I'd rather lose than have that happen twice in a row.
##vote Fishball
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
I'd rather lose than have that happen twice in a row. ##vote Fishball <3 | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
##Vote Fishball | ||
aidnai
United States1159 Posts
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HaploPaithan
United States100 Posts
##Vote Fishball I'm cool with lynching Fishball. I've thought he was traitor for this entire time. Might as well go for it since that seems to be the towns consensus. | ||
Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 18 2011 08:38 aidnai wrote: Deconduo appears just to hammer? Something feels quite definitely wrong here... Technically, the Romanian chick who <3 me is the hammer. | ||
CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On January 18 2011 08:38 aidnai wrote: Deconduo appears just to hammer? Something feels quite definitely wrong here... Yes, but here are the options: 1. Deconduo is Mafia - Even if we kill him, mafia don't lose a KP. And since he's claimed SK he will have to be lynched SOMETIME anyway. 2. Deconduo is SK - We kill him, we may lose a KP during the night. He has no interest in hitting the town as the Mafia would win asap if he does. So it's a question of: a) do we lynch deconduo and lose (risk losing) a KP at night? b) do we let deconduo live and risk lynching another townie. Seems like most people think option b is better, because even if we lynch green, we may have dec hit red. Of course, if he fails hitting anyone again... we may start to question. ![]() | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
...but then again, as an experienced mafia player, I would expect you to post as such if you are red. So you see... even though there's much much love, we can't risk losing another lynch. Heck, if you can convince everyone to vote for me, I'll switch my vote to myself, lol. ![]() | ||
Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On January 18 2011 08:44 CubEdIn wrote: I'm not a chick. I just like the way you post. You seem very pro-town, just like BC. ...but then again, as an experienced mafia player, I would expect you to post as such if you are red. So you see... even though there's much much love, we can't risk losing another lynch. Heck, if you can convince everyone to vote for me, I'll switch my vote to myself, lol. ![]() I know you're not a chick... Romania! Aw, you made my day by saying that I seem pro-town. | ||
Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
It’s not exactly a secret that I am the Traitor. Even an amoeba can figure that out by now. The moment a player brought up that he did not receive the Traitor role, and his claim was proven by his death, in all likely hood, there can only be one ending that awaits me. I’ll leave my comments and motives for pre-game. As for this post, my last post, there are a few things I want to point out. This is merely a logical explanation from my point of view, and I will be leaving out most of the subjective game details and events due to obvious reasons; If I said Ace is not Mafia in a game where I flipped Mafia, who would believe me? It would just be more a of a WIFOM. The Mafia obviously know each other, and know who isn’t one of their own. The only thing that Mafia does not know, is among these players, who are the Serial Killers. Lynches can be persuaded and convinced, but SK KP on the other hand is a lot more difficult. Any logical player will tell you that finding and hunting for the SK will be one of Mafia’s primary goal in this game. Also, keep in mind that the SK cannot be killed by conventional means, due to their nature of being bulletproof. There are only 4 possible ways for the SK to die in this game. - Hit by Day Vigilante - Taken a hit while being Roleblocked - Lynched - Taken a hit by another SK The most convenient way, would of course be lynching the SK, for a couple reasons. It builds credit to the person who pushed for the SK lynch, and it eliminates the chances that a fellow teammate (if you are Mafia) to be lynched as there is only one lynch. Now although the above is mainly presented from a Mafia standpoint, this does not mean it does not apply to other parties at all. It’s already proven that we have multiple SK’s in this game. From the core, SK’s only play for themselves and can only win if they are the last man standing. They will have to kill each other, and they can since their hits go through BP. They cannot win with each other and this has been confirmed by Ace. The most dangerous threat to a SK, is the lynch. They cannot be taken out by conventional night hits, and their alignment check comes up as innocent. They only start as one, with Mafia starting at 5, and the possibility of ending up as 6 by recruiting the Traitor. They need KP assistance from the Mafia to trim down the count of Town, but they also need to keep Mafia’s # count in check. First thing, it doesn’t hurt Mafia’s 1 KP with their members dying (unless all of them die). Secondly, it lowers the Mafia's influence in lynch votes, which is the most critical portion. If SK’s want to win, this is what they must do. What matters to Town, is to eliminate all onslaught sources from the SK’s and Mafia. I already said this once. Killing a SK is an instant -1 KP. Killing a Mafia however, overall KP remains the same. It’s pretty obvious what benefits the Town more in both short and long term gains. I decided not to reply when BC argued against my logic, because if I argue, it would basically mean that I am admitting Traitor and am admitting defeat. Even though my lynch was 99.99% imminent, I decided to play that 0.01% to the end. I only decided to post this when my death is confirmed so I can get my point through. If it ever came down to Town vs SK at the end, Town should be looking for players who fits into those subtle traits I mentioned above. There are already a few players I can name that falls into that category. Like I've said and repeated many times before, it is in the SK's best interest to blend in with Town. Acting "pro-town" now, does not mean they are Town. Finding a SK, does not necessarily mean they are Town. Finding Mafia, does not necessarily mean they are Town. I know it is impossible for every "pro-town" player to be the SK, but this is a fine line to walk; It would be up to the remaining players at the time to figure it out. This is Pick Your Power Mafia. One thing I know for sure, is that the SK will strike when the time is right, and if Town is not prepared, this could end very badly. GG | ||
Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
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kitaman27
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United States9244 Posts
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
Well, either Deconduo is red and has no KP, or he is SK and has KP that he may or may not use for our purposes. Deconduo, I'm not going to lie, I will be pushing for your lynch tomorrow. Since you claimed SK, this is inevitable, however, if you are SK it is up to you to decide which faction (scum/town) you will assist with your final night kill. Amber, I hope you're a little bit relieved about your conspiracy theories now at least. Do you know who you'll be roleblocking tonight? Apparently you can't roleblock pigsquirrel again, so may I suggest beneather? If you are inclined to believe that deconduo is in fact SK and will use his kill against us, you could also RB him tonight. I'm quite sad we haven't heard anything from eiii, if he claims parity cop then we have to take a closer look at him and bumatlarge. Jimbo too T_T BloodyC0bbler, we may not be on the best of terms, but you have offered some solid input recently. What are your opinions on night actions? Are you still focussed on Bumatlarge? | ||
Ace
United States16096 Posts
![]() Day 3 Votes With 15 alive, it is 8 to lynch! Fishball (10) kitaman27 aidnai BloodyC0bbler Amber[LighT] bumatlarge Kenpachi Beneather CubEdIn deconduo HaploPaithan Eiii (0) BloodyC0bbler (2) Pigsquirrel Misder kitaman27 (1) Fishball Not Voting (6) - JimboSilvers, Eiii + Show Spoiler + Fishball, Scum Traitor has been lynched It is now Night 4. Night actions are due Tuesday January 18th 9PM ET/11 KST. | ||
kitaman27
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United States9244 Posts
On January 18 2011 10:27 aidnai wrote: hmm... Well, either Deconduo is red and has no KP, or he is SK and has KP that he may or may not use for our purposes. Deconduo, I'm not going to lie, I will be pushing for your lynch tomorrow. Since you claimed SK, this is inevitable, however, if you are SK it is up to you to decide which faction (scum/town) you will assist with your final night kill. I'd be willing to make a deal with deconduo. If you hit a scum, then the town will be willing to extend your lifespan. A miss or town hit would mean we probably would have to lynch you. On January 18 2011 10:27 aidnai wrote: Amber, I hope you're a little bit relieved about your conspiracy theories now at least. Do you know who you'll be roleblocking tonight? Apparently you can't roleblock pigsquirrel again, so may I suggest beneather? If you are inclined to believe that deconduo is in fact SK and will use his kill against us, you could also RB him tonight. I would suggest targeting one of the lurkers to see if it impacts the possible cpr doc kp. I don't think you can role block a SK kp. On January 18 2011 10:31 Ace wrote: Fishball, Scum Traitor has been lynched Looks like he was indeed recruited. Either deconduo was lying about his hit or there is a mafia medic or joat somewhere. I'm open to suggestions for the night kp. Haven't made my mind up on the target yet. Cube, you should probably RNG between me, Amber and maybe one other protown person. | ||
Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
I can role block the SK, which I'm assuming will discount his kill I think. However doesn't BC believe that if FB flipped scum traitor that dec was actually mafia? If that's the case then I'm role blocking someone who has no power to block. I think role blocking a lurker might be the best option. What do you guys think about the bulletproof claim-ee? | ||
Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On January 17 2011 09:12 bumatlarge wrote: Since mafia believes I am role cop, I guess it's no use keeping it secret. I am a Role Cop Night 1. I checked kenpachi and it came back GodFather. I was going to come out and say it but then LSB and BC came out and said they went for GF, and that kenachi wasn't getting FoS for his move. Night 2 I picked Eii and got back vanilla. He should confirm this, but I have no idea what he went for or not. Night 3 I will check fishball if he survives. I want to check someone who can actually confirm I have rolecop, so tonight I will check one of the following unclaimed. Bah, the one time I'm away for a day is finally when I'm needed. Yes, I picked parity cop, and I didn't get the role. Catching up on thread now. | ||
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