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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 18 2012 22:50 GMT
#241
Hi All.

From other games, it seems the best 3 questions to ask are:

1) Stance on Lurkers: i.e. Do you policy lynch?

2) How do you think scum would try to infiltrate us?

3) [Being from Australia] Do you like prawns/shrimp on the "barbie"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 18 2012 22:53 GMT
#242
On December 19 2012 07:50 Mocsta wrote:
Hi All.

From other games, it seems the best 3 questions to ask are:


1) Stance on Lurkers: i.e. Do you policy lynch?
Yes, the last Newbie thread was *FULL* of lurkers. I suggest inactive people be voted. I think the chance of scoring a scum hit is worth more than the chance of killing a townie (that was not contributing or helping!)

2) How do you think scum would try to infiltrate us?

Tough question, I have to read the OP again as I am not sure whether the number of green/blue/red roles was fixed (I dont think it was). Therefore, its hard to know if there is 2/3/4 mafia. I think that will change tactics a lot?? Anyone else agree?

3) [Being from Australia] Do you like prawns/shrimp on the "barbie"
I prefer my prawns in price paper rolls
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 18 2012 23:05 GMT
#243
1) Stance on Lurkers: i.e. Do you policy lynch?
Hmmm. How few posts defines a lurker? I mean if someone really does not contribute, I guess. But we should at least try to get in contact with her/him.

2) How do you think scum would try to infiltrate us?
No idea. I guess by acting like town? I'm not that knowledgeable about what they can do. I don't think just lurking is the best strategy for them though.

3) [Being from Australia] Do you like prawns/shrimp on the "barbie"
I hate seafood.
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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 18 2012 23:10 GMT
#244
Super early start anyone?

Anyway, Mocsta:
1) I don't really want to discuss policy lynching since it defeats the purpose, but we as a town need to be hard on lurkers this game. Last game had some painful lurking (from my comfortable obs perspective) and that was a main reason that the town lost. You don't have to spam up the thread all day, but you do need to give your thoughts/reads/comments often.
2) Pretty sure it's 3 mafia. OP doesn't say anything but the other Newbie games with 13 players all had 3 and anything else is just unbalanced.
3) Not sure, shrimp are good though.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 18 2012 23:12 GMT
#245
@shz and @all

agree. We need lurker definition. I think its not just lack of quantity (e.g. 2 posts per day) but also lack of quality (harder to define).

Need others input on lack of quality.

@all
What is defined as a low quality post?

sorry if typos. Writing on phone on bus
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 18 2012 23:16 GMT
#246
On December 19 2012 08:10 Chromatically wrote:
Super early start anyone?

Anyway, Mocsta:
1) I don't really want to discuss policy lynching since it defeats the purpose, but we as a town need to be hard on lurkers this game. Last game had some painful lurking (from my comfortable obs perspective) and that was a main reason that the town lost. You don't have to spam up the thread all day, but you do need to give your thoughts/reads/comments often.
2) Pretty sure it's 3 mafia. OP doesn't say anything but the other Newbie games with 13 players all had 3 and anything else is just unbalanced.
3) Not sure, shrimp are good though.


@chromatically
hi. Its 7.15 here. Im on bus to work :-)

So. How do u think 3 mafia would go about infiltrating us?

&

Speaking of policies what is your take on lynch all liars?
.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 18 2012 23:19 GMT
#247
1) Stance on Lurkers: i.e. Do you policy lynch?
Not sure. I'd have to go with yes for similar reasons as stated above. A lurking townie is doing us little good, so lynching lurkers should generally have a positive outcome (for town). I'm for it.

2) How do you think scum would try to infiltrate us?
Also not sure. This is my first game of Mafia outside of some eight grade bastardization that shall never be spoken of again.

3) [Being from Australia] Do you like prawns/shrimp on the "barbie"
Yes! Seafood is my favorite!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
December 18 2012 23:24 GMT
#248
1) Stance on Lurkers: i.e. Do you policy lynch?

I think we need to try and focus on getting some good conversation going for D1. We need to get information but also as stated if anybody posts like once a day... then maybe D2/D3 we should look to get rid of them.

2) How do you think scum would try to infiltrate us?

cause suspicion on the newbier townies and any lurkers. Use LAL to their advantage to buy them some time and hope we mess up some lynches. - Also why I don't think we should immediately LAL (lurkers anyway... liars are a different story).

And I love shrimp.
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threesr
Profile Joined April 2011
73 Posts
December 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#249
I don't have a problem with lurkers.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 18 2012 23:34 GMT
#250
On December 19 2012 08:16 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 08:10 Chromatically wrote:
Super early start anyone?

Anyway, Mocsta:
1) I don't really want to discuss policy lynching since it defeats the purpose, but we as a town need to be hard on lurkers this game. Last game had some painful lurking (from my comfortable obs perspective) and that was a main reason that the town lost. You don't have to spam up the thread all day, but you do need to give your thoughts/reads/comments often.
2) Pretty sure it's 3 mafia. OP doesn't say anything but the other Newbie games with 13 players all had 3 and anything else is just unbalanced.
3) Not sure, shrimp are good though.


@chromatically
hi. Its 7.15 here. Im on bus to work :-)

So. How do u think 3 mafia would go about infiltrating us?

&

Speaking of policies what is your take on lynch all liars?
.

*tips hat*

Basically, townies should not lie and I have no problem lynching anyone who is lying; In a more advanced game, there might be times that lying is acceptable as town, but it is not needed in this game. Townies, don't lie.

What do you mean by "how they would go about infiltrating us"? They're going to act as townie as possible without actually contributing. From experience (XXXI), I wouldn't expect them to offer any controversial opinions because it really is nerve-wracking to be put under suspicion as scum. IMO, end of day votecounts are the best form of evidence against scum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 18 2012 23:36 GMT
#251
On December 19 2012 08:29 threesr wrote:
I don't have a problem with lurkers.


Were u modkilled recently?

@threesr
please explain why you approve of lurking. How does it benefit town. And

how do you think it benefits scum play
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 18 2012 23:37 GMT
#252
Also, if anyone here has any past games on this forum or others, it would be appreciated if you could link those here now.
My only game:
Newbie Mini Mafia XXXI as Mafia Framer.
I have an extensive amount of obs experience though, so I'm practically a vet by now.
threesr
Profile Joined April 2011
73 Posts
December 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#253
I like lurking because a lot of the time its hard to know what to say. Obviously it doesn't benefit the town but I don't think it hurts the town that much also. It benefits the scum because it makes it easier for them to blend in but good players should still be able to find the mafia even with lurkers.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
December 18 2012 23:45 GMT
#254
Hey guys, won't be the most active player during day 1, as I have work during the day and tomorrow night I have a work dinner party, but I'll try to be as active as I can when possible (posting this at work - gogo compilation time :D) After that, I should be all free from any obligations whatsoever.

To answer the questions proposed:

1) I still am not sure whether or not lurker kills on day 1 are good, it's a high variance move which I don't necessarily like, but if no one has come off as being scummy, it's better than having an obvious mislynch.

2) I'm sure there will be some sort of pressure voting happening in this game, especially since we don't know how many mafia there are, they could easily start ganging up on one person and it'd be a lot harder to detect than last game where it was guaranteed to be 2 members, it could be fairly high at 3 + even a serial killer who would be willing to lynch anyone since they don't care whatsoever.

3) I don't even know if I have a slight allergy to them, my mouth gets itchy when I eat prawns

Moc:

Low quality post are just filler posts which doesn't really help encourage discussion or which are kind of pointless and can be considered just posting to create noise. The latter is the type I dislike more though, since it becomes a lot harder to catch up on the thread without getting lost and having to backtrack and read again.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
December 18 2012 23:46 GMT
#255
Chrom: I have played in Newbie XXXII as a vanilla townie - can't link since I don't have any more time to post for now :x
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
December 19 2012 00:00 GMT
#256
On December 19 2012 08:42 threesr wrote:
I like lurking because a lot of the time its hard to know what to say. Obviously it doesn't benefit the town but I don't think it hurts the town that much also. It benefits the scum because it makes it easier for them to blend in but good players should still be able to find the mafia even with lurkers.

I can understand "not knowing what to say", but do you agree that providing your opinions on other players and justifying your vote are necessary?

Also, what timezone are you in?
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 19 2012 00:08 GMT
#257
Just for the record, my timezone is GMT-7, but my waking hours are rather unorthodox. Conveniently enough, seeing as a few of us are aussies :D
threesr
Profile Joined April 2011
73 Posts
December 19 2012 00:25 GMT
#258
EST umm yea like I think its important to do that stuff but Im just saying Im not going to automatically vote for someone who doesnt feel like doing that.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
December 19 2012 00:33 GMT
#259
I'm PST, my only other experience with Mafia is playing the SC2 mod so I guess we will see if any of those skills translate to this.
Grubby's #1 Fan
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 19 2012 00:41 GMT
#260
On December 19 2012 09:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
I'm PST, my only other experience with Mafia is playing the SC2 mod so I guess we will see if any of those skills translate to this.


I played the mod once or twice too, no other experience.

And CET here, this will be interesting with the different timezones.

@all
How do you want to decided who to lynch on d1? I think that should be the hardest pick...
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