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One interesting thing I have found is that, during the iGrok lynch Kitaman came out and said he saw chaoser kill someone, and clearly indicated that he did not believe his claim. However, he supported the iGrok lynch over chaoser that day. With that kind of information and belief, you would think that you would have pushed for chaoser to die a little more. If it is true that iGrok was planned by scum to die, this line of actions would make sense for kitaman.
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I have to go to lab, so I will be back in a few hours.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 28 2011 02:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita, who did you track night 1
wherebugsgo, he never left his house.
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On September 28 2011 02:09 kitaman27 wrote:wherebugsgo, he never left his house.
Why did you track him, he was 90% sure to die night 1?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 28 2011 02:07 GreYMisT wrote:
One interesting thing I have found is that, during the iGrok lynch Kitaman came out and said he saw chaoser kill someone, and clearly indicated that he did not believe his claim. However, he supported the iGrok lynch over chaoser that day. With that kind of information and belief, you would think that you would have pushed for chaoser to die a little more. If it is true that iGrok was planned by scum to die, this line of actions would make sense for kitaman.
Sigh, so first I'm guilty for pushing chaoser, and now I'm guilty for pushing iGrok? Both had to die. Once most of town agreed that chaoser was the serial killer, I was willing to switch to iGrok.
On September 24 2011 02:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Look, we both agree iGrok can't be allowed to live to engame. If he gets lynched today, then that's fine by me. If there is a chance he is scum, not survivor, it might even be a better choice to kill him first. However, there is no doubt in my mind that chaoser is not town.
It was pretty unlikely that chaoser was scum, rather than serial killer, so I swapped to iGrok first in order to possibly reduce the town kp. Now that iGrok is dead, chaoser obviously needs someone to push in order to save his own hide so he chose the person that is most likely to push him. Trying to argue that I'm not a tracker is nonsense.
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On September 28 2011 02:07 GreYMisT wrote:
One interesting thing I have found is that, during the iGrok lynch Kitaman came out and said he saw chaoser kill someone, and clearly indicated that he did not believe his claim. However, he supported the iGrok lynch over chaoser that day. With that kind of information and belief, you would think that you would have pushed for chaoser to die a little more. If it is true that iGrok was planned by scum to die, this line of actions would make sense for kitaman.
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Did you not read my post on kitaman at all? He doen't "lynch igrok over me", he "votes with the rest of town after pushing unsuccessfully for my lynch." And also that day I FUCKING SHOT A MAFIA! The plan for mafia wasn't to buss iGrok no matter what, it was to buy as many days as possible and then buss him when needed. The mood in thread yesterday was "lynch iGrok" so they didn't have a chance to buy one more day with it.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 28 2011 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:09 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita, who did you track night 1 wherebugsgo, he never left his house. Why did you track him, he was 90% sure to die night 1?
Why was that? With all the confusion he was causing, a scum hit seemed unlikely. I suppose a vig shot was possible, but you don't just ignore the best choice for an information check, hoping that there is a vig in the game and they decide to shoot him night one. My day three check is still alive, however.
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On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.
wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?
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Kitaman, who do you think is mafia? You think chaoser is SK, this is for sure, but who is mafia?
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On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?
If scum think they know where the medic is, they can avoid it...
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On September 28 2011 02:18 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:09 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita, who did you track night 1 wherebugsgo, he never left his house. Why did you track him, he was 90% sure to die night 1? Why was that? With all the confusion he was causing, a scum hit seemed unlikely. I suppose a vig shot was possible, but you don't just ignore the best choice for an information check, hoping that there is a vig in the game and they decide to shoot him night one. My day three check is still alive, however.
Becouse nearly everyone was sure he was 3rd party, and as you know, mafia likes to kill 3rd parties.
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On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?
I know the explanation. Drazerk is scum.
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On September 28 2011 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all? I know the explanation. Drazerk is scum.
No I am just the reason why scum are probably going to win unless we lynch scum today.
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On September 28 2011 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:18 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:09 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita, who did you track night 1 wherebugsgo, he never left his house. Why did you track him, he was 90% sure to die night 1? Why was that? With all the confusion he was causing, a scum hit seemed unlikely. I suppose a vig shot was possible, but you don't just ignore the best choice for an information check, hoping that there is a vig in the game and they decide to shoot him night one. My day three check is still alive, however. Becouse nearly everyone was sure he was 3rd party, and as you know, mafia likes to kill 3rd parties.
Mafia doesn't like to kill 3rd parties...they would rather town dealt with third parties and then they can save their kills for blue roles and strong town players...You should have played in the simple mafia game before playing this closed setup game...
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On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all?
Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I like how chaoser was perfectly fine with my tracker claim when I caught him red handed, but now that he needs a lynch to push, he completely flips.
On September 28 2011 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kitaman, who do you think is mafia? You think chaoser is SK, this is for sure, but who is mafia?
If I had to choose one person, draz seems the most likely. I just can't understand why a town medic would protect igrok night one. He was being completely useless and there was a 0% chance of him being hit. What kind of medic publicly role claims in the thread revealing their role, in order to attempt to confirm the claim of a third party? In addition, he said he claimed because he was obviously going to be hit at night. I just don't see how this makes sense.
Palmar could very well be a scum gollum. Every game I've ever seen him play as scum, he always takes the pro-town stance and busses his scumbuddies at will. The remaining mafia are likely located in the group of lurkers, GGQ, ON, Archon_Toilet, Cheese, heist. With DrH, Radfield, and iGrok already flipping, there has to be at least a couple newer players. I'm not confidant enough to be willing to push any of them, so close to the lynch though. The last thing we need is another last minute swap like on day one and two.
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On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all? Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?
I guess you could factor in the lie I made about having my role changed and them not being certain considering the previous times my roles have been changed was game braking ( Then again they were a caller game / PTP2 ( I'm not counting minor changes that happen in other games ) )
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On September 28 2011 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills. this may be a new concept to you. Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things. For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else. wut...what would this achieve? We knew prpl was Frodo. So you could claim to protect Frodo, who is a good target for scum, but actually protect someone entirely different, when it was pretty clear scum wants Frodo dead. How does that make any sense at all? Also i'd like to add mafia still hit prp. Isn't it weird?
Indubitably
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On September 28 2011 02:26 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:18 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 02:09 kitaman27 wrote:On September 28 2011 02:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Kita, who did you track night 1 wherebugsgo, he never left his house. Why did you track him, he was 90% sure to die night 1? Why was that? With all the confusion he was causing, a scum hit seemed unlikely. I suppose a vig shot was possible, but you don't just ignore the best choice for an information check, hoping that there is a vig in the game and they decide to shoot him night one. My day three check is still alive, however. Becouse nearly everyone was sure he was 3rd party, and as you know, mafia likes to kill 3rd parties. Mafia doesn't like to kill 3rd parties...they would rather town dealt with third parties and then they can save their kills for blue roles and strong town players...You should have played in the simple mafia game before playing this closed setup game...
After some thinking, you are right. I also understand WBG is a good player (yes/no?), that's the other reason i could think of him being killed 1st night. And the fact he at first wasn't making any sense, and at the end of the day he was IMO most pro-town @ day 1.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
[QUOTE]On September 28 2011 02:26 chaoser wrote:
Mafia doesn't like to kill 3rd parties...QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On September 28 2011 02:26 chaoser wrote:
Mafia doesn't like to kill 3rd parties...QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On September 28 2011 02:26 chaoser wrote:
Mafia doesn't like to kill 3rd parties...QUOTE]
I'm trying to get you killed, you're 3rd party. I'm not mafia! Yay chaoser!
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