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On July 20 2012 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Are you purposefully being stupid?
:/
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On July 20 2012 05:51 Kurumi wrote:GGQ I am very confident that GGQ is scum. His filter is not even one page long. (Actually 5 in-game posts.) "How can you say anything about the guy then, Kurumi?" Some of you have pointed out that Mafia's biggest objective is to survive. You can do it vanilla style - try to blend in during the discussion. You can do it lurker style - just avoid the fire and appear when everything's a little more silent... There's always false townie style, where you basically try to forget about your role and go with the flow while trying to keep in mind who's good target and who's not. As we've seen so far, being a lurker in this game is a GREAT option. We've been attacking each other like mad. If it wasn't an in-game attack, it was an attack on person her/himself. We've got a good player lurking like mad for no reason. It's already Day 2. If he was really occupied, guess what - he'd get replaced, just like two guys already, but he has no reason to ask for one. When I call him out that he is actively lurking(I am going to count how much it takes you to respond to this GGQ by the way) Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:36 GGQ wrote:On July 17 2012 03:27 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 03:25 GGQ wrote:On July 16 2012 19:13 Probulous wrote:
So in essence I should have kept that to myself?
I find it highly unlikely that mafia will be pushing strong reads day 1 given the setup. For two reasons, one they may be pushing one of their own, two they will be held accountable. So my thinking was to out to the thread so people are aware of it. Yes mafia are too but all this does is limit their options. How exactly does this help me further my agenda if I am mafia?
My experience playing scum in two Sleeper Cell games tells me that this is the opposite of true. If you aren't burdened by knowledge of your teammates, it's much easier to come out strong on day 1. Why are you active lurking? wtf are you talking about? How does that answer sound to you? It's strict denial. He sees nothing wrong with his play. He feels no guilt. Why would he? There's a post by him in this quote too. He shares... a little of his knowledge... HE HAS PLAYED TWO DAMN SLEEPER CELL GAMES. Everything he has to tell us is that Mafia do whatever they please on Day 1. Solid advice here man. Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 03:42 GGQ wrote:On July 17 2012 03:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 17 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 03:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town That's bullshit and you know it lol. you have said the word "chaos" or talked about town stability in almost every post you have made. Did you elect yourself town peacekeeper? Because basically every one of your posts has extremely little to do with actually finding and lynching scum Actually I'm playing smart and waiting until I have a solid case before I go after someone. In contrast, you have your idiotic crusade against katina and that's it. Discussion should be currently centered around Palmar for his inability/refusal to play. BH should be a secondary consideration for his random wild play. And of course I still haven't forgot chez and the smurf, I'm interested to see if they start playing as well. This may come as a shock but it's not always a good idea to shit up the thread with random cases. My lack of a formal "case" is way better than your little spat with Katina. What? Why? What would that accomplish? How would that help us find scum? Palmar does that shit all the time. It's stupid and unhelpful but arguing about it has never changed him before and it won't now. ##vote blazinghand He tries to shift focus off from Palmar. He is defending him telling people that Palmar is just like that. That's what Palmar should've probably said, right? Look at how this post ends "has never changed him before and it won't now" it's a decisive NO. And this BH vote. He did explain it, right? Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote:
Why did I vote BH without mentioning even a single word about him? To see what would happen, of course!
Most people's responses were good; just asking me why or making little noises of disgust. The only one who tried to construe it as scummy was Austin the squirming mafia.
Why did I vote BH at all? Because he was being active and throwing his vote around without doing anything and seemed very concerned with his own activity, as if it was justifying something. I believed and still believe he is scum.
I get very bad vibes from HiroPro. His posts all feel like he's just putting in his time.
There's a bunch of other possible mafias in my mind, but another day another noose.
The case on gonzaw feels weaker than the one on austin to me. I prefer to lynch BH or austinmcc, but I'll switch before deadline if it's necessary to get a lynch. TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? Sounds like someone doesn't freaking care about the lynch? Wait, he does care, look at the last line! Why would a person with no thread presence try to defend Palmar? GGQ has NEVER said anything about Palmar. Never EVER. If you were searching for a guy trying to survive - here you go. Why would you lurk as Town in this game? With 1KP, Mafia has little power to do anything to stop you from acting. Sure, they might have roleblockers, maybe politicians or anti-nukers, but it's the cases which should win games. Palmar and Bill Murray are playing similar style, where they mostly post one-liners or troll material. Palmar just now started pushing layabout hard (without proper case, just some meta to back it up). GGQ has a lot of knowledge. It is Day 2 and he hasn't shared ANY of it. He is denying us information. No cases made, no activity in the thread, NOTHING. He is trying for his survival. If he comes guns blazing at any point in the game... I think you'll get it that he's scum. I am voting GGQ. ##vote GGQ
Surely all these points can be made against me. So what makes him any more scummy than me?
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good. you ask what i particularly like the case.
I quote the part where I said what I particularly liked about the case and why, and you post some drivel. If that's the level of cognitive thought you're capable of this game then ignore away.
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On July 20 2012 06:00 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 05:51 Kurumi wrote:GGQ I am very confident that GGQ is scum. His filter is not even one page long. (Actually 5 in-game posts.) "How can you say anything about the guy then, Kurumi?" Some of you have pointed out that Mafia's biggest objective is to survive. You can do it vanilla style - try to blend in during the discussion. You can do it lurker style - just avoid the fire and appear when everything's a little more silent... There's always false townie style, where you basically try to forget about your role and go with the flow while trying to keep in mind who's good target and who's not. As we've seen so far, being a lurker in this game is a GREAT option. We've been attacking each other like mad. If it wasn't an in-game attack, it was an attack on person her/himself. We've got a good player lurking like mad for no reason. It's already Day 2. If he was really occupied, guess what - he'd get replaced, just like two guys already, but he has no reason to ask for one. When I call him out that he is actively lurking(I am going to count how much it takes you to respond to this GGQ by the way) On July 17 2012 03:36 GGQ wrote:On July 17 2012 03:27 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 03:25 GGQ wrote:On July 16 2012 19:13 Probulous wrote:
So in essence I should have kept that to myself?
I find it highly unlikely that mafia will be pushing strong reads day 1 given the setup. For two reasons, one they may be pushing one of their own, two they will be held accountable. So my thinking was to out to the thread so people are aware of it. Yes mafia are too but all this does is limit their options. How exactly does this help me further my agenda if I am mafia?
My experience playing scum in two Sleeper Cell games tells me that this is the opposite of true. If you aren't burdened by knowledge of your teammates, it's much easier to come out strong on day 1. Why are you active lurking? wtf are you talking about? How does that answer sound to you? It's strict denial. He sees nothing wrong with his play. He feels no guilt. Why would he? There's a post by him in this quote too. He shares... a little of his knowledge... HE HAS PLAYED TWO DAMN SLEEPER CELL GAMES. Everything he has to tell us is that Mafia do whatever they please on Day 1. Solid advice here man. On July 17 2012 03:42 GGQ wrote:On July 17 2012 03:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 17 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 03:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town That's bullshit and you know it lol. you have said the word "chaos" or talked about town stability in almost every post you have made. Did you elect yourself town peacekeeper? Because basically every one of your posts has extremely little to do with actually finding and lynching scum Actually I'm playing smart and waiting until I have a solid case before I go after someone. In contrast, you have your idiotic crusade against katina and that's it. Discussion should be currently centered around Palmar for his inability/refusal to play. BH should be a secondary consideration for his random wild play. And of course I still haven't forgot chez and the smurf, I'm interested to see if they start playing as well. This may come as a shock but it's not always a good idea to shit up the thread with random cases. My lack of a formal "case" is way better than your little spat with Katina. What? Why? What would that accomplish? How would that help us find scum? Palmar does that shit all the time. It's stupid and unhelpful but arguing about it has never changed him before and it won't now. ##vote blazinghand He tries to shift focus off from Palmar. He is defending him telling people that Palmar is just like that. That's what Palmar should've probably said, right? Look at how this post ends "has never changed him before and it won't now" it's a decisive NO. And this BH vote. He did explain it, right? On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote:
Why did I vote BH without mentioning even a single word about him? To see what would happen, of course!
Most people's responses were good; just asking me why or making little noises of disgust. The only one who tried to construe it as scummy was Austin the squirming mafia.
Why did I vote BH at all? Because he was being active and throwing his vote around without doing anything and seemed very concerned with his own activity, as if it was justifying something. I believed and still believe he is scum.
I get very bad vibes from HiroPro. His posts all feel like he's just putting in his time.
There's a bunch of other possible mafias in my mind, but another day another noose.
The case on gonzaw feels weaker than the one on austin to me. I prefer to lynch BH or austinmcc, but I'll switch before deadline if it's necessary to get a lynch. TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? Sounds like someone doesn't freaking care about the lynch? Wait, he does care, look at the last line! Why would a person with no thread presence try to defend Palmar? GGQ has NEVER said anything about Palmar. Never EVER. If you were searching for a guy trying to survive - here you go. Why would you lurk as Town in this game? With 1KP, Mafia has little power to do anything to stop you from acting. Sure, they might have roleblockers, maybe politicians or anti-nukers, but it's the cases which should win games. Palmar and Bill Murray are playing similar style, where they mostly post one-liners or troll material. Palmar just now started pushing layabout hard (without proper case, just some meta to back it up). GGQ has a lot of knowledge. It is Day 2 and he hasn't shared ANY of it. He is denying us information. No cases made, no activity in the thread, NOTHING. He is trying for his survival. If he comes guns blazing at any point in the game... I think you'll get it that he's scum. I am voting GGQ. ##vote GGQ Surely all these points can be made against me. So what makes him any more scummy than me?
A valid point if you were townie. But you're not, you're the scummiest player alive behind Kurumi.
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On July 20 2012 06:00 marvellosity wrote:
good. you ask what i particularly like the case.
I quote the part where I said what I particularly liked about the case and why, and you post some drivel. If that's the level of cognitive thought you're capable of this game then ignore away.
IN PARTICULAR! I asked you SPECIFICALLY what you liked about his case! What parts of it did you find alignment indicative? What about it makes you think that you were wrong about MZ, that he's NOT pushing an easy lurky candidate and is NOT scum like you thought?
You're accusing me of being stupid and you're being MALICIOUSLY obtuse! DO YOU WANT ME TO FUCKING DESTROY THE THREAD MARV BECAUSE I'LL FUCKING DO IT
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On July 20 2012 05:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:01 marvellosity wrote:
I'd like to give this some love. I started off reading it sceptically but at the end I was down with it. Meapak demonstrates in rastaban what I would classify as the classic mafia mindset in this setup - not rocking the boat, going with the flow, not drawing attention to yourself with dissent. rastaban this game is classic mafia.
This doesn't sound like you're "perfectly happy to discuss anything with me" marv. This sounds like you're annoyed at even having to respond to my question IN SPITE OF YOU SEEKING OUT MY OPINION.
No, I'm done with you. DONE marv.
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On July 20 2012 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 06:00 marvellosity wrote:
good. you ask what i particularly like the case.
I quote the part where I said what I particularly liked about the case and why, and you post some drivel. If that's the level of cognitive thought you're capable of this game then ignore away. IN PARTICULAR! I asked you SPECIFICALLY what you liked about his case! What parts of it did you find alignment indicative? What about it makes you think that you were wrong about MZ, that he's NOT pushing an easy lurky candidate and is NOT scum like you thought? You're accusing me of being stupid and you're being MALICIOUSLY obtuse! DO YOU WANT ME TO FUCKING DESTROY THE THREAD MARV BECAUSE I'LL FUCKING DO IT
ok let's not ruin the thread. what about my quote didn't you understand?
1) I said the part I particularly liked was where MZ said rastaban was always going with the flow and never dissenting
2) I said that is what I viewed as classic mafia mindset in this setup
3) MZ brought this to the thread where it had not been shown before
I don't understand what you think is missing from this explanation
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Blazinghand
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So I guess that's Zealos' post for today. No response, huh/
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On July 20 2012 06:06 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 20 2012 06:00 marvellosity wrote:
good. you ask what i particularly like the case.
I quote the part where I said what I particularly liked about the case and why, and you post some drivel. If that's the level of cognitive thought you're capable of this game then ignore away. IN PARTICULAR! I asked you SPECIFICALLY what you liked about his case! What parts of it did you find alignment indicative? What about it makes you think that you were wrong about MZ, that he's NOT pushing an easy lurky candidate and is NOT scum like you thought? You're accusing me of being stupid and you're being MALICIOUSLY obtuse! DO YOU WANT ME TO FUCKING DESTROY THE THREAD MARV BECAUSE I'LL FUCKING DO IT ok let's not ruin the thread. what about my quote didn't you understand? 1) I said the part I particularly liked was where MZ said rastaban was always going with the flow and never dissenting 2) I said that is what I viewed as classic mafia mindset in this setup 3) MZ brought this to the thread where it had not been shown before I don't understand what you think is missing from this explanation
"Let's not ruin the thread...but here's more bullshit to respond to."
No, we're done here marv.
##Vote: Kurumi
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On July 20 2012 06:00 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 05:51 Kurumi wrote:GGQ I am very confident that GGQ is scum. His filter is not even one page long. (Actually 5 in-game posts.) "How can you say anything about the guy then, Kurumi?" Some of you have pointed out that Mafia's biggest objective is to survive. You can do it vanilla style - try to blend in during the discussion. You can do it lurker style - just avoid the fire and appear when everything's a little more silent... There's always false townie style, where you basically try to forget about your role and go with the flow while trying to keep in mind who's good target and who's not. As we've seen so far, being a lurker in this game is a GREAT option. We've been attacking each other like mad. If it wasn't an in-game attack, it was an attack on person her/himself. We've got a good player lurking like mad for no reason. It's already Day 2. If he was really occupied, guess what - he'd get replaced, just like two guys already, but he has no reason to ask for one. When I call him out that he is actively lurking(I am going to count how much it takes you to respond to this GGQ by the way) On July 17 2012 03:36 GGQ wrote:On July 17 2012 03:27 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 03:25 GGQ wrote:On July 16 2012 19:13 Probulous wrote:
So in essence I should have kept that to myself?
I find it highly unlikely that mafia will be pushing strong reads day 1 given the setup. For two reasons, one they may be pushing one of their own, two they will be held accountable. So my thinking was to out to the thread so people are aware of it. Yes mafia are too but all this does is limit their options. How exactly does this help me further my agenda if I am mafia?
My experience playing scum in two Sleeper Cell games tells me that this is the opposite of true. If you aren't burdened by knowledge of your teammates, it's much easier to come out strong on day 1. Why are you active lurking? wtf are you talking about? How does that answer sound to you? It's strict denial. He sees nothing wrong with his play. He feels no guilt. Why would he? There's a post by him in this quote too. He shares... a little of his knowledge... HE HAS PLAYED TWO DAMN SLEEPER CELL GAMES. Everything he has to tell us is that Mafia do whatever they please on Day 1. Solid advice here man. On July 17 2012 03:42 GGQ wrote:On July 17 2012 03:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 17 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 03:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 17 2012 03:13 Mattchew wrote:On July 17 2012 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
so mattchew lemme get this right, I'm scummy because I "seems to be trying to look sensible and not shitstorm causing." Umm... duh so basically I'm scum because I'm playing protown? That's some pretty wicked logic there. cause you are playing an easy to fake pro-town without actually doing anything pro-town That's bullshit and you know it lol. you have said the word "chaos" or talked about town stability in almost every post you have made. Did you elect yourself town peacekeeper? Because basically every one of your posts has extremely little to do with actually finding and lynching scum Actually I'm playing smart and waiting until I have a solid case before I go after someone. In contrast, you have your idiotic crusade against katina and that's it. Discussion should be currently centered around Palmar for his inability/refusal to play. BH should be a secondary consideration for his random wild play. And of course I still haven't forgot chez and the smurf, I'm interested to see if they start playing as well. This may come as a shock but it's not always a good idea to shit up the thread with random cases. My lack of a formal "case" is way better than your little spat with Katina. What? Why? What would that accomplish? How would that help us find scum? Palmar does that shit all the time. It's stupid and unhelpful but arguing about it has never changed him before and it won't now. ##vote blazinghand He tries to shift focus off from Palmar. He is defending him telling people that Palmar is just like that. That's what Palmar should've probably said, right? Look at how this post ends "has never changed him before and it won't now" it's a decisive NO. And this BH vote. He did explain it, right? On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote:
Why did I vote BH without mentioning even a single word about him? To see what would happen, of course!
Most people's responses were good; just asking me why or making little noises of disgust. The only one who tried to construe it as scummy was Austin the squirming mafia.
Why did I vote BH at all? Because he was being active and throwing his vote around without doing anything and seemed very concerned with his own activity, as if it was justifying something. I believed and still believe he is scum.
I get very bad vibes from HiroPro. His posts all feel like he's just putting in his time.
There's a bunch of other possible mafias in my mind, but another day another noose.
The case on gonzaw feels weaker than the one on austin to me. I prefer to lynch BH or austinmcc, but I'll switch before deadline if it's necessary to get a lynch. TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? Sounds like someone doesn't freaking care about the lynch? Wait, he does care, look at the last line! Why would a person with no thread presence try to defend Palmar? GGQ has NEVER said anything about Palmar. Never EVER. If you were searching for a guy trying to survive - here you go. Why would you lurk as Town in this game? With 1KP, Mafia has little power to do anything to stop you from acting. Sure, they might have roleblockers, maybe politicians or anti-nukers, but it's the cases which should win games. Palmar and Bill Murray are playing similar style, where they mostly post one-liners or troll material. Palmar just now started pushing layabout hard (without proper case, just some meta to back it up). GGQ has a lot of knowledge. It is Day 2 and he hasn't shared ANY of it. He is denying us information. No cases made, no activity in the thread, NOTHING. He is trying for his survival. If he comes guns blazing at any point in the game... I think you'll get it that he's scum. I am voting GGQ. ##vote GGQ Surely all these points can be made against me. So what makes him any more scummy than me?
(1) GGQ has played in both sleeper cell games. GGQ has been scum in both sleeper cell games. GGQ has particular knowledge of both similar setups AND how mafia play in similar setups. He has not been vocal at all with any of this information. All we know is that in his experience, it's easy to come out strong D1 as mafia (and, if it does anything for you, then plays the EXACT OPPOSITE of how he says he plays mafia D1). Nothing more.
(2) Your reason for voting me D1 was you were just sheeping town sentiment at the time you looked at thread. GGQ's reasoning for his no-reasoning-in-thread vote on BH was:On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote:
Why did I vote BH without mentioning even a single word about him? To see what would happen, of course!
Most people's responses were good; just asking me why or making little noises of disgust. The only one who tried to construe it as scummy was Austin the squirming mafia.
He doesn't say who "most people" are that looked good. He doesn't say who didn't look good, except me.
Overall, he's ... more useful? to town because of (1) than you are, but hasn't been giving any effort to help. So that's worse than you. And his reason for his vote D1 was worse than yours. You claim to have basically done no work to place your vote. He claims to have voted for a reason, to get information, then doesn't seem to have any specific information.
(Also because he's been scum in both sleeper cell games. For those that like speculation for vets, GGQ is the most experienced player in this game at playing scum under similar conditions, although he was not cell leader in either one)
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or you just won't answer for reasons I can't comprehend. you're a very very strange person.
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Blazinghand
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austinmcc you still think Zealos is scum though right?
+ Show Spoiler +On July 19 2012 07:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 06:24 HiroPro wrote:
VE/austin, please read pages 73-74 and tell me what you think of Zealos. This one is just silly. You're asking me what I think about a guy who replaced in, made roughly one post wherein he voted for the guy that "seemed to have a decent case on him"/"seemed most scummy recently," never voted in the votethread, never returned during the day, and, upon returning, has called kurumi an "influential town player." Nobody can look at that and go - #1 town read! If he goes with his stated plan: Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 05:26 Zealos wrote:
I'll just go ahead and vote for BH at the start of day2 then leave you guys to it. bb, then that's just pretty terrible and I'd love to see him lynched or shot. But tbh, all his scumminess seems to come from doing absolutely nothing. Like, less than minimal effort. Not posting. Not reading the thread. Not voting. That's a LOT of attention to call to oneself, to not vote. So even those his lack of contribution is scummy, I'd rather he's not up for lynch this cycle. We've already got scum in Kurumi, who we thought would die so didn't lynch yesterday, so there's 1 kill. I still think GGQ looks incredibly scummy, and i haven't seen anyone (there may have been one post in which someone just said "GGQ always plays like this") defend GGQ or call him town. So I don't see why that isn't kill #2. Just because he's "obvious" or "easy to build a case on," doesn't mean we shouldn't lynch him... That leaves Zealos, at the very least, third for me. So for now I'll find him scummy, but want to lynch others over him, and see if he actually contributes/reads thread/does anything.
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On July 20 2012 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:
austinmcc you still think Zealos is scum though right?
Less scummy than GGQ, but yeah. To me, GGQ is scum, and that read seems unlikely to change. Zealos is scummy, but with a possibility of that read changing? They're entering the game with different experience, and so even though they're both contributing about equally this game, I'm getting slightly different levels of scumread on them.
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On July 20 2012 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
or you just won't answer for reasons I can't comprehend. you're a very very strange person.
Because you called me stupid for no reason. I'm stepping away so I don't lose my shit.
Now stop instigating.
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On July 20 2012 06:18 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:
austinmcc you still think Zealos is scum though right?
Less scummy than GGQ, but yeah. To me, GGQ is scum, and that read seems unlikely to change. Zealos is scummy, but with a possibility of that read changing? They're entering the game with different experience, and so even though they're both contributing about equally this game, I'm getting slightly different levels of scumread on them.
That's a fair point. I suppose I should do a reread of GGQ to see what he's done this game, but if he's played the same way as Zealos, then he too must be scum.
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On July 20 2012 06:08 Blazinghand wrote:
So I guess that's Zealos' post for today. No response, huh/
Whats my proper response to you saying "You're most scummy behind kumrai?"
"No, you're wrong"
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On July 20 2012 06:25 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 06:08 Blazinghand wrote:
So I guess that's Zealos' post for today. No response, huh/ Whats my proper response to you saying "You're most scummy behind kumrai?" "No, you're wrong"
or you could literally contribute anything to the discussion rather than nothing which is you for the last like oh wait that's all you've done this game is nothing
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On July 20 2012 06:19 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 06:18 austinmcc wrote:On July 20 2012 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:
austinmcc you still think Zealos is scum though right?
Less scummy than GGQ, but yeah. To me, GGQ is scum, and that read seems unlikely to change. Zealos is scummy, but with a possibility of that read changing? They're entering the game with different experience, and so even though they're both contributing about equally this game, I'm getting slightly different levels of scumread on them. That's a fair point. I suppose I should do a reread of GGQ to see what he's done this game, but if he's played the same way as Zealos, then he too must be scum.
Re-reading GGQ is quick, given that he has 5 posts, 2 of which have are shorter than 3 lines 
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On July 20 2012 06:31 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 06:19 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 06:18 austinmcc wrote:On July 20 2012 06:13 Blazinghand wrote:
austinmcc you still think Zealos is scum though right?
Less scummy than GGQ, but yeah. To me, GGQ is scum, and that read seems unlikely to change. Zealos is scummy, but with a possibility of that read changing? They're entering the game with different experience, and so even though they're both contributing about equally this game, I'm getting slightly different levels of scumread on them. That's a fair point. I suppose I should do a reread of GGQ to see what he's done this game, but if he's played the same way as Zealos, then he too must be scum. Re-reading GGQ is quick, given that he has 5 posts, 2 of which have are shorter than 3 lines
Yeah. Welp I must say his explanation for his vote and 30 hour silence on me are enormously underwhelming. What is it with shitty unexplainable bad votes and me this game? Have mafia just determined I look like an easy wagon to hide on?
Lynch them both imo.
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D3 Lynch IMO IMO
Foolishness
syllogism
GGQ
I vastly prefer Foolishness, as I feel he has the highest probability of flipping scum AND some sort of Executive. syllogism is like...syllogism. He's capable of looking town (to me) regardless of alignment. People like Palmar who know his mind better than me are able to read him better. And if he's scum, you'd better believe he's an Executive. GGQ is starting to look like a good lynch too, and him being in two previous Sleeper-Cell games lends credibility to the idea that he could have some sort of Executive role this game.
However based on pure skill and experience, I much prefer a Foolishness lynch if we're aiming for the higher-ups tomorrow. I think that's the best play because A) it will greatly cripple the mafia communication structure (in theory) and B) due to the Executives having the most information of the scums, they should be the easiest to find via standard, universally accepted means of scumhunting (association, VCA, etc.), again, in theory.
I don't think MZ is playing like he rolled executive. I think he'd be playing more passively as an Executive, the way Foolish is. He's definitely good enough, but I just don't think that's what's going on here. If we lynch Foolish D3 and he flips town, my D4 lynch list will probably look very different.
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