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redFF
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redFF
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
I've been thinking long and hard about reasons for you guys to hold your checks like this, I really have. I have only come up with 2 reasons why this might be the case. 1. You're trolling -Stop. Please. 2.You have no checks to give Here is the more unlikely senario. but its oh so fun. -You saw there wagon and pressure forming day1. you knew you had to be bold. You fake claimed PC. figuring that at least you had a 50% not to get counterclaimed. within that chance, there was either only another PC, a jailkeeper, or a medic. that leaves at least a 2/3 chance the PC will be dissabled due to you claiming, either through kp, or jailkeeper protection. You are not posting your checks now because you have non to give, and you are working frantically to come up with them. Don't quote this and say "lol" dont shrug this off. Post your checks so we can get moving. Because every second you don't you stop looking like town, and more like the kitaman that fakeclaimed watcher in LoTR. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
If we didn't have a check, we could just make up a check, force a mislynch and win the game. We are withholding information because we want statements from GM, kurumi, RoL, and Radfield first. Knowing the results of our checks may influence who they go after. Thus, we keep them in the dark until they comment. k thx | ||
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GreYMisT
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wherebugsgo
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GM we're lynching. We don't care about his opinion. Kurumi and RoL haven't done anything all game so it's not like you can expect them to do something now. Greymist is right. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:10 kitaman27 wrote: -_- If we didn't have a check, we could just make up a check, force a mislynch and win the game. We are withholding information because we want statements from GM, kurumi, RoL, and Radfield first. Knowing the results of our checks may influence who they go after. Thus, we keep them in the dark until they comment. k thx And if they don't shoot you tonight, that allows you to get another check off, making it all the harder for scum. So its concievable that they will just shoot you regardless of anything that actually occurs today. | ||
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redFF
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GreYMisT
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On November 09 2011 09:27 redFF wrote: we might even wait until tonight who knows! ... | ||
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wherebugsgo
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:30 wherebugsgo wrote: Can someone explain to me why GM is not dead yet? Because team red21 wants more time to not give us any info. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
IN no scenario does it make sense for me to claim medic, at night, as scum, because in the best case scenario something like this happens. However as town it means I get to 1.) Save the real medic if he exists 2.) Give the DT a check, either by having him check me and dying or by letting him live and check someone else. In the scenario in which no other blue exist, I gave the dt basically a free check into a pool of 3 players. In a scenario in which a medic exists, the game becomes unwinnable for mafia, unless the medic counterclaims at night. Which chaoser did. If you examine the motivation behind the claim, there is no logic to it as scum, none. There is no reason I would risk a counterclaim like that or you know, a blue dying at night or CALLING FOR THE DT TO CHECK ME, if I were scum and not in a mental asylum. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
im also rereading. or im just trolling and know the scumteam and could end the game right now. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:31 GMarshal wrote: Well it should be obvious I fakeclaimed as town to try to save the medic. IN no scenario does it make sense for me to claim medic, at night, as scum, because in the best case scenario something like this happens. However as town it means I get to 1.) Save the real medic if he exists 2.) Give the DT a check, either by having him check me and dying or by letting him live and check someone else. In the scenario in which no other blue exist, I gave the dt basically a free check into a pool of 3 players. In a scenario in which a medic exists, the game becomes unwinnable for mafia, unless the medic counterclaims at night. Which chaoser did. If you examine the motivation behind the claim, there is no logic to it as scum, none. There is no reason I would risk a counterclaim like that or you know, a blue dying at night or CALLING FOR THE DT TO CHECK ME, if I were scum and not in a mental asylum. Didn't take a clairvoyant to see this load of shit coming. Tell me, if you're town fake claiming, why did scum shoot chaoser and not you? You claimed first, if you're both town then you are the one who should've died. Then tell us in what situation a town fake claim helps town? One mislynch and the game is over. Your fakeclaim has created so much WIFOM it's still unknown who the last scumteam is. In other words, it's an excellent gamble to out the medic (if there is one) and ensure the PC dies before the last crucial day when your scumbuddy can simply ride the bus to victory. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:33 kitaman27 wrote: GM. Who should we lynch today? at this point I'm going to say wbg. He was very carefully giggling to himself and trying to set up the GM/chaoser dichotomy this morning. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:36 wherebugsgo wrote: Didn't take a clairvoyant to see this load of shit coming. Tell me, if you're town fake claiming, why did scum shoot chaoser and not you? You claimed first, if you're both town then you are the one who should've died. Then tell us in what situation a town fake claim helps town? One mislynch and the game is over. Your fakeclaim has created so much WIFOM it's still unknown who the last scumteam is. In other words, it's an excellent gamble to out the medic (if there is one) and ensure the PC dies before the last crucial day when your scumbuddy can simply ride the bus to victory. Yeah, right, keep twisting things. Lets see how this helps town, shall we? Assume a doctor exists. He does not counterclaim at night, I get shot you have 1 dt check that went off 1 dt = 2 confirmed townies if the medic claims and can prove it through crumbs you either have 3 confirmed townies or 2 confirmed townies and a red check. Next night mafia has to shoot doc + 1 dt check into a pool of 2 player, its gg even if a medic *doesn't* exist as long as the other blue doesn't conterclaim/exist I'm still buying a dt check into a pool of 4 players with my life. 50% chance of hitting scum. Basically as long as the blue waited to counterclaim (which any sensible blue would do) I was buying us *at least* a free dt check, an instant victory if a medic existed and did not counterclaim. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:38 GMarshal wrote: Yeah, right, keep twisting things. Lets see how this helps town, shall we? Assume a doctor exists. He does not counterclaim at night, I get shot you have 1 dt check that went off 1 dt = 2 confirmed townies if the medic claims and can prove it through crumbs you either have 3 confirmed townies or 2 confirmed townies and a red check. Next night mafia has to shoot doc + 1 dt check into a pool of 2 player, its gg even if a medic *doesn't* exist as long as the other blue doesn't conterclaim/exist I'm still buying a dt check into a pool of 4 players with my life. 50% chance of hitting scum. Basically as long as the blue waited to counterclaim (which any sensible blue would do) I was buying us *at least* a free dt check, an instant victory if a medic existed and did not counterclaim. Everything after this line: Assume a doctor exists. He does not counterclaim at night, I get shot Matters for shit because 1. Chaoser counterclaimed and 2. You're still alive. The rest of your post is basically a jab at chaoser for counterclaiming you because it outed you as scum, and then total ignorance as to how a parity cop would work. A parity cop doesn't give you scum or town unless you get very specific checks off. It just gives you parity, and quite frankly we don't know what kind of information the PC has. Nice WIFOM, GM, nice WIFOM. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:38 GMarshal wrote: Yeah, right, keep twisting things. Lets see how this helps town, shall we? Assume a doctor exists. He does not counterclaim at night, I get shot you have 1 dt check that went off 1 dt = 2 confirmed townies if the medic claims and can prove it through crumbs you either have 3 confirmed townies or 2 confirmed townies and a red check. Next night mafia has to shoot doc + 1 dt check into a pool of 2 player, its gg even if a medic *doesn't* exist as long as the other blue doesn't conterclaim/exist I'm still buying a dt check into a pool of 4 players with my life. 50% chance of hitting scum. Basically as long as the blue waited to counterclaim (which any sensible blue would do) I was buying us *at least* a free dt check, an instant victory if a medic existed and did not counterclaim. The problem is that nothing apparently went according to plan. Instead of talking about what should have been, let's talk about what is happening now. You should understand the depth of a hole you are in. You think WBG is scum. Who is the other? Kita? Me? Kurumi? | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On November 09 2011 09:43 wherebugsgo wrote: Everything after this line: Matters for shit because 1. Chaoser counterclaimed and 2. You're still alive. The rest of your post is basically a jab at chaoser for counterclaiming you because it outed you as scum, and then total ignorance as to how a parity cop would work. A parity cop doesn't give you scum or town unless you get very specific checks off. It just gives you parity, and quite frankly we don't know what kind of information the PC has. Nice WIFOM, GM, nice WIFOM. I did not expect the medic to go full retard. Sorry, but any sane medic would have waited till morning, you know so he could get the protect off? Also parity cop gives you parity! Yes, very good! Which means that once you have a dead check you are as good as a regular cop! Explain to me how my actions make more sense as scum than as town? You can't because my move makes NO sense as scum. With a solid counterclaim come day I'm dead because I didn't get shot! Why would I ever run that risk, when there is a 2/3 chance of another blue and if I *don't* die theres a pretty large chance I'll get lynched for it. You are stretching trying to get the mislynch off, because you expected a quick hammer. | ||
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