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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 02 2011 22:16 GMT
#321
Is GF elected or assigned by the host?
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
August 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#322
On August 03 2011 07:14 OriginalName wrote:
BIG IRC LOG POST INCOMING
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[16:49] <@Kurumi> ok ok
[16:49] <youngminii> not that anyone cares
[16:49] <@Kurumi> hm
[16:49] <CUru> hey munk e
[16:49] <@Kurumi> dropbear would care
[16:49] <@Kurumi> but he isn't playing
[16:49] <CUru> who do you think is scummy?
[16:49] <Munk-E> Mainly mig
[16:49] <Munk-E> but i'm also analysing varp
[16:49] <Munk-E> and lucidity
[16:49] <youngminii> oh look syllogism told mig that we're talking about him and now mig is here
[16:50] <Lucidity> lol
[16:50] <youngminii> /talkingoutofmyass
[16:50] <Munk-E> Oh snap when did he get here?
[16:50] <mig__> just got here I was just in irc until I had to disc like 15 min ago lol
[16:50] <mig__> maybe longer
[16:50] <OriginalName> it was like
[16:50] <OriginalName> an hour ago
[16:50] <OriginalName> when you dced
[16:50] <mig__> k
[16:52] <CUru> ym why would you want to lynch mig day 1?
[16:52] <CUru> he has a ridic track record of finding scum
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> i agree with curu
[16:52] <youngminii> oh that's fair enough reason to not lynch him actually
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> wait on mig
[16:52] <youngminii> yeah
[16:52] <CUru> scum would be much more afraid of him than town
[16:52] <syllogism> mig was mean to him so he started tunnelling the most active player in a game where the thread is pretty dead, standard
[16:52] <youngminii> ok unvoting
[16:52] <CUru> if hes scum then we can tell when he doesnt find any scum
[16:53] <youngminii> splendid work syllogism, as usual
[16:53] <syllogism> it's true
[16:53] <OriginalName> So
[16:53] <OriginalName> are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:53] <OriginalName> for likely suspects?
[16:53] <youngminii> what, the fact that your backseat sheeping is splendid?
[16:53] <syllogism> what am I sheeping
[16:53] <OriginalName> On Mig
[16:54] <syllogism> on what
[16:54] <OriginalName> when he could theoretically be perfectly wrong
[16:54] <OriginalName> and your just not doing any of your own thinking
[16:54] <youngminii> on literally everything he has done this game
[16:54] <OriginalName> on his lynches
[16:54] <OriginalName> Syllogism
[16:54] <youngminii> i'm not even kidding, you're just following his every single thought
[16:54] <OriginalName> you are not mig
[16:54] <syllogism> i've been talking to him and a few others all game on skype
[16:54] <OriginalName> think for yourself
[16:54] <youngminii> you mean on quicktopic?
[16:54] <syllogism> you apparently dont know me very well
[16:54] <syllogism> if you think i dont think for myself
[16:54] <OriginalName> but you havent shown that yet
[16:54] <OriginalName> at all
[16:54] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:54] <syllogism> in thread yes
[16:55] <OriginalName> THEN SHOW IT IN THE GOD DAMNDED THREAD
[16:55] <OriginalName> THATS WHERE IT MATTERS
[16:55] <youngminii> you haven't shown it in irc either
[16:55] <OriginalName> I dont give a fuck about your private behind closed doors shit
[16:55] <syllogism> it's a channel with 15 people
[16:55] <OriginalName> i want to see it
[16:55] <syllogism> not exactly ideal
[16:55] <youngminii> so you're showing it in your PMs to mig
[16:55] <@Kurumi> I like turtles
[16:55] <OriginalName> Because afaik your just sheeping
[16:55] <syllogism> what am I sheeping, you still havent said
[16:55] <OriginalName> Kurumi are you trying to troll me cause of WaW2?
[16:55] <Lucidity> how is it more ideal to show to 1 person syllogism?
[16:55] <Lucidity> lol
[16:55] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:55] <syllogism> all i've done is argue against bad logic by YM
[16:55] <youngminii> wtf
[16:56] <youngminii> you can't see what you're sheeping
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <syllogism> Lucidity: it's not one
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <youngminii> i can't
[16:56] <youngminii> handle this
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not trolling anyone
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am hosting a game
[16:56] <@Kurumi> this is serious
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <youngminii> syllogism's got to be the biggest troll
[16:56] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:56] <@Kurumi> but
[16:56] <@Kurumi> what happened
[16:56] <OriginalName> no
[16:56] <OriginalName> the turtle things
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not paying attention
[16:56] <OriginalName> shit
[16:56] <@Kurumi> aa
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I just like turtles
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <OriginalName> mmk
[16:56] <Lucidity> is it just me or does
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:56] <Lucidity> 02,02 12,00 2302:125302.1234 02,02   02( OriginalName 02) for likely suspects?
[16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[16:56] <OriginalName> because
[16:56] <Lucidity> lol
[16:56] <OriginalName> we want a solid lynch
[16:56] <OriginalName> not just
[16:56] <OriginalName> herp derp everyone off doing their own shit
[16:57] <OriginalName> Dont even try that scum shit on me
[16:57] <Lucidity> we're still 24 hours away from lynch
[16:57] <OriginalName> so what
[16:57] <OriginalName> we tookj
[16:57] <OriginalName> 24 hours
[16:57] <Lucidity> what possibly reason is there to start tunneling now
[16:57] <Lucidity> haha
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get that plan away
[16:57] <OriginalName> its gonna take 24 hours
[16:57] <youngminii> LOL
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get our shit together
[16:57] <syllogism> tunneling is fine if it creates discussion
[16:57] <OriginalName> Im starting early
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> no it doesnt scream scum lol
[16:57] <Lucidity> That's just asking, "Hey guys, who are the 2 candidates I can tag on to without upsetting shit?"
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> have you read
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> vers town guide
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> tunneling isnt a scumtell
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> town is more likely to do it than mafia
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia want to plays afe
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> they go where the town goes
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> has no reason to tunnel
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> as long as mafia doesnt get lynched it doesnt matter lol
[16:58] <OriginalName> And i cant tunnel as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> which is exactly what ON is doing?
[16:58] <OriginalName> i tried it once
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what motivation would ON possibly have as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> roflll
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> to tunnel you
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> because youre bad
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> if it was
[16:58] <alanismorisette> wow after that syllo now looks redic scummy
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> BC
[16:58] <OriginalName> it fucking
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> id understand
[16:58] <OriginalName> failed
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm not saying he's tunneling he's scum
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> thats exactly what you said
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm saying he's asking the town for 2 safe candidates
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> ffs
[16:58] <Lucidity> ?
[16:59] <OriginalName> No
[16:59] <OriginalName> i give up
[16:59] <@Kurumi> wanna a replacement
[16:59] <@Kurumi> the next in the line is..
[16:59] <@Kurumi> Bill Murray
[16:59] <OriginalName> no
[16:59] <@Kurumi> so how about that?
[16:59] <OriginalName> Im not a ragequit
[16:59] <@Kurumi> kk whatever
[16:59] <OriginalName> im giving up on explaining
[16:59] <OriginalName> why I said that
[16:59] <youngminii> if bm was next in line
[16:59] <DoctorHelvetica> lucidity its normal if people have a suspicion to tunnel it
[16:59] <Lucidity> You think we found the scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i'd give my spot just to see him play
[17:00] <youngminii> again
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> because the towns goal is to kill a scum
[17:00] <Lucidity> in those 2 candidates?
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> if you think someone is scum
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you tunnel them lol
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> thats the pro town thing to do
[17:00] <OriginalName> i think those two candidates
[17:00] <OriginalName> have the highest chances
[17:00] <OriginalName> of being scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i don't
[17:00] <Lucidity> with so little info out
[17:00] <OriginalName> From what i have deduced in the thread
[17:00] <OriginalName> Ok then
[17:00] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> there is a lot
[17:00] <OriginalName> put more info in then
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> to analyse
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> already
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:00] <alanismorisette> wow@heist
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> we dont have flip info
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> but
[17:00] <Lucidity> There is a lot more to analyse
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <Lucidity> o
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> whats so funny
[17:00] <OriginalName> The OMGUS from that
[17:00] <OriginalName> doesnt help you
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you know what i would do if i ws mafia id say
[17:00] <OriginalName> btw
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> "ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol"
[17:01] <OriginalName> DrH is prob town
[17:01] <OriginalName> YM is meh
[17:01] <youngminii> ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol
[17:01] <Lucidity> OMGUS?
[17:01] <OriginalName> I want to see more from BC
[17:01] <OriginalName> oh my god you suck
[17:01] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:01] <OriginalName> someone accuses
[17:01] <Lucidity> I know what it means
[17:01] <OriginalName> then you shout back
[17:01] <Lucidity> where did I do it?
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> when you said on is scum after he said youre scum
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[17:01] <Lucidity> no
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) for likely suspects?
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[17:01] <Lucidity> You're completely misrepresenting
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:02] <@Kurumi> hey guys, just do what Ace recommended in Mini
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> that looks like omgus
[17:02] <@Kurumi> RANDOM LYNCH
[17:02] <Lucidity> It's scummy because he's asking the town for safe candidates
[17:02] <@Kurumi> jk jk :3 play mafia
[17:02] <Lucidity> not because i'm one of the 2 suspects
[17:02] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:02] <@Kurumi> now brb
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> its not scummy hes seeing if people agree
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> thats normal to do
[17:02] * chaos13_ is now known as chaos13away
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> no matter what side youre on
[17:02] <OriginalName> Its called checking your work
[17:02] <OriginalName> making sure im not completely off my rocker
[17:02] <Lucidity> horseshit
[17:02] <Lucidity> roofl
[17:02] <OriginalName> ...
[17:02] <OriginalName> fuck it
[17:02] <Lucidity> what work?
[17:02] <OriginalName> Lucid is soooooo scum
[17:02] <Lucidity> You haven't posted anything
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] <OriginalName> oh
[17:03] <OriginalName> my
[17:03] <OriginalName> god
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
End of relevant conversation


Im going to point out the arguement between Lucidity and Me. Take what you will from it, but I think hes definitly up there on the scum leaderboard.

I already apologised for that on IRC. I thought you joined IRC and asked for 2 safe candidates. I didn't recognise your nick from the thread -.-
Valar Morghulis
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#323
On August 03 2011 07:16 redFF wrote:
Is GF elected or assigned by the host?

Why would anybody elect girlfriend? Why would I put my girlfriend if I had one in a Mafia game?+ Show Spoiler +
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 22:21 GMT
#324
On August 03 2011 07:19 Lucidity wrote:
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[16:49] <@Kurumi> ok ok
[16:49] <youngminii> not that anyone cares
[16:49] <@Kurumi> hm
[16:49] <CUru> hey munk e
[16:49] <@Kurumi> dropbear would care
[16:49] <@Kurumi> but he isn't playing
[16:49] <CUru> who do you think is scummy?
[16:49] <Munk-E> Mainly mig
[16:49] <Munk-E> but i'm also analysing varp
[16:49] <Munk-E> and lucidity
[16:49] <youngminii> oh look syllogism told mig that we're talking about him and now mig is here
[16:50] <Lucidity> lol
[16:50] <youngminii> /talkingoutofmyass
[16:50] <Munk-E> Oh snap when did he get here?
[16:50] <mig__> just got here I was just in irc until I had to disc like 15 min ago lol
[16:50] <mig__> maybe longer
[16:50] <OriginalName> it was like
[16:50] <OriginalName> an hour ago
[16:50] <OriginalName> when you dced
[16:50] <mig__> k
[16:52] <CUru> ym why would you want to lynch mig day 1?
[16:52] <CUru> he has a ridic track record of finding scum
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> i agree with curu
[16:52] <youngminii> oh that's fair enough reason to not lynch him actually
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> wait on mig
[16:52] <youngminii> yeah
[16:52] <CUru> scum would be much more afraid of him than town
[16:52] <syllogism> mig was mean to him so he started tunnelling the most active player in a game where the thread is pretty dead, standard
[16:52] <youngminii> ok unvoting
[16:52] <CUru> if hes scum then we can tell when he doesnt find any scum
[16:53] <youngminii> splendid work syllogism, as usual
[16:53] <syllogism> it's true
[16:53] <OriginalName> So
[16:53] <OriginalName> are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:53] <OriginalName> for likely suspects?
[16:53] <youngminii> what, the fact that your backseat sheeping is splendid?
[16:53] <syllogism> what am I sheeping
[16:53] <OriginalName> On Mig
[16:54] <syllogism> on what
[16:54] <OriginalName> when he could theoretically be perfectly wrong
[16:54] <OriginalName> and your just not doing any of your own thinking
[16:54] <youngminii> on literally everything he has done this game
[16:54] <OriginalName> on his lynches
[16:54] <OriginalName> Syllogism
[16:54] <youngminii> i'm not even kidding, you're just following his every single thought
[16:54] <OriginalName> you are not mig
[16:54] <syllogism> i've been talking to him and a few others all game on skype
[16:54] <OriginalName> think for yourself
[16:54] <youngminii> you mean on quicktopic?
[16:54] <syllogism> you apparently dont know me very well
[16:54] <syllogism> if you think i dont think for myself
[16:54] <OriginalName> but you havent shown that yet
[16:54] <OriginalName> at all
[16:54] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:54] <syllogism> in thread yes
[16:55] <OriginalName> THEN SHOW IT IN THE GOD DAMNDED THREAD
[16:55] <OriginalName> THATS WHERE IT MATTERS
[16:55] <youngminii> you haven't shown it in irc either
[16:55] <OriginalName> I dont give a fuck about your private behind closed doors shit
[16:55] <syllogism> it's a channel with 15 people
[16:55] <OriginalName> i want to see it
[16:55] <syllogism> not exactly ideal
[16:55] <youngminii> so you're showing it in your PMs to mig
[16:55] <@Kurumi> I like turtles
[16:55] <OriginalName> Because afaik your just sheeping
[16:55] <syllogism> what am I sheeping, you still havent said
[16:55] <OriginalName> Kurumi are you trying to troll me cause of WaW2?
[16:55] <Lucidity> how is it more ideal to show to 1 person syllogism?
[16:55] <Lucidity> lol
[16:55] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:55] <syllogism> all i've done is argue against bad logic by YM
[16:55] <youngminii> wtf
[16:56] <youngminii> you can't see what you're sheeping
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <syllogism> Lucidity: it's not one
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <youngminii> i can't
[16:56] <youngminii> handle this
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not trolling anyone
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am hosting a game
[16:56] <@Kurumi> this is serious
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <youngminii> syllogism's got to be the biggest troll
[16:56] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:56] <@Kurumi> but
[16:56] <@Kurumi> what happened
[16:56] <OriginalName> no
[16:56] <OriginalName> the turtle things
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not paying attention
[16:56] <OriginalName> shit
[16:56] <@Kurumi> aa
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I just like turtles
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <OriginalName> mmk
[16:56] <Lucidity> is it just me or does
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:56] <Lucidity> 02,02 12,00 2302:125302.1234 02,02   02( OriginalName 02) for likely suspects?
[16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[16:56] <OriginalName> because
[16:56] <Lucidity> lol
[16:56] <OriginalName> we want a solid lynch
[16:56] <OriginalName> not just
[16:56] <OriginalName> herp derp everyone off doing their own shit
[16:57] <OriginalName> Dont even try that scum shit on me
[16:57] <Lucidity> we're still 24 hours away from lynch
[16:57] <OriginalName> so what
[16:57] <OriginalName> we tookj
[16:57] <OriginalName> 24 hours
[16:57] <Lucidity> what possibly reason is there to start tunneling now
[16:57] <Lucidity> haha
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get that plan away
[16:57] <OriginalName> its gonna take 24 hours
[16:57] <youngminii> LOL
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get our shit together
[16:57] <syllogism> tunneling is fine if it creates discussion
[16:57] <OriginalName> Im starting early
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> no it doesnt scream scum lol
[16:57] <Lucidity> That's just asking, "Hey guys, who are the 2 candidates I can tag on to without upsetting shit?"
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> have you read
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> vers town guide
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> tunneling isnt a scumtell
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> town is more likely to do it than mafia
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia want to plays afe
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> they go where the town goes
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> has no reason to tunnel
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> as long as mafia doesnt get lynched it doesnt matter lol
[16:58] <OriginalName> And i cant tunnel as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> which is exactly what ON is doing?
[16:58] <OriginalName> i tried it once
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what motivation would ON possibly have as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> roflll
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> to tunnel you
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> because youre bad
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> if it was
[16:58] <alanismorisette> wow after that syllo now looks redic scummy
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> BC
[16:58] <OriginalName> it fucking
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> id understand
[16:58] <OriginalName> failed
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm not saying he's tunneling he's scum
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> thats exactly what you said
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm saying he's asking the town for 2 safe candidates
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> ffs
[16:58] <Lucidity> ?
[16:59] <OriginalName> No
[16:59] <OriginalName> i give up
[16:59] <@Kurumi> wanna a replacement
[16:59] <@Kurumi> the next in the line is..
[16:59] <@Kurumi> Bill Murray
[16:59] <OriginalName> no
[16:59] <@Kurumi> so how about that?
[16:59] <OriginalName> Im not a ragequit
[16:59] <@Kurumi> kk whatever
[16:59] <OriginalName> im giving up on explaining
[16:59] <OriginalName> why I said that
[16:59] <youngminii> if bm was next in line
[16:59] <DoctorHelvetica> lucidity its normal if people have a suspicion to tunnel it
[16:59] <Lucidity> You think we found the scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i'd give my spot just to see him play
[17:00] <youngminii> again
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> because the towns goal is to kill a scum
[17:00] <Lucidity> in those 2 candidates?
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> if you think someone is scum
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you tunnel them lol
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> thats the pro town thing to do
[17:00] <OriginalName> i think those two candidates
[17:00] <OriginalName> have the highest chances
[17:00] <OriginalName> of being scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i don't
[17:00] <Lucidity> with so little info out
[17:00] <OriginalName> From what i have deduced in the thread
[17:00] <OriginalName> Ok then
[17:00] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> there is a lot
[17:00] <OriginalName> put more info in then
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> to analyse
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> already
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:00] <alanismorisette> wow@heist
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> we dont have flip info
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> but
[17:00] <Lucidity> There is a lot more to analyse
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <Lucidity> o
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> whats so funny
[17:00] <OriginalName> The OMGUS from that
[17:00] <OriginalName> doesnt help you
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you know what i would do if i ws mafia id say
[17:00] <OriginalName> btw
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> "ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol"
[17:01] <OriginalName> DrH is prob town
[17:01] <OriginalName> YM is meh
[17:01] <youngminii> ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol
[17:01] <Lucidity> OMGUS?
[17:01] <OriginalName> I want to see more from BC
[17:01] <OriginalName> oh my god you suck
[17:01] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:01] <OriginalName> someone accuses
[17:01] <Lucidity> I know what it means
[17:01] <OriginalName> then you shout back
[17:01] <Lucidity> where did I do it?
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> when you said on is scum after he said youre scum
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[17:01] <Lucidity> no
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) for likely suspects?
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[17:01] <Lucidity> You're completely misrepresenting
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:02] <@Kurumi> hey guys, just do what Ace recommended in Mini
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> that looks like omgus
[17:02] <@Kurumi> RANDOM LYNCH
[17:02] <Lucidity> It's scummy because he's asking the town for safe candidates
[17:02] <@Kurumi> jk jk :3 play mafia
[17:02] <Lucidity> not because i'm one of the 2 suspects
[17:02] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:02] <@Kurumi> now brb
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> its not scummy hes seeing if people agree
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> thats normal to do
[17:02] * chaos13_ is now known as chaos13away
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> no matter what side youre on
[17:02] <OriginalName> Its called checking your work
[17:02] <OriginalName> making sure im not completely off my rocker
[17:02] <Lucidity> horseshit
[17:02] <Lucidity> roofl
[17:02] <OriginalName> ...
[17:02] <OriginalName> fuck it
[17:02] <Lucidity> what work?
[17:02] <OriginalName> Lucid is soooooo scum
[17:02] <Lucidity> You haven't posted anything
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] <OriginalName> oh
[17:03] <OriginalName> my
[17:03] <OriginalName> god
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
End of relevant conversation


Im going to point out the arguement between Lucidity and Me. Take what you will from it, but I think hes definitly up there on the scum leaderboard.

I already apologised for that on IRC. I thought you joined IRC and asked for 2 safe candidates. I didn't recognise your nick from the thread -.-


I posted that before i saw it.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 02 2011 22:21 GMT
#325
On August 03 2011 07:14 OriginalName wrote:
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[16:49] <@Kurumi> ok ok
[16:49] <youngminii> not that anyone cares
[16:49] <@Kurumi> hm
[16:49] <CUru> hey munk e
[16:49] <@Kurumi> dropbear would care
[16:49] <@Kurumi> but he isn't playing
[16:49] <CUru> who do you think is scummy?
[16:49] <Munk-E> Mainly mig
[16:49] <Munk-E> but i'm also analysing varp
[16:49] <Munk-E> and lucidity
[16:49] <youngminii> oh look syllogism told mig that we're talking about him and now mig is here
[16:50] <Lucidity> lol
[16:50] <youngminii> /talkingoutofmyass
[16:50] <Munk-E> Oh snap when did he get here?
[16:50] <mig__> just got here I was just in irc until I had to disc like 15 min ago lol
[16:50] <mig__> maybe longer
[16:50] <OriginalName> it was like
[16:50] <OriginalName> an hour ago
[16:50] <OriginalName> when you dced
[16:50] <mig__> k
[16:52] <CUru> ym why would you want to lynch mig day 1?
[16:52] <CUru> he has a ridic track record of finding scum
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> i agree with curu
[16:52] <youngminii> oh that's fair enough reason to not lynch him actually
[16:52] <DoctorHelvetica> wait on mig
[16:52] <youngminii> yeah
[16:52] <CUru> scum would be much more afraid of him than town
[16:52] <syllogism> mig was mean to him so he started tunnelling the most active player in a game where the thread is pretty dead, standard
[16:52] <youngminii> ok unvoting
[16:52] <CUru> if hes scum then we can tell when he doesnt find any scum
[16:53] <youngminii> splendid work syllogism, as usual
[16:53] <syllogism> it's true
[16:53] <OriginalName> So
[16:53] <OriginalName> are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:53] <OriginalName> for likely suspects?
[16:53] <youngminii> what, the fact that your backseat sheeping is splendid?
[16:53] <syllogism> what am I sheeping
[16:53] <OriginalName> On Mig
[16:54] <syllogism> on what
[16:54] <OriginalName> when he could theoretically be perfectly wrong
[16:54] <OriginalName> and your just not doing any of your own thinking
[16:54] <youngminii> on literally everything he has done this game
[16:54] <OriginalName> on his lynches
[16:54] <OriginalName> Syllogism
[16:54] <youngminii> i'm not even kidding, you're just following his every single thought
[16:54] <OriginalName> you are not mig
[16:54] <syllogism> i've been talking to him and a few others all game on skype
[16:54] <OriginalName> think for yourself
[16:54] <youngminii> you mean on quicktopic?
[16:54] <syllogism> you apparently dont know me very well
[16:54] <syllogism> if you think i dont think for myself
[16:54] <OriginalName> but you havent shown that yet
[16:54] <OriginalName> at all
[16:54] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:54] <syllogism> in thread yes
[16:55] <OriginalName> THEN SHOW IT IN THE GOD DAMNDED THREAD
[16:55] <OriginalName> THATS WHERE IT MATTERS
[16:55] <youngminii> you haven't shown it in irc either
[16:55] <OriginalName> I dont give a fuck about your private behind closed doors shit
[16:55] <syllogism> it's a channel with 15 people
[16:55] <OriginalName> i want to see it
[16:55] <syllogism> not exactly ideal
[16:55] <youngminii> so you're showing it in your PMs to mig
[16:55] <@Kurumi> I like turtles
[16:55] <OriginalName> Because afaik your just sheeping
[16:55] <syllogism> what am I sheeping, you still havent said
[16:55] <OriginalName> Kurumi are you trying to troll me cause of WaW2?
[16:55] <Lucidity> how is it more ideal to show to 1 person syllogism?
[16:55] <Lucidity> lol
[16:55] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:55] <syllogism> all i've done is argue against bad logic by YM
[16:55] <youngminii> wtf
[16:56] <youngminii> you can't see what you're sheeping
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <syllogism> Lucidity: it's not one
[16:56] <youngminii> oh my god
[16:56] <youngminii> i can't
[16:56] <youngminii> handle this
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not trolling anyone
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am hosting a game
[16:56] <@Kurumi> this is serious
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <youngminii> syllogism's got to be the biggest troll
[16:56] <OriginalName> ._.
[16:56] <@Kurumi> but
[16:56] <@Kurumi> what happened
[16:56] <OriginalName> no
[16:56] <OriginalName> the turtle things
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I am not paying attention
[16:56] <OriginalName> shit
[16:56] <@Kurumi> aa
[16:56] <@Kurumi> I just like turtles
[16:56] <@Kurumi> _^_
[16:56] <OriginalName> mmk
[16:56] <Lucidity> is it just me or does
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[16:56] <Lucidity> 02,02 12,00 2302:125302.1234 02,02   02( OriginalName 02) for likely suspects?
[16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[16:56] <OriginalName> because
[16:56] <Lucidity> lol
[16:56] <OriginalName> we want a solid lynch
[16:56] <OriginalName> not just
[16:56] <OriginalName> herp derp everyone off doing their own shit
[16:57] <OriginalName> Dont even try that scum shit on me
[16:57] <Lucidity> we're still 24 hours away from lynch
[16:57] <OriginalName> so what
[16:57] <OriginalName> we tookj
[16:57] <OriginalName> 24 hours
[16:57] <Lucidity> what possibly reason is there to start tunneling now
[16:57] <Lucidity> haha
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get that plan away
[16:57] <OriginalName> its gonna take 24 hours
[16:57] <youngminii> LOL
[16:57] <OriginalName> to get our shit together
[16:57] <syllogism> tunneling is fine if it creates discussion
[16:57] <OriginalName> Im starting early
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> no it doesnt scream scum lol
[16:57] <Lucidity> That's just asking, "Hey guys, who are the 2 candidates I can tag on to without upsetting shit?"
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> have you read
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> vers town guide
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> tunneling isnt a scumtell
[16:57] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> town is more likely to do it than mafia
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> mafia want to plays afe
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> they go where the town goes
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> has no reason to tunnel
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> as long as mafia doesnt get lynched it doesnt matter lol
[16:58] <OriginalName> And i cant tunnel as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> which is exactly what ON is doing?
[16:58] <OriginalName> i tried it once
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what motivation would ON possibly have as scum
[16:58] <Lucidity> roflll
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> to tunnel you
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> because youre bad
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> if it was
[16:58] <alanismorisette> wow after that syllo now looks redic scummy
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> BC
[16:58] <OriginalName> it fucking
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> id understand
[16:58] <OriginalName> failed
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm not saying he's tunneling he's scum
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> what
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> thats exactly what you said
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[16:58] <Lucidity> I'm saying he's asking the town for 2 safe candidates
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[16:58] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> just
[16:58] <OriginalName> wow
[16:58] <OriginalName> ffs
[16:58] <Lucidity> ?
[16:59] <OriginalName> No
[16:59] <OriginalName> i give up
[16:59] <@Kurumi> wanna a replacement
[16:59] <@Kurumi> the next in the line is..
[16:59] <@Kurumi> Bill Murray
[16:59] <OriginalName> no
[16:59] <@Kurumi> so how about that?
[16:59] <OriginalName> Im not a ragequit
[16:59] <@Kurumi> kk whatever
[16:59] <OriginalName> im giving up on explaining
[16:59] <OriginalName> why I said that
[16:59] <youngminii> if bm was next in line
[16:59] <DoctorHelvetica> lucidity its normal if people have a suspicion to tunnel it
[16:59] <Lucidity> You think we found the scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i'd give my spot just to see him play
[17:00] <youngminii> again
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> because the towns goal is to kill a scum
[17:00] <Lucidity> in those 2 candidates?
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> if you think someone is scum
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you tunnel them lol
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> thats the pro town thing to do
[17:00] <OriginalName> i think those two candidates
[17:00] <OriginalName> have the highest chances
[17:00] <OriginalName> of being scum
[17:00] <youngminii> i don't
[17:00] <Lucidity> with so little info out
[17:00] <OriginalName> From what i have deduced in the thread
[17:00] <OriginalName> Ok then
[17:00] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> there is a lot
[17:00] <OriginalName> put more info in then
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> to analyse
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> already
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:00] <alanismorisette> wow@heist
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> we dont have flip info
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> but
[17:00] <Lucidity> There is a lot more to analyse
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <Lucidity> o
[17:00] <Lucidity> l
[17:00] <OriginalName> Lucidity
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> whats so funny
[17:00] <OriginalName> The OMGUS from that
[17:00] <OriginalName> doesnt help you
[17:00] <DoctorHelvetica> you know what i would do if i ws mafia id say
[17:00] <OriginalName> btw
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> "ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol"
[17:01] <OriginalName> DrH is prob town
[17:01] <OriginalName> YM is meh
[17:01] <youngminii> ignore the day 1 discussion ther eis no info nothing to analyse move on lol
[17:01] <Lucidity> OMGUS?
[17:01] <OriginalName> I want to see more from BC
[17:01] <OriginalName> oh my god you suck
[17:01] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:01] <OriginalName> someone accuses
[17:01] <Lucidity> I know what it means
[17:01] <OriginalName> then you shout back
[17:01] <Lucidity> where did I do it?
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> when you said on is scum after he said youre scum
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> lol
[17:01] <DoctorHelvetica> jesus
[17:01] <Lucidity> no
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) So
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) are we down to Varpu/Lucidity
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> ( OriginalName ) for likely suspects?
[17:01] <OriginalName> [16:56] <Lucidity> scream scum?
[17:01] <Lucidity> You're completely misrepresenting
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> yes
[17:02] <@Kurumi> hey guys, just do what Ace recommended in Mini
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> that looks like omgus
[17:02] <@Kurumi> RANDOM LYNCH
[17:02] <Lucidity> It's scummy because he's asking the town for safe candidates
[17:02] <@Kurumi> jk jk :3 play mafia
[17:02] <Lucidity> not because i'm one of the 2 suspects
[17:02] <Lucidity> rofl
[17:02] <@Kurumi> now brb
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> its not scummy hes seeing if people agree
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> thats normal to do
[17:02] * chaos13_ is now known as chaos13away
[17:02] <DoctorHelvetica> no matter what side youre on
[17:02] <OriginalName> Its called checking your work
[17:02] <OriginalName> making sure im not completely off my rocker
[17:02] <Lucidity> horseshit
[17:02] <Lucidity> roofl
[17:02] <OriginalName> ...
[17:02] <OriginalName> fuck it
[17:02] <Lucidity> what work?
[17:02] <OriginalName> Lucid is soooooo scum
[17:02] <Lucidity> You haven't posted anything
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] <OriginalName> oh
[17:03] <OriginalName> my
[17:03] <OriginalName> god
[17:03] <OriginalName> ...
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
[17:03] * OriginalName facedesks
End of relevant conversation


Im going to point out the arguement between Lucidity and Me. Take what you will from it, but I think hes definitly up there on the scum leaderboard.

I think what's far more interesting there is syllogism's part. I encourage everyone to read this btw.
Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
August 02 2011 22:21 GMT
#326
Below is some analysis of varpulis' posts i'll do more people later.


Alright guys, it's game on. I'd like to start with a suggestion. It's very basic, but very vital.

Vig's, be you day or night, holster your gun and try to ignore the itch of your trigger finger. This holds true in every game, but it's especially important in this one. Look at the role list, and see how much kp we potentially have in the game. Every vig role has two shots, half of them can shoot during the day. That's a lot of kp that will be a lot more useful later on.

Dayvigs: If you must shoot, claim and let us discuss. If you're willing to shoot, make sure that you've got approval from the town. Gut shots are wrong as often as they're right.

Hatters: You guys are special, because even if the scumbag mafia doesn't kill you, your bob-ombs will still go off. You also can't move them, so I don't think it's a smart idea to place them from the get go. Wait a day/night cycle, at least. It's for the good of everybody.

With that said, let's get to the game and kill us some scum. As an aside, i'm currently very dissapointed that Kurumi didn't give me my favorite class, though I guess it can't be helped, he wasn't in the game anyways.


Here he says to not shoot day 1, unless you want to that is, then just reveal your plan forcing you to shoot anyways because you're gonna die, because you revealed your role. I don't see his opinion, because he keeps changing it in this post. at the beginning he says to not shoot, as always and it is especially important in this game, followed by him saying it's okay for dayvigs to shoot.
Furthermore he tells them to claim before shooting! Claiming is a death sentence, and it means they'd have to shoot to take people down with them, because they're gonna die anyway.

As an aside, does anyone know what his favorite role is?

My only real qualm about the plan is the possibility of 2 dead townies day 1, but I don't see a huge problem with setting up a town circle around a confirmed dayvig.

People shouldn't be expecting shitloads of blues though. If we have a medic, which we might not, (21 players, remember) they will be tied up making sure the only confirmed player doesn't kick the bucket.

Nothing should be shared in IRC that would not be shared in thread, by the way. If our confirmed town wants to direct blues or if people want to claim to him, do it in PMs, for the love of god, and don't start talking in thread or irc like you're a confirmed blue.

The only one who should know is the confirmed townie. Information leaks kills blues in PM games.

Should we use the plan, I suggest a very simple system: vote normally. Whoever has the most votes dies.


So, here he fully supports the plan again despite his own extra important rule of not shooting day 1. He first says no shooting, then says maybe IF you make sure your going to get yourself killed, and finally now he's all for it!

Anybody who is publicly known to be controlling the blues/leading the town is going to get shot eventually, especially if they've got kp.

I'll eat my hat if we've got more than 1 medic in a 20 player game.

Here he will eat his hat if his plan that he loves so much which goes against his extra important rule actually works...
hmm, it's a good point actually.

A serious question: Do you guys think we'll have a better chance of killing scum if we do this day 1?

If we can kill scum it's worth it (durr) but otherwise I have a safer suggestion:

Why don't we wait until there are only 2 mafia left. That way they can't doublestack and we don't lose a blue role night 1.

this is after being asked why he likes the plan after he gave his own piece of evidence against it (above)! He gives no answer. Instead, he reverts to a compromise of his beloved plan. and no varpulis, it's a 20% chance. I'm not willing to take that risk, especially because it's roughly the same odds we'll hit a blue.



I'm fairly sure that i'm not scum, unless I have a serious problem with reading pms.

RedFF I'm not so sure on. I'm leaning scum because he started off his "no plan" campaign without evidence or an argument, and then just picked up DrH's and copied it, it seems.

That said, I don't disagree with DrH. Our confirmed townie will be dead night 1, and we'll be back to square one, possibly with 2 dead townies. Again, the plan is really good, but only if we wait for mafia to not have enough kp to override the medic protect we will most likely be able to slap on the confirmed townie.

To address Mig's accusation: In irc sandroba didn't explain his plan entirely. I read it as "double lynch day 1" period. That in itself is very bad. The good part of the plan is the confirmed townie. When he posted and explained that point, It sounded good.

Then I realized that mafia can double stack and just kill the confirmed townie, it sounded bad again, until i figured out a solution.

Is there a real reason that we need to use the plan right now? With patience, it will work better, i guarantee.


Here his is accusing redff for taking the position of the argument HE'S taking! (Maybe he lost track by now!) It seems like he's just trying to accuse someone for the sake of accusing!

Wishy-washy doesn't even begin to explain this. He just won't make up his mind! While I'm not sure this indicates him 100% as being scum, it is VERY suspicious. Unfortunately however, I don't think it's possible to brand him as scum from JUST this. but he's certainly quite possibly scum.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#327
btw cop check should check bc
RIP Aaliyah
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
August 02 2011 22:34 GMT
#328
I think you missed one of Varpulis' important posts Munk-E:

On August 03 2011 03:23 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 02:43 Mig wrote:
Varp every post you make screams wishy washy to me. Where is the confident Varpulis I have played with in the past? Every opinion you give you list the pros and cons and then you end up taking a pretty neutral stance. I haven't seen you have a strong opinion of anything yet.

If you had to vote for someone right now who would it be for and why? Do you find anyone besides red scummy?

I got called out for wishy washiness in PTP (day 1) as well. Day 1 nothing is solid, there's rarely anything to base arguments off of until late in the day, and I'm usually focused on proving my activity, not calling people scum. I haven't taken a stance because I don't have a really strong feeling about anybody yet.

By the way, if we're going ahead with the plan, could we have a soldier/sniper claim? If there are none we need to reevaluate.

Valar Morghulis
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 02 2011 22:41 GMT
#329
id rather lynch varp than lucidity right now because of heists chainsaw defense of varpulis and while im 50/50 on the two of them if varp flips that transitions well into day 2
RIP Aaliyah
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 23:03 GMT
#330
i'm down for a varp lynch too

that post that lucidity just pointed out is pretty damn incriminating by itself
lalala
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 02 2011 23:07 GMT
#331
Kenpachi is replacing sandroba! Say hi to Kenpachi!
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 02 2011 23:07 GMT
#332
lynch kenpachi
RIP Aaliyah
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 02 2011 23:07 GMT
#333
lynch kenpachi
lalala
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#334
-bows- hello my friends I am Kenpachi. can i claim Townie?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 02 2011 23:08 GMT
#335
wait what
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 02 2011 23:12 GMT
#336
I went through sandroba's games to see kooky plans.

PTP1-kooky plan(town)
On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.

WaW2-kooky plan(town)
On July 05 2011 14:58 sandroba wrote:
Okay I have a fucking plan!
We are going to treat all days as being 24 hours (We could consider starting this day2, up for discussion). Every day we vote for who to lynch in the first 24 hours and that player will claim how many lives he has (town player has no reason to lie and if he does he gets lynched anyway) and we will fire that amount on him. If a player claims unkillable by nukes like coag we launch 2 and if he's not dead we lynch him. Those will be the only nukes fired every day and it's safe to assume world radiation will not be reached this way. Every player has at least 1-2 nukes and the op says the radiation level needs to be "fairly high" for the conspirator to win. If anyone else fires a nuke he gets auto lynched NOT nuked back.
If we follow this plan we will have 2 lynches every day for every night kill axis has. Needless to say this is extremelly advantageos for us since:

1) Prevents conspirator from winning the game. We can stop using this tactic any time when the game gets tilted in allies favor.

2) Gets us 2 lynches everyday and prevents people from random killing other players.

XLii-kooky plan (town)
On June 14 2011 12:55 sandroba wrote:
Ok, so I have an idea. We try to use pm's to our advantage and coordinating blues is extremelly advantageous to town.
I propose a DT that has a number on the player list lesser or equal 15 to check me this night. He then pms me my role and I post in the thread that I got checked, of course not revealing his ID.
Everyone that has a blue role mansons me.

A medic who has a number inferior or equal 10 protects me this night. This should keep mafia guessing, because no one knows how many medics, if any, there are in the first 10 numbers. This can make mafia waste many kp on me or let the plan work.

I will not reveal any roles to ANYONE so there are no possible leaks, and will single handly coordinate all the blue force, of course taking into consideration all lists posted in thread and sugested to me via pm's.


Possible scenarios:
1) I'm GF, then town is pretty much screwed, but you guys can lynch me if many blues are dead after day1 if you think that's the case. That's the worst possible scenario and a pretty huge loss for town, but I assure I'm not.

2) I'm mafia goon or miller. If I'm mafia I'm pretty dumb proposing this plan, but either way of course the DT will not manson me. If I'm mafia I can lie and tell you guys that a DT has checked me and confirmed my role, causing many blues to roleclaim to me, but then I would risk that there was a DT in the first 15 numbers that can instantly out me as scum randomly mansoning another player and using him as mouth. So it doesn't work well if I'm mafia. If I'm miller I'll of course say in thread that no DT has messaged me (because he won't) and the plan has failed, we can proceed to go by our business and ignore the plan.

3) I'm any other town aligned role (most likely scenario and the real one). If there's a DT who pm's me I'll say so in thread and other blues who have night actions role claim to me. Town proceeds to rape mafia miserably. If no one checks and pms me we ignore this plan and move on.

Why this plan is good: First I'm experienced and intuitive enough to make good reads and calls, but not "well known" enough to have a high chance of being mafia GF. Making another praised veteran take this role raises the chance he's the mafia godfather.
Second, it has a very slim chance of needlessly tieing up many of our blue roles, since I've limited the possible DTs/Medic protects using the player list.
Third, it's pretty hard to make a secure blue coordination center without previously determining a player to be checked or outing the DT, so this is the best I could come up so far.

Any criticisms and sugestions are welcome. Let's make this plan the best we possibly can. Cheers.

Paranoid Mafia-no kooky plan(scum)
Closed casket-no kooky plan (scum)
xxxix-no kooky plan (town)
Merc Mini-no kooky plan (town)
So what does this show us? Sandroba often does silly plans as town, but never as scum. Small sample pool yes, but something to consider. I have Sandroba down as town even though his plan was shit. I was bored btw so don't go asking me why i did this.

T.T now he's getting replaced wtf. The meta read still stands.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 02 2011 23:13 GMT
#337
On August 03 2011 08:12 redFF wrote:
I went through sandroba's games to see kooky plans.

PTP1-kooky plan(town)
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 05:29 sandroba wrote:
Alright, I have a sugestion to make. Everyone should state which player they designed the role for. We don't know how much KP mafia actually has, so after today things might get confusing. This way we can implement LAL more effectively. I would also like to sugest that any person who claims before having any IMPORTANT (that lead us to scum) info or are very close to being lynched to be policy lynched. Only time it's ok to claim without meeting the above conditions is when town decides it's time to massroleclaim. Failing to claim at mass roleclaim will also result in a policy lynch.

WaW2-kooky plan(town)
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 14:58 sandroba wrote:
Okay I have a fucking plan!
We are going to treat all days as being 24 hours (We could consider starting this day2, up for discussion). Every day we vote for who to lynch in the first 24 hours and that player will claim how many lives he has (town player has no reason to lie and if he does he gets lynched anyway) and we will fire that amount on him. If a player claims unkillable by nukes like coag we launch 2 and if he's not dead we lynch him. Those will be the only nukes fired every day and it's safe to assume world radiation will not be reached this way. Every player has at least 1-2 nukes and the op says the radiation level needs to be "fairly high" for the conspirator to win. If anyone else fires a nuke he gets auto lynched NOT nuked back.
If we follow this plan we will have 2 lynches every day for every night kill axis has. Needless to say this is extremelly advantageos for us since:

1) Prevents conspirator from winning the game. We can stop using this tactic any time when the game gets tilted in allies favor.

2) Gets us 2 lynches everyday and prevents people from random killing other players.

XLii-kooky plan (town)
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 12:55 sandroba wrote:
Ok, so I have an idea. We try to use pm's to our advantage and coordinating blues is extremelly advantageous to town.
I propose a DT that has a number on the player list lesser or equal 15 to check me this night. He then pms me my role and I post in the thread that I got checked, of course not revealing his ID.
Everyone that has a blue role mansons me.

A medic who has a number inferior or equal 10 protects me this night. This should keep mafia guessing, because no one knows how many medics, if any, there are in the first 10 numbers. This can make mafia waste many kp on me or let the plan work.

I will not reveal any roles to ANYONE so there are no possible leaks, and will single handly coordinate all the blue force, of course taking into consideration all lists posted in thread and sugested to me via pm's.


Possible scenarios:
1) I'm GF, then town is pretty much screwed, but you guys can lynch me if many blues are dead after day1 if you think that's the case. That's the worst possible scenario and a pretty huge loss for town, but I assure I'm not.

2) I'm mafia goon or miller. If I'm mafia I'm pretty dumb proposing this plan, but either way of course the DT will not manson me. If I'm mafia I can lie and tell you guys that a DT has checked me and confirmed my role, causing many blues to roleclaim to me, but then I would risk that there was a DT in the first 15 numbers that can instantly out me as scum randomly mansoning another player and using him as mouth. So it doesn't work well if I'm mafia. If I'm miller I'll of course say in thread that no DT has messaged me (because he won't) and the plan has failed, we can proceed to go by our business and ignore the plan.

3) I'm any other town aligned role (most likely scenario and the real one). If there's a DT who pm's me I'll say so in thread and other blues who have night actions role claim to me. Town proceeds to rape mafia miserably. If no one checks and pms me we ignore this plan and move on.

Why this plan is good: First I'm experienced and intuitive enough to make good reads and calls, but not "well known" enough to have a high chance of being mafia GF. Making another praised veteran take this role raises the chance he's the mafia godfather.
Second, it has a very slim chance of needlessly tieing up many of our blue roles, since I've limited the possible DTs/Medic protects using the player list.
Third, it's pretty hard to make a secure blue coordination center without previously determining a player to be checked or outing the DT, so this is the best I could come up so far.

Any criticisms and sugestions are welcome. Let's make this plan the best we possibly can. Cheers.

Paranoid Mafia-no kooky plan(scum)
Closed casket-no kooky plan (scum)
xxxix-no kooky plan (town)
Merc Mini-no kooky plan (town)
So what does this show us? Sandroba often does silly plans as town, but never as scum. Small sample pool yes, but something to consider. I have Sandroba down as town even though his plan was shit. I was bored btw so don't go asking me why i did this.

T.T now he's getting replaced wtf. The meta read still stands.



I was fairly sure Sand himself was town ._.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 02 2011 23:58 GMT
#338
Here's a daunting task for you redFF.

Do a full meta analysis of Kenpachi.
wat
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 03 2011 00:12 GMT
#339
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chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
August 03 2011 00:22 GMT
#340
On August 03 2011 07:21 Munk-E wrote:
Below is some analysis of varpulis' posts i'll do more people later.


Don't forget about this. I really hate when players say they will and then fail to contribute, because then I have to get them lynched. They're usually scum though, so it works out well in the end.
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