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On January 22 2013 08:57 Vivax wrote:
Well, then I'm repeating what I said earlier, austin. If you already believed he has a role, and now are sure of it, why were and are you trying to push your candidacy over his?
Does it mean you think he's scum?
Adding on, It's quite easy for me to sit back and watch, because my vote is on me. If you don't vote Chez, I can easily switch to Toad and change the voting myself. I've not been campaigning for myself, but I don't need to campaign for Toad either.
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Ahah !
I thought the deadline was 9am KST, I have still one hour to catch up 
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On June 22 2012 07:41 prplhz wrote:
Okay whatever the fuck. I joined this game because I thought zentor had outed by meh. zentor is the default lynch for today because he's an unpleasant person just to have around. In case we don't find anything better then he should die just because of how destructive he is when he's town. I played with it once and I don't want to play with it again.
##Vote: MrZentor
I found a prplhz policy lynch!
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On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ? Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly.
do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba?
It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town.
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oh someone else already mentioned it, my bad was kind of busy finishing a game of dota.
Anyways Gonzaw do your thing, make me sheriff!
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On January 22 2013 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ? Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly. do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba? It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town. First, just so you know I'm town, you could also both be scum with you actually being a mason, holding the mason power for a single cycle, and pretty much knocking the thought out of anyone's head that you could both be scum. I'm going to assume you didn't lend your account info to drazerk though, and instead be 99.99% sure that's not what is happening.
I think that you would generally play the same way as mafia or town. If townToad would mason Sandro, then scumToad would likely do the same, otherwise you'd end up getting caught later for no good reason. But that's not really a factor here.
I thought strongly that you were town at the beginning of this cycle. There was a weird point in the middle where I became less sure. I'm trying to figure out where I became less certain, to put in my full due diligence, but I was also just sitting around seeing what would happen after your claim.
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On January 22 2013 08:41 Vivax wrote:
→ implying he thought I've been masoned when he said me and Toad are scum together.
→ implying it makes sense for a scum toad to contact sandro.
- implying that I care about what you have to say about me
+ Show Spoiler +I don't. + Show Spoiler +But for the record, I just recently came to the conclusion that Toad was mason. It actually made me think the reason for his unexplained read on you/Sandro wasn't because you guys were mafia together, but because of a mason link. Sandro changed my thought on that.
Furthermore, you misrepresenting what I'm saying yet again is disturbing. Toad might be town Mason, but that doesn't mean you aren't scum fooling him.
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Also for the record I have it on good authority that there are a lot of masons, scum and town.
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I believe the mason claim. I'd wait until sandro confirms he was indeed masoned, but that seems kind of pointless (he'll 99% will, otherwise Toad is a massive derp).
I had thought that sandro was the actual mason, with him being that "lazy" and all. I guess I was not that far off 
Seems some guys ninja-voted me huh? I can't say that doesn't feel "nice", but it seemed to come out of nowhere (without neither posting in thread and all).
Axle, are you there? What made you insta-vote me now and not keep your vote on Chezinu?
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On January 22 2013 09:19 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ? Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly. do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba? It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town. First, just so you know I'm town, you could also both be scum with you actually being a mason, holding the mason power for a single cycle, and pretty much knocking the thought out of anyone's head that you could both be scum. I'm going to assume you didn't lend your account info to drazerk though, and instead be 99.99% sure that's not what is happening. I think that you would generally play the same way as mafia or town. If townToad would mason Sandro, then scumToad would likely do the same, otherwise you'd end up getting caught later for no good reason. But that's not really a factor here. I thought strongly that you were town at the beginning of this cycle. There was a weird point in the middle where I became less sure. I'm trying to figure out where I became less certain, to put in my full due diligence, but I was also just sitting around seeing what would happen after your claim.
Yeah I somewhat agree. Both on the fact that I forgot about the double mafia possibility (because I'm not and you don't seem to believe it either, but yeah it's possible) and on the fact that I'd probably do the same as mafia.
If not, I'm totally going to do it next time I roll mafia because of this :p
But people generally consider it a towntell because they don't think I've got the balls to do that as mafia.
Either way what it means is that I'll continue masoning strong people and if I'm really mafia I'm helping you figure me out this way by doing so and I won't be a problem.
On top of that I'm actually just town and it's really awesome to have a mason for that role for reasons you already mentioned :p
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On January 22 2013 09:27 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 09:19 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ? Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly. do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba? It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town. First, just so you know I'm town, you could also both be scum with you actually being a mason, holding the mason power for a single cycle, and pretty much knocking the thought out of anyone's head that you could both be scum. I'm going to assume you didn't lend your account info to drazerk though, and instead be 99.99% sure that's not what is happening. I think that you would generally play the same way as mafia or town. If townToad would mason Sandro, then scumToad would likely do the same, otherwise you'd end up getting caught later for no good reason. But that's not really a factor here. I thought strongly that you were town at the beginning of this cycle. There was a weird point in the middle where I became less sure. I'm trying to figure out where I became less certain, to put in my full due diligence, but I was also just sitting around seeing what would happen after your claim. Yeah I somewhat agree. Both on the fact that I forgot about the double mafia possibility (because I'm not and you don't seem to believe it either, but yeah it's possible) and on the fact that I'd probably do the same as mafia. If not, I'm totally going to do it next time I roll mafia because of this :p But people generally consider it a towntell because they don't think I've got the balls to do that as mafia. Either way what it means is that I'll continue masoning strong people and if I'm really mafia I'm helping you figure me out this way by doing so and I won't be a problem. On top of that I'm actually just town and it's really awesome to have a mason for that role for reasons you already mentioned :p Alright then.
Do you feel completely happy with FT as mayor? His vote-getting and mayorship in general? If not, do you feel like you can answer honestly or is that giving something away?
We have the option to adjust which of you is which, I suppose, and I don't think that the D1 lynch is fully telling, but him as mayor means both us getting info from his D1 lynch AND giving him a triple vote foevah.
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On January 22 2013 08:27 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 08:26 yamato77 wrote:
Austin finding out my problem with Vivax's play this whole game.
I've only been shouting it for the last 24 hours.
I'm not so happy if Toad gets sherrif but I am not outright opposing it any longer. Vivax being retarded shouldn't affect my read of toad. what do you make of the information that I'm a masoned and masoned Sandro 10 secs into d1? Think I'd do that as mafia?
Well If I thought you wouldnt then you would? If Sandro thought you wouldn't then you would. You are meant o be good at this yeah? I have even heard your good at scum?
Black and white behavior reads are not where you will fall down... Oh sorry ... you were trolling Yamato. My bad.
Having read some previous games with logs and stuff, which were and were not shown IIRC then not whole lot.
I dont like whispers or whisperers, probably the same rule for me as for smurfs. Double dealing partial information where who knows what is leveraged... is not to me town. If you know stuff becuase you talked to Sandro then you are likely to read scum to me as you wont ring true to you.
There will be post, then a Pm from Sandro, then low and behold your mind skips a step, intot hat step I will tend to inject all kinds of alterior motive thinking.
Blue roles are crutches at best, at worst they trip you up in your own self confidence and new found magic powers.
So your blue(I think you said that? or did you just out Sandro?) and you masoned someone whoopie good for you.
Now you know exactly as much as you did, if who you masoned is scum they know more. if who you masoned is town... well they wonder if your a scum or town mason. Its at best a two edged WIFOM sword.
However for the rest of town except your two exhalted selves it injects Where the F did that come from. And how come those two seem to trust one another. And how come that player just jumped on that other persons wagon took it over but the first person just went MEh I suppose it was better read than i thought? Dont help that town much in my view. Just makes more circles of false trust based on shared specialness....
TLDR; So you Buddied Sandro Straight out of the gate without even a reason.... except that doing it straight of the gate was known by you to be WIFOM for Im town guys. So did you GAF if Snadro was scum you were masoning or Town?
Wheres the suspicion?
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Please lynch JX
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2013 17:23 JieXian wrote:
*snipped axle coherency comment*
I like what gonzaw's doing, actually making reads, most of which I agree with, while running for mayor. I do find Vivax disappearing after that long post running for mayor to be scummy.
*question to host and gonzaw vote*
*Joking about earlier game*
I took a look at what reads he meant.
Written by gonz very early, probably not serious:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2013 14:01 gonzaw wrote:
*snip
Seems like sandro flipped scum again.
Unless you plan on telling us why you are not giving a shit about the mayor candidacy, which you would obviously do as town?
Here gonzaw says the same thing JX said later about me. We could interpret this as one of the reads JX was agreeing with.
It's also pretty interesting that austin and gonzaw share the same preference for stutters. Should be scrutinized.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 20 2013 15:24 gonzaw wrote:
Just before I go to sleep 2 things caught my attention since I've skimmed the thread:
1)Vivax made his "campaign post" as soon as the game started, and completely disappeared. If he was town actually trying to be mayor...one would have thought he'd keep around trying to either do what town does (hunt scum as early as possible and start discussion) or at the very least answer questions regarding his mayor campaign.
2)Stutters' entrance in the game seemed pretty underwhelming. Even though there's nothing "solid" to go on about most people, he just seemed to ask seemingly "unrelated" questions without trying to participate that much in discussions. I saw him make his first "weak" post (at least in a general sense), then ask some questions, "lurk" in between and ask some other questions.
It's not much to go on, I'd want him to take a stance on the whole sandro issue and other candidates perhaps.
There are some guys I don't even know, like Fivesomething and Donotsomething, I take it they are smurfs?
In summary, it looks like JX trusted gonzaw and his reads at the time. Among those, he preferred to comment on me rather than stutters or sandro.
However, in the next post:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 03:08 JieXian wrote:*snip* Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 18:41 sandroba wrote:
I think this dude is scum. Longish post of irrelevant comments, a random gonzaw vote in the middle. I can't imagine the very first post you make in a game as town would be voting someone this early and with no questions asked at all. >_> You do know I can change my vote any time right? I was trying to get Axle to write so that everyone can understand him, telling toad to cool down and supporting my town read and someone I believe to be a strong player. Moreover sandroba, this really is my first Mayor game. And by the way, I did say that I'm agreeing with gonzaw's read on you and you don't seem to be happy about it. Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 22:31 Vivax wrote:This needs answers: On January 20 2013 19:51 Vivax wrote:I have questions, too: - gonzaw, Axle and JieXian: How is me being afk after my candidacy a "bad thing?". Post your reasoning!
Why would mafia preferably over town not post after the candidacy? Can you enlighten me?
Because what you did was like a huge bet on the flop followed by a check without a dangerous card coming on the turn. You're not following up. That makes people suspicious. I played against Vivax as mafia before and boy do we love having him lynch townies with his bad reads. Which was why I'm not voting for Vivax mayor.If Vivax or sandroba were scum it's too stupid a move attacking the weakest player among those who had suspicions against you so I think at least 1 of you should chill.
He's implying that both me and sandro were attacking him cause he's weak and suspecting us rather than responding directly to the points sandro made.
Telling us, the (scum)reads from gonzaw he agrees with, to "chill" lol.
I would rather expect a townie with us as scumreads to become suspicious of both of us here, not to write that we're just omgusing him as his defence.
He also says he doesn't want me as mayor, later he will say he would vote for me based on what Toad said.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 03:25 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey,Toad why are you so concerned about voting a vet as Mayor? Can you read all the vets in this game?
Also, you havent said anything about Sandro's reluctance to run and I think that since you are a 'vet' you should know him better than 80% of the people in the game.
Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont.
Any Questions? That's a lie. I mentioned that twice and mentioned what I think about it twice up until now. Once very early and once when gonzaw asked me and I thought "whatever, I'll just repeat myself, maybe he didn't read". I don't mind repeating myself once. Do I have to repeat myself twice and answer that question again? And again, because some people apparantly misunderstood me. Given what I posted it is probably understandable if you don't know me so I'll make it clear once again: In no fashion or art am I trying to tell people to talk about townreads and screw scumhunting. We are scumhunting today and that's how we form reads on everyone. While mafiareads are things that develope slowly townreads are things that can develope really fast and don't need talking about because everyone should be able to do that themselves, so that should come naturally, without the need of focussing on it. Just keep it in mind that we have to vote a mayor. If possible I will elect the towniest out of the vets because I don't want some random bob in that position. If none of the vets are able to post enough for us to get a proper read on at least ONE of them I'm up for voting someone else. That's my take on the situation. I think it's the best approach but I'm not going to tell anyone how to vote today. As mentioned, townreads should come naturally and I don't want them explained for obvious reasons. As long as everyone does that we're good. Still reading the thread. My big sis' husbands birthday was today so kind of buisy up until now. Since you know gonzaw what do you think about him so far then? Is Sandroba's bullshitting or is he feeling lazy?
Okay. He agrees with gonzaws' reads, so he should find me, sandro and possibly stutters scummy. Yet he asks Toad a question about...gonzaw himself? Why? He knows he agrees with him, why is he asking information about him and not me or stutters?
As you see in the first post in this quotechain, Oats asked Toad about sandrobas reluctance to run for mayor.
Toad replied that he already wrote it (he wrote that it's troublesome that sandro's not running but later, that he still wants him elected even if he doesn't want it).
Now, JX doesn't care about that exchange, he asks Toad if sandro is bullshitting or feeling lazy (which is a strange question to ask about someone you should find concerning). All the while ignoring what has already been written about him.
These two are the sort of random stuff scum asks to look useful. Detached from their line of thought/set of reads.
More or less like this one in the second post after:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 03:52 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:47 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 03:45 JieXian wrote:On January 21 2013 03:36 Vivax wrote:
JieXian did you read my filter?
What do you think of me? Don't you think something is still missing? I do. Don't know what are you trying to acheive there Wouldn't mind an answer from you nevertheless I already said everything I needed to say about Vivax for now with my earlier post >_> Vivax was sounding like he's saying COME AND GET ME, and as I said, I have no idea what was he thinking. What do you think about debears being quiet and uninvolved like austin says?Vivax mind explaining?
He asks Toad another random question after he answered the previous one with this:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 03:32 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:25 JieXian wrote:On January 21 2013 03:11 Toadesstern wrote:On January 20 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey,Toad why are you so concerned about voting a vet as Mayor? Can you read all the vets in this game?
Also, you havent said anything about Sandro's reluctance to run and I think that since you are a 'vet' you should know him better than 80% of the people in the game.
Hey Guys, Im not running for mayor cause Im not retarded and it makes me feel sad when I dont get votes. So I wont.
Any Questions? That's a lie. I mentioned that twice and mentioned what I think about it twice up until now. Once very early and once when gonzaw asked me and I thought "whatever, I'll just repeat myself, maybe he didn't read". I don't mind repeating myself once. Do I have to repeat myself twice and answer that question again? And again, because some people apparantly misunderstood me. Given what I posted it is probably understandable if you don't know me so I'll make it clear once again: In no fashion or art am I trying to tell people to talk about townreads and screw scumhunting. We are scumhunting today and that's how we form reads on everyone. While mafiareads are things that develope slowly townreads are things that can develope really fast and don't need talking about because everyone should be able to do that themselves, so that should come naturally, without the need of focussing on it. Just keep it in mind that we have to vote a mayor. If possible I will elect the towniest out of the vets because I don't want some random bob in that position. If none of the vets are able to post enough for us to get a proper read on at least ONE of them I'm up for voting someone else. That's my take on the situation. I think it's the best approach but I'm not going to tell anyone how to vote today. As mentioned, townreads should come naturally and I don't want them explained for obvious reasons. As long as everyone does that we're good. Still reading the thread. My big sis' husbands birthday was today so kind of buisy up until now. Since you know gonzaw what do you think about him so far then? Is Sandroba's bullshitting or is he feeling lazy? Sandroba is weird. Him not running for mayor is weird without being alignment indicative at all. If anything it might be a towntell but I'm believing him when he said it's something he set his mind to pregame so it makes it a null-tell. The few posts he did so far aren't looking like the usual townsandroba though. It's hard to judge based on so little but something's off and I have to figure out wether it's him being mafia or him playing different on purpose. Don't want to say too much about gonzaw right now.
As you see, Toad says sandro doesn't look like town sandro.
JX just asked him a question about sandro, gets a semi-null read as response, and doesn't give a fuck about it (I assume sandro would be his current suspect if he's asking questions about him and agrees with gonzaw).
He also doesn't ask why Toad doesn't want to talk about gonzaw.
No. He goes on to ask a question about a debears being talked about by austin.To which Toad replied:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 03:56 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:52 JieXian wrote:On January 21 2013 03:47 Toadesstern wrote:On January 21 2013 03:45 JieXian wrote:On January 21 2013 03:36 Vivax wrote:
JieXian did you read my filter?
What do you think of me? Don't you think something is still missing? I do. Don't know what are you trying to acheive there Wouldn't mind an answer from you nevertheless I already said everything I needed to say about Vivax for now with my earlier post >_> Vivax was sounding like he's saying COME AND GET ME, and as I said, I have no idea what was he thinking. What do you think about debears being quiet and uninvolved like austin says? Vivax mind explaining? didn't even realize he has posted yet :p Seems like an ignore & observe to me right now. Anything said about him would be talking out of my ass everyone could do no matter of alingment because all there is is "dude's a lurker". No need for that right now.
JX -again- never expanded on Toads' answer. What did he ask them for then?
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 04:07 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 04:02 Vivax wrote:
@JieXian
Why do you suspect exactly debears out of all lurkers? Cause austin already mentioned him?
Would you still vote for gonzaw as mayor?
@ Clarity
When will you be dropping your promised reads? I am taking back the support until I see something good. I'm asking for toad's professional vet opinion about somebody so I can read better
And subsequently he doesn't give a fuck about anything he was agreeing about with gonzaw earlier, yet he still wants him for mayor in a later post.
Then this here is also pretty scummy, but it's rather subjective:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 21 2013 03:54 JieXian wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:49 Vivax wrote:Because what you did was like a huge bet on the flop followed by a check without a dangerous card coming on the turn. You're not following up. That makes people suspicious.
I was looking for an answer, and this is it? You think I am scum cause? I announce my candidacy and then go to sleep? You answer with a metaphor that I don't see apply here anyway? Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 03:50 Vivax wrote:
EBWOP: You think that was scummy behaviour, you didn't express your belief of me being scum yet. Ok it means screaming and going quiet. If you're sleeping it's fine. I didn't not express my belief because I only have a suspicion. And it appears that you're sleeping. Why are you expectnig me to continue pursuing you if you've provided an explaination?
Would you say this to someone you think could be scum?
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5T so don't lynch me
at the danger of looking stupid (more?), if i had to take a wild guess at who you are, i'd say Radfield. decent activity, good town atmosphere, wrong on d1. dunno why radfield would smurf though but i don't know why anyone would smurf, guess it's just something you do something.
On January 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
Also for the record I have it on good authority that there are a lot of masons, scum and town.
what's this? why do you know what roles scum have?
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On January 22 2013 09:41 prplhz wrote:5T so don't lynch me at the danger of looking stupid (more?), if i had to take a wild guess at who you are, i'd say Radfield. decent activity, good town atmosphere, wrong on d1. dunno why radfield would smurf though but i don't know why anyone would smurf, guess it's just something you do something. Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
Also for the record I have it on good authority that there are a lot of masons, scum and town. what's this? why do you know what roles scum have?
you need to answer the question I've asked you repeatedly.
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On January 22 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 09:27 Toadesstern wrote:On January 22 2013 09:19 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ? Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly. do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba? It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town. First, just so you know I'm town, you could also both be scum with you actually being a mason, holding the mason power for a single cycle, and pretty much knocking the thought out of anyone's head that you could both be scum. I'm going to assume you didn't lend your account info to drazerk though, and instead be 99.99% sure that's not what is happening. I think that you would generally play the same way as mafia or town. If townToad would mason Sandro, then scumToad would likely do the same, otherwise you'd end up getting caught later for no good reason. But that's not really a factor here. I thought strongly that you were town at the beginning of this cycle. There was a weird point in the middle where I became less sure. I'm trying to figure out where I became less certain, to put in my full due diligence, but I was also just sitting around seeing what would happen after your claim. Yeah I somewhat agree. Both on the fact that I forgot about the double mafia possibility (because I'm not and you don't seem to believe it either, but yeah it's possible) and on the fact that I'd probably do the same as mafia. If not, I'm totally going to do it next time I roll mafia because of this :p But people generally consider it a towntell because they don't think I've got the balls to do that as mafia. Either way what it means is that I'll continue masoning strong people and if I'm really mafia I'm helping you figure me out this way by doing so and I won't be a problem. On top of that I'm actually just town and it's really awesome to have a mason for that role for reasons you already mentioned :p Alright then. Do you feel completely happy with FT as mayor? His vote-getting and mayorship in general? If not, do you feel like you can answer honestly or is that giving something away? We have the option to adjust which of you is which, I suppose, and I don't think that the D1 lynch is fully telling, but him as mayor means both us getting info from his D1 lynch AND giving him a triple vote foevah.
I'm good with him being mayor. I don't know if I like his lynchchoice the best but it's decent.
I had 3 horrible games in a row and Sandro realized that I'm way more conservative when I showed him my read-sheet and it's because I'd rather see at least 1 or 2 people flip to get some confidence back. So I don't think I should be the one deciding the d1 lynch, again another reason I didn't run for mayor to begin with until I realized sheriff is pretty damn nice as mason as well.
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I've tried very, very hard to find any reason you could be town, prplhz, and I've not done particularly well. The fact you refuse to answer me when I asked you a question on more than one occasion, yet you take the time to deliberate on who I might be smurfing as, isn't helping in the slightest.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 22 2013 09:27 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 09:19 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 09:13 Toadesstern wrote:On January 22 2013 08:54 austinmcc wrote:On January 22 2013 08:51 Djodref wrote:
I'm just waking up, not time to catch up properly...
I'd like to have Toad sheriff based on his mason claim, is there any reason I should not ? Mason isn't alignment-determinative this game, but if you believe he's townie then no, there's not really a reason not to try and get him protection. I do like the idea of Toad, if he's town, being able to engage in mason chats without risking a night kill, or with scum having to out 1-2 members in order to take him out quickly. do you think I as a mafia would mason town sandroba? It's either both Sandro and me town or Sandro mafia (unlikely) and I am town. First, just so you know I'm town, you could also both be scum with you actually being a mason, holding the mason power for a single cycle, and pretty much knocking the thought out of anyone's head that you could both be scum. I'm going to assume you didn't lend your account info to drazerk though, and instead be 99.99% sure that's not what is happening. I think that you would generally play the same way as mafia or town. If townToad would mason Sandro, then scumToad would likely do the same, otherwise you'd end up getting caught later for no good reason. But that's not really a factor here. I thought strongly that you were town at the beginning of this cycle. There was a weird point in the middle where I became less sure. I'm trying to figure out where I became less certain, to put in my full due diligence, but I was also just sitting around seeing what would happen after your claim. Yeah I somewhat agree. Both on the fact that I forgot about the double mafia possibility (because I'm not and you don't seem to believe it either, but yeah it's possible) and on the fact that I'd probably do the same as mafia. If not, I'm totally going to do it next time I roll mafia because of this :p But people generally consider it a towntell because they don't think I've got the balls to do that as mafia. Either way what it means is that I'll continue masoning strong people and if I'm really mafia I'm helping you figure me out this way by doing so and I won't be a problem. On top of that I'm actually just town and it's really awesome to have a mason for that role for reasons you already mentioned :p
Really... your not lying as town and these thoughts really just occured to you.... but gads its dumb to claim that you never thought of this if your scum... but ...
Really...
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On January 22 2013 09:41 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 09:41 prplhz wrote:5T so don't lynch me at the danger of looking stupid (more?), if i had to take a wild guess at who you are, i'd say Radfield. decent activity, good town atmosphere, wrong on d1. dunno why radfield would smurf though but i don't know why anyone would smurf, guess it's just something you do something. On January 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
Also for the record I have it on good authority that there are a lot of masons, scum and town. what's this? why do you know what roles scum have? you need to answer the question I've asked you repeatedly.
uh, are you talking about that example of something similar i've done in another game? or what
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On January 22 2013 09:33 AxleGreaser wrote:
TLDR; So you Buddied Sandro Straight out of the gate without even a reason.... except that doing it straight of the gate was known by you to be WIFOM for Im town guys. So did you GAF if Snadro was scum you were masoning or Town?
Wheres the suspicion?
The reasoning was:
Sandroba is by far the best player. I wanted Sandroba to be mayor if he's town at that point in time so I wanted to be able to read him as good as possible so I straight up masoned him.
Also as you said I'm hard to read and I'm pretty damn good as mafia. Giving you guys (via proxxy thanks to Sandro) a possibilty to read me better is only beneficial.
So yeah, I straight up masoned him to so that I am able to read HIM decently as soon as possible and so that he is able to read me decently as soon as possible.
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