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Actions and events in TL Mafia XLVIII:
Day 1
18. Soap, Townie, apparently shot by vaderseven
24. Hier, Townie, lynched with 14 of 25 votes including an Anonymous vote
supersoft replaces StimilantE
vaderseven apparently shoots Soap
Palmar claims Floridian
vaderseven claims Jack
Palmar claims responsibility for Anonymous vote on Hier
Night 1
1. supersoft, Townie, killed
12. syllogism, Vigilante, killed
Drazerk claims Roleblock Immune Medic who is required to claim during Night 1
Day 2
2. prplhz, Townie, apparently shot by annul
No lynch
vaderseven claims JOAT
redFF claims to have been roleblocked
annul claims to have been shot
annul claims to have been saved by a medic
Erandorr claims to have been roleblocked
Drazerk claims to have protected vaderseven during Night 1
Palmar claims responsibility for the Anonymous vote on annul
annul clarifies claim about medic save
bumatlarge replaces Erandorr
annul claims JOAT
annul apparently shoots prplhz
annul claims he took no actions during Night 1
xsksc replaces Corrupt
Night 2
4. Radfield, Townie, killed
Day 3
Zephirdd claims Parity Cop
Refallen claims Medic
Refallen claims that he saved Palmar from a hit during Night 2
Palmar claims that he was hit during Night 2
Drazerk claims that he was visited during Night 2
redFF claims to have been roleblocked during Night 2
Toadesstern claims to be a Medic and that he saved annul during Night 1
Drazerk claims to have been roleblocked during Night 2
Toadesstern claims to have protected vaderseven during Night 2
Drazerk attempts to explain his lie
Palmar's claimed actions and results as Floridian
Day 1: Votes for Hier - lynched and flipped Vanilla Town
Day 2: Votes for annul - No lynch
Day 3: I assume that he voted for annul but the Anonymous vote has not been officially claimed
Drazerk's claimed actions and results as Roleblock Immune Medic
Night 1: Protects vaderseven
Night 2: Roleblocked
vaderseven's claimed actions and results as Jack of All Trades
Day 1: Shoot Soap - Vanilla Town
Night 1: I assume that he did not take an action since it was claimed that he cannot use more than 1 action in a day/night cycle
Day 2: ???
Night 2: None
Day 3: ???
annul's claimed actions and results as Jack of All Trades
Day 1: None
Night 1: None
Day 2: annul shoots prplhz - Vanilla Town
Night 2: I assume that he did not take an action since it was claimed that he cannot use more than 1 action in a day/night cycle
Day 3: ???
Zephirdd's claimed actions and results as Parity Cop
Night 1: Check Palmar - No Result
Night 2: Check Radfield - Same
Refallen's claimed actions and results as Medic
Night 1: Protect drazerk
Night 2: Protect Palmar - Success
Toadesstern's claimed actions and results as Medic
Night 1: Protect annul - Success
Night 2: Protect vaderseven
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If your actually going to include my "Claimed" actions as the medic I protected sandroba night 2 I didn't claim roleblock until toad claimed medic.
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so KJ is there like a conclusion coming from this or did you just decide to recap the game
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So kingjames, I assume your best scum read is Refallen right now.
However, no way in hell we are lynching him until the deadline, so the question is: would you lynch redFF or annul?
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I think it is a pretty safe assumption that mafia has at least 2 Night kills as evidenced by supersoft and syllogism's death during Night 1.
However, it seems as though it might also be AT MOST 2 since there was a lack of deaths last night. Doesn't that seem strange? Usually the number of kills is equal to the number of mafia divided by two... Why don't they have 3 kills?
Consider this line of reasoning:
There's been a lot of talk about how Palmar's Floridian role MUST be pro-town. But why should that be so? How good is that assumption?
If the Floridian is actually a mafia role in this game and he is given an extra vote, then that would make up for the fact that they seem to be 1 kill power short. The entire mafia team might be basing their hopes and efforts in establishing Palmar as a figurehead so that we follow him around to our deaths.
So where did the extra kill power go last night? They DID NOT USE IT (or double stacked Radfield).
Why would they do this? What would they accomplish? Ah... Well, let's see what actually did take place assuming Palmar is mafia.
Zephirdd roleclaims Parity Cop and pretends to confirm Palmar. Refallen roleclaims Medic and now the kill power has been accounted for.
Interesting?
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Here is the thing: We have more mafia than usual. 6 out of 25 players. It's only natural that mafia has a lower KP than usual; #mafia/3 rounded up sounds reasonable.
Also, mafia's win condition:
Mafia win condition: You win when you control majority of the voting power in the Town or when nothing can stop you from outright killing everyone.
Means that if Palmar is alive and no mafia died, there can be 6 town players(Palmar included) and Mafia still won't win.
The win cond. also means that Mafia can very well have extra KP abilities(hence why I don't consider annul's JOAT claim to confirm him as green).
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On December 12 2011 09:18 Zephirdd wrote:
So kingjames, I assume your best scum read is Refallen right now.
However, no way in hell we are lynching him until the deadline, so the question is: would you lynch redFF or annul?
If I was willing to vote for either player what would happen?
If I voted for redFF that would make 9 votes.
If I voted for annul that would only make 8. If you switched it would still only be 9 votes.
To the other players:
Is anyone available out there that would cast the 10th vote?
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I'm not going to switch my vote because I just really don't think redff is scum... :/
However, PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T VOTED YET SHOULD VOTE... we don't want any modkills, do we? No, we don't.
That's what I'm most worried about right now.
kingjames, are you assuming Zeph and Refallen are both scum as well in that example?
And because it seems like you missed/ignored this post...
On December 12 2011 09:18 annul wrote:
so KJ is there like a conclusion coming from this or did you just decide to recap the game
I'm curious as well... If I've missed something, I'm sorry.
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Stuff Interesting?
If Palmar is scum I'm Prince Charles.
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##Vote: redFF
Sorry Palmar. Just because I believe you to be town doesn't mean I believe you to be right.
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What would occur if there was a tie on votes ie. 10 vs 10?
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On December 12 2011 09:49 Zephirdd wrote:
What would occur if there was a tie on votes ie. 10 vs 10?
Good question, I'd like to know too.
My guess is the first player to receive 10 votes would get lynched.
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both players die. i asked about that too.
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On December 12 2011 09:41 Lanaia wrote:
I'm not going to switch my vote because I just really don't think redff is scum... :/
why do you think i am scum?
personally, dont just sheep palmar
what makes me scum?
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On December 12 2011 09:49 Zephirdd wrote:
What would occur if there was a tie on votes ie. 10 vs 10?
Any player who receives majority is lynched. If there is no player with majority today (10 votes) no-lynch occurs.
Currently redFF leads with 9 votes. Day ends in less than 3 hours.
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I'm willing to lynch redFF too, though I'm sorry I haven't been able to participate much this day cycle, been busy with a competition. Also, kingjames, your scenario of assuming palmar is Mafia is so much more convoluted than the simple assumption that he is town. I think occam's razor applies here.
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we can get both annul and redFF lynched at the same time? we should work towards that
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Don't think its possible. That means every mafia must also be voting for one of these two, and that seems unrealistic if both are scum.
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They're most likely not both mafia. There wouldn't be as many votes on them as there are.
If both of them were mafia, wouldn't we would have been discussing another candidate today?
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I think it's because of the huge amount of pressure everyone's been putting on the two candidates. Though if it comes down to a double lynch im sure they would switch a vote or two to prevent that.
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