Pick Their Power Mafia 2

On July 25 2011 11:16 sandroba wrote:
ON, can you pls give jackal the wand or get lynched. Your choice.

On July 25 2011 13:33 redFF wrote:

erm because he said that the 3 objects were all horcruxes and the elder wand is the only stick horcrux i know of?

On July 25 2011 13:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I would be in support of a YM or Jackal lynch.

"You are Voldemort, and you are on a mission to kill Harry Potter and keep him from uniting the three Deathly Hallows. Each item you or Harry Potter obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night."

On July 26 2011 04:45 syllogism wrote:

So you are admitting the role is likely confirmed. What exactly will mafia/third party supersoft do with his alignment checking role that town is forcing him to use? At worst we will be mislead, but we are always free to ignore his checks. At best he gives us red today. There's no risk at all unless it's a gambit and they are ALL red.

On July 26 2011 04:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:



So let me get this straight, He finds a red, we lynch and go yay yay. If finds a green, announces it to thread, and then mafia kill confirmed town? How about we confirm SS, he then uses his power and only say, speaks up. It also requires, every single person in a day to do this with him, bulks up a thread to make it hard to read, and then him to accurately pick someone to check.

Also you want to give another unconfirmed player a power? What is your deal this game. You have no way to make jackal prot SS. SS gets shot and flips town, jackal says "i proted him, he must have been double stacked"

Jesus, do you people think at all? Role does not equal alignment. People who use kp related roles as town should be penalized. People who have roles that require manipulating a town to get power (see jackals role before he claimed), or people who seemingly require votes to use a power and are acting like trollbate to get it.

You do not help these people, you make them useless. If they are sk or mafia they get gimped. If they are town they should understand and start analyzing players. This is not "lets use everyones powers and figure out who has what and then figure out who is red/sk" This is lets figure out whos mafia/sk. Trying to confirm someone based on potential use of a role that was claimed by them (could still be slightly different, hell the alignment could be different).

On July 26 2011 04:50 heist wrote:


Agree. If flip turns out red, then we lynch. If green, we take it as a grain of salt and potentially have a confirmed townie if supersoft is ever killed and flipped green.

Also, either we kill jackal or we don't, but if we aren't, then I really think we should give him the stone and tell him to protect supersoft.

On July 26 2011 06:25 Foolishness wrote:
I am in favor of using the check, but BC's arguments are looking better and better as time goes on. If we can't agree on the check then I'm totally envisioning a scenario where supersoft comes back and goes "oh hey I checked random person X because random person Y said so" and we can't hold him accountable because we as a town did not agree on who to check. I have slammed my head against my desk so many times reading the thread at the stupidity of players that I'm going to die of blood loss at this rate. I don't want that.

We use the Check on someone like Wiggles, and even if it turns up mafia, we still kill Kitaman (or Jackal if he comes back and can't explain himself). We need the check's information, but we should not act upon it today.

On July 25 2011 10:48 Nisani201 wrote:
It doesn't matter if you give someone the elder wand anyways. For someone to properly use the elder wand, said person must kill its last owner. So ON would have to kill sandroba to use it.

On July 25 2011 10:56 Nisani201 wrote:
There is probably a Snape, and in that case we should wait the whole Harry Potter/Voldemort thing out until Snape claims.

On July 25 2011 12:27 Nisani201 wrote:
Ugh, first I have redFF being a hero in Vigi mafia and shooting someone in the first hour of vigi mafia, and now I have this?

Ugh, whatever. youngminii is probably scum, because he, you know, KILLED A TOWNIE ON THE SPOT.

##Vote youngminii

On July 26 2011 10:13 Nisani201 wrote:
BC is suspicious, but not just for trying to avoid an alignment check. This post I found particularly scummy:




The above post was extremely uninformed and looked like it was trying to start a bandwagon. That, in addition to the reasons I stated earlier in this post, I think that BC is the best lynch.

##Vote: Bloodyc0bbler

On July 26 2011 11:23 Nisani201 wrote:

Would you prefer me to vote for someone I don't feel safe voting for? Because that makes no sense.

On July 26 2011 11:15 deconduo wrote:
All alignments, including any possible godfathers, were RNGd/assigned by me and eiii. If mafia have godfathers they were pre-determined.

On July 26 2011 11:15 deconduo wrote:
All alignments, including any possible godfathers, were RNGd/assigned by me and eiii. If mafia have godfathers they were pre-determined.

"You are Voldemort, and you are on a mission to kill Harry Potter and keep him from uniting the three Deathly Hallows. Each item you or Harry Potter obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night.

On July 27 2011 05:34 supersoft wrote:


I wanted to fakeclaim a check on kita and say that he turned red if BCs check returned green. unfortunately kita wasn't around and BC returned red.

On July 27 2011 05:48 Mr. Wiggles wrote:


I did read, but if you think he's town, and SS is scum, why not just go for a 0-1 trade with mafia? Why do you need to kill BC when you don't think he's scum? That makes no sense at all.

On July 28 2011 06:42 sandroba wrote:
Foolishness/Drazerk/chaos13 are all good lynches to me. If there's a day vig hit one of these guys.

On July 28 2011 07:45 Varpulis wrote:
k then i won't reveal any more of Lanaia's role, past her kp capabilities. No sane scum would kill RedFF last night, in my mind. Lanaia is not compulsive: On the contrary, she cannot shoot again until night three.

She has two shots.

On July 26 2011 05:35 Foolishness wrote:

Thanks for making me immune to death the rest of the game bro...I Really appreciate it

On July 29 2011 04:22 Foolishness wrote:
First vote on Jackal


Post against kitaman:

On July 29 2011 04:38 Foolishness wrote:

A bunch of his arguments are that I diverted discussion away from Jackal lynched. That's not true. I said why I thought he was suspicious, then others ran around voting for him without providing just reason besides "foolishness is right". Hunting inactives is what I do best. Go read my past games I'll even find them for you if you desire.

On July 25 2011 13:37 chaos13 wrote:
Well I was reading through the thread and was ready to tell everyone to shut up about voldemort/hallows but that conversation seems to have ended, in a comfortably brutal fashion. The things I think about what went on now:

Jackal58, Harry Potter
The question raised now is whether or not the Voldemort/Potter duo is like Joker/Batman was in PTP 1. Is role a reflection of alignment in this case? It would have been natural to think voldy was mafia, but that turned out completely incorrect. It is also possible that they are both town aligned. This remains to be seen. A question I want to put forward is: Should we get Jackal to use the wand in the same way that ON was going to? A double lynch either today or tomorrow? This could prove to be a powerful tool, and is worth considering.

Sandroba, keeper of the wand
My big question is why was he willing to hand out a KP so early on day 1? Unless he knew ON was town somehow, but with the deal of it being handed back to him, that seems highly unlikely. At first I would say he is town, because he was ready to hand the wand over to someone who flipped town instead of someone on his scum team. But then...nobody says that the keepers of the hallows and the collectors have to be on the same team. We really have no guarantee of this either way, but if we see Sand flip before Jackal, we can rest assured that they are not mafia together or Potter would have the wand now.
In conclusion, I'm uncertain on him. This business has introduced a lot of wifom around Sand, and I've really got nowhere in writing out my thought process on him.

Curu, the naive planner


It's already been explained why this is a bad idea, and I agree with that wholeheartedly. This benefits scum far more than town, since they could eliminate mason or vigilante roles. However, as I often find myself pointing out, bad plan =/= scum. Based on this I think Curu is more likely town than mafia. If mafia were to propose a plan as high-profile as this, they would have thought it through and discussed it with their scumbuddies first, and it would not have ended up posted. But seriously Curu, don't push this plan. It doesn't help us.

redFF, the....redFF


This post makes me really uneasy. He asks for a KP with no explanation. Maybe he has a role that he can use it, or maybe he just wanted to hold on to it so it couldn't be used improperly.



This one as well. He accuses a now-confirmed townie, and tries to get him to claim. Couple this with his asking for the wand, it makes me think he also might have an HP themed role and would be capable of using it. What remains to be seen is whether this role is town aligned or not.

At the moment I have no strong reads on any other players. Hopefully I'll have more time tomorrow to read and do some proper analysis.


Something I really don't want to happen is that everyone gets wrapped up in the theme roles of this game. At the heart of it, it's a simple game of mafia. At no point in the game should role/HP mechanics come before good analysis. I realize that in my thoughts above I focused a lot on HP, and as you can see it only led to a lot of wifom. I will be doing my best to move away from this in the future and on to analysis based more in behavior.

On July 25 2011 13:57 Tackster wrote:
Calling the 3 Deathly Hallows examples of horcruxes is like calling Gandalf's asshole the one true ring. If we keep fucking up Harry Potter lore hear i'm going to call J.K.Rowling and then everyone will be sorry!


Apart from that I was shocked to see that day kill! Days are 48 hours long - surely sandroba having a stick up his...attic... is not worth 3 roleclaims, a day shot and the beginnings of a bandwagon. Chaos13 seems to be the only one who's done any analysis as opposed to 'i just read everything so do what i say'.

I myself haven't analysed much but seeing as I can't sleep i'll go back and try and generate a proper timeline of events...

Everyone take a chill pill and wash it done with some methodone...

On July 30 2011 07:07 Lanaia wrote:


I thought it was a crumb and I was confused to all hell as to what it would mean.



May I ask, do we think Foolishness was being honest about him being roleblocked?

On July 31 2011 15:20 Curu wrote:
No, but one Mafia member almost certainly had a daykill that was used on supersoft.

Someone is lying about their role, but it doesn't appear to be Palmar.

On July 28 2011 05:29 Kurumi wrote:
I was hoping for posting restriction and You know what
My role might not work
that's so funny
I am the Oracle. Every night I might target someone and their role will be revealed upon my death. I can change targets every night.

On August 02 2011 09:33 Trotske wrote:
I would be for this plan on like day 3 with a sniper using the second shot because by then we would have a lot more info to make a better choice on who to shoot and if we do kill a townie with it by accident it would give us even more info.

On August 02 2011 09:46 Trotske wrote:
If you use the sniper as a second lynch but don't have him claim until he is out of kills he can't get taken out until he is just a normal townie.

And since the sniper would be acting on the towns behalf it would show you who was pushing really hard for the vig shot on a townie. and let you reexamine what the townie who got shot had said because he was now a confirmed townie.

On August 03 2011 03:34 Trotske wrote:


you don't want the day vig to claim before the town has agreed to the plan (Which they havn't) or until we know where we want the dayvig to aim.

On August 02 2011 23:07 Trotske wrote:



As you will know from this post



If a day vig trys to hit someone and they survive we have no way of knowing if they are both scum or a vig / vet .


No idea if you weren't reading the posts or just scum trying to slip this idea in to see if anyone would catch it.

FoS Lucidity

On August 03 2011 07:15 Curu wrote:
I am hidden vote/self Vet/self Watcher/role check/all KP Healer now. For whoever asked for all my powers.

On August 03 2011 09:00 Palmar wrote:


Oh you great master of the rainbow, share with us your wisdom.

Have you found the sun yet, or does the sun remain hidden. Once the sun is found I will be able to cast another spell?

But who is the sun?