta comparison with sputnik. Sure he was inactive and got modkilled, but that's not really what I'm looking at at least.

In the game in the database, he made one, er, "trolly/fun" (? bad description maybe) post but then all of his subsequent posts were on the ball, talking about the game, calmly written. He asked about mayors running, he gave his preference (none :p) on the candidates, he gave his opinion.

In this game he's yapped around in some weird Les Mis character I guess and offered no opinions on anything, other than a silly little list post.

I think the use of meta here to clear his play is completely incorrect.


it was purely activity based, and he was vig shot in that game not modkilled.

JJD has done nothing also. If JJD does something I am fine with switching.

On May 20 2013 01:52 DarthPunk wrote:
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On May 20 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
You can't meta activity on one previous game, because it doesn't support or deny anything.


OK there are two useless players.

Player 1 I expect nothing from

Player 2 I expect something from

Until player 2 meets my expectations I want to lynch him over player 1.




So why the F does he end up voting sputnik????

On May 20 2013 02:13 DarthPunk wrote:
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On May 20 2013 02:10 s0Lstice wrote:
Oy the claim

##unvote

All things considered, I'd be down with a sputnik lynch. I'm a little worried he rolled blue, and that's what his 'VT claim' was, but I have a history of being derpy around blues. Outside of that though there's nothing in his filter that I like and he's useless.

Don't want to lynch GK today, already said why.

Don't think I want to lynch JarJar....he is capable of being a perfectly active little townie from what I'm seeing in the game Marv was talking about. He says during the week he will do better, so I want to wait and see on him.

Need to read up on Dandel, that's what I'm gonna do now.


This is a good point actually. Im fine lynching him later if he doesn't drastically improve.

##unvote:
##Vote Sputnik

That explains why he'd take his vote off me. But it doesn't explain why he'd vote for the person that he had spent the previous 3 hours telling us was probably town. That was really the person he thought was the best lynch?

I don't why people are reading DP as such a townie cause I'm definately not seeing it.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
May 20 2013 16:32 GMT
#1656
You are exaggerating how townie sputnik appeared to DP. His read was mainly, activity based.

I mean I'm not in his filter right now, but I don't remember DP repeatedly saying sputnik was probably town.
ATOBTTR
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
May 20 2013 16:32 GMT
#1657
also phone posting is bad for editing, apologies
ATOBTTR
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 20 2013 16:45 GMT
#1658
On May 21 2013 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 01:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?


Sweetie, I'll never be afraid to engage you in discussion.

My point is "is he being a good little townie" is a different question to "is this guy mafia". That's the distinction I was trying to get at with my question (which you didn't understand by your counter-question). If you're struggling to see the town motivation in 'taunting' town as town, there's very little mafia motivation for it either, because it brings attention on yourself. Typical mafia MO is to blend in using whatever chosen method; usually "taunting" is not one, but your post said (to paraphrase) "why aren't we lynching dandel for taunting us, the taunting is more convincing as a mafia trait than BH's scumslip + reactions".

If all townies always played proper town-like, the game of mafia would be exceptionally easy.

Ok?

What, then, are your thoughts on Dandel right now? We have so much shit in this town doing nothing and the only one you seem to find it in your heart to defend is Dandel. Is it because you believe him to be town?

I feel like I have no idea what you're up to, marv. You do engage people in discussion and ask all sorts of questions but I don't know what you think of people.


The irony of it is, if it *wasn't* Dandel, I'd be quite confident his slot was town, because antagonistic, blaze players are usually town. But because it is Dandel, I'm not so sure about that read. I went over his filter earlier, and other than the weird shit-fest with me, I didn't find much particularly upsetting. His reads kinda make sense, and they are actually evolved and explained if you look past some of the weirdness.

Quite a lot depends on how he performs on Day 2 I guess.

I very clearly pointed out how this is blatantly not true, Marv.

You got some 'splainin' to do.
Writer@WriterYamato
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 20 2013 16:49 GMT
#1659
On May 21 2013 01:45 yamato77 wrote:
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On May 21 2013 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2013 01:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 21 2013 00:38 marvellosity wrote:
Probably not, no.

Helpful, thanks. So you feel that shutting down my line of questioning is the most effective way to be playing right now?
That's either scum action right there or you have some other reason for finding my questioning useless. I assume you're not going to explain what that is, either?

Why are you afraid to engage me in discussion, marv?


Sweetie, I'll never be afraid to engage you in discussion.

My point is "is he being a good little townie" is a different question to "is this guy mafia". That's the distinction I was trying to get at with my question (which you didn't understand by your counter-question). If you're struggling to see the town motivation in 'taunting' town as town, there's very little mafia motivation for it either, because it brings attention on yourself. Typical mafia MO is to blend in using whatever chosen method; usually "taunting" is not one, but your post said (to paraphrase) "why aren't we lynching dandel for taunting us, the taunting is more convincing as a mafia trait than BH's scumslip + reactions".

If all townies always played proper town-like, the game of mafia would be exceptionally easy.

Ok?

What, then, are your thoughts on Dandel right now? We have so much shit in this town doing nothing and the only one you seem to find it in your heart to defend is Dandel. Is it because you believe him to be town?

I feel like I have no idea what you're up to, marv. You do engage people in discussion and ask all sorts of questions but I don't know what you think of people.


The irony of it is, if it *wasn't* Dandel, I'd be quite confident his slot was town, because antagonistic, blaze players are usually town. But because it is Dandel, I'm not so sure about that read. I went over his filter earlier, and other than the weird shit-fest with me, I didn't find much particularly upsetting. His reads kinda make sense, and they are actually evolved and explained if you look past some of the weirdness.

Quite a lot depends on how he performs on Day 2 I guess.

I very clearly pointed out how this is blatantly not true, Marv.

You got some 'splainin' to do.


No, you made a post trumpeting your own opinion which you now hold to be 100% true even though it's totally subjective to you and contains gems such as "dandel doesn't sheep" when he sheeps multiple times each game as town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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On May 21 2013 01:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
OK, Check out how hard DarthPunk was defending Sputnik

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On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass.


Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO

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On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass.


Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO

Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum


OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN.

I don't get why you are pushing this so hard.

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On May 20 2013 00:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 20 2013 00:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:56 iamperfection wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 19 2013 23:49 iamperfection wrote:
We can kill sputnik today see if BH pulls his head out of his ass.


Sputnik is a bad lynch. He played exactly like this in his last town game. JJD is known to lurk as scum and can be active as town. Better lurker lynch of the two IMO

Sputnik claimed in the thread he isn't trying to hunt scum


OK. Go read his last game as blue, Read this game, and then realise he has played EXACTLY THIS WAY AS TOWN.

I don't get why you are pushing this so hard.

Why would he not play exactly the same as scum too?

It's not like it's hard footsteps to follow, eh?

On May 19 2013 23:57 iamperfection wrote:
Also you guys use meta way to much


OK. Look at it this way. JJD is KNOWN to lurk as scum and not lurk as town. It is more likely that if he is lurking he is scum.

Sputnik is KNOWN to lurk as town and ???? as scum. Therefore there is no reason to believe sputnik lurking has anything at all to do with his alignment.

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On May 20 2013 01:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 20 2013 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
DP, I really don't like your meta comparison with sputnik. Sure he was inactive and got modkilled, but that's not really what I'm looking at at least.

In the game in the database, he made one, er, "trolly/fun" (? bad description maybe) post but then all of his subsequent posts were on the ball, talking about the game, calmly written. He asked about mayors running, he gave his preference (none :p) on the candidates, he gave his opinion.

In this game he's yapped around in some weird Les Mis character I guess and offered no opinions on anything, other than a silly little list post.

I think the use of meta here to clear his play is completely incorrect.


it was purely activity based, and he was vig shot in that game not modkilled.

JJD has done nothing also. If JJD does something I am fine with switching.

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On May 20 2013 01:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 20 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
You can't meta activity on one previous game, because it doesn't support or deny anything.


OK there are two useless players.

Player 1 I expect nothing from

Player 2 I expect something from

Until player 2 meets my expectations I want to lynch him over player 1.




So why the F does he end up voting sputnik????

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On May 20 2013 02:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 20 2013 02:10 s0Lstice wrote:
Oy the claim

##unvote

All things considered, I'd be down with a sputnik lynch. I'm a little worried he rolled blue, and that's what his 'VT claim' was, but I have a history of being derpy around blues. Outside of that though there's nothing in his filter that I like and he's useless.

Don't want to lynch GK today, already said why.

Don't think I want to lynch JarJar....he is capable of being a perfectly active little townie from what I'm seeing in the game Marv was talking about. He says during the week he will do better, so I want to wait and see on him.

Need to read up on Dandel, that's what I'm gonna do now.


This is a good point actually. Im fine lynching him later if he doesn't drastically improve.

##unvote:
##Vote Sputnik

That explains why he'd take his vote off me. But it doesn't explain why he'd vote for the person that he had spent the previous 3 hours telling us was probably town. That was really the person he thought was the best lynch?

I don't why people are reading DP as such a townie cause I'm definately not seeing it.


I didn't want to lynch him solely because he did nothing in his last town game that I went back and checked. People made some good points that he could still be scum and lurking and was still useless regardless so I went ahead and lynched him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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