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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On December 15 2010 15:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Oh and I already roleclaimed a couple pages back when I got roleblocked. Yes, but most importantly, did LSB know what your power was? Before you got blocked. I think by now it's pretty safe to assume that most of the things LSB posted in the thread were lies. And from what happened 'behind the curtains' it's pretty clear that the Mafia knew what LSB knew (I mean, RoL would probably get targeted anyway, but since he was supposed to survive, either the Mafia used 2 hits on him, or someone in town thought it would be a good idea to hit him). So, bottom line is, if LSB knew more than what's already been proven he knows, then we should be aware of it, because Mafia knows it too. And I'm still waiting for kenpachi to give us an explanation as to why he thinks LSB was not scummy. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 15 2010 15:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And I'm still waiting for kenpachi to give us an explanation as to why he thinks LSB was not scummy.[/QUOTE] because hes defending his scumbuddy. kenpachi isnt a very good mafia player. its pretty typical of him to play bad like that. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On December 15 2010 15:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: And I'm still waiting for kenpachi to give us an explanation as to why he thinks LSB was not scummy. because hes defending his scumbuddy. kenpachi isnt a very good mafia player. its pretty typical of him to play bad like that. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
Oh and Coag, Kenpachi isn't a good mafia player period regardless if he's scum. He got lynched day one in pokemafia... Just sayin. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
final exam from 1-8:30 PM. as always, night ends at 7 PM. any actions made after this do not count. people who have multiple step roles need to be around at 8:30 PM EST for me to get to them or day post will be delayed. of course they do not count to the "anything after 7" rule | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
Town should look at Decuondo. His defense was pathetic and it's obvious he was aligned with LSB. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
I have a huge amount of PMs I can post though, which should probably prove I'm town. + Show Spoiler + First set: + Show Spoiler + From: LSB [ 1709 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: Harry Potter Maf Date: 12/12/10 08:56 No Idea. Rol's been messing around with the thread x.x ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Whats with ROL promising to lynch you? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: Hmm... my campaign is probably dead right now. I just really wanted to draw a cool vote sign after I saw all the campaign signs in TL Mafia V. About Beneather, he was a part of SIFZ so that's probably why he respects me. And also as the mod of insane I helped him out and gave him suggestions. What I'm concerned about is why no one even bothered so support/discuss it with me :S. Everyone started calling me scum. This possible could be an organized mafia attack. That's why I'm most suspicious of RoL right now, as he seems to be like the follow up. The safest vote will probably be Mepak, since it will be a lynch As for Airbag, he's been messaging me. Obviously he's a smurf since he's started playing the PM game I'll attach the PMs here + Show Spoiler + I'd rather not draw that much attention to myself... ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: If you want, you can be the auditor. The thing is, since I'm doing it, the mafia won't be able to slip in and and manipulate the vote. Changing the voting record is also a problem with normal voting. All the mafia has to do is decide slightly earlier. If you really don't like the private vote idea. (I take it the general sentiment is that they don't want it) We can do reasoned voting, or runoff voting ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: but if you are mafia it increases the ways in which you can manipulate the vote and it gives the mafia a long time to discuss how they'd like their voting record to look without ever having to appear wishy washy for changing it ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: The issue is that people like to go with the bandwagon. It seems safer, and there is a false sense of security in voting with the majority. Private votes allow each person to make their decision independently. It cuts off ways for the mafia to influence people. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Airbag: I understand wanting to vote for a player with experience but you can just manipulate the votes if ur mafia Why not just have people post their votes publicly, then it's completely impossible for you to lie about it. I'm getting a blue/red read from him since he doesn't want to draw attention. I'm going to trust Qatol in that Jackel isn't a smurf. Defiantly Why is a smurf, or at least played in some other forum Just something to keep in mind ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: You should totally vote for me cos I'm awesome On to more realistic things, I'll probably end up voting for you if my campaign is unsuccessful. Your play in yo village was pretty awesome. What are your opinions on Beneather? Something seems off about him. Smurfs: Airbag, Jackal Probably Why as well. Second Set: + Show Spoiler + From: LSB [ 1709 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: HP Mafia Date: 12/13/10 10:38 Yeah... I felt that something was up with that... ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: No idea, he's completely flown under my radar. I don't think I even realised he was playing. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: No worries. What do you think of Kitaman27? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Okey, thanks for clearing that up ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: I don't have an alternative victory condition with RoL. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: I don't think you are mafia, but you've been behaving weirdly so I'm gonna be blunt. Do you have an alternative victory condition with RoL? The way the 2 of you have been playing, this seems to be the only explanation. Third Set: + Show Spoiler + From: LSB [ 1709 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: HP Mafia Date: 12/14/10 10:31 I trust Meapak_Ziphh. And I can confirm his role and actions if you get him to tell you anything. I believe I can trust anyone. I've come to deduce that my role is both important and bad for the mafia (unless I'm missing a death eater). I will offer myself to be lynched to the town if my role becomes better for the mafia. And even if the mafia does find out who I am (they have a pretty good idea of who they are looking for), since I didn't die last night, if we lynch a mafia today I should be fine. I know this sounds kind of vauge, but if you figure out my character, it might make more sense. If you want, I can attach some clues. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: I was checked (and confirmed to be town)last night by a DT, so I have a small circle with him. If you think you can trust LD + zergling (and if I can convince them we're legit), that makes 6 people. The DT is dumbledore. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: Although there is no way to confirm my role. Here are a few things I can show you. 1) I can hint at what my character is. I have already hinted in thread. You can discuss this with kenpachi 2) I can provide chat logs that show that Me and RoL were actually working together. You can probably confirm this with Meepak, but I don't really want this known much. Most of the fighting was just fishing attempts. This is how we confirmed Meepak. I can confirm that RoL checked Orgolove. If Orgolove flips red, would that be enough to convince you that the current lynch is BS? 3) I don't expect this to occur. But maybe... maybe something in the Harry Potter role might hint to the existence of my role. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Hmm, anyway of confirming/proving it? I'm not asking you to do it as you have no idea if I'm scum or not, just interested if you can. Might have a 6 person town circle if so. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From LSB: He guessed my role correctly ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Why is kenpachi defending you so fervently? Also PMs with RoL: + Show Spoiler + From: RebirthOfLeGenD [ 2591 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: HP Mafia Date: 12/14/10 08:36 oh man, so whats your power your using tonight? I read everyone has powers this game. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Yep, I'm confusing games -_- Take gabe out of that list, that was a mistake. My take on LSB is this: I don't think he is mafia, but I'm sure he has an alternative win condition. At first I thought it was with you, but maybe its someone else. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: If by gabe you mean gabriel you are confusing games o_O Malongo isn't in this game. Whats your take on LSB? Everyone keeps disagreeing with me for some reason. I should try to do an analysis on beneather as well. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: Aww ----------------------------------------- Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: hmm you have too many of us, we are going to have to put you down tonight. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: I'm interested of you, Gabe, Meapak, Beneather, LSB, Cube. Don't really have anyone pegged as mafia yet, thats just a list of people that have said or done things that I noticed. My biggest FOS would be beneather though. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: coo coo, so who u think is mafia bro? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: I'm talking with a few people in PM, but I'm not teamed with anyone rolewise. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: who are you working with? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: I did, but LSB denied it. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD: hmm? you think I am working with LSB? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From deconduo: I don't think you are mafia, but you've been behaving weirdly so I'm gonna be blunt. Do you have an alternative victory condition with LSB? The way the 2 of you have been playing, this seems to be the only explanation. Thats all the PMs, nothing changed or removed. As you can see, I didn't think LSB was mafia, but he was behaving weirdly. I was gullible to believe that he was a legit traitor, but ironically he actually was he just didn't know it yet. Wasn't my idea that RoL and LSB were working together, that was someone else's. I just decided to ask them about it. If you actually still believe I am mafia, and I faked all those PMs, you think I'm a muuuuuch better player than I actually am. -_- Side note: The fact that he was talking with Airbag as well leads me to believe Airbag is town. (No reason for LSB to fake that conversation) | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
We have a large number of inactives in this game. While some have just been substituted in, others have been hiding in the heat generated by the LSB vs RoL and the LSB vs Orgolove discussions. Most suspicious is ofcourse players that have just been dropping by when they got summoned – Pandain springs to mind - but also players with only votes and comments on other’s play. It’s nighttime, so the discussions should probably be saved for tomorrow, but detectives and other night roles should keep this in mind when choosing targets. Regarding DT checks: On December 15 2010 11:45 Thegilaboy wrote: Aaaand I'm back! Woo, internet in Chicago sucks, but I finally have things up and running in my place again. Enough of that though, back to the game. If I were mafia, why in the world would I try to start a bandwagon onto orgolove when the obviously safer route is hiding amongst the masses in LSB's vote? I can tell you right now that deconduo and I are not mafia at all, and you should go ahead and check us tonight so that you know for sure! Now that I've got a chance, I will catch up on some reading, back in a bit I disagree. DT checks should be used to find mafia, and not to confirm innocents. Trying to confirm innocents is just a waste of time considering the possibility of a godfather/roleblocker. If a DT tries to find a red, but find a town, then you get an innocent to start a circle with. If you hit red, share it with the town. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
I disagree. DT checks should be used to find mafia, and not to confirm innocents. Trying to confirm innocents is just a waste of time considering the possibility of a godfather/roleblocker. If a DT tries to find a red, but find a town, then you get an innocent to start a circle with. If you hit red, share it with the town. Are you confirming their innocence or persuading us they don't need to be checked. WIFOM. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 16 2010 02:20 Jackal58 wrote: Are you confirming their innocence or persuading us they don't need to be checked. WIFOM. Lol, I know you're new, but I think you need to learn how to use WIFOM properly =P | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Butt anyway! I still want kenpachi to start talking. There was definitely something between him and LSB. Also, deconduo and gilaboy. I know it's most likely that you're not Mafia (since, let's face it, LSB was dead with or without your votes for orgolove), but can you explain why you trusted LSB so much? I know deconduo already explained it, plus we had a lot of PM exchanges before the lynch, so I get HIS point of view, but gila's? | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
On December 16 2010 02:58 CubEdIn wrote: I do agree, on some level, that it's wiser to check someone who might or might not be red, rather than check people who yell "check us". They are either townies/blues or godfather. An experienced townie wouldn't ask for a dt check on himself unless it was crucial to the game. And it really doesn't seem the case here. Butt anyway! I still want kenpachi to start talking. There was definitely something between him and LSB. Also, deconduo and gilaboy. I know it's most likely that you're not Mafia (since, let's face it, LSB was dead with or without your votes for orgolove), but can you explain why you trusted LSB so much? I know deconduo already explained it, plus we had a lot of PM exchanges before the lynch, so I get HIS point of view, but gila's? Sure. I trusted LSB because there were very obvious hints throughout the thread that he was Snape. The way that annul designed this game, it is pulling a great deal from the lore of the books, meaning a lot of our characters will have powers/abilities/interactions that coincide very strongly with how the book played out. I guess since I enjoyed the books so much (don't judge haha) it seemed clear to me that Snape would play a traitor's role. He is always appearing the bad guy, but in the end is the good guy through and through. So my reasoning behind trusting LSB is because of the hints pointing towards him being Snape, and annul pulling a great deal from the lore in crafting all of our characters and other aspects of the game | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On December 16 2010 03:03 Thegilaboy wrote: Sure. I trusted LSB because there were very obvious hints throughout the thread that he was Snape. The way that annul designed this game, it is pulling a great deal from the lore of the books, meaning a lot of our characters will have powers/abilities/interactions that coincide very strongly with how the book played out. I guess since I enjoyed the books so much (don't judge haha) it seemed clear to me that Snape would play a traitor's role. He is always appearing the bad guy, but in the end is the good guy through and through. So my reasoning behind trusting LSB is because of the hints pointing towards him being Snape, and annul pulling a great deal from the lore in crafting all of our characters and other aspects of the game Oh, I see, I'm sorry, I'm not very familiar with the books, my girlfriend gave me some tips here and there, and I took that with what dec told me about snape. I went to mafiawiki and read about traitor. It's usually a town-role, who has the ability to turn mafia (so actually, mafia-aligned). Snape was the exact opposite. He was mafia, but town-aligned, so either way, LSB lied his ass off when he was targeted. There was no way he didn't know who the mafia are. So to me, it would still make sense to kill LSB even with him being Snape, since he was feeding lies (like going out with RoL, when it turns out he had no powers whatsoever). But then where does kenpachi come in? He advocated for LSB even before the snipe hints, and he kept doing it even after LSB was revealed. Something's definitely still fishy there. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
On December 16 2010 03:13 CubEdIn wrote: Oh, I see, I'm sorry, I'm not very familiar with the books, my girlfriend gave me some tips here and there, and I took that with what dec told me about snape. I went to mafiawiki and read about traitor. It's usually a town-role, who has the ability to turn mafia (so actually, mafia-aligned). Snape was the exact opposite. He was mafia, but town-aligned, so either way, LSB lied his ass off when he was targeted. There was no way he didn't know who the mafia are. So to me, it would still make sense to kill LSB even with him being Snape, since he was feeding lies (like going out with RoL, when it turns out he had no powers whatsoever). But then where does kenpachi come in? He advocated for LSB even before the snipe hints, and he kept doing it even after LSB was revealed. Something's definitely still fishy there. Ah, my mistake, I meant traitor in the normal sense of the word, not the mafia version, sorry for that bit of confusion. I have no explanation for kenpachi, I can't entirely read his actions with much clarity. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On December 16 2010 03:16 Thegilaboy wrote: Ah, my mistake, I meant traitor in the normal sense of the word, not the mafia version, sorry for that bit of confusion. I have no explanation for kenpachi, I can't entirely read his actions with much clarity. I know, I know, but I went to check for Traitor when LSB said he was one. It was part of my discussion wtih deconduo. And I wasn't really asking you to tell me why kenpachi is acting this way, I was trying to push him to explain for himself.  | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
its halftime for my exam please get night actions in. people still arent submitting. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On December 16 2010 07:09 annul wrote: hi its halftime for my exam please get night actions in. people still arent submitting. GOGO ANNUL TL BELIEVES IN YOU!!! | ||
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