Liquid City Mafia

On September 30 2012 04:31 Mementoss wrote:
mightaswell

/in

On September 30 2012 15:02 Mattchew wrote:
i re-read shady's "trolling" and it seems extremely forced and thought out. this is either proof to his point of him trying to get warned or him being too nervous to troll casually because he is scum.

On September 30 2012 23:30 annul wrote:


"this game has light clues."

it seemed like clues to me. it seemed real and certain enough that the mod had to explicitly come in and clarify they are not clues.

On October 01 2012 00:18 annul wrote:


any acts made in dramatic haste and based on -- at best -- questionable logic is always FoSable

On October 02 2012 00:32 marvellosity wrote:
talis is known for posting much more as town than as mafia. But when someone has absolutely no posts at all, it's a bit hard to speculate what's going on.

On October 02 2012 10:00 annul wrote:


i didnt think that push was actually serious. if you really want to know my answer to this, then give me time to focus his filter

On October 02 2012 10:34 marvellosity wrote:


What do you think of austin?

I'm seriously struggling with where I want to place my vote at the moment. I don't want to lynch either kush nor kj, which leaves austin/Shady. Between them I find Shady scummier, but we're kinda just waltzing towards his lynch in an eerie fashion.

I also went back and had a look at Mementoss, and he just seems kinda nullish. Deadline kinda sucks because he said he was going to look for scum an hour or two ago, and he could still be doing that, but I can't stay up forever :/

The most damning thing on austin imo is the very fact we're going towards a Shady lynch, austin knows he's under pressure and he's kinda contributed a little bit on Shady and then jumped ship again.

On October 02 2012 11:10 annul wrote:
this node push seems VERY forced, wtf

On October 02 2012 11:29 annul wrote:


SCUMSLIP

VOTE VE

On October 02 2012 11:33 annul wrote:


obv not

On October 02 2012 23:55 annul wrote:


it looked an awful lot like shady was getting modkilled. easy way to take out two towns in one day....

On October 03 2012 02:02 annul wrote:


rofl at one of the reddest looking players trying to coordinate blues

On October 03 2012 09:45 kushm4sta wrote:


who would you say you've pushed?? Who have you made a good case on? The longest post by far in your filter is a mostly omgus defence. "Rofl"s everywhere.

VE has said that annul plays a scary mafia... If this is his scumplay how is this scary? It seems like he is making himself quite an obvious target for lynching if he is mafia.

On October 03 2012 09:49 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar couldn't lynch my fucking cat

On October 03 2012 10:21 annul wrote:



if i had such magical "lynch evasion" skills, wouldnt i have these same skills as a green about to be lynched too?

On October 03 2012 10:34 kushm4sta wrote:
@annul
Yeah I never saw the praise of your lynch evasion skills used as a case against you.

So who is your top scumread atm? Is it still me because it's been a long time since you mentioned me.

On October 04 2012 00:46 marvellosity wrote:


I did. I called myself town earlier today.

On October 04 2012 01:17 marvellosity wrote:


yes that's why we voted marv

On October 04 2012 04:47 Mementoss wrote:


Why do you think marv shot you?

On October 04 2012 05:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Given that no one has claimed any of the shots on the dead players, (ie no one is claiming vig)

We know we have two dead vanilla's, shots on me and austin, and risen raped himself while giving us marv.

We know we have mafia, and 1 third party based on setup, so 4 kp appearing isn't that unlikely I think.

On October 04 2012 05:09 marvellosity wrote:
'weak' doctor my ass

On October 04 2012 08:12 Kreb wrote:

Well, a good 5+ have expressed suspicions of VE so far. I dont think we all need to go and quote each other saying we agree. The ball is in his court, lets wait and see if he has anything to say.

On October 04 2012 09:14 iamperfection wrote:

quiet you i saw your little show earlier and he will be next.

On October 04 2012 09:17 iamperfection wrote:

not everything is about you.

On October 04 2012 09:37 kushm4sta wrote:
You said you were going to read through the thread again so you could figure things out. Instead of making a case against someone you just sit in the thread wise cracking?

On October 04 2012 12:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Up to Page 48. I am pretty bummed marv decided to Troll/WIFOM/Shit up the thread so badly. It makes this much more arduous a task.

On October 04 2012 12:20 kushm4sta wrote:
##fos sloosh for saying im worth a vig shot even though I have a town read.
you would like that wouldn't you

On October 01 2012 12:19 kushm4sta wrote:
I'm not going to lose any sleep over a shady lynching. He's basically turned into a hardcore lurker, which is even worse considering all the pressure he is under. Not worse as in more scummy but more lurkery,

Some people are suggesting that it was part of some scum strat. Have you guys even read his filter?
Before the game ever started:


Lynch him fine but don't say it's because you think he's scum.

On October 04 2012 12:20 kushm4sta wrote:
##fos sloosh for saying im worth a vig shot even though I have a town read.
you would like that wouldn't you

On October 06 2012 06:06 Coagulation wrote:
I didnt say my reads are worth a fucking shit either. If I had more on you VE I would have no problem spamming the thread with "VE MUST DIE" but I dont. Instead people ask me my reads and I gave the only ones I have noticed so far regardless if they are solid or not.

On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way.

On October 06 2012 06:21 kushm4sta wrote:
ve why are you lurking the thread watching for your name to be mentioned?

On October 06 2012 06:47 kushm4sta wrote:

because you say nothing then say something the instant your name is mentioned. kind of like risk

On October 04 2012 00:59 Coagulation wrote:


lol butt hurt townie detected.

You will be ok big boy walk it off.

On October 09 2012 05:27 Coagulation wrote:
lynch bc. I dont feel kush is scum.

On October 09 2012 05:38 kushm4sta wrote:
I do not agree with VEs doubt that momentoss might be scum.
I think he is completely telling the truth. It perfectly explains my theory.

So another 2 days with an obvious lynch target....so cool.

On October 09 2012 06:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
EBWOP

It also forces mafia into trying to figure out if you are infact a vet, got medic prot, or both. It makes them speculate on a role that may or not exist and thus potentially fuck with their night shots. Not sure why people think this is a big deal.

On October 09 2012 07:05 kushm4sta wrote:
VE why are you so hard on my ass all of a sudden?
First you lie about suspecting coag.
Then you say you are going to look through my past games to figure out if I'm a moron or scum. Did you do that? I hope not because it would be a collosal waste of time given how limited your time must be to justify your lack of contributions to this game.
But if you actually did that then kudos to you. You should have come to the conclusion that I am indeed a moron. So why are you so suspicious of me? Because marv and hapa defended me? Well scum node attacked me. I think mafia see me as an easy target and use me to distance themselves from each other.
I am an easy scum target because I have acted superficially scummy.

On October 09 2012 07:22 Promethelax wrote:


People keep saying how ahead we are, is that really true? do you think we're at a 13-2-1 situation right now or 12-3-1 or what? I see those still being pretty balanced. We've lost some power roles, scum has lost their GF. And, most importantly, we have had almost no discussion for two cycles. How do you see us as so far ahead of scum that SK wants to eliminate townies?

VE, Kier, thanks for participating. Its nice to see you guys posting more.
VE: if Kush were to be Vig'd who would you want to lynch next Day?
Kier: What do you think of our lurking contingent, there are a lot of good players not joining in, which of the is towniest and which scummiest?

On October 09 2012 23:49 Mementoss wrote:


The way kush is able to think logically about his top scum read and retract it makes me think kush is town. I do not like his lynch any more.

On October 10 2012 00:16 iamperfection wrote:

hey you i just want to check if my posts are invisible to you. Kush brings up a good point abut the role block stuff but your actions in this game still hav eme concerned.

Once again why did you think that marvs flip had anything to do with nodes alignment?

Plus why aren't you suspicious of me at all i have been yelling ve for a while now and you havent even responded to me. If you are town what do you think of me pushing you?

On October 10 2012 00:25 kushm4sta wrote:


They mean that your reads are either really bad this game or you are scum.

On October 10 2012 00:58 Coagulation wrote:
man I dunno...

..

On October 10 2012 01:40 Coagulation wrote:



lol..wat. This is so ass backwards.

On October 10 2012 01:43 Coagulation wrote:


why tho??

On October 03 2012 11:31 kushm4sta wrote:

Are you that disconnected from this thread?
IF he survives the night?
How dumb would scum have to be to nk a town annul...

On October 10 2012 07:08 Coagulation wrote:
now I can sit around and do nothing and you guys cant do shit about it.

On October 10 2012 07:51 kushm4sta wrote:
the fuck? I just logged on to see this garbage from VE. I'm vanilla town not mafia coroner.
The thing is it doesn't make sense that a mafia would give up their life just to lynch me. This is why I think it's possible someone framed me maybe.

On October 10 2012 15:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
ZBos what did you hope to accomplish with your switch to Coag D1?

On October 10 2012 15:40 Z-BosoN wrote:

Not lynch node. I didn't think the wagon was justified, I felt like I was stupidly sheeping and I didn't want to switch to SS because I thought he was town.

On October 10 2012 16:13 Z-BosoN wrote:
O come the fuck on. The vote was 12 shady 5 node at the end.
Just because I was the first to unvote Node doesn't mean shit. Why the hell would I do that 40-50 minutes before the actual lynch time if my true goal was to save Node?
If you wanna use that as an argument, include the other 5 (?) people who changed their vote.

On October 11 2012 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
@ VE and BC it's an honest question... how can scum make up a claim like that about BC and have it be corroborated by BCs story... it doesn't make sense to me that he isn't town.

On October 11 2012 01:36 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah I was definitely wrong to give him a free town pass.

also don't get caught up too much in my reaction as part of your case because I'm going to flip town. just a heads up

On October 02 2012 13:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really like austin all of a sudden.

And really dislike Mattchew.

It's going to be an eventful night guys. Sleep tight.

On October 11 2012 01:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Day 1 I didn't even know the game started for the first entire day, came home from work into the second day of it and saw my role pm. I then caught up on the thread and began posting. You are right in that I was more passive for day 1, but a ton of people were. The time I was around I attempted to move the lynch off of shady and kingjames while proposing new lynch prospects. Given that at the time of my posting people were slowly peeling from both kj and shady I thought I had done well then had do RL stuff and head back to work. The points I have been around I have made sure to be as productive as I can as well, my life is far busier then it used to be. It obviously makes me look off given my history as a player but I have done what I could. My play day 1 was suboptimal given my role, yet Scum still shot me, likely fearing what I can do as an active poster.

On October 11 2012 01:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


True. However given the progression of the game thus far who's been harassed non stop and likely to have been up for a lynch? People have been pushing at kush every day, and each day a confirmed red took precidense. The only person they could hope to make a claim in any regards over and attempt to push to have killed is me given the information they would have and what at least two of them pushed as an idea in thread.

On October 11 2012 03:54 kushm4sta wrote:
dont take that as mafia trying to get a dt to counterclaim lol.. but I think that if a dt counterclaimed you guys should lynch the fuck out of VE.

On October 12 2012 05:33 Coagulation wrote:
whats up bc. you should night kill ve for us

On October 12 2012 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
VE, in which world does framer do more then swap someones role from green/blue to red? Like near universally it turns a green townies into mafia goons, and typically does the same to blues. It doesn't in any game I can remember turn a player from vanilla town into mafia power role. -_- Had kush flipped as a town paramedic, town coroner, or something similar I could understand him being labeled as red for it, but given that we have not had medics whos sanity was confused, (note a sanity change on you don't explain why he appeared as a power role) known watchers that act normally, vigi's that act normally, vets that act normally, why the fuck would the dts be different? Also why would the mafia have a role that only fucks with from what I can gather 1 role in the game.


You have a claim that makes no fing sense.

On October 12 2012 06:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


he didn't have to troll if they have a power like that. He raged based on the role that caught him. If they had such a power at their advantage losing him wouldn't have been a "huge deal" regardless of how he was caught. Also, I call you useless because you have done pretty well dick all this game. You can't deny that.

On October 12 2012 07:28 Coagulation wrote:
well its pretty clear that hes either scum or third party. anyone that thinks townie bc would be alive this far into game is only kidding themselves.

On October 08 2012 08:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mattchew on the other hand is not active and scummy.

I never thought Coag was scum - I wanted to see who jumped onboard a shitty-ass case. Kush won. I'm presently looking over previous games to decide if I think it's because he's scum or because he's just really really bad.

On October 12 2012 09:07 Z-BosoN wrote:


No, I still find yours to be weird as fuck. BC is almost 100% guaranteed to be crap.



I think not my good sir.



This was much much later when the expiration date of your "trap" had come about.

Let's pretend that by "never", you actually meant "after I received the green check on him".

If that's the case, you are saying that you had a scum-read on Coag. Then you received a green check on him. Then you decided to make a shit case on him to see if people were gonna jump, and thus catch your scum?? Because, as your experience tells you, scums love hopping onto bad cases?

On October 12 2012 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Guys I understand that I look bad. But unless you think I'm scum, lynching me is a poor idea. I'm active, I give a shit and I'm going to be here looking for scum. You're talking about lynching me when there are people who don't give a fuck about this game just coming in here and voting the flavor of the cycle. Subtracting the fact that my flip will tell you nothing about anything (I'd be interested to hear what you think my flip will tell you Coag), it's just a bad idea in general. Don't do it guys.

On October 12 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:
To expand on the node thing.

Why would ZB unvpte node to save node and lynch shady if he had previously thought node was scummy enough to vote for?

The obvious consequence is that shady is more likely lynched after unvoting node. So ZB backflipped from thinking node was scum to backflipping so much as to indirectly aid the lynch of someone he thought was town. To save someone else he thought was town but had just voted for?

And all this just happens to derail a scum lynch day one?

Right.

On October 12 2012 10:20 DarthPunk wrote:


Why the fuck would you vote for someone you had a town read on?!?!?

On October 01 2012 13:18 kushm4sta wrote:


He's a lynch I can feel good about even if he flips green.

On October 12 2012 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
ve it would tell us if theres a framer or some shit in play. would tell us if your telling truth or not.

On October 12 2012 10:38 Mattchew wrote:
VE what do you think of iamperfection

On October 12 2012 09:11 VisceraEyes wrote:


The bolded is the case - I did have a scumread on Coag before I checked him.

My experience tells me that scum love to hop on cases against townies written by townies. Whether the case is good or bad, there's always a scum who's willing to go "Hey yeah, that DID kinda look like a scumslip!". And no, I wasn't going to let that be a determining factor in a lynch. I was using it as a baseline for my check - because Kush fit the bill as newbScum who fell into my trap, I checked him. He returned Red. The rest is history.

On October 12 2012 15:21 Coagulation wrote:
how can he be fucking scum he didnt even know they have a role blocker

On October 12 2012 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:


So you think in a game with 2 medics that scum would have 1kp? in a 15 player game?