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MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#2281
On March 01 2013 10:20 The Milkman wrote:
Here you go Milk.

That was fail quoting by me.. sorry..

notice. i voted vivax.. because i was aware of what you just put above
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#2282
Pretty piss poor reasoning if you ask me Moc. All wifom.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#2283
On March 01 2013 10:18 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:15 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:08 Aquanim wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?

He slipped himself that he considered it more of a safe shot.

Where...
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:18 The Milkman wrote:
Hassy was safer target?
What? How can a vigilante think about someone as "safer" target?! You kill the guy because HE IS SUSPICIOUS. If you thought there is a scum medic and he'd protect glurio... well... Then you have failed miserably.
Of ALL the people mafia would roleblock Vivax? Really? Sorry, but many people called for vig shots, so your "breadcrumbs" are moot in this case.


It was you that said it was safe..

using your logic.. YOU scum slipped

##Vote: Vivax

"Safe" shot might have been an unfortunate choice of words but I don't see how it makes Vivax scum. Hassybaby was a much better shot than Milkman or Glurio and I don't see what's wrong with Vivax making that choice.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
March 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#2284
Aqua since the main point of your case is that hassy tried to be pardoner what do you think of the fact that he ran for a similar role in Holy Roman mafia on a similar basis won it and didn't use it?

Despite that being a theme/ troll game it doesn't change that he has done the exact thing that you are calling him scum for as town.

I think we should lynch macho today or failing that chez since I trust BC on this. night.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 01 2013 01:25 GMT
#2285
Moc what you think of toad?
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:26 GMT
#2286
On March 01 2013 10:18 Vivax wrote:
Remember what DrH said about Prom's lynch being likely early bus play?
A sudden 180 ° turn on Prom after a soft defence, and then talking more about others than Prom himself while calling him scum looks exactly like that.

Not to mention how this guy just tried to attack my claim.

I dont think it was early day one.. no1 has rided the town cred hard enough (not even Dr. H)

I think it was an adapted bus situation... seriously.. if the case was just Dr.H.. prome prob woulda responded

but with Dr.H/me/Wade.. bus time occured. (in my opinion)
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
March 01 2013 01:26 GMT
#2287
On March 01 2013 10:22 randombum wrote:
I guess that came out badly, I mean it more like since my original case and who I was planning to really push for has now become less of a target in my mind I'm looking to be convinced about somebody else. If I don't find somebody worth sheeping then I'll go with jcarl.

Look, go to a random number generator, put in 25 numbers and analyse the filter you get. If it is viscera or bc we still need to restate their thoughts because they are confirmed town and we might have missed something.
My milk is delicious.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 01:26 GMT
#2288
Having a bitch of a time on Toadesstern's filter.

A few things stand out to me which is that after his push on Prom (which was 2-3 posts that didn't go longer than a paragraph or two), he immediately started patting himself on the back and spending the rest of the day arguing with other people about himself. It was his idea to kill the Pardoner (a plan he admitted was bad when he thought about it pregame) but still wanted to discuss it and even push it at the end of the game.

What I don't get is why a scum Toades would vote for VE under any circumstance when he knew there was a chance VE would kill him.

Other than that, I see no reason to believe Toadesstern is really town in this game. He's quick to anoint himself as the star and most useful player in the thread but was absolutely useless for Day 1. Plenty of people came to the same conclusion on Prom without his help (I wasn't even aware of his case when I made mine) and he is more than willing to toot his own horn for it. Killing off the pardoner as well would only give him 2x the town cred. There are a few other little things, like his disinterest in being mayor I find curious.

He said essentially he'd only run for mayor if he could lynch a veteran, really strange thing to say. The fact that there are no bodyguards I now understand to be only relevant for scum because a well playing townie is a target regardless of whether they are elected or not. That kind of immediate survival instinct rubs me the wrong way.
RIP Aaliyah
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
March 01 2013 01:28 GMT
#2289
On March 01 2013 10:24 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:18 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:15 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:08 Aquanim wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?

He slipped himself that he considered it more of a safe shot.

Where...
On March 01 2013 09:18 The Milkman wrote:
Hassy was safer target?
What? How can a vigilante think about someone as "safer" target?! You kill the guy because HE IS SUSPICIOUS. If you thought there is a scum medic and he'd protect glurio... well... Then you have failed miserably.
Of ALL the people mafia would roleblock Vivax? Really? Sorry, but many people called for vig shots, so your "breadcrumbs" are moot in this case.


It was you that said it was safe..

using your logic.. YOU scum slipped

##Vote: Vivax

"Safe" shot might have been an unfortunate choice of words but I don't see how it makes Vivax scum. Hassybaby was a much better shot than Milkman or Glurio and I don't see what's wrong with Vivax making that choice.

I called him out on it and he did not comment it at all so I assume that what he wrote is what he wanted to write.
My milk is delicious.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:28 GMT
#2290
On March 01 2013 10:25 geript wrote:
Moc what you think of toad?

Read my last will
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294&currentpage=110#2197

(im getting flood controlled every post.. this is so fuckn annoying)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 01 2013 01:28 GMT
#2291
On March 01 2013 10:22 randombum wrote:
I guess that came out badly, I mean it more like since my original case and who I was planning to really push for has now become less of a target in my mind I'm looking to be convinced about somebody else. If I don't find somebody worth sheeping then I'll go with jcarl.

Join the flock.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
March 01 2013 01:28 GMT
#2292
Mafia KP is Mafia #/2 Rounded Down with a minimum of 1.

Mutant has to shoot...

2 dead...

helps! the maths is broken!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
March 01 2013 01:30 GMT
#2293
On March 01 2013 10:28 Chezinu wrote:
Mafia KP is Mafia #/2 Rounded Down with a minimum of 1.

Mutant has to shoot...

2 dead...

helps! the maths is broken!!!

Chezinu, we might be playing a game without third party.
My milk is delicious.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:30 GMT
#2294
On March 01 2013 10:24 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:18 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:15 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:08 Aquanim wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?

He slipped himself that he considered it more of a safe shot.

Where...
On March 01 2013 09:18 The Milkman wrote:
Hassy was safer target?
What? How can a vigilante think about someone as "safer" target?! You kill the guy because HE IS SUSPICIOUS. If you thought there is a scum medic and he'd protect glurio... well... Then you have failed miserably.
Of ALL the people mafia would roleblock Vivax? Really? Sorry, but many people called for vig shots, so your "breadcrumbs" are moot in this case.


It was you that said it was safe..

using your logic.. YOU scum slipped

##Vote: Vivax

"Safe" shot might have been an unfortunate choice of words but I don't see how it makes Vivax scum. Hassybaby was a much better shot than Milkman or Glurio and I don't see what's wrong with Vivax making that choice.

I dont see anything wrong with it either.. do you guys not read the thread

Vivax accused Milkman of being scum saying "milkman called hassy safe"

I showed, it was vivax who said it was safe.. hence.. using vivax logic.. vivax is scum

Why are you and geript over reacting to this so much?
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 01:31 GMT
#2295
On March 01 2013 10:24 layabout wrote:
Aqua since the main point of your case is that hassy tried to be pardoner what do you think of the fact that he ran for a similar role in Holy Roman mafia on a similar basis won it and didn't use it?

Despite that being a theme/ troll game it doesn't change that he has done the exact thing that you are calling him scum for as town.

I think we should lynch macho today or failing that chez since I trust BC on this. night.


I don't think he's scum because he ran for Pardoner, I think he's scum because he put no effort besides that original post into his campaign. The initial post indicated enthusiasm for the role - his lack of interest afterwards indicated otherwise. IMO the best way to reconcile that difference is that he's scum and didn't

With a quick look at his filter in Holy Roman Mafia it seems that there he pushed his campaign for Empress after his initial post and was consistently interested in getting it, whereas here he let it sink without a trace. That's the difference between HRMafia and here. If you disagree with that I can take a closer look at HR.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
March 01 2013 01:32 GMT
#2296
On March 01 2013 10:30 The Milkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:28 Chezinu wrote:
Mafia KP is Mafia #/2 Rounded Down with a minimum of 1.

Mutant has to shoot...

2 dead...

helps! the maths is broken!!!

Chezinu, we might be playing a game without third party.

Night cover milkman... whay don't you hand me a bottle? If you know what I mean...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
March 01 2013 01:32 GMT
#2297
you rascals now have my full attention.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 01:33 GMT
#2298
On March 01 2013 10:26 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:18 Vivax wrote:
Remember what DrH said about Prom's lynch being likely early bus play?
A sudden 180 ° turn on Prom after a soft defence, and then talking more about others than Prom himself while calling him scum looks exactly like that.

Not to mention how this guy just tried to attack my claim.

I dont think it was early day one.. no1 has rided the town cred hard enough (not even Dr. H)

I think it was an adapted bus situation... seriously.. if the case was just Dr.H.. prome prob woulda responded

but with Dr.H/me/Wade.. bus time occured. (in my opinion)

Toades hasn't?

wat? Are you kidding me? I did more than anyone in this game so far. The game started 01 am my time. That's really late and still everyone's on prom because of the 3 posts I DID about him and laya / VE and later on everyone else agreeing with what I said / repeating what I said about prom in everyone's one words.


I'm just trying to understand what you're accusing me of... especially considering that I've got people in skype laughing about me because it's so obvious I'm town this game and I won't stand a chance next time I roll mafia if I keep on playing the way I am right now.


Was kind of busy owning mafia and playing dota inbetween.


how do you get that idea I'm disinterested in communicating my own reads? Communicating my own reads is the reason we're where we are yet because again, I was the guy who just said what was on his mind while people like laya / VE and later on other people only ended up saying "yeah saw that as well Toad, agree".

(crediting himself solely while discrediting the people who are helping push and pressure prom, interesting)

About how "dominant" I usually am... again I said I'd bet VE's left ball on prom being mafia 2 hours into the game. How much more dominant do you want me to be? I usually stop repeating myself after saying the same thing 3 times or something like that and I think everyone understands what my reads are about now.


let's wait and see how Prom flips. Pretty sure he'll confirm me as town.

RED ALERT RED ALERT RED ALERT

well if he does flip red there's no way I'm mafia. If he's somehow going to flip green it's back to null/whatever you've got me on based on my thread presence (should be pretty obvious townie) I guess but I'm quite confident.


whatever. I most likely nailed mafia 2 hours into the game


you're welcome


that being said Laya, VE (sadly), and I myself are all pretty much confirmed town, dr.H as well though not as much (from a objective point of view ignoring everything else because of timestamps, if you add everything else he probably looks better than the 3 of us).

So protecting anyone in that list sounds good to me.


After the bus the next brilliant bit of analysis (grush although he provides absolutely no reasoning for it) is that we should shoot a random vet just cause mafia probably has a vet on their team.

Also the way he jumped all over MilkSuckler at the beginning of the thread is laughable. Look how he left the Prom lynch completely alone. He started it and everyone else did all the work pressuring Prom and Prom never responded to it. The really scummy thing that Prom did happened many many hours after Toades original accusation (I hesitate to call it a case simply by formatting). In it, Prom avoids attacking Toades or any of his accusers instead pointing a random finger at JJ before signing out.
RIP Aaliyah
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 01:34 GMT
#2299
On March 01 2013 10:30 MilkSuckler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:24 Aquanim wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:18 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:15 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:08 Aquanim wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?

He slipped himself that he considered it more of a safe shot.

Where...
On March 01 2013 09:18 The Milkman wrote:
Hassy was safer target?
What? How can a vigilante think about someone as "safer" target?! You kill the guy because HE IS SUSPICIOUS. If you thought there is a scum medic and he'd protect glurio... well... Then you have failed miserably.
Of ALL the people mafia would roleblock Vivax? Really? Sorry, but many people called for vig shots, so your "breadcrumbs" are moot in this case.


It was you that said it was safe..

using your logic.. YOU scum slipped

##Vote: Vivax

"Safe" shot might have been an unfortunate choice of words but I don't see how it makes Vivax scum. Hassybaby was a much better shot than Milkman or Glurio and I don't see what's wrong with Vivax making that choice.

I dont see anything wrong with it either.. do you guys not read the thread

Vivax accused Milkman of being scum saying "milkman called hassy safe"

I showed, it was vivax who said it was safe.. hence.. using vivax logic.. vivax is scum

Why are you and geript over reacting to this so much?

1) why are you using vivax logic when you clearly hold it in disdain?
2) why does being wrong about who said it was safe make vivax scum?

I'm reacting to this because I think Vivax is town and your reasons for voting him are silly. The sooner silly things are dismissed the faster we can return to finding actual scum.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 01:35 GMT
#2300
We need to hear an explanation from Vivax before this discussion continues regarding the word "safe".
RIP Aaliyah
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