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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#81
it's ok I'm town
Computer says mafia
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#82
On August 16 2011 20:37 syllogism wrote:
I asked decon, and it turns out even mafia NK(s) targets traits, so they can't target specific players unless they know one of their traits.


Deconduo, can you confirm this?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 16 2011 19:43 GMT
#83
On August 17 2011 04:38 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 20:37 syllogism wrote:
I asked decon, and it turns out even mafia NK(s) targets traits, so they can't target specific players unless they know one of their traits.


Deconduo, can you confirm this?


hi scum
Computer says mafia
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 16 2011 19:45 GMT
#84
On August 17 2011 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 04:38 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 16 2011 20:37 syllogism wrote:
I asked decon, and it turns out even mafia NK(s) targets traits, so they can't target specific players unless they know one of their traits.


Deconduo, can you confirm this?


hi scum


Then vote for me and stop spamming.
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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 19:45 GMT
#85
On August 16 2011 17:39 Palmar wrote:
You live at Number 6, which is a Red house.


The paintjob is kinda shitty imo.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 16 2011 19:45 GMT
#86
k

##Vote bumatlarge
wat
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 19:46 GMT
#87
On August 17 2011 04:45 OriginalName wrote:
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On August 16 2011 17:39 Palmar wrote:
You live at Number 6, which is a Red house.


The paintjob is kinda shitty imo.


Oh wait i read that wrong .-.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
August 16 2011 19:52 GMT
#88
I thought everyone received two traits. And judging from the responses, I'm pretty sure all of us got house # and color. Can someone speak up if this is wrong? I strongly recommend that blue roles interact with only these traits at the moment.

The mafia have probably already consolidated all their information. Because we are limited to only our individual clues, mafia will solve the puzzle before us. This implies that town at some point will have to share information.

Mass claim to even the playing field? No. Not because it'll let the mafia solve the puzzle (they already have an advantage) but because there is no way to enforce the truth. Mafia can easily switch traits with their buddies and hopelessly confuse the entire town.

So far, all the mafia know are the house # and color of everyone non-mafia. This gives town a big, big advantage. Theoretically, all the blue roles can claim a night action publicly. Since mafia will have to follow traits, the best they can do is take a crap shoot into the entire town pool.
That is, if no one claims. So I strongly urge that no one claims anything to anyone (even PMs) at least for this day and the first night.

This doesn't mean I'm supporting all the blues outing themselves. If you are a blue DO NOT CLAIM because you think you are "anonymous". Let's first discuss blue policy because we have a lot of leeway in their protection even after they reveal.

Personally, I think the best solution is just the DT revealing himself after the night. He can't reveal any of his traits. In fact no one else should know anyone else's traits. We all mass claim to him in PMs. Feel free to try and help him with the clues. If his checks turn out scum, we lynch. If they turn out town, the DT can tell everyone this person is confirmed townie. And since no one knows the town's traits, he is relatively safe. The DT also then has someone to share his clues with. He'll have to sort through the mafia lies as best he can. This is the best way I see of countering the innate mafia advantage has in the puzzle solving department while also taking advantage of the "traits" mechanic.


One more thing of an unrelated note. Don't assume you know which houses are which # based on the layout. I asked.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 16 2011 19:58 GMT
#89
I was gonna mention that as well, I got house+color as well.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 16 2011 20:05 GMT
#90
I think it's inevitable for mafia to eventually fakeclaim this game. That's the advantage they have is they are not checkable, only via traits, just like town is killable only through traits.

I think it would be best for a mass roleclaim right now. As soon as deconduo answers the question. Us being able to lynch individuals but scum only being able to shoot traits is pretty big for town. It's just important to look towards how we would sort everything out.
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TheCrimsonReaper
Profile Joined May 2011
United States167 Posts
August 16 2011 20:25 GMT
#91
On August 17 2011 05:05 bumatlarge wrote:
I think it's inevitable for mafia to eventually fakeclaim this game. That's the advantage they have is they are not checkable, only via traits, just like town is killable only through traits.

I think it would be best for a mass roleclaim right now. As soon as deconduo answers the question. Us being able to lynch individuals but scum only being able to shoot traits is pretty big for town. It's just important to look towards how we would sort everything out.

I don't get it, what is the benefit of roleclaiming?
"The emperor protects"
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 16 2011 20:35 GMT
#92
On August 17 2011 05:25 TheCrimsonReaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 05:05 bumatlarge wrote:
I think it's inevitable for mafia to eventually fakeclaim this game. That's the advantage they have is they are not checkable, only via traits, just like town is killable only through traits.

I think it would be best for a mass roleclaim right now. As soon as deconduo answers the question. Us being able to lynch individuals but scum only being able to shoot traits is pretty big for town. It's just important to look towards how we would sort everything out.

I don't get it, what is the benefit of roleclaiming?


Not being shot because you roleclaim, the whole reason behind not claiming in normal games. That isn't a factor here if what syllo says is true. Either way this flops, this puts massive suspicion on syllogism for asking that question. I'm not certain how you would know to ask that or why you are asking it privately. Please exlain your reasoning syllo, and until then Im putting my vote on you.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 16 2011 20:36 GMT
#93
That is if we were even able to vote now... :X
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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 20:50 GMT
#94
Why are people claiming this kind of thing to anybody, if anything waiting for D2 clues to pop up is a much better idea to solve the puzzle. In the mean time we should be hunting scum and actually trying to play the game.

The sub game is starting to distract us from our goal of finding scum. We need to start actually hunting.

Palmar is just acting abnormally imo, all he wants is claims and does really nothing to make him confirmed or anything. Palmar I want an explanation on why you've been acting the way you are.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 16 2011 21:12 GMT
#95
Because I'm awesome.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 16 2011 21:28 GMT
#96
I don't like mass-claiming.

I think one of wiggles, on and brownbear is scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 16 2011 21:28 GMT
#97
Bumatlarge is town, I think
Computer says mafia
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 16 2011 21:32 GMT
#98
Me too, and palmar is town methinks. I think heist might have slipped or something on IRC cause after I suggested mafia would do better with all the traits in the open he said "three heads are better then one" where no one has mentioned mafia numbers. I mean 3 is a logical assumption but still puts him on my radar. Still waiting for syllo or deconduo to come back and explain the mafia KP.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 16 2011 21:45 GMT
#99
On August 17 2011 04:38 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 20:37 syllogism wrote:
I asked decon, and it turns out even mafia NK(s) targets traits, so they can't target specific players unless they know one of their traits.


Deconduo, can you confirm this?


Yes
TheCrimsonReaper
Profile Joined May 2011
United States167 Posts
August 16 2011 21:53 GMT
#100
On August 17 2011 06:32 bumatlarge wrote:
Me too, and palmar is town methinks. I think heist might have slipped or something on IRC cause after I suggested mafia would do better with all the traits in the open he said "three heads are better then one" where no one has mentioned mafia numbers. I mean 3 is a logical assumption but still puts him on my radar. Still waiting for syllo or deconduo to come back and explain the mafia KP.

Interesting, do you have logs of that "slip" ?

And the mafia kp has now been confirmed, care to explain how your plan helps us more than the mafia?

What makes you think palmar is town? So far all I've seen from him are a couple random FoS...
"The emperor protects"
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