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geript
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:27 The Milkman wrote: Now that is a roleblock I can understand. What do you make of Vivax claiming rb as well? it's 1:30 in the morning and I'm playing dota. I have no idea what happend. | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Way too much lurk and uselessness from a player who is definitely able to provide more. | ||
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The Milkman
Mongolia140 Posts
Like, no way in hell. | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
"Oh what no we would never roleblock you, why the hell did you say you would shoot glurio and then tried to shoot hassy, you must be scum" All the while completely disregarding one important thing about roleblocked vigis. When I look at his early game stances regarding Prom it all begins to make sense. + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2013 23:26 The Milkman wrote: Okay. I agree with Promethelax not caring about looking town is bad. His "goodbye" post is the most direct way to politely say you just don't care. Although, I don't agree about letting him go and replacing him with Vivax. Vivax's been spammy and useless, while BEING in the thread. He put zero effort, that's true, but that happens - especially at the start of the game. Of course, we should try to spend our limited time (48 hours seems so long, but as others have observed, it seems to be quite short given the switches happening nowadays) as best as we can. From soft-defending what Prom did, to full-heartedly supporting his lynch, but then simply "agreeing" how about what Prom does is "bad" and right afterwards trying to sway attention onto me. Let's lynch this guy first actually, everything else isn't as much of a sure scum hit as this guy. ##Unvote ##Vote The Milkman | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 01 2013 08:35 Toadesstern wrote: Guess there can't be anything done about people not having a clue... Anyways shoot Macho / Grush and one out of BC / chez. There'll be 2 or 3 mafias in there imo. The lynch on prom wasn't easy because it was an early bus (I know I'm town I am pretty damn certain VE and Laya are just being stupid right now) but because noone did something against it. I'd say that means we have a vet on team mafia who wasn't around or wasn't active. That's BC and Chez for me right now. Maybe Dr.H because he started being active late but that's unlikely. Don't lynch VE if someone was really stupid enough to shoot me because of what people said lately and don't listen to any "one of VE/Toad has to be mafia crap". We're both really egocentrical, both really volatile, both really proud, both resentful and those kind of attitudes easily clash with each other. So despite still being really angry about this game and being told I'm mafia for *insert random towntrait here* I realy don't think he's mafia. Look for people who kept on telling bullshit about how we should be lynching into anyone like VE or me today (once grush and Macho are dead) because again, I'm pretty damn certain there won't be a mafia in Laya / VE and I'm also pretty damn certain Dr.H / BC aren't stupid. Maybe BH is an alternative as well, he's been really unreasonable throughout d1 but that's kind of his thing so he's really hard to judge for me and I'd say BC / Chez are way more likely to flip mafia than BH is. Still, don't listen to anyone spouting nonsense about how we have to lynch into people looking good because the lynch was to easy. If that's the case (I'm pretty certain it wasn't) you deal with those people later on. Deal with people who are easy to read and lynch people who are looking bad because they're looking bad. Don't make it overly complex and try to pull big plays by lynching some random dude that makes 0 sense to lynch unless *insert fancy conspiracy theory* is true. That's it from me for today. I ignored everything VE said. This is absolute hogwash. He's basing his choices on balance speculation, not actually analyzing anything. Let's take out BC because he's a vet! Where is the reasoning in this post? He hasn't been able to demonstrate what could possibly be scummy about BloodyCobbler or BlazingHand. Toadesstern is smart enough to know that you can't base a kill on speculation like this. "Don't make it overly complex and try to pull big plays by lynching some random dude that makes 0 sense to lynch unless *insert fancy conspiracy theory* is true." - Kinda like the assumption that we should kill random vets because one of them must be mafia? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:42 The Milkman wrote: I cannot believe that a sane medic would leave mayor unprotected. Like, no way in hell. If I were medic, I wouldn't protect VisceraEyes. I would have protected BloodyC0bbler to see what he brings Day 1 or maybe WaveofShadow. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I were medic, I wouldn't protect VisceraEyes. I would have protected BloodyC0bbler to see what he brings Day 1 or maybe WaveofShadow. Why would you have protected WaveofShadow? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Lol I don't even understand this one myself. I don't know vets/smurfs...which one is BC? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I think he's town and the way he is posting is constructive even if I don't agree with all of his ideas. I definitely would have used it on Vayesh though. Also, I'm noticing a pattern with all of the people whose Day 1 play I feel really bad about. 1. Accepting the Prom lynch without even trying to push any alternative/look elsewhere 2. Trying to push ObviousOne/JJ as scum targets pretty hard 3. Attacking me a lot without ever calling me scum | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol I don't even understand this one myself. I don't know vets/smurfs...which one is BC? VayeshMoru | ||
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The Milkman
Mongolia140 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I were medic, I wouldn't protect VisceraEyes. I would have protected BloodyC0bbler to see what he brings Day 1 or maybe WaveofShadow. Okay, that's a solid alternative as well (BC). I say that scum doublestacked VE because I operate under the assumption that a) we should have a medic b) it is highly likely that he would have protected VE, the mayor So to off VE they'd need to bank their entire KP. I am not a good theorist when it comes to kills, but I wouldn't dare to bet that mayor would go unprotected N1. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I think he's town and the way he is posting is constructive even if I don't agree with all of his ideas. I definitely would have used it on Vayesh though. Also, I'm noticing a pattern with all of the people whose Day 1 play I feel really bad about. 1. Accepting the Prom lynch without even trying to push any alternative/look elsewhere 2. Trying to push ObviousOne/JJ as scum targets pretty hard 3. Attacking me a lot without ever calling me scum Which of my ideas don't you agree with? Insight plx, oh wise one. | ||
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The Milkman
Mongolia140 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:42 Vivax wrote: The realization should have come to Milkman's mind that what he's doing is incredibly scummy by now. Look how the scum tries to hang onto other people when it doesn't get any resonance for its lies and then immediately shuts up when it fails. "Oh what no we would never roleblock you, why the hell did you say you would shoot glurio and then tried to shoot hassy, you must be scum" All the while completely disregarding one important thing about roleblocked vigis. When I look at his early game stances regarding Prom it all begins to make sense. + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2013 23:26 The Milkman wrote: Okay. I agree with Promethelax not caring about looking town is bad. His "goodbye" post is the most direct way to politely say you just don't care. Although, I don't agree about letting him go and replacing him with Vivax. Vivax's been spammy and useless, while BEING in the thread. He put zero effort, that's true, but that happens - especially at the start of the game. Of course, we should try to spend our limited time (48 hours seems so long, but as others have observed, it seems to be quite short given the switches happening nowadays) as best as we can. From soft-defending what Prom did, to full-heartedly supporting his lynch, but then simply "agreeing" how about what Prom does is "bad" and right afterwards trying to sway attention onto me. Let's lynch this guy first actually, everything else isn't as much of a sure scum hit as this guy. ##Unvote ##Vote The Milkman Read that post again you quoted. I am saying that Promethelax needs to be lynched BEFORE you. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Which of my ideas don't you agree with? Insight plx, oh wise one. You had a large post earlier detailing a conspiracy theory which I thought was really misguided thinking - but made me more or less drop all my suspicions against you. Same reason I'm now inclined to think Geript is town, because unlike TestSubject, he has consistently approached the game from that level. While I don't think it's good town play, it's definitely town play imo | ||
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Vivax
22414 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote: There are two roleblocks in this game, who was roleblocked by the concussion shot? I'm being told that I've been roleblocked and that's it. Can we lynch MilkMan pls? | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
I asked Geript about Dr.H halfway through Night 1... he responded by changing his pressure to VE (due to Day 1) if scum.. i see no reason for him to tunnel VE that hard.. ESPECIALLY if they knew he was gonna be NK'd Thought on that ppl? | ||
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