TL Mafia XLIII - Page 15

On August 03 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:


Its not bad, its unrealistic.

On August 02 2011 11:07 Munk-E wrote:

But player x is protected in this case, and they wouldn't shoot player Y! They'd shoot player Z because shooting Y would give away the role and if x was the obvious one to protect, they'd assume he was protected.

That being said I highly doubt there are 2 medics anyways so if this situation does arise, I would be VERY suspicious of both of them.


As for the plan, I'm quite worried about it. We would have a confirmed townie, which could be nice IF he could manage to efficiently manage the entire game. It seems a bit risky if they're not very good, they might screw it up and reveal roles. Also, the medic would be tied to defending this one person the entire time no matter what. If someone shows they are DT or vigi, then the mafia will just shoot both if we haven't killed 2 by then. In the mean time, the mafia could just kill him outright, or pick 2 people they KNOW won't be protected, and it's entirely up to them. If they do kill him, then we have (likely) 2 dead townies, and be back to square 1! No confirmed townie, just a dead guy, and the guy he killed.I kind of think that people are hoping he does hit a Mafia, but I really don't see the logic in this plan. It's more likely he'll hit someone important on our team than a mafia.

In the end, i suppose it's entirely up to the dayvigi if the plan goes through, but it just seems highly illogical to me.

On August 03 2011 03:23 Varpulis wrote:
and I'm usually focused on proving my activity, not calling people scum. I haven't taken a stance because I don't have a really strong feeling about anybody yet.

On August 03 2011 05:24 OriginalName wrote:

Then lets start disscussing lynch options.

I like Varpulis for the D1 lynch. Im going to read up on Mig afterwords.

Varpulis:

-Wishy-washy
-Rolefishing ESPECIALLY under the circumstances of this role-fish.
-Says hes going to PM lurkers to try to maintain activity, decides to back down from it.
-His first game post is really generic wanting to contribute without really contributing general advice post. He also puts a picture of a BLU engineer as if hes trying to establish his innocence.
-Defends himself with Meta instead of hard facts.

On August 03 2011 05:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Yeah, I hated his first day post. I'd be down with lynching Varpulis Day 1, his posts are long but basically say nothing at all and he is wishy washy as hell. This might just be that he is a bad townie because he did say this fits his town meta? I've never played with him before in my memory so I don't know.

I like syllogism. He's parroting mig_ without directly acknowleding him and as soon as I called him out he sent me a PM that came off as a big attempt to diffuse my aggression toward him when he was being antagonistic to me before. Now that I'm actually voting for him maybe he's sweating.

On August 02 2011 08:11 Lucidity wrote:
So we've already found 2 scum in redFF and DoctorHelvetica who are opposing the plan without any real reasons? Good stuff.

A confirmed townie coordinating blues is brilliant. The only problem I can see is if scum impersonates medics. That could give away blue roles/leave our soldier vulnerable. Solution? Just have all medics protect the soldier for night 1. 1 Night of coordinated abilities is quite powerful and we'll have more info on Day 2.

On August 02 2011 09:01 Lucidity wrote:

How will he figure out who the other vig shots are aimed at? How will a fake medic find out who the other medics are protecting? Who said the plan is faultless?

I think I'll take your advice and vote for you!

##vote redFF

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If there isn't a great candidate for day vig I agree with heist's Day 2 proposal. We don't really want to use our vigi's and hatters on Night 1 anyway, do we? Confirmed townie might be more effective on Day 2. The only problem is the risk of losing him on Night 1...

On August 03 2011 05:20 Lucidity wrote:
If it's such a waste of time why are you dedicating any time at all to it anymore? I don't think there has been serious majority support for the plan for long now, so there's no reason for you to talk about it. Every Day 1 has to start in some useless way before there's something to discuss. Why not use the posts that have been generated by this plan to start some discussion which you think might be useful?

On August 03 2011 05:48 redFF wrote:
Also nowhere in the op does it say that all the roles listed are the only roles in the game. Technically we could have a mafia dayvig :O.


Are all possible roles listed in the op?