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We should lynch hapa.
Part 1 - Munk-e
+ Show Spoiler +On December 17 2012 17:07 thrawn2112 wrote:I agree with marv about hapa but I want to point out some things about munk-e Just from looking at munke's filter I'm surprised that hapa hasn't received that much attention. Everything munke said was scummy. Here's his first entrance into the thread: Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 00:41 Munk-E wrote:
Good morning and hello, everyone! I will be doing a more in depth reading of the thread, but for now, WBG, how on earth did you figure palmer was more likely to be scum than anyone? You said there were 5 people that hadn't participated yet, yet palmer, being one of them had a 2/3rds chance of being scum. Did you sleep through math class, or do you actually have some explaination to back that up? The tone of the post seems fake. At first he acts really friendly and talks about how he's going to do a more in depth reading of the thread... which is implying that he has at least read the thread. And he decides to attack wbg over the stupid wbg 80% remark? He even insults wbg ("did you sleep through math class") so he is pretty committed to this line of questioning. The 80% stuff is a scum topic and he's all the more scummier for it because it was the only thing he talked about. I point some of this out to him and then he posts: Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 01:02 Munk-E wrote:On December 11 2012 00:45 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 11 2012 00:41 Munk-E wrote:
Good morning and hello, everyone! I will be doing a more in depth reading of the thread, but for now, WBG, how on earth did you figure palmer was more likely to be scum than anyone? You said there were 5 people that hadn't participated yet, yet palmer, being one of them had a 2/3rds chance of being scum. Did you sleep through math class, or do you actually have some explaination to back that up? for a first post I don't like how 'irrelevant' this one is. people questioning each other about arbitrary percentages never results in anything useful. munk-e, please get to other stuff from the thread asap I just find it strange how he went from maybe or maybe not policy voting you,(he didn't make it clear either way, which seems like a way to cover his ass in case he made a mistake) to very heavily and arbitrarily tunneling palmer, with no evidence when he had 5 people with the exact same case against them. It doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, he goes from out of nowhere accusing palmer saying he's 80% sure he's mafia, based on absolutely nothing, to when people ask him about it saying "woah, I didn't say i was certain he was scum" On December 10 2012 16:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
How many of them are there?
How many scum are probably in this game?
What did I say was my certainty on Palmar being scum?
Don't force me to treat you like you're dumb. Then he lowers the percentage of palmer being scum, probably so if he flips town, he doesn't seem as guilty. It just seems weird to me. He talks about other stuff that makes wbg scummy... why didn't he mention this in his first post about wbg? And the new argument for the accusation he made about the 80% stuff was awful. After all of that his read onw wbg totaled up to "It just seems weird to me." Later on Munke posts: Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 01:44 Munk-E wrote:as for WBG, the more i think about it, the more I think he's more likely to be town. If he was scum, this play would either be to bus palmer if he's scum, which would be stupid and unnecessary, or to try to start a bandwagon on him if he's town, which would most likely be futile. He could be trying to appear to be an aggressive scumhunter, attacking harmless enemies though, so he seems town, but then again, aggressive scumhunting seems town.
I see his logic now, but it is flawed. I highly doubt that all the scum were lurkers. So now he goes back on his non committal wbg read using a wifom argument and now we're at 0 reads for wbg. He also throws in the completely irrelevant line about not all scum being lurkers.... how does this help us? Then there's his final post, his vote for adam: Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 09:45 Munk-E wrote:
Woah. Remember that we need 9 votes to lynch someone. With only a half hour left, it's probably too late to start a counter wagon. Even if jay seems more likely than adam, Adam is still worth your vote more. With 9 votes exactly on him, I'm worried that a last second band wagon gives any scum buddies he might have trying to bus him a legitimate reason to turn today into a no lynch.
##VOTE Adam4167 "Woah?" Lol. Is he sitting at his computer reeling in shock thinking about possible last minute scum shenanigans? He hasn't said anything at all about any other player than wbg but he says this important part: Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 09:45 Munk-E wrote:With 9 votes exactly on him, I'm worried that a last second band wagon gives any scum buddies he might have trying to bus him a legitimate reason to turn today into a no lynch.
##VOTE Adam4167 I do not believe that a guy who's only contributions to the thread are making a half accusation against wbg which he later takes back and a comment about scum not being lurkers would be so sure and concerned about adam's lynch. He even talks about potential scumbuddies.... which reveals his underlying knowledge of adam's alignment. coming soon - part 2: hapa
Part 2 - Hapa's opening posts
+ Show Spoiler +I don't like hapa's first real entrance to the thread: On December 12 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:Regarding DjoI'm not sure if anyone's brought it up, but I watched Palmar's video and was really surprised he skipped over one of his posts in his analysis: Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 16:28 Djodref wrote:
@ WBG
If I take your word for jay and assume that you are not scum yourself, I'd say that I don't have huge concerns about anyone at the beginning of this game. Why did you single out Palmar among all the people who didn't participate yet ?
What about Bluelight, Z-Bo, Munk-E, Vivax and Tunkeg ? All of them scum by elimination ? The underlined bit is a very strange thing for a townie to say. Townies are a naturally suspicious folk, and a line of reasoning that assumes someone is not scum really goes against this mentality. Of course I'm not going to judge him on one post, but if there's anyone I could call a scum-read right now, it would be Djo. I didn't have a problem with djo's line "If I take your word for jay and assume that you are not scum yourself." Djo was involved with a discussion with wbg and wbg was probing djo for alternate scumreads. I don't expect hapa to miss something like this which he later claimed here: On December 12 2012 13:09 Hapahauli wrote:
Ah see this is why I should catch up before I pull the trigger. Hapa ended the first post about djo with "Of course I'm not going to judge him on one post, but if there's anyone I could call a scum-read right now, it would be Djo." That's an incredibly weak read to make and hapa didn't even go so far as examining the context of djo's post. I don't think a town hapa who had watched palmar's video would enter the thread like this. There's also an interesting exchange between hapa/boson starting with a z-boson post where hapa seems to be able to give a response to boson's case too quickly... this is what scum do because they immediately enter the thread with an agenda. In my experience town replacements are uneasy committing to any reads because they aren't familiar with the thread and haven't been in the game long enough to get a feel for all the players. Scum are often the opposite because they already know alignments. A little bit later tunkeg calls hapa out for the same kind of thing here.
Part 3 - Hapa's scumhunting
+ Show Spoiler +Hapa doesn't make cases this game. I tried to look through his filter and tried to find cases and this might be the closest thing I could find to a normal aggressive hapa case but it's not really even close to a case. When town hapa makes cases he goes in depth on his reads and explicity says what he thinks and he has clearly aggressive objective. That's not at all how he's played this game. He is writing it off as him not putting as much into this game as he normally would but this hapa still is too passive to be town hapa regardless of if his activity explanations are legitimate.
Day 3 VE's lynch
+ Show Spoiler +Day 3 starts with Hapa voting for VE. He does this despite not really pushing for a ve lynch or talking about him beforehand. Marv calls him out for it and hapa says "no I do have legitimate reasons to vote for ve" and links to this post: On December 15 2012 10:18 Hapahauli wrote:Not time to vote Palmar.
I'll have to look between jay, VE, BL, and Z-Bo for the next scummer. I was planning to post question VE about one of his posts if Tunkeg flipped red. That sadly didn't happen, but the post seems relevant regardless: Show nested quote +On December 14 2012 16:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
After looking at Tunkeg's filter, it's mostly blah. Not even in a bad way or good way...just blah. The only thing I don't like about his filter is nicely summed up in Hapa's post on the guy - his periods of absolute certainty that he shouldn't have if he's town.
His "martyr reads" and Adam's reads ended up being strikingly similar, but Tunkeg's came first and Adam flipped scum.
He MIGHT be scum, but I'm not really interested in lynching him today. I prefer to see ZBoson flip before making a final judgement call on Tunkeg. If I can't get a ZBoson lynch and Tunkeg is the only other alternative however, I would vote for Tunkeg. The bolded is a pretty strong statement. I'm not sure if it's just poor wording or not, but he seems to be putting some heavy suspicion on Tunkeg, then dancing around the issue in favor of Z-Bo. I can't find much other than that post that would make me think hapa would have been considering a VE lynch. And the content of the post itself is not much of commitment to a read on VE. The next section of hapa's filter for D3 is almost completely composed of hapa defending himself. There was a lot of momentum for a djo or ve lynch and this would not have been a good use of a town hapa's time, especially when his vote and stance on VE was pretty weak to begin with. Then Ve's claim comes out and here is hapa's reaction to it: On December 18 2012 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
interesting. I'll have to think about whether it's true or not. If no one counterclaims, I could get behind a Jay lynch. His tunnel on Djo felt really forced all through today. For myself, VE's claim is what made me ok with settling for VE lynch instead of a hapa lynch. Boson said ve was "lying through his teeth." He goes back and forth on what to do but pretty quickly decides not to trust the claim. I said VE's claim looked too easy to pull off. Vivax didn't believe the claim. Djo didn't believe the claim because ve hadn't committed to defending djo because of the green check. But hapa seems the least suspicious about the claim out of everyone. He said it looks too risky for a fake claim.... but scum have already tried to claim vigi this game! It didn;t look risky at all... there is no way to confirm it if we don't already have a cop (which wasn't likely due to the number of blues already) to counterclaim. At this point hapa is suggesting we lynch Jay. On December 18 2012 08:43 Hapahauli wrote:
I want to lynch jay because his tunnel on Djo felt really forced. He's also afk for critical moments of the game (such as now) and he hasn't given me any reasons to think he's town. That's only if VE steps up though. But then comes this post: On December 18 2012 09:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I can't figure out a player that I'd feel comfortable switching onto.
Jay's reactions so far don't seem scummy. He's setting himself up to draw alot of attention to himself regardless of how VE flips. Even Z-Bo seems alright.
...and who else? Bluelightz? Seems like a coin-flip. I disagreed then and now, Jay's actions did seem scummy at the time regardless of how I felt about VE's chances of being scum. I think this is the consensus of other people as well. But somehow hapa has the exact opposite reaction that everyone else had and no longer is down for lynching Jay... then he suggests we lynch Z-bo or bluelightz instead of either VE OR JAY... both people that hapa has weakly claimed to want to lynch in various parts of D3.
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ebwop small formatting error but "Day 3 - VE's lynch" shoulda been "Part 4 - Day 3"
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djo are you here? have any comments?
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On December 18 2012 20:35 Djodref wrote:Hello BL ! Would you like to lynch jay tomorrow ? Who do you think are the remaining scum players ?
jay
marv
grush
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On December 18 2012 21:29 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 20:35 Djodref wrote:On December 18 2012 20:32 Bluelightz wrote:
Yes! Hello BL ! Would you like to lynch jay tomorrow ? Who do you think are the remaining scum players ? jay marv grush
oh yes I would like to lynch jay.
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is that based on anything or do I have to guess?
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Yeah, I'm here, thanks for this case ! I'm a little worn out and also I'm sick, so I really appreciate your effort.
I really like your part explaining Hapa's reaction to VE's claim. He is really positioning himself to believe this claim. With such a post, he's clearly has the possibility to unvote VE and switch the lynch or to stay on VE if the other players stay on VE. I'm expecting town Hapa to ask for breadcrumbs at least and to be very doubtful wrt this perfect timed claim.
I would also expect town Hapa to nail VE when he was going on his crazy Clarity tunnel. Instead, we have this comment
On December 14 2012 06:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Meh, I'm not feelin a VE lynch right now. His thing with clarity reads more as a misguided tunnel than something malicious.
Bluelightz on the other hand is ripe for some lynching. Lynch-bait or not, he's one of the few players in the game that hasn't given me any reason to think he's town. Tunkeg being the other, but I rather like that last longer post of his.
I didn't like his stance on Jay afer the lynch. Jay's posts were totally off. I don't feel conviction in his posting, when he was trying to push me for example, or when he starts to be sure that VE is town.
I really think that Hapa and jaybrundage are the remaining scum.
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But yeah, I wouldn't mind to lynch Hapa first tomorrow.
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I think it's going to give us more information. If it turns out that Hapa is town, we could at least force him to produce a maximum on all the remaining players.
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On December 13 2012 10:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I have Z-Bo as leaning-scum through process of elimination atm.
Djo... I still think his D1 lynch actions are townie. There was that series of "COUNTERWAGON GO" posts that seem suicidal from a scum perspective. One could certainly interpret it as him not giving a shit about who gets lynched other than adam, but I just can't connect a mentality of Djo knowing Adam was scum, knowing that Adam was the clear leader to get hanged, and then going off and pulling the stunts that he did.
I like how VE, jay and Hapa wanted to lynch Z-Bo.
I'm expecting a meta-case on Z-Bo again, and him getting lynched like in Mario.
@ Z-Bo
What do you make of this ?
Could you give us some reasons for your activity level being lower than usual this game ?
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On December 17 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote:
Leaning town on VE initially
Asked him a question about something rather scummy in his filter
Change my mind on VE when a) VE doesn't respond and b) Palmar (who knows his meta far more than I do) thinks he's "sure to be scum"
Then I voted VE.
Don't see what's wrong with that
This is definitively not town Hapa...
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current read list from most likely to be scum to least:
1. hapa
2. jay
3 grush
3 bl
3 boson
4 djo
5 marv
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oh whoops i forgot about vivax... he's probably in the "3" group but closer to being town than anyone else in the 3 group
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djo if you're gaming me again like in looney imma kick u in the teeth
yes, I have done extensive smiley analysis of this game and the results were slightly concerning yet inconclusive
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On December 18 2012 21:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
djo if you're gaming me again like in looney imma kick u in the teeth
yes, I have done extensive smiley analysis of this game and the results were slightly concerning yet inconclusive
Don't worry, I'm really town this game 
And regarding the smileys
Seriously ?
I don't think it's a good tell honestly. It depends on my mood.
Like today, I'm sick and tired, so I'm not too much into smileys...
Also, I think I'm going to use them less and less, because my meta (town and mafia) has evolved. I think I'll try think more about what I should post, even playing town. And maybe thinking less with playing mafia.
For example, I didn't really take the time to really think when Palmar asked me about my views on the interactions betweem Adam/debears. So I lied by omission. So I look bad...
But I don't think that it was wasted, I think I did a good job at defending myself today. And find the mafia when they pushed my lynch.
I also think that this game is over now ^^
I may prepare a case against jay. But I don't feel like I need too...
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lol that's why i don't bring them up.... just something for me to look at when the game gets boring
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On December 18 2012 22:09 Djodref wrote:
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I also think that this game is over now ^^
I may prepare a case against jay. But I don't feel like I need too...
Don't do this Djo, I've been burnt too many times thinking this.
I agree with thrawn's assessment of Hapa's reaction to the claim, it's something I'd planned to bring up later myself.
At the moment I still think jay is still the strongest lynch, his activity/interactions with VE around the time of the claim and his fail-push of Djo are damning.
Just on Hapa, I've read some times this game that "this isn't town Hapa", which makes me feel uneasy without being demonstrated exactly what Hapa is. Hapa was (in my opinion) uncharacteristically passive in Chrono.
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marv, look at part 2 of my post for more reasons why "this isn't town hapa." it goes beyond post count and thread presence.
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I can post some small stuff against jay. The association with VE for example.
Like, you have this post in VE's filter when jay was "a la mode"
+ Show Spoiler [VE's case against jay] +On December 11 2012 16:00 VisceraEyes wrote:I changed my mind. I think jaybrundage is scum. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 10:29 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever happened to people going "LOL" after a video like in the olden days? VE gimme your thoughts on thrash After his first post on thrawn in which he says he’s suspicious, he asks my opinion of the matter. I gave it, and that’s the last that was heard about it. Why did he want my input? He never referenced anything I said, or even acknowledged that I said it. I believe that he was just trying to get someone to agree with him regarding thrawn. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 10:37 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 10:33 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:24 thrawn2112 wrote:On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here. On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME). What's the stark contrast? I don't see how these things are even related. Are you trying to suggest I'm scum? because you went about it pretty subtly. Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion? If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing. That's not even the issue. How am I putting anyone in a compromising decision about whether or not to believe the claim when millers aren't even self aware? I don't understand what accusation you're trying to make, it makes no sense in the context of what the OP has to say about millers. Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective It really makes me uncomfortable when someone else speaks for me, and in this post jaybrundage is telling thrawn that I don’t believe his claim. I didn’t believe his claim, but because I thought his claim was a joke considering that the OP is explicit in the fact that millers are not self-aware. Therefor, I thought his claim was funny. But I certainly didn’t think he was LYING about his claim with any malicious intent. It doesn’t make sense for me to think that he thought that I would believe that claim based on what the OP says. But jaybrundage is telling thrawn in no uncertain terms that I, VisceraEyes, think that he’s lying about his claim for no reason. And that’s not the case. He then goes on to say that “...It only makes sense from a mafia perspective.” But that’s not true either is it? If thrawn is to be believed, he did it as a joke and to “spark discussion” and “ignite conversation” and such. Which, if he’s town, is a reasonable (if misguided) motivation. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 11:03 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 10:56 Djodref wrote:On December 10 2012 10:44 debears wrote:On December 10 2012 10:07 Djodref wrote:On December 10 2012 10:01 debears wrote:On December 10 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever happened to people going "LOL" after a video like in the olden days? Ikr Anyways Djo the video was a response to the question, but a fun way of doing it Have you not seen the Matrix? Did you not watch the video? Yes, I guess you were saying that your vote was not real with the video. What was your motivation with your first vote on thrawn ? What is your real take on thrawn fakeclaim ? To get the voting rally started of course. Break the ice sonAnd it's strange. It would make no sense from a town perspective. His PM can't tell him he's a miller, because they aren't self aware. So from town - he was joking and he knew millers weren't self aware. Just did it for shits and giggles scum - he claimed miller without checking first. I just don't see a scum being that reckless, but i'm sure if he's town he'll put in a productive day 1. Or, he could've knew someone would interpret him as a joking townie if he's scum. and the wifomwifomwfiom I'm the first to vote in the voting thread So you see thrawn as a joking town or a reckless scum (less likely) or scum using WIFOM. Okay... I personally can see a motivation for a town player to fakeclaim like this (serious motivation) that would make sense but I'm waiting for him to explain it first so I can check it matches my expectation or not. At the exception of thrawn, do you have any comment to make on other players in this early game ? Hey Djo can you do us all a favor and type in your vote here when you decide to vote for someone one in the voting thread. It would help out alot and i rather not have to check it till the end of the day. The thing that I don’t like about this post isn’t even that it’s self defeating in the fact that Djo had, in fact, voted in the game thread...which shows that he’s not only not reading the thread, but is closely watching the voting thread...the opposite of what he’d have you believe in the post quoted above. It’s not that. Look at what Djo is saying. He’s saying he believes thrawn was joking too, and is asking someone about their thoughts on anyone else. So he’s ignored my response regarding thrawn. Now he’s insidiously trying to discredit Djo (calling out his not-really-ninja vote in the voting thread) rather than respond to his post requesting discussion outside of thrawn. It all starts to stink like scum pushing an agenda to me. Especially considering, in spite of all of this... Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote:On December 11 2012 01:35 Clarity_nl wrote:On December 11 2012 01:32 jaybrundage wrote:On December 10 2012 23:52 Clarity_nl wrote:Hey marv, you've explain why we shouldn't vote a bunch of people (thrawn, jay, palmar) but do you have any reasons we should vote a someone? On December 10 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
On jay, I'm ok on how he explained his 'slips'. My only worry with jay is that he comes across as overly... compliant?:
"Glad someone is reading my posts. I felt like i wasnt get any feedback from them."
"I do appreciate you giving your reasoning behind your claim. It helps me understand you a bit."
I don't particularly think much of it atm, was just weird when I was reading them. I would say it was indicative of the fact he didn't want to ruffle feathers, but he's not been afraid to put himself out there, so it isn't that. His response reminds me of my own scum game. I showed no emotion that game, I just tried to remain logical and not to ruffle anyone's feathers, thinking that if I kept that up eventually people would stay away from me because I answered every question and reasoned away any doubt. @ JayI read some of the stuff in your linked games, and yes you lyched town D1 but I never saw you say anything remotely close to "well I guess I should be more careful of early bandwagons". Not during any of the games and not in the pre-games or post-games either. The thing is, you say you don't want to jump on an "easy bandwagon" this game, but you do. All you don't do is you haven't voted for thrawn, but he's the only person you've put pressure on. So why mention it? It's an easy way out. It seems like common sense. If I get on easy bandwagons as town. Shouldn't i avoid em? Im not you I don't find it necessary or needed to call people dumb or idiots like some players here do. It is it that unexpected to show some respect to people : / I call people dumb or idiots? So other than Thrawn, who is an easy bandwagon to you so should be avoided, who stands out as scummy? I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers. And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me. Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum. ##Vote Vivax(Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.) ....HE TAKES IT ALL BACK ANYWAY! That's right, after the whole song and dance about being SOO FRUSTRATED with how he wasn't being paid attention to, and how his motivations only make sense from scum perspective, and in the face of people he has SPECIFICALLY asked their opinion of disagreeing with him, and EVERYTHING....he takes it all back anyway. Because thrawn said it was a joke and it was to generate discussion. Cool. Die. ##Unvote: Vivax
##Vote: jaybrundageI'm going to go reread Vivax now and see if I still think he's scum. This changes things, because I had intended to spend this time writing a case on Vivax...but after reading the votecount and realizing that this jayb wagon was for real, I thought I'd check into him first. I'm glad I did, but now jaybrundage is voting for Vivax as well. We'll see what a reread brings.
It's one of the best case of VE in this game. The classic "I'm taking my distances case".
Like, if jay was town, if he is such an easy mislynch, why did VE not try to push him ?
On December 12 2012 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 02:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
VE: what I don't like is that you know enough about what's going on in the thread to know that bugs/palmer have called you out, yet you claim you dont have an opinion on tunkeg/adam because you havent looked at them. does "haven't looked into" mean you haven't read the whole thread yet, or what? It means I haven't filtered them and read interactions I found suspicious in context. I have a preliminary read on both of them (Adam = scummy, Tunkeg = null leaning town) but without filtering them, I'm the mostest certain of a jaybrundage lynch.
Top scum read and stuff, but he didn't try to swap Adam's lynch into jay's lynch. I did
And after that
On December 15 2012 04:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
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Jay has rubbed me the wrong way all day and now he's pushing candidates I like and without fear of going against town sentiment...need to filter.
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On December 18 2012 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
PRE-tldr for VIVAX
ZBoson
jaybrundage
Hapahauli
grush
Bluelightz
thrawn
Vivax
marv
Djodref
Remembers jay at this point of time.
lol
Jay was not a mafia potential mislynch. Because Jay is mafia...
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On December 18 2012 22:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
marv, look at part 2 of my post for more reasons why "this isn't town hapa." it goes beyond post count and thread presence.
what would you have expected from a town hapa instead of what you showed, thrawny?
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