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On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp?
One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring.
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On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol
Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.
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Basically they gambled with timing. Either Drazerk was bluffing and would protect prplhz, thinking to protect kitaman instead and so an early shot would be good. Or Drazerk WOULD protect prplhz and shooting later was better. All of this hinges on the fact though that they were scared of my shot so they roleblocked me over Drazerk. I don't know if any of this is true but this would be a possible way to explain the shots.
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Bro!
I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman.
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On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring.
That is imo quite a gamble.
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On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.
Just because a person says something doesn't mean they'd do it. It's part of WIFOM and that's how medics get more utility.
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or chaoser, I actually don't mind killing sks
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On September 28 2011 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:43 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:38 Drazerk wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? I wasn't role blocked because they tried to kill me ( They failed thanks to the second medic ) and they role blocked chaoser who was going to kill one of them last night and possibly reduce them a KP. To be more clear, why would mafia hit prplhz when they clearly know you are going to protect him, and they clearly know you are not going to be roleblocked?Could you answer to the actual question please? They didn't know I was going to protect him... lol Of course they did, as you told them before nightkills.
this may be a new concept to you.
Telling people your going to do stuff and actually doing stuff are totally different things.
For all Mafia knew I was trying to throw them off hitting prp by saying I was going to protect him but actually protect someone else.
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On September 28 2011 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring. That is imo quite a gamble.
And not roleblocking me and letting me potentially kill kitaman/one of their member isn't a gamble? Everything in this game is a gamble. Look at all the stuff mafia has done so far. It's all been gambles. iGrok claiming third party off 3 votes is a HUGE gamble.
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On September 28 2011 01:45 Palmar wrote:
Bro!
I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman.
Don't hesitate bro, there is a lot of time left for me to make up my mind. Although i may or may not be here when the dayphase ends, so better be answering. Otherwise all the other noobs may fiollow me and youre gonna get lynched.
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Last 2 sentences were to Drazerk. I fail at formatting.
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On September 28 2011 01:47 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring. That is imo quite a gamble. And not roleblocking me and letting me potentially kill kitaman/one of their member isn't a gamble? Everything in this game is a gamble. Look at all the stuff mafia has done so far. It's all been gambles. iGrok claiming third party off 3 votes is a HUGE gamble.
That one i'd rather call a stupid gamble.
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On September 28 2011 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:47 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring. That is imo quite a gamble. And not roleblocking me and letting me potentially kill kitaman/one of their member isn't a gamble? Everything in this game is a gamble. Look at all the stuff mafia has done so far. It's all been gambles. iGrok claiming third party off 3 votes is a HUGE gamble. That one i'd rather call a stupid gamble.
Which one is a stupid gamble? Please post more clearly and not just in one liners. I have a hard time understanding/following your thoughts
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On September 28 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring. That is imo quite a gamble. And not roleblocking me and letting me potentially kill kitaman/one of their member isn't a gamble? Everything in this game is a gamble. Look at all the stuff mafia has done so far. It's all been gambles. iGrok claiming third party off 3 votes is a HUGE gamble. That one i'd rather call a stupid gamble. Which one is a stupid gamble? Please post more clearly and not just in one liners. I have a hard time understanding/following your thoughts
No one understands Rayn anymore
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On September 28 2011 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:45 Palmar wrote:
Bro!
I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman. Don't hesitate bro, there is a lot of time left for me to make up my mind. Although i may or may not be here when the dayphase ends, so better be answering. Otherwise all the other noobs may fiollow me and youre gonna get lynched.
yeah whatever. This is fucking terrible, the entire game has consisted of bad town decisions because they're afraid of being wrong.
Just trust me, I'm awesome at this.
Kitaman is scum. Drazerk isn't.
Whatever, this is stupid. I'm off, enjoy fucking failing again town.
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On September 28 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:47 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:43 chaoser wrote:On September 28 2011 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:28 Palmar wrote:
it makes no sense for mafia to claim what drazerk has claimed. If he was actually mafia he could've just said he protected me (I got iGrok lyncheD), chaoser (could be a vigi, although he's an SK), or Kita (claimed tracker).
Drazerkery is not scum, he's bad, but not scum.
Mafia claiming has been senseless througout the game already. How would you explain the fact that Drazerk protected prplhz, was not RB, and still there was a mafia hit on prp? One simple way that might be possible is because they wanted to use their roleblock for me. I was more of a THREAT. They thought I was going to shoot kitaman last night and that would have meant they would be down to 1 KP tonight for sure. So they roleblocked me. Better to protect one of their own than to make sure they 100% kill someone. They then shoot prp and supersoft, knowing that gollum would obviously be going for frodo. They were hoping that they, if there was a protect like drazerk said there would be, would be the later shot when compared to gollum. That way they would get the ring. Obviously gollum was better at timing and got the later shot, getting the ring. That is imo quite a gamble. And not roleblocking me and letting me potentially kill kitaman/one of their member isn't a gamble? Everything in this game is a gamble. Look at all the stuff mafia has done so far. It's all been gambles. iGrok claiming third party off 3 votes is a HUGE gamble. That one i'd rather call a stupid gamble. Which one is a stupid gamble? Please post more clearly and not just in one liners. I have a hard time understanding/following your thoughts
Sorry. I think iGrok claiming BALROG was a stupid gamble. And that's why i think mafia realized they need to use more than 1 person to get him at least another day or 2. That's what i'm thinking Radfield, Drazerk and maybe kitaman, or someone else are doing right now.
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On September 28 2011 01:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:45 Palmar wrote:
Bro!
I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman. Don't hesitate bro, there is a lot of time left for me to make up my mind. Although i may or may not be here when the dayphase ends, so better be answering. Otherwise all the other noobs may fiollow me and youre gonna get lynched. yeah whatever. This is fucking terrible, the entire game has consisted of bad town decisions because they're afraid of being wrong. Just trust me, I'm awesome at this. Kitaman is scum. Drazerk isn't. Whatever, this is stupid. I'm off, enjoy fucking failing again town.
How can you seriously expect us to listen to you if you post like this? If I came in here and posted this stuff I can guarantee you would be jumping all over it.
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On September 28 2011 01:57 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 01:53 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2011 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 28 2011 01:45 Palmar wrote:
Bro!
I'm trying to help you here, drop the Drazerk issue, just kill Kitaman. Don't hesitate bro, there is a lot of time left for me to make up my mind. Although i may or may not be here when the dayphase ends, so better be answering. Otherwise all the other noobs may fiollow me and youre gonna get lynched. yeah whatever. This is fucking terrible, the entire game has consisted of bad town decisions because they're afraid of being wrong. Just trust me, I'm awesome at this. Kitaman is scum. Drazerk isn't. Whatever, this is stupid. I'm off, enjoy fucking failing again town. How can you seriously expect us to listen to you if you post like this? If I came in here and posted this stuff I can guarantee you would be jumping all over it.
To be truthful, I'm currently also really annoyed by the rest of town for being, for a lack of a better word, stupid. That fact that people are being non-commital about a vote, especially with such a strong case on Kitaman's wack ass claim as well as when he posted his tracking results followed by a complete backstep on several things he said he would do but then never did.
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Kita, who did you track night 1
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On September 28 2011 01:30 Palmar wrote:
List of people you're allowed to lynch:
Kitaman (Mafia)
Chaoser (SK)
obviously we should just kill kitaman, as chaoser can be lynched as soon as he has a bad shot.
How about we lynch him BEFORE he has a bad shot? He admitted earlier that a SK will probably be aiming for town. If we mislynch today, its incredibly likely that we won't have another opporunity like this. draz and chaoser should be the only two people considered with the cycle being 7/8ths over. I'm not sold on heist enough yet to be willing to risk a lynch over a sure thing.
On September 28 2011 01:46 Palmar wrote:
or chaoser, I actually don't mind killing sks
Could have fooled me.
Also, why are we all automatically assuming Gollum isn't scum?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings#Main_characters
Under the antagonists we have
Sauron (DrH)
Wormtongue (Radfield)
Saruman (mentioned in igrok's flip)
Gollum
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