|
Tomorrow we are not going to be in as bad a situation as today. We are in a very precarious scenario that hinges on the true colours of two wild cards, you guys think that just because hawk and schorz are getting mod killed they are not a problem, I have already proven that they are and that they can pop up and vote last second in which case we are royally screwed if a townie has like 4 votes just hanging on their neck.
One more scenario, we all choose not to vote, schorz or hawk or both pop up just before the deadline and vote confirming themselves as scum and saving thier own skins for a short while, we lose a townie tonight, we are 5 4 and we have no hesitation whats so ever in lynching hawk or schworz, lastly I really don't mind being in this situation tomorrow because one way or another we really wont have to worry about these wild cards.
No lynch is our safest option, our worst option is just leaving 4 votes on someone, which is like asking schorz or hawk or both to jump in and cut off their neck, in which case gg we lose.
|
Am I not making sense? Someone please, sloosh ech, cmon how am I talking nonsense?
Oh sloosh etch, just in case theres any doubt in your mind as to matt bieng mafia, you should probably be aware that if your two votes stay on him than mafia can jump on board last second and win the game. That goes for trak as well.
|
HOLY BANANAS I JUST REALIZED I GOT THE MARINE ICON!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!
|
Lol gumshoe you realized 50 posts late. I will be here to address your thoughts on the whole lynching hawk schorz.
Post coming soon.
|
i guess im just assuming the worst that they are not both scum... Either way is a risk.. you want to risk them being mod-killed as scum or do you wanna risk lynching someone today
|
On February 25 2012 02:39 Mattchew wrote:
i guess im just assuming the worst that they are not both scum... Either way is a risk.. you want to risk them being mod-killed as scum or do you wanna risk lynching someone today
if they are both not scum gg, we lose nothing we can do. Because if they do show up an hour before the deadline with a huge case against sloosh be sure I will make it my sole mission to see them lynched tommorow even if they do turn out to be green in only name, why would they be gone this long only to return later if they were town? More likely they are ragequit mafia or waiting to the last second to vote. So our options are either no lynch, or lynch one of them in case they are mafia and try to pop up a vote last second to stay in the game in which case they are mafia and we should be lynching them, furthermore our odds are great of hitting scum, 50-100 percent or we've already lost. This is our best option, now is not the time for case building it is the time for common sense. Unless marshal finds replacements which seems unlikely.
|
Seriously though, mafia if marshal brings replacements into the mix please kill me tonight. The headache will not be worth it.
|
Also I wouldn't mind joining the newbie mafia that just popped up ( :
|
We are at 6 town, 4 scum.
Right now we need 6 to lynch, which means we need all 6 townies.
Mafia win if we mislynch here. It will be 5:4 and then one of us dies at night making it 4:4. Mafia win condition fulfilled.
Mafia gain huge dividends by no lynch. While it does put us at 5:4 and gives us another day to talk, it also means mafia get one free kill. Additionally, an extra day of discussion is not worth an additional townie life, especially as it gives another day for mafia to clutter/ confuse the thread and there will be one less townie. Mafia are trying to stall and no lynch is basically setting us up for a loss.
I've PMed GMarshal about the situation, as a similar thing arose in NMMIII where some inactives caused this kind of ruckus. It was resolved by reducing the required # to lynch to the majority of those voting. Here is the post. Hopefully we will hear good news and not have to resort to such risky lynching.
As for who we should lynch:
On February 25 2012 00:44 gumshoe wrote:
Also what do we lose if we mislynch matt? A really active and useful albeit amateurish townie.
My point is that this is what scum look like. They give off the impression that they are helpful and active, but don't ever bother going the final step of taking the information and content in the thread and making a case to lynch mafia. I think EchelonTee makes a good point in noting how Mattchew's style of play has been with his suspicion on ET. It is weak and speculatory, inviting other people to look at him, but he doesn't vote for it himself until ET calls him out.
Gumshoe, don't worry about the replacement scenario. If we were in an unwinnable situation, the hosts would have called it game by now. I am sure they are doing their best to resolve it and we should trust in them as they are the hosts.
Now please turn your attention to the Mattchew case. You are a pivotal vote and you could determine fate of town.
|
On February 25 2012 02:59 slOosh wrote:We are at 6 town, 4 scum.Right now we need 6 to lynch, which means we need all 6 townies. Mafia win if we mislynch here. It will be 5:4 and then one of us dies at night making it 4:4. Mafia win condition fulfilled. Mafia gain huge dividends by no lynch. While it does put us at 5:4 and gives us another day to talk, it also means mafia get one free kill. Additionally, an extra day of discussion is not worth an additional townie life, especially as it gives another day for mafia to clutter/ confuse the thread and there will be one less townie. Mafia are trying to stall and no lynch is basically setting us up for a loss. I've PMed GMarshal about the situation, as a similar thing arose in NMMIII where some inactives caused this kind of ruckus. It was resolved by reducing the required # to lynch to the majority of those voting. Here is the post. Hopefully we will hear good news and not have to resort to such risky lynching. As for who we should lynch: Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 00:44 gumshoe wrote:
Also what do we lose if we mislynch matt? A really active and useful albeit amateurish townie. My point is that this is what scum look like. They give off the impression that they are helpful and active, but don't ever bother going the final step of taking the information and content in the thread and making a case to lynch mafia. I think EchelonTee makes a good point in noting how Mattchew's style of play has been with his suspicion on ET. It is weak and speculatory, inviting other people to look at him, but he doesn't vote for it himself until ET calls him out. Gumshoe, don't worry about the replacement scenario. If we were in an unwinnable situation, the hosts would have called it game by now. I am sure they are doing their best to resolve it and we should trust in them as they are the hosts. Now please turn your attention to the Mattchew case. You are a pivotal vote and you could determine fate of town.
lol .. idc what you all think of me but if your listening to this then we lost long ago
|
On February 25 2012 02:59 slOosh wrote:
Now please turn your attention to the Mattchew case. You are a pivotal vote and you could determine fate of town.
ever feel like your being recruited? Darth Vader called, he wants his marketing team back
|
and sloosh
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
don't bring that shit up in thread that you PM'd GM... thats bullshit
|
I never said posted or shared a PM i received. I said I sent a PM to him hoping to hear back good news from him.
|
United States22154 Posts
Sorry but those players still count towards the total needed to lynch, since modkills are resolved after the lynch
|
1. Am here.Finally.
Problems with internet since I have been travelling by plane.
I dont want town to lose, so I got on.
No lynch is a TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE idea.One vote would swing it all.Imo, as bad as it could be.
Even now, we have to nail all 4 scum.
Still have not caught up on the thread but i´ll read all of last 2 days till deadline.
|
P.S. I see you spend a lot of time and attention shutting me down but almost no effort in trying to convince me that ET is scum.
Seeing as you haven't called me out as being mafia on the same team with ET, I can only infer that you are scum playing with weak accusations. If you indeed think that I am town, you should be trying your hardest to get my cooperation by strengthening your case and why ET is a liar that I shouldn't listen to, not calling me names and making fun of my play.
You guys still think this man is town? Think again.
|
Mattchew usually has constructive, or at least tries to appear constructive as scum,
it just doesnt fit his meta right now.
LYLO-not him, not really.
|
yes i think that sloosh and et are scum. Why would i need to convince you sloosh? You and ET could not be playing anymore self-centered this game holy shit
|
On February 25 2012 02:59 slOosh wrote:We are at 6 town, 4 scum.Right now we need 6 to lynch, which means we need all 6 townies. Mafia win if we mislynch here. It will be 5:4 and then one of us dies at night making it 4:4. Mafia win condition fulfilled. Mafia gain huge dividends by no lynch. While it does put us at 5:4 and gives us another day to talk, it also means mafia get one free kill. Additionally, an extra day of discussion is not worth an additional townie life, especially as it gives another day for mafia to clutter/ confuse the thread and there will be one less townie. Mafia are trying to stall and no lynch is basically setting us up for a loss. I've PMed GMarshal about the situation, as a similar thing arose in NMMIII where some inactives caused this kind of ruckus. It was resolved by reducing the required # to lynch to the majority of those voting. Here is the post. Hopefully we will hear good news and not have to resort to such risky lynching. As for who we should lynch: Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 00:44 gumshoe wrote:
Also what do we lose if we mislynch matt? A really active and useful albeit amateurish townie. My point is that this is what scum look like. They give off the impression that they are helpful and active, but don't ever bother going the final step of taking the information and content in the thread and making a case to lynch mafia. I think EchelonTee makes a good point in noting how Mattchew's style of play has been with his suspicion on ET. It is weak and speculatory, inviting other people to look at him, but he doesn't vote for it himself until ET calls him out. Gumshoe, don't worry about the replacement scenario. If we were in an unwinnable situation, the hosts would have called it game by now. I am sure they are doing their best to resolve it and we should trust in them as they are the hosts. Now please turn your attention to the Mattchew case. You are a pivotal vote and you could determine fate of town.
Thank you for confirming that the hosts would not leave us in an unwinable situation, that further solidifies my suspicion that both shworz and hawk are mafia, which is the only way we could successfully lynch a mafia today, that said if you think this is true than it is very possible that they are lurking waiting to vote at the last second. In which case we should vote for one of them
As for a no lynch I agree with you, in most scenarios it is the wrong move because town ends up in the same situation with one less voter and the same problems, that is not the case here, as I have pointed out multiple times there is only one case scenario where we can successfully vote mafia and that is if both schorz and hawk are mafia, and if were sure they're mafia than we may as well vote for them in case they try just voting last second to stay in the game. If were not sure about them than the correct move is to not vote, because if even one of them is town than the only lynch we can accomplish is a mislynch.
But tomorrow if a mafia and a town get modkilled and then one townie dies tonight, well be at 4 3. We can win in that scenario.
waiting is the right move here, schorz and hawk will either reveal themselves last minute confirming their guilt or be modkilled. Either way by waiting something massive happens that confirms their guilt or inocence which isn't the case with your typical no lynch.
Yes the mods could change something, but they are not going to for todays vote, so we have to fend for ourselves.
I am not gonna play into the mafias hands, I am not voting in an environment this chaotic when we need only wait one more day for everything to become clearer. Sloosh please to listen to what I'm saying, a no lynch keeps us alive if hawk or schorz is town and the other is mafia while a successful lynch in that scenario is impossible and a lynch still leaves us in a great position if hawk and scwhorz is mafia.
And if there both town? Than we shouldnt even be having this conversation.
You say the mods will intervene, if they were going to intervene they would do so already, this is crunch time, I am going to gamble the game on the hosts wims.
The most important point of all this I can possibly stress is that we can only lynch mafia if we are sure that hawk and schworz are scum, and if we are sure they're scum THEN WE LYNCH THEM. So that they cant pop up last second and sway the vote.
Oh and there is one possible checkmate scenario
Lets say we do have a one townie one scum turn out, if the townie doesn't speak up and the scum votes to stay in the game than well be at 4 4 tommorow, lylo
WTF schorz you have a lot to answer for.
|
On February 25 2012 03:29 slOosh wrote:
I never said posted or shared a PM i received. I said I sent a PM to him hoping to hear back good news from him.
wtf could be good coming from GM..
Possible answers
"they are going to be modkilled"
this sucks cause if they arent scum we auto-lose
"they said they'll post"
this sucks cause itll be last minute (hi rg) and we basically have nothing to read on them
Good news for you is that they are both town and getting modkilled cause that means you win
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
