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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:36 yamato77 wrote: Rayn specifically asked who else Sharrant had been after, so I discussed it in those terms. You're just as bad as BC. and like an idiot you just made some bullshit up. How does the read Sharrant gave "in his position" nullify a Scum read? If you're going to make statements at least qualify them with some context. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:35 Ace wrote: ??? If Sharrant is Scum and TRN isn't then what other conclusion is he going to make? Like seriously, I'd be interested to know because there aren't many. The part in red is just ridiculous. Furthermore, I've seen plenty of mafia tunnel an unpopular scumread to look original. Happens all the time. I rarely see mafia back down from an early read, and even if they do, I even more rarely actually say that person is likely town and close the door on lynching them. That's not a mafia mentality. The part in red is not ridiculous when we're discussing the NUMBER OF SHARRANTS READS. No matter whether I agree with him or not, his read on Hopeless seems genuine and not bullshit. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:39 Ace wrote: and like an idiot you just made some bullshit up. How does the read Sharrant gave "in his position" nullify a Scum read? If you're going to make statements at least qualify them with some context. What are you talking about? I never said anything about "nullifying a scum read". Ace, what the fuck? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Why exactly? Those are pretty scummy things imo. On April 24 2013 17:37 Ace wrote: @rayne: yamato is doing a lot of talking for Sharrant which amazes me, because he somehow knows this guy is def Town and knows his thought process. Until Sharrant shows up you're talking to the wrong guy. He's talking nonsense. No matter, i want a better read on yamato aswell. If he thinks he can follow Sharrant's train of thought it's fine. I can't. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
BC Rayn VE CC mafia? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why exactly? Those are pretty scummy things imo. IMO, they aren't. They don't matter at all. They're fabrications. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Now Sharrant has a scumread on Hopeless (which he has never followed up with anything), and then he has gone after me. Did you take a look at my filter and what reads i have given? You disagree with my read on Sharrant, that's for sure. What about the other reads? It it really so that i have been after Sharrant the whole game? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:43 yamato77 wrote: IMO, they aren't. They don't matter at all. They're fabrications. omfg, i don't know if you are incredibly dumb or scum. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Your read on Sharrant is entirely fabricated. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:40 yamato77 wrote: Furthermore, I've seen plenty of mafia tunnel an unpopular scumread to look original. Happens all the time. I rarely see mafia back down from an early read, and even if they do, I even more rarely actually say that person is likely town and close the door on lynching them. That's not a mafia mentality. The part in red is not ridiculous when we're discussing the NUMBER OF SHARRANTS READS. No matter whether I agree with him or not, his read on Hopeless seems genuine and not bullshit. Ok, and I've seen plenty of mafia players back off their original reads to look like they aren't tunneling. Good, now that we've got the made up hypotheticals out of the way lets get back to this game. You stated that if Sharrant was Scum, him calling TRN town eventually in his current position doesn't make sense. What position was Sharrant in? Was he in danger of being lynched? No - so how can you really glean anything from what he says about TRN's alignment at the moment? Your post screams you automatically assumed his alignment is Town and then worked backwards. If you don't know Sharrant's alignment your entire example fails hard. Making a case on hopeless1nder doesn't mean anything. I mean you didn't even point out what about the case was rock solid, you just said "yea that's a point in his favor". That's utter bs. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:41 yamato77 wrote: What are you talking about? I never said anything about "nullifying a scum read". Ace, what the fuck? nullifying a scum read = seeing Sharrant as Town from now on. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:48 Ace wrote: nullifying a scum read = seeing Sharrant as Town from now on. I've given plenty of reasons I see Sharrant as town. Don't be mad that I'm going to fuck up your potential mislynch for tomorrow. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:47 Ace wrote: Ok, and I've seen plenty of mafia players back off their original reads to look like they aren't tunneling. Good, now that we've got the made up hypotheticals out of the way lets get back to this game. You stated that if Sharrant was Scum, him calling TRN town eventually in his current position doesn't make sense. What position was Sharrant in? Was he in danger of being lynched? No - so how can you really glean anything from what he says about TRN's alignment at the moment? Your post screams you automatically assumed his alignment is Town and then worked backwards. If you don't know Sharrant's alignment your entire example fails hard. Making a case on hopeless1nder doesn't mean anything. I mean you didn't even point out what about the case was rock solid, you just said "yea that's a point in his favor". That's utter bs. I did none of that. You're making shit up. Lol, Ace. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I mean, a good mafia team would have figured out by now that I'm not the kind of person you accuse. Mislynching me is difficult. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
If you're town, Ace, we need to lynch BC tomorrow. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
- If we discussed reads here, would you be okay with me telling who we discuss and asking all the questions? You would just answer me and ask nothing. - If i said now that "Ace told me the other game that when he says "nullifying a scum read" he is always scum" would you believe me straight up and go lynch Ace? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On April 24 2013 17:51 yamato77 wrote: I did none of that. You're making shit up. Lol, Ace. ok well I'm going to leave this up for everyone to see your nonsense. On April 24 2013 17:32 yamato77 wrote: He was after TRN, which he later dropped, and rightly so. His case was meh, but his conclusion that TRN was likely town is not one I would see a mafia in Sharrant's position make. You are concluding that the reason Sharrant can't be Scum is because he wouldn't tunnel a player he knows is Town in his position. For one you've failed to tell us what position Sharrant was in that makes it so unique. You didn't. You keep dodging the point about assuming he must be Town. You even tried to bring up some dumb hypothetical about Scum players not wanting to tunnel someone they know is Town. Even if we assume this is true - Sharrant hasn't been active enough for you to get that read so easily. How is it possible that you know Sharrant isn't capable of that kind of play when he's been missing for the last 48 hours? There is no way you could be so sure and everyone else be off. Point blank - just because Sharrant tunneled a guy and backed off doesn't wipe out the possibility that he is Scum. Even if you assume that is a play that Scum wouldn't do most of the time you never explained why Sharrant himself isn't capable of doing it. You're scum because there is no way you would be able to make such a conclusion and miss the obvious pithole in that logic if you were actually reading him without foreknowledge of his alignment. | ||
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Vivax
22140 Posts
I might be speaking for Sharrant here, but large part of his case was founded on the fact that you defensively said: You want to lynch BM cause he's mafia, not for policy, but all the while saying that you lynch all claimed millers in earlier posts, there is no reason for BM being mafia, just policy. And as I might add, we didn't know at that point if BM claimed, so your attack looked bad on multiple fronts. @ Yamato Your 5-man-scumteam seems weird, it seems focused on people who are rather at the center of attention, and you've become really spammy and seemingly nervous once contrasted by ace. How are we supposed to know what ShiaoPi, tube, Drazak, stutters and hopeless are, for example? More information digging, less quick decisions please. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
3) Why did you not want to find out who my "scumbuddies" are when we were discussing people, and why did you let me drive the discussion? 4) Why did you take TRN's words about my "scum strategy" at face value as at that time he was your scumread? | ||
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