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VisceraEyes
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On September 30 2012 04:31 Mementoss wrote: mightaswell /in Psh /out j/k dawg | ||
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On September 30 2012 15:02 Mattchew wrote: i re-read shady's "trolling" and it seems extremely forced and thought out. this is either proof to his point of him trying to get warned or him being too nervous to troll casually because he is scum. Tell me what you think is "extremely forced and thought out" about Shady's trolling please. Use of the word "extremely" should make that exceedingly easy to explain, so I look forward to hearing it. Shady Sands is the most suspicious person in the thread right now though. His explaination for his vote makes no sense with his explanation for his trolling, which also made no sense independantly. Think that didn't make sense? Read it again. And then go read Shady's posts. And be suspicious of him with me. Also I'd like to know what you found worth reading in annul's post. First of all, setup speculation (as the mod has pointed out) is useless. Not to mention the fact that he's trying to sell certainties rather than speculating anyway - speculation has an air of questioning and uncertainty, but annul's post brashly made assumptions based on the daypost which I find terribly suspicious. So I'd like for you to explain what you liked about it if you please. | ||
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Will you help me figure out who, if any of them, is most deserving of a rope around the neck? | ||
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On September 30 2012 23:30 annul wrote: "this game has light clues." it seemed like clues to me. it seemed real and certain enough that the mod had to explicitly come in and clarify they are not clues. Yeah, I get that - it was the manner in which you were "speculating". They only seemed certain because you interpreted and explained them that way, which is what I found suspicious. Anyway, that's all you got right now so I'd certainly not lynch you for that. I'm just WATCHIN you as a result. However, I'd like for you to explain why an FoS of you is "FoSable" please. This is probably gonna be good. ##vote: annul | ||
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On October 01 2012 00:18 annul wrote: any acts made in dramatic haste and based on -- at best -- questionable logic is always FoSable "Dramatic haste" is like...I took issue with your post BECAUSE it was your first post. I don't know how long you'd want me to WAIT before bringing it up or whatever, but....okay I guess. So go ahead and explain how my logic is questionable. I'm all ears. Here's my thought process. I know you as scum tend to give town more information than they need. So when I see you making assumptions about the game based on the daypost (clues or no, what you did wasn't speculating) then yeah that's gonna raise red flags for me. Yes, I voted for you. I voted for you because you said you were gonna FoS me without FoSing me like a little bitch. So I made it real. | ||
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What do you think of annul so far marv? | ||
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Telling town you got hit in XVIII comes to mind in regard to you giving town information they don't need...though, that's subjective because as you claimed then, it was something you'd have done as town. Regarding the day post, again - your answer is sufficient mainly because of how subjective the circumstances. Like, I didn't take "clues" to mean anything about the setup because we got all the information about the roles I assumed we were going to get (their names). Taken with DrH's warning about our profiles and I took the clues to specifically pertain to the players. However, you obviously interpreted that differently. And as far as ad hominem attacks go, I didn't call you a little bitch. I said you acted as a little bitch would act in saying you could FoS me if you wanted to and be totally justified in doing so, but you didn't FoS me. It was a description of your post, not of you personally. I know you're not a little bitch, I've played with you before. And you've played with me before and you know I don't think you're a little bitch. So can we just not please? | ||
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##Unvote: annul | ||
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I have played with annul before. Once that I can remember. We went almost all-in as scum together and Jackal came from behind and won it for us with an extra vote in XVIII. If we've played together as town, I can't remember it. At this point I'm null - I got a false read on him early on, and while I think his anger at me seems a little contrived, I know I've overreacted once or twice to people calling my posts stupid or something. Once that I remember for sure. Maybe twice. I've seen him play scum. He's pretty terrifying and that may have biased my read earlier. I'd like to hear more from ShadySands as well, but I'd like you to elaborate on your suspicion of him. I know why I'm suspicious of him, and I'm not sure if it's for the same reason as you. | ||
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Shady is an intelligent guy. Poor play isn't something I'd use to write Shady off. I mean, he's not super awesome like me, but he's good enough to know that what he's doing is newb shit which means it has to be intentional. And while it's possible that he's being straight up with the whole "Oh you know, I wanted to martyr myself to the mod as an example", I tend to think that he's just trying get out of hot water before he's in it, so to speak...which is a scum trait. In fact, ##Vote: ShadySands Going MIA after making shitty accusations and troll entrance is like...strike three for me. @Everyone else I find nothing scummy about KJ's input on scumhunting in an inactivish environment. If that's all he's got, then we'll talk. As it stands though, that one singular post is better than the several who haven't posted at all. That being said, the whole "seemed contrived/was contrived" nonsense does need clarification. @KJ "...seemed contrived" is the same thing as "was contrived" in the context of analyzing behavior. If you're town, then if something "seems contrived" then that's suspicious because townies have no reason to fake it. Saying something that X said "seems contrived" means the same thing as "It looks to me like X is faking his reaction" - do you not understand how someone would get defensive about that? And then trying to paint it scummy (Y U DEFENSIVE) on top of that makes it seem like you're trying to set him up. Ultimately, you're after meaningful contribution and you have provided none. There's stuff going on in the game worth commenting on, and presently you're not. I'm willing to lynch into ShadySands, kingjames01 as it stands. We really need more content from everyone though. | ||
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On October 02 2012 00:32 marvellosity wrote: talis is known for posting much more as town than as mafia. But when someone has absolutely no posts at all, it's a bit hard to speculate what's going on. This. There are scummys in here that need to go before we talk about killing people with one post. Yeah, I forgot about a voting thread...but I'm going to be voting for KJ instead of Shady anyway. @BC Your primary concern with the Shady wagon seemed to be that there was one. Is that the case? And if so, are you kidding me? @ZBos I was as clear as I could be regarding KJ. Someone (I forget who) said they thought his comment about forcing lurkers into the spotlight by meaningfully posting was scummy. I did not, and that's what the first statement was about - I didn't find that particular post scummy. However I find him scummy enough to lynch based on the reasons I gave after that statement. I didn't go from "town read" to "scum read" as you seem to imply. Also, does anyone else feel like I spent "about a billion posts attacking annul"? Because it didn't seem that way to me. It seemed more like one post. :/ | ||
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I'm not going to defend myself against talismania's post because there's nothing there. I've contributed as much as I feel I can. I find it interesting that he's going after me with an "activity tell"....as his first post in the game. Food for thought. | ||
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Now - do you feel better about how much I've been posting? I should hope not - because none of that is relevant to this game. However, in spite of how true all of the above is and how completely is explains why I haven't been in here "exhaustively posting", it should hold no bearing on my alignment whatsoever anyway. I wasn't baiting annul. I wouldn't bait annul because he'd make me his bitch. I was prodding annul because that's the kind of guy I am. He took offense (or seemed to) and I rectified it. YOU are the one bringing this back up - not annul, and not me. So if you want to accuse someone of "shitting up the thread" as a result of my actions, take a look in the mirror friend. And "low hanging fruit" you say? Like - what does that even mean? Easy targets? Have you ever even PLAYED a game with annul? How about Shady Sands, does he strike you as an EASY FUCKING TARGET TALIS? This is the part where I log off TL until I get home in an attempt to return to objective thinking. If curiosity overcomes, I might return, but I actually do have work to do tonight, and I actually am afraid for my job because of how much I play mafia at work. | ||
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