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On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote: The Day 1 deadline is at January 08 2012 10:00. (That's approximately 1 day, 1:02:42 from now.) We've got 25 hours. Please, tell me why I'm terrible. | ||
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On January 07 2012 09:10 layabout wrote: It may not be your style to post a lot day1 but perhaps your could elaborate. Other than relative inactivity what make Erandorr scum? The fact that every post he makes is hustlin us? | ||
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On January 07 2012 09:12 Grackaroni wrote: @HoD + Show Spoiler + If someone beside HoD is reading this, the question I am answering is "why I thought Bluelightz play as scum would be bad for town?" I really hate the quote formating inside of the spoiler so I'm going to avoid posting long quotes from student. On December 14 2011 09:44 Bluelightz wrote: sorry just didnt feel like posting (>_<) On December 08 2011 00:05 Bluelightz wrote: PS: if i don't post much it's because I don't really have a good scumread on anyone if I do I'll post my analysis On December 14 2011 15:57 Bluelightz wrote: sorry BH, didnt notice your case till now so, ##Vote: Tunkeg BH, is there any other of his posts that make you have a scumread on him? also, after looking @ BHs case m mind is decided for this day On December 08 2011 18:57 Bluelightz wrote: ey215 is leaning scum, when he says I Am Town but then, I quote Grackaroni On December 07 2011 03:43 Grackaroni wrote: NOBODY IS A CONFIRMED TOWNIE He openly showed no issue with lurking He openly sheep's other people Further when he posts his own cases they always end up being null. sometimes he took completely random parts of our posts out and used them for the main basis of his read. Maybe he did most of these things purely because he was scum but I think he could at least realize that his play wasn't resembling pro-town play Anyways if you really want to I could go over everyone one of his posts from the last game and tell you what bugged me about them. But the point is that I should not have based his entire play off of only one game from him as scum, and I shouldn't have brought my annoyance with his last game's performance into this game either. Now I get to focus on the game that is actually being played instead of going over this old one. As for Palmar I don't think the meta can conclude that he is scum and he seems much more willing to contribute than errandor. palmar could be our best scumhunter and I don't think a day1 meta read should be enough to risk killing one of our best players Besides people are downplaying his scum play so somebody explain to me why people keep saying that it will be scary if Palmar is scum? I'm going to assume that your issue is the sheeping and not that the case is built off of meta because you are voting for Errandor because of activity meta while criticizing other people for doing the same thing to you. I'm just gonna note that Errandor's level of activity, while unacceptably low, is not the issue. The issue is that he is keeping up the hustle on us | ||
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but I've got my eye on you ##vote E-dawg | ||
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Man don't you read my shit + Show Spoiler + On January 07 2012 02:45 Blazinghand wrote: On January 07 2012 02:25 Zephirdd wrote: That's a misunderstanding from your part. I stated a few times earlier that I thought Palmar's (counter)case was better. That one post you quoted with poor logic is a response to Refallen's question "Would scum stick out their neck?" and I just pointed out that it's perfectly reasonable. Right, and i'm adding that in addition to that, it doesn't even matter, just figure out if the case is good or not and lynch the scum. Addendum: is it concievable that this is a townie on townie situation? Or do we think one of these guys are scum? I guess the question i'm asking is "what are the odds that Mr Wiggles is unintentionally wrong"? Erandorr: Every day he's hustlin hustlin hustlin hustlin hustlin hustlin Guys Erandorr is hustling us. How do you know he's hustling us? Well let us look at his filter. Step 1) He is inactive. OK whatever. Inactivity happens. I accept that. But it's not just the inactivity. It's the hustlin. Day 1 begins January 04 2012 15:00 KST. Erandorr's posts between then and becoming active: + Show Spoiler + On January 05 2012 09:48 Erandorr wrote: The last time I looked the game was full already, didn't even realize I am in this until now. The biggest question for me right now is this: Blazinghand are you WBGs Smurf? Or his long lost brother, maybe? On January 06 2012 09:16 Erandorr wrote: Ya I probably should post sometime soon but I am really tired and want to sleep soon. If anyone has any question for me just go ahead, I will provide content of my own tomorrow. So, he shows up about 18 hours in and asks me some questions. Then, about a day later he stops by makes an obligatory filler post to not get warned. At this point it's unclear whether or not Erandorr is, in fact, hustling us. He's done a good work of keeping up the hustle, you see. Maybe he's just been busy and wanted his only posts to be unhelpful insinuations about ??? And then he becomes active. On January 07 2012 01:39 Erandorr wrote: I actually didn't roll scum. I just missed the start and don't seem to find a way into the game. I already stated with my brilliant 1 liner that I sort of dislike a Wiggles lynch and actually would like to lynch Palmar today. I don't quite know what to do with all the other crap that has been posted, since the only person I have a clear Town read on is you (YES IM TRYING TO BUDDY UP) So, Syllo here is like "hey guys let's go after E-dawg" And you know what E-dawg says? "Oh I just missed the starT" No you didn't miss the start ._. you were here and asking me if I was WBG, then dippped up out of here for a day, then came back and said "brb" and dipped up out of here for another 18 hours. Or rather, you did miss the start, but not in the "oops I missed the target" kind of miss, more like the "oh shit here comes that guy who owes me money i'm gonna dive behind this trash can" kind of miss. Don't be behind the trash can, E-dawg. On January 07 2012 01:55 Erandorr wrote: Out of the two, which is the one you would rather like to lynch and why? This would be an entirely acceptable post for a user with a history of putting on the pressure, and in fact, in context, may indicate some mad nerd balling. Is Erandor, in fact, a mad nerd baller? Let us see, oh wait, Zephirdd is obvious pro-Palmar. To be fair, it seems like Erandorr just missed it. That happens. On the other hand it means he gets no bonus points for a post like this. On January 07 2012 02:11 Erandorr wrote: Why do you think Risk is scummiest and not Tyrran/me? If I am not mistaken then Syllos reasons to rather lynch Palmar have very little to do with the arguments Wiggles brought forward. Ya, mistake on my side, sorry. So, I can see a couple possibilities here. 1) Erandorr's various odd posts have good context and he is a regular bro. 2) Erandorr is a scummy motherfucker and he is hustling us. Hard. This last post? It's more questions no analysis. Not inherently a problem-- I make posts which ask questions and don't analyze somehow. But those aren't the only posts I make. Let's take a look by contextualizing this with Erandorr's analysis posts. Oh no wait Erandorr hasn't done any analysis. He hasn't gone after anyone. He hasn't voted here in the thread. He is hustling us. E-dawg why are you hustling | ||
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On January 07 2012 09:18 Grackaroni wrote: Errandor continually comes into the thread and makes a post promising content to avoid modkill and disappears, the same goes for RoL as well but the only difference is that Errandor has a meta for lurking as scum. I'm glad someone here can see reason. In other words, E-dawg is hustling us. He is keeping up the hustle. Check out my post above, or 7 hours ago, for more details. | ||
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On January 07 2012 09:16 Blazinghand wrote: No you didn't miss the start ._. you were here and asking me if I was WBG, then dippped up out of here for a day, then came back and said "brb" and dipped up out of here for another 18 hours. Or rather, you did miss the start, but not in the "oops I missed the target" kind of miss, more like the "oh shit here comes that guy who owes me money i'm gonna dive behind this trash can" kind of miss. Don't be behind the trash can, E-dawg. EBWOP: Erandorr owes the other guy money, rather than the other guy owing Erandorr money in this hypothetical. If Erandorr were the creditor obviously he wouldn't be hiding behind a dumpster. | ||
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Hell Syllo what's the deal with your vote? It.s.. SYLLY OK seriously though are we just not voting or whats the deal here | ||
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So Grack what are your thoughts on Mr. Wiggles. If you want mine you can refer to my enormous Wiggls vs Palmar post but I want to know what you think. If you already posted and I somehow missed it link me up. My thoughts on the Wigglemeister: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=298603¤tpage=27#532 | ||
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YOU ARE ALWAYS PUSHING RISK NUKE WHY ARE YOU VOTING PALMAR WITHOUT ANNOUNCING IT IN THE THREAD | ||
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On December 28 2011 15:42 ZBot wrote: Vote count for the Day 1 Lynch. With 18 alive, 10 votes are required to lynch. Current votes: Erandorr (3): Palmar (3): Mr. Wiggles, Jackal58, Refallen, Grackaroni (1): layabout Mr. Wiggles (1): Zephirdd, RebirthOfLeGenD (1): risk.nuke (1): Tyrran (1): HarbingerOfDoom Bluelightz (0): Dirkzor (0): HarbingerOfDoom (0): The Day 1 deadline is at January 08 2012 10:00. (That's approximately 1 day, 0:20:25 from now.) On January 06 2012 21:47 Refallen wrote: What I want to ask wiggles and jackal is this; obviously, the argument that he was acting unusually (in the sense that he was acting different because of low activity posting and lack of aggressiveness) no longer holds. And palmar has offered a spirited defence of himself, something i noticed he did as town too in tlxlvii. With that in mind, would you still vote for him, and why? Because right now, I am much more comfortable in lynching risk.nuke than Palmar. On January 07 2012 01:55 Refallen wrote: Would someone really end up asking this? And I thought I found something DEEP and USEFUL too =( Then Zeph, would you prefer a lynch of risk.nuke to Palmar//Wiggles right now? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON SILENT SCUM VOTE JUMP WAGON HAMMER ##VOTE REFALLEN I CAUGHT YOU | ||
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On January 06 2012 21:47 Refallen wrote: What I want to ask wiggles and jackal is this; obviously, the argument that he was acting unusually (in the sense that he was acting different because of low activity posting and lack of aggressiveness) no longer holds. And palmar has offered a spirited defence of himself, something i noticed he did as town too in tlxlvii. With that in mind, would you still vote for him, and why? Because right now, I am much more comfortable in lynching risk.nuke than Palmar. This with your vote on Palmar for SEVERAL DAYS? ಠ_ಠ How is anyone buying this guys BS "oh hey guys yeah i'm just gonna park my vote here on Palmar while pushing risk.nuke." Look, that's just crappy play. If you think risk.nuke is scum, but aren't sure, I get why you'd not want to vote him quite yet. But if you are assured he is scummier than Palmar? And you're pressuring people to vote him instead of Palmar? Why would you leave your vote on Palmar? It makes no sense. No sir that will not buy me off. Not at all. On January 07 2012 10:00 Refallen wrote: And yes, right now I do want to lynch risk.nuke rather than Palmar. I'm seeing no harm in leaving my vote on him for now though, since Palmar only has four, hardly close to being scum hammered. (And because I'm lazy to PM ZBot on my IPhone last night lolol) Look even after I call him out he tries to leave his vote on Palmar. What do you think is going on here gentlemen? WHAT DO YOU THINK. You see no harm in leaving your vote on him now, and you're too lazy... to PM Zbot... on your iphone... LAST NIGHT? It's not last night right now, it's right NOW right now. On January 07 2012 10:11 Refallen wrote: My bad. I've only played 2 games so far which involved a voting thread so it didn't hit me to announce my votes before voting. Mmm, you're probably right, but I think the fact that there are two scum teams would have made it harder for that to happen. And yes, right now I don't mind lynching Palmar, but I do rather lynch risknuke. With that said ##UNVOTE PALMAR ##VOTE RISK.NUKE Oh hey you know how many games before I've played which involved a voting thread? You know what I'm not even gonna get involved in this. This isn't even a game with a voting thread. Everything's done via PMs. In a game with a voting thread, if you forget to say you voted in the main thread everyone knows anyways when and who you voted. In a game like this? that is not the case. We've explicitly said you should announce votes in here and you have blatantly disregarded this, despite the fact that other people were announcing their votes. You know what Refallen everything you do here just makes you look scummier and I don't know why everyone else is blind to the truth. Why would you not announce your vote? Why, after admitting you think Palmar is not as scummy as Risk, do you NOT change the vote? Why would you need to be strongarmed into voting for him? You think you have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes with your placations. But you are wrong. See, what Refallen doesn't know is that we are not objects whereby mechanical advantage, pressure, or cutting actions are applied. We are not those basic items that seperates humanity from apes. We do not need to be sharpened. I am telling you, Refallen-- we are not tools. I for one do not fall for your soothsaying. Why so slow to vote risknuke? WHY | ||
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Reading through your filter it seems like you're acting fairly town. ._. You got some reads and pushed them in a reasonable fashion, and respond to people who talk to you. I have no idea why you're so bad at voting and knowing where to put your vote. I'm either severely disappointed in your town play or largely convinced by your scum play. OK so, I think you MIGHT be scum, but you also might be town. I'm substantially more sure of E-dawg being scum because he's hustling us but I still demand explanations for your actions post me-calling-you-out. And if they are insufficient I will devour you. ##Vote: Erandorr Oh hey blazinghand whats this is your vote announced in the thread? yeah man it is oh that's cool that seems like a pro-town thing to do yeah i would say so why would you ever not announce your vote in the thread? dunno. | ||
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On January 07 2012 10:55 Grackaroni wrote: Refallen posted his suspicions of Palmar many times throughout his filter so I don't think this was any kind of underhanded scum tactic just an honest mistake. >.> On January 07 2012 10:49 layabout wrote: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha In all seriousness we need to be choosing our lynch traget between Erandorr and risk.nuke. I shall explain why i think this in the morning MAN ok look at the time I put my vote on him he deserved it and you know it On January 07 2012 11:00 risk.nuke wrote: Slowly and steadily I'm beeing raised to the top, scumagenda *cough* Ah yes clearly the scum conspiracy to bring you to "the top" with 2 votes has come to fruition i'm off for a couple of hours; dinner and that sort of thing. | ||
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As damning as the arguments are against risk, his responses have been evasive, poorly thought out, and overall shitty. risk.nuke, I'm gonna hammer you in a moment. In the off chance that you're town, I'm gonna give you 1 hour and 30 minutes (leaving 20 minutes of breathing room) before I hammer you. Make your cases and write down everything you can about your reads, who you think is scum, etc-- it will be your last contribution, perhaps a chance at redemption for your d1 play if this turns out to be a mislynch. OR, you're scum and you'll just die. :D | ||
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