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The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
March 01 2013 01:05 GMT
#2261
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.
My milk is delicious.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:05 GMT
#2262
On March 01 2013 10:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
There are two roleblocks in this game, who was roleblocked by the concussion shot?


I'm being told that I've been roleblocked and that's it.

Can we lynch MilkMan pls?

No

I havnt seen anything to doubt my town read so far...
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:06 GMT
#2263
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

No.. he clearly expressed disdain for hassy

and called him scum (night 1)
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 01:08 GMT
#2264
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 01 2013 01:12 GMT
#2265
I didn't manage to include two other quotes in what I wrote about MilkMan, so, EBWOP:

From soft-defending what Prom did, to full-heartedly supporting his lynch, but then simply "agreeing" how about what Prom does is "bad" and right afterwards trying to sway attention onto me.

On February 26 2013 19:52 The Milkman wrote:
Stop asking for day kills and trying to get the identities of smurfs, useless fluff and it only makes the thread big. I am sorry for not posting this in one post but I am getting really dismayed by the one liner festive over here. Effort people, were on like page thirty and we are not even half through the day. I understand Promethelax's plan, it fizzled but what are we going to do. I understand some smurfs suspicion of him planning a getaway with a rng argument. People are quite upfront about their opinions, that is one good thing... Besides all that negativity flowing through them...



On February 26 2013 22:33 The Milkman wrote:
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting.



On February 26 2013 23:26 The Milkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 23:21 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:35 Vivax wrote:
On February 26 2013 10:31 The Macho Man wrote:
what does everyone think of vivax simply trying to figure out smurfs not alignments is the greatest of all time on to something or not?


What does everyone think about NachoMan picking me out of everyone else doing the same?

Let's see, Toad made a guess, Wade is making guesses, Vivax made guesses. Who might be easier to lynch? Oh it's Vivax, everybody loves lynching Vivax.

This guy tries insinuate that i am scum with this post and does not follow it up at all. HE comes off as scum that needs a crying towel.

On February 26 2013 22:00 Promethelax wrote:
Hey all, catching a jetplane outta here in a few minutes but I'm here right now.

I'm still uncomfortable with Wade though knowing it is bh makes him less likely to be scum in my eyes. His weird d1 behaviour is weird in a blazing way, which I usually find scummy.
Things I still find scummy in him: his omgus attack already mentioned, attacking me for having a changed read after I reread the thread (I get that everyone wants to get on my wagon now, its the in thing to do but assuming you do lynch me when I flip look for shoddy reasoning like Wade's), his obsession with the vet/newbie dichotomy (he is focusing on it to the exclusion of actual scum hunting)
Things I find townie: his confidence and casual tone ("for all you know I'm warbaby" and "so no real opinions then")
conclusion: keep an eye on, not a good day one lynch

JJ on the other hand is looking scummier (again this only works for me but once I flip go back and look at my reads k thx)
I am under a lot of pressure now and most/all of the vets and smurfs (i.e. probable vets want to lynch me) and yet JJ comes in and says I am town for no reason. He has a reason. He just won't share it. It looks to me like a scummer trying to gain a little cred on a mislynch while also not actually derail the lynch.
This is his whole interaction with me/comment on me before his sudden defense
On February 26 2013 10:11 JungleJorge wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:37 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:35 geript wrote:
As of yet, no. The question is why do you feel my newbie status is important?

Actually its the opposite.
You become non-existent.

'pretty much how I feel right now.
See you D2 everybody!

Promethelax, how do you feel about this post?

conclusion: probably scum, would lynch.

I'm heading out of town and will have limited internet access. I will post when I can.
Good luck town!


Prom is definitely not confirmed scum as the whole thread seems to think and the most concerning thing that he actually has done is this post here in saying that he isn't going to be active after all the pressure. This is the most tell sign that he is scum

If he does not care about town and doesn't post then he should die.

Vivax has actually done nothing this game and should die. If prom sticks around and contributes i say let him live vivax hasn't done anything.

A vote for me is a vote to kill vivax the man who wants to appear active but in fact is doing nothing

Vivax Macho madness is coming straight at you.


Okay. I agree with Promethelax not caring about looking town is bad. His "goodbye" post is the most direct way to politely say you just don't care. Although, I don't agree about letting him go and replacing him with Vivax. Vivax's been spammy and useless, while BEING in the thread. He put zero effort, that's true, but that happens - especially at the start of the game. Of course, we should try to spend our limited time (48 hours seems so long, but as others have observed, it seems to be quite short given the switches happening nowadays) as best as we can.


And to emphasize my point again. Especially the phrasing of the last post shows how MilkMan rather tries to stay on agreeable terms with others regarding Prom than actually being interested into pushing him.
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
March 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#2266
On March 01 2013 10:08 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?

He slipped himself that he considered it more of a safe shot.
My milk is delicious.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#2267
I dont see it.

just because prome wasnt his first choice.. doesnt make him scum

he did the same thing as aqua when aqua voted for a prome lynch (said he still wanted OO disected)
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 01 2013 01:16 GMT
#2268
So I'm looking to sheep somebody to victory here, my original case against OO is weakened greatly by his new play since his posting has clearly improved since I pointed it out. Suckler asked me to look at jcarl recently and I did and posted what I thought was suspicious and I still do. Furthermore his few posts after have not helped him very much. I actually liked:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2013 07:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
You guys ever have Jury Duty? Here's some advice: don't, it sucks.

Been doing my best to stay updated.

I'm noticing that geript, you're harping on DrH and VE and their possible motivations for wanting (or not wanting) to be elected into their respective roles. I'd like to point out that Wade Fell was trying INCREDIBLY hard at the end of D1 to get his name into that pool for one of the spots. Generally, keeping elections so close is an anti-town thing to do as it gives scum the leverage they need to get who they want into the right spot. Why are you not also pressuring Wade Fell along with VE and DrH, as he was also apparently motivated for the positions.


It starts a with a crappy reason to lurk, but then he actually gets into analysis. That's redeeming, but then.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:12 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 09:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So...either we had a doc save someone, or there is no SK. Would be lovely not to have to worry about that extra kill.

My sentiments from D1 on JJ still stand. I have to drive back to school, but I'd like to hear from him, and I'm gonna reread his filter when I get a sec.

If you want to wifom here's a thought for you:
Mafia doublestacked VE.
That means we have one kill too much.


Oh yeah, I always forget you can double stack kills.

Getting in the car for realsies now



He ends on a reason to lurk. So for now my main lynch target is jcarl.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
March 01 2013 01:17 GMT
#2269
If the mutant doesn't pick someone to shoot, does he shoot himself?

If you get drenched with alcohol, are you too drunk to notice for days?

I'm back!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:18 GMT
#2270
On March 01 2013 10:15 The Milkman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 10:08 Aquanim wrote:
On March 01 2013 10:05 The Milkman wrote:
Furthermore:
Vivax attacks me on the basis of my day one play. He also claims to be a vigilante. His scum reads he has expressed throughout the day and night were me and glurio. He chose to shoot hassybaby. If he is so dead set on me being scum based on day one play, why he did not try to kill me? Easy. First, he is not a vigilante. Second, he is scum.

Why would he change his mind and "shoot" Hassy if he was scum?

He slipped himself that he considered it more of a safe shot.

Where...
On March 01 2013 09:18 The Milkman wrote:
Hassy was safer target?
What? How can a vigilante think about someone as "safer" target?! You kill the guy because HE IS SUSPICIOUS. If you thought there is a scum medic and he'd protect glurio... well... Then you have failed miserably.
Of ALL the people mafia would roleblock Vivax? Really? Sorry, but many people called for vig shots, so your "breadcrumbs" are moot in this case.


It was you that said it was safe..

using your logic.. YOU scum slipped

##Vote: Vivax
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
March 01 2013 01:18 GMT
#2271
Also, WHO KILLED MY DEPUTY!!!!!!!!! Now my only friend left is a bum...bummmer
lol, clueless in The Prism!
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
March 01 2013 01:18 GMT
#2272
Chezinu, read day one yet? I am willing to read you. It would be great if you were to actually show on which side you are on.
My milk is delicious.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 01 2013 01:18 GMT
#2273
Remember what DrH said about Prom's lynch being likely early bus play?
A sudden 180 ° turn on Prom after a soft defence, and then talking more about others than Prom himself while calling him scum looks exactly like that.

Not to mention how this guy just tried to attack my claim.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 01 2013 01:19 GMT
#2274
On March 01 2013 10:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
There are two roleblocks in this game, who was roleblocked by the concussion shot?


I'm being told that I've been roleblocked and that's it.

Can we lynch MilkMan pls?


Toadesstern, what did your roleblock say?
RIP Aaliyah
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:19 GMT
#2275
On March 01 2013 10:16 randombum wrote:
So I'm looking to sheep somebody to victory here, my original case against OO is weakened greatly by his new play since his posting has clearly improved since I pointed it out. Suckler asked me to look at jcarl recently and I did and posted what I thought was suspicious and I still do. Furthermore his few posts after have not helped him very much. I actually liked:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2013 07:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
You guys ever have Jury Duty? Here's some advice: don't, it sucks.

Been doing my best to stay updated.

I'm noticing that geript, you're harping on DrH and VE and their possible motivations for wanting (or not wanting) to be elected into their respective roles. I'd like to point out that Wade Fell was trying INCREDIBLY hard at the end of D1 to get his name into that pool for one of the spots. Generally, keeping elections so close is an anti-town thing to do as it gives scum the leverage they need to get who they want into the right spot. Why are you not also pressuring Wade Fell along with VE and DrH, as he was also apparently motivated for the positions.


It starts a with a crappy reason to lurk, but then he actually gets into analysis. That's redeeming, but then.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:12 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 09:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So...either we had a doc save someone, or there is no SK. Would be lovely not to have to worry about that extra kill.

My sentiments from D1 on JJ still stand. I have to drive back to school, but I'd like to hear from him, and I'm gonna reread his filter when I get a sec.

If you want to wifom here's a thought for you:
Mafia doublestacked VE.
That means we have one kill too much.


Oh yeah, I always forget you can double stack kills.

Getting in the car for realsies now



He ends on a reason to lurk. So for now my main lynch target is jcarl.

I am not against him being on the table.

Why do you say you will actively sheep, when you have clearly shown you can think for yourself?
The Milkman
Profile Joined February 2013
Mongolia140 Posts
March 01 2013 01:20 GMT
#2276
On March 01 2013 09:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:05 The Milkman wrote:
On March 01 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I got roleblocked.

Anyone else?

For someone reason I don't believe that.


You sure that you aren't yamato?

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 09:05 MilkSuckler wrote:
On March 01 2013 09:02 Vivax wrote:
I got roleblocked.

Anyone else?

Show me the breadcrumbs....


Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 23:25 Vivax wrote:
Milkman is probably glurio's scumbuddy, asking some random questions, soft-defending him against me.

If glurio flips red you're next.


Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 23:38 Vivax wrote:
I don't care if Toad wants me vigged, glurio is scum and should be taken care of one way or another.

This RO guy soft pushing me when the mood swings over is scummy as fuck as well.


That's as far as I would go with crumbing.
Initially wanted to shoot glurio, but on second thought hassy was a safer target and I chose him, didn't crumb that though.

Mafia might have seen that as reason enough to roleblock me, so that puts glurio into the deep red.

Here you go Milk.
My milk is delicious.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
March 01 2013 01:21 GMT
#2277
Does roleblocking a mafia reduce their number for purposes of determining KP?
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
March 01 2013 01:21 GMT
#2278
On March 01 2013 10:18 Chezinu wrote:
Now my only friend left is a bum...bummmer

Got it.. you drenched him in alcohol

Noted
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
March 01 2013 01:22 GMT
#2279
I guess that came out badly, I mean it more like since my original case and who I was planning to really push for has now become less of a target in my mind I'm looking to be convinced about somebody else. If I don't find somebody worth sheeping then I'll go with jcarl.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
March 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#2280
Wat. Just wat.

I'm getting hammered into my head since early mafia days that as vigi you pick useless lurkers, hard to read players as targets.

Now there are guys here who don't seem to be complete newbies that call me scum for doing exactly that, trying to get rid of a scummy lurker over a guy who at least contributes something.
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