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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Since all but a couple of the claims are now public, I think it would be beneficial for the remainder to role claim.
1 deconduo copycat
2 Kenpachi godfather
3 kitaman27 vig
4 Barundar bullet bill
5 Jackal58 vanilla
6 Fishball traitor
7 Amber[Light] role blocker
8 CubEdIn medic
9 LayOffRage vanilla
10 bumatlarge role cop
11 HaploPaithan (parity cop?)
12 Eiii vanilla
13 BloodyC0bbler vanilla
14 zeks mason
15 Misder vanilla
16 aidnai witch
17 JimboSilvers (vet?)
18 GGQ day vig
19 Beneather bulletproof
20 Pigsquirrel ???
21 Divinek hider
22 LSB vanilla
@Haplo Since the mafia now knows whether or not you are the parity cop, you should claim your results
@Pigsquirrel, with the pro-town roles all already out in the open, I would like to hear what your role is. Please do not ignore my request, as I am strongly considering hitting you if you do so.
@Jimbo, are you sure you didn't die from that hit because it sure seems like it :/
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I would assume if there is no 3rd SK, Pigsquirrel is mafia CPR
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or rather unknown SK since we arent sure if deconduo is SK or not
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Sorry, I've been really busy with finals being last week. Once regular school starts back up I'll have more time to play.
I decided to stick with the plan and took PoD. I didn't think there was anything else for me to do/didn't really know what to do so I just took what I was supposed to.
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EBWOP: Shoulda claimed earlier as I was almost last pick - This means that no scum took PoD out of order earlier I guess, as I would be stuck with vanilla.
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PoD is actually a very good role to deny scum.
A couple options (since, I'm sorry Pigsquirrel, we can't automatically trust your alignment):
1) kill pigsquirrel, eliminate the threat of a second night cycle.
2) have cubedin protect/roleblock pigsquirrel
3) hope pigsquirrel is town and not part of a sinister plot to kill us all?
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Can you still activate your power?
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On January 18 2011 11:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Since all but a couple of the claims are now public, I think it would be beneficial for the remainder to role claim.
1 deconduo copycat
2 Kenpachi godfather
3 kitaman27 vig
4 Barundar bullet bill
5 Jackal58 vanilla
6 Fishball traitor
7 Amber[Light] role blocker
8 CubEdIn medic
9 LayOffRage vanilla
10 bumatlarge role cop
11 HaploPaithan (parity cop?)
12 Eiii vanilla
13 BloodyC0bbler vanilla
14 zeks mason
15 Misder vanilla
16 aidnai witch
17 JimboSilvers (vet?)
18 GGQ day vig
19 Beneather bulletproof
20 Pigsquirrel ???
21 Divinek hider
22 LSB vanilla
@Haplo Since the mafia now knows whether or not you are the parity cop, you should claim your results
@Pigsquirrel, with the pro-town roles all already out in the open, I would like to hear what your role is. Please do not ignore my request, as I am strongly considering hitting you if you do so.
@Jimbo, are you sure you didn't die from that hit because it sure seems like it :/
Eiii claims that he tried to get parity and didn't get it correct? That means that someone below him has the role or he is lying and got red. For sake of the argument lets assume that he did get it.
This means someone from
1 deconduo copycat
2 Kenpachi godfather
3 kitaman27 vig
4 Barundar bullet bill
5 Jackal58 vanilla
6 Fishball traitor
7 Amber[Light] role blocker
8 CubEdIn medic
9 LayOffRage vanilla
10 bumatlarge role cop
11 HaploPaithan (parity cop?)
Is the parity cop, of that list, jackal, barundar, fishball and RoL are dead. Cube has proved his role essentially (still possible doubt that he and kita are lying, but very unlikely) decon has proved he is CC. As I picked after eiii and was unable to get GF it makes kenpachi's claim most likely legit clearing him from the list.
That leaves amber, bum and halpo. Of these three, amber has so far had people claim that he has roleblocked them (this would leave it open that he is indeed the roleblocker).
This leaves bum and halpo. Of these two, it is likely that the cpr exists. I say this for one simple reason. The only way mafia would know cpr was still available and try for it, is if decon was red. IT is far to much of a gamble if you are pick 10 or 11 to take cpr if #1 was not only supposed to but it was one role that the town wanted to be able to hold accountable period.
Factor in as well that for last nights "extra" kp to make sense one of our known kp roles had to be lying. We know fishball was recruited and the chances of him being so night 1 are slim (wasn't 100% clear he had the role). Which means he was most likely converted night two. This means decon was lying as a mafia med would have recruited him, not saved him from a hit. Therefore believe that decon is red. His "shot" on fishball was a lie and instead mafia hits are jimbo/kita. One is a townie who pointed out zeks, the other town aligned KP. Unknown sk shot zeks.
Now. In this case we have the cpr "unaccounted for" if parity cop was taken, the chances of cpr being taken in the first 11 players we know halpo or bum has it, which would mean the other has cpr.
I would propose kita shoots bum, amber roleblocks halpo. Cube can protect who he wants to protect/roleblock. As he has the ability to roleblock I would suggest decon/pig as they are both suspicious at the moment. I will post more when I get home but im at a friends atm
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It would be a good idea for cubed to protect pig so he is unable to activate his ability since we're still unsure of his alignment.
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Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.
Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.
I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.
Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order.
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On January 18 2011 14:41 JimboSilvers wrote:
Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.
Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.
I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.
Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order.
I'm fine with roleblocking halpo, vigi'ing bum and "med/rb" pig to keep powers down. That should eliminate/block most of the mafia and their powers. The obvious worry is if there is a mafia in the lurkers but for now I believe most of the scummiest players are on tonights docket. I also glad to see someone else along my train of thought.
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On January 16 2011 11:25 deconduo wrote:
I didn't get any PM about a role block, so fish was protected or is vet/BP
At this point, I think its almost certain that deconduo is mafia, as people have pointed out before. This quote especially exemplifies the lies of deconduo.
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On January 18 2011 14:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 14:41 JimboSilvers wrote:
Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.
Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.
I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.
Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order. I'm fine with roleblocking halpo, vigi'ing bum and "med/rb" pig to keep powers down. That should eliminate/block most of the mafia and their powers. The obvious worry is if there is a mafia in the lurkers but for now I believe most of the scummiest players are on tonights docket. I also glad to see someone else along my train of thought.
I'm OK with the targets, but I don't like the fact that kitaman is likely to die. Kita, what do you think? As wary as I have been of BC this game, this plan makes sense to me.
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Damn it Fishball. You made me feel guilty and everything.
I will protect whoever, but you guys do realize that mafia will target me right? 
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Ok, I've been waiting to claim in hopes that Eiii was a scum and would lie about it. I did pick parity cop.
N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same.
@JumboShivers
The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop.
As for role blocking the SK. If we are to believe BC theory and assume that Decon is mafia instead of SK. Then that puts BC at next most likely to be the second SK. As the second SK he would be the most likely to realize that Decon is probably not an SK.
So that would make BC your best target if you do in fact want to roleblock the SK and reduce KP at night.
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I have no problem with being roleblocked.
Only reason I have PoD is so scum doesn't. Not really a role that can help us anyway.
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jumboshivers? that's as bad as GeorgeClooney calling pandain "paindrain" lol. Although, everyone is calling you halpo so maybe you just want a little payback...
Haplo's claim presents an interesting situation... I don't like the idea of killing off our information roles. If Haplo is telling the truth (town parity cop), it seems unlikely that either bumatlarge or jimbo are mafia, considering jimbo wants bum to be vig hit tonight (however, SK is still a possibility for either.)
It's quite possible that CPR doc is not in spot 10 or 11, for instance:
-Deconduo is scum, he saved the CPR role for someone further down the draft. Mafia felt ballsy, waiting till near the end of the draft to pick up CPR doc, resulting in it being more hidden. More risk, more reward.
-Deconduo is SK, mafia had someone at the end of the draft go for CPR doc, just for kicks, and got lucky.
That being said, I would rather flip Haplo than bumatlarge, for two reasons:
1) If Bum is indeed role cop, he could be very useful for finding SKs...
2) Haplo's reasoning for picking parity cop is very dubious, to say the least. Especially after all this:
On January 03 2011 13:02 HaploPaithan wrote:
Cool plan. I'll go along with it.
On January 05 2011 11:24 HaploPaithan wrote:
I like the plan.
Edit: If people can't agree on a full list. I think we should at least be able to agree that we need to have a pick order for the most dangerous roles.
On January 07 2011 07:06 HaploPaithan wrote:
/confirm
I'm still cool with the predetermined list.
On January 08 2011 01:23 HaploPaithan wrote:
I feel everyone should post if they are going to follow LSB's plan as of right now. This will give us a good idea how many intend to follow it.
I plan to follow it.
Pretty uncool of you to insist you're gonna follow the plan and then snipe the role above yours, don't you think?
If it turns out I saved the only scum set to die night one, just, lol...
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although Beneather is bp, what if he claimed BP as SK? thats certainly a possibility as he did not contribute anything this whole game.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On January 18 2011 17:27 aidnai wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 14:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 18 2011 14:41 JimboSilvers wrote:
Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.
Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.
I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.
Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order. I'm fine with roleblocking halpo, vigi'ing bum and "med/rb" pig to keep powers down. That should eliminate/block most of the mafia and their powers. The obvious worry is if there is a mafia in the lurkers but for now I believe most of the scummiest players are on tonights docket. I also glad to see someone else along my train of thought. I'm OK with the targets, but I don't like the fact that kitaman is likely to die. Kita, what do you think? As wary as I have been of BC this game, this plan makes sense to me.
I think cube would serve better as a medic than a roleblocker. I asked that he consider including me in his RNG medic save so if the mafia want to hit me, then they have to risk their kp not going through again.
@dec, most people are accusing you of not being a SK. Do you have any response? It seems likely that people will be pushing for your lynch tomorrow. For you to be spared, you will probably have to show that you can be useful to the town. Do you have a scum target in mind?
@bum, haven't heard from you since the lynch. Your name is coming up a lot for the night hit, have anything to say?
@Jimbo....Do you ever intend to explain your situation with the previous night hit? You came in with a vague post on Saturday and now it is Tuesday and we are still waiting.
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On January 19 2011 07:24 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 17:27 aidnai wrote:On January 18 2011 14:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On January 18 2011 14:41 JimboSilvers wrote:
Sorry guys, just got back from an exhausting weekend. As people have already guessed, I am a veteran.
Anyway, glad to see BC's analysis, as its right in line with mine. I have a few things to add though.
I cant see a townie picking parity cop as Eiii said he'd already pick it and town doesnt want people losing out on roles for no reason. This means that whoever picked it is probably mafia. Furthermore, since mafia want to recruit the traitor without wasting a hit, it would be perfectly convenient to pick parity cop to deny town information and recruit mafia at the same time. Since parity cop is likely mafia, this would make it easy for bumatlarge to fake role cop, as they know Eiii would be green, and Kenpachi already claimed GF before bum announcd his check.
Also, cubedin should not protect decon. Unless he's actually SK, which is unlikely at this point, that roleblock will do nothing. I'd be ok with using cubedin as a roleblock on pigsquirrel, as the PoD could pretty much end the game right now , or alternatively as a medic prot on BC/me. Anyway, I'll post more tomorrow when I get my stuff in order. I'm fine with roleblocking halpo, vigi'ing bum and "med/rb" pig to keep powers down. That should eliminate/block most of the mafia and their powers. The obvious worry is if there is a mafia in the lurkers but for now I believe most of the scummiest players are on tonights docket. I also glad to see someone else along my train of thought. I'm OK with the targets, but I don't like the fact that kitaman is likely to die. Kita, what do you think? As wary as I have been of BC this game, this plan makes sense to me. I think cube would serve better as a medic than a roleblocker. I asked that he consider including me in his RNG medic save so if the mafia want to hit me, then they have to risk their kp not going through again. @dec, most people are accusing you of not being a SK. Do you have any response? It seems likely that people will be pushing for your lynch tomorrow. For you to be spared, you will probably have to show that you can be useful to the town. Do you have a scum target in mind? @bum, haven't heard from you since the lynch. Your name is coming up a lot for the night hit, have anything to say? @Jimbo....Do you ever intend to explain your situation with the previous night hit? You came in with a vague post on Saturday and now it is Tuesday and we are still waiting.
he claimed vet a page or so ago.
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