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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
October 17 2010 03:03 GMT
#28
Have not played a game in a while now, time to try it again
/in
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
October 27 2010 07:37 GMT
#77
On October 27 2010 13:34 orgolove wrote:
..Really? So all we know is that there's blue's and reds, and we don't know what they can even do? Isn't that kinda ridiculous? At least the blues and reds need to know the capabilities of each other, regardless of how many there may be.

Did you somehow miss the " This is why it's called insane mafia." bit? I can't wait to see how crazy this game gets
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 28 2010 18:25 GMT
#88
Gah I'll be at work when you launch this. I'll have to sit at work wondering how crazy this will be
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 29 2010 04:13 GMT
#229
Alright, just got home from work and read through the thread briefly, I will post on the mayor candidates later. Just something to think about for now: The mafia kp is 2+1 and it is likely that a mafia role includes infecting someone with murrayitis. Could that +1 in the kp be referring to something else though? In haunted mafia certain roles could poison someone, who would then die one day later. Maybe that +1 is a different way of killing, since infecting someone with murrayitis doesn't really kill them. Sure, come day 4/5/6 it may kill the targets, but the mafia seems underpowered right now. Every townie is blue, and the normal ratio is about 19:6 town to mafia (right?)
so 3:1 town to mafia. Right now it is 39, about 4:1 town to mafia.
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 29 2010 04:17 GMT
#232
agh i need to preview before posting.
that is 39 : 9 where that emoticon is
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 29 2010 04:22 GMT
#236
On October 29 2010 13:13 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I think we should steer away from the idea of mass role-claiming. That works really well in games where there are definite listed roles and numbers of players per role. This game is so ambiguous with the role list it would be insane for the town to start role claiming. There's nothing to check them against, and we can't even be sure we have the ability to check.

With god awful plans like that I'm half considering running just to get people to wake up and discuss how we can organize the roles and who we want to be targeted or saved or infected. How should the mayor role be treated for the benefit of the town? Is it wise for us to cross our fingers and hope a legit DT (if any in the game) check the mayor to confirm? Will this result in 2 mafia members pulling the strings because of some misinformation? Should we have the DT (if any) create a circle and once again cross our fingers? Should the DT (if any) speak up the second he checks a mafia? What other roles are we speculating could be in this game?

DTs can't check a mayor with bodyguards normally, and no pms means no town circles.
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
October 29 2010 18:16 GMT
#347
I don't understand why fishball thinks that he needs the protection by way of bodyguards. Are there no medic claims in your circle fishball? Since you proclaimed yourself leader of the circle shouldn't you be able to coordinate protection and dt searches within your circle to cover yourself?
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
October 30 2010 16:01 GMT
#844
On October 30 2010 18:41 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 15:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
the general town consensus is that the 2+1 mafia kp means that the "1" is probably a role that infects people with murrayitis


I don't want to be over-obvious, but I will say that I have information that has me believe that this is not the case. I can't say more at the moment as I'm already afraid that I've put myself too far in the open.

I wish you didn't have to reveal your role like that. I tried to bring up this subject some 20+ pages ago but it got ignored in the shitstorm of an election we have here. Here it is for reference:

On October 29 2010 13:13 DCLXVI wrote:
Alright, just got home from work and read through the thread briefly, I will post on the mayor candidates later. Just something to think about for now: The mafia kp is 2+1 and it is likely that a mafia role includes infecting someone with murrayitis. Could that +1 in the kp be referring to something else though? In haunted mafia certain roles could poison someone, who would then die one day later. Maybe that +1 is a different way of killing, since infecting someone with murrayitis doesn't really kill them. Sure, come day 4/5/6 it may kill the targets, but the mafia seems underpowered right now. Every townie is blue, and the normal ratio is about 19:6 town to mafia (right?)
so 3:1 town to mafia. Right now it is 39, about 4:1 town to mafia.


can we talk about new points to the election or about this or even role speculation. 20+ pages of personal attacks and repeating the same comments is a pain to read and sort through and doesn't seem to help the town.
My take on the mayor election:
Fishball - I still think that you are safe enough within your circle and I would rather have you as a back up leader since we cannot be sure of the security of your circle. once a few people die in it we can scrutinize the few remaining for a mafia. I still don't understand why all of you don't want to reveal yourselves. If there is a mafia in the circle - highly likely I think - then the mafia knows all of you anyways. You are just withholding information from the town for what purpose?
Pandain - Why should you be mayor again? vague references to a strong role and being able to confirm your alliance somehow? It seems that you are running more on the "DrH and Fish are bad for mayor, so just vote for me". Oh, and that you are "transparent" .. >_> I must have missed your reasoning for why you should be the mayor, could you please quote that for me or restate it briefly?
Doc - so people have found some small and what I think to be unlikely loopholes in your plan. Still you managed to argue with about every single person in the thread. In my (limited) experience mafia players try to pick a fight with one or two players at a time more like what orgolove is doing. You seem to be a decent candidate, but I must repeat what others said already - you did handle the criticism well at first but then broke down and started lashing out at others. You have been mafia too many times for this to happen to you as a mafia, so I think this actually puts you more confirmed blue but not as good as a mayor/townie. People won't see the power in your ability till turn 5/6 when we are skating the line of losing half the townies, you should try to convince them more of this. To me you look townie which is good since I would rather have a 99% sure townie in office with a mediocre role than a 50% sure townie with a strong role or a deceptive player.

I still don't like any of the candidates so I will leave my vote on myself for now. I may or may not be able to change my vote in time, but that is fine for me. Sure it may look scummy, but I feel like abstaining from this vote. I hope I fully explained my reasonings above.

People on my watch list:
Bumatlarge - you started out posting well, running for mafia, then dropped out in favor of fish and haven't said much recently. It almost looks as if you both are mafia and you didn't want to interfere with his election. Then when his campaign floundered (sorry) you tried to take it back claiming you didn't actually back out earlier (but doch quoted you doing so). Your reasoning was that you had the same election principles but then you brought up some weird circle forming role and then dropped it as soon as people started saying that role with fishbowls might be OP for the town
NB - go back and look at everything doch said about you. You have brought very little to the table and have made some very spammy posts. I think your posting has got a bit better but you started off so scummy that hasn't wore away yet. Sure the election campaign has gotten some people to forget, but I keep a list
Youngminii - another one who made such a scummy post
On October 29 2010 14:55 youngminii wrote:
I buy fishball's story. I don't buy bum's.

we should look at fish more carefully if YM flips red. Or YM is in the circle...
all the other lurkers - *gets out my list ... f*ck
Does anyone feel like compiling a list of postcounts so far so that we can get all the lurkers to contribute / reveal themselves?
I hope I didn't just miss another 5-10 pages of campaign smearing while typing this....
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 31 2010 02:21 GMT
#1156
On October 31 2010 10:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On October 31 2010 10:33 Misder wrote:
Is the bodygaurd's only extra function to prevent any mafia hits on the mayor?

It prevents the Mayor from being hit at night.

not quite true, the bodyguard can do more than that from what you have told me
lynching happens during the day right?
and no I don't mean lynch the mayor

>glasse orgolove and fishball were allowed to because of their roles
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 31 2010 02:48 GMT
#1172
Ha I win
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
October 31 2010 02:49 GMT
#1173
And got artanis to confirm my role if someone can guess it
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 01 2010 01:54 GMT
#1584
I can't catch up on the thread quite yet, but as I am reading through it (60-65) people seem to think that I claimed bodyguard. Who first said that I did, and did he even read my posts? Someone (i need to reread it) said that I claimed, and then everyone just took it to be true. Please reread my posts before continuing with that line of discussion. Take a look at the lazy vigilante role, my addition to artanis's ruling was that the bodyguards do more than protect the mayor at night. therefore I have information about how the mayor can/can't be killed (especially at lynching time). Heavy FOS on the first people to say I claimed bodyguard - that was outright distorting my posts. Ill be back in a few hours at the most to respond to the next 15 pages...
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 01 2010 04:06 GMT
#1722
The last game I played in I believe it was Ace and L who argued just like pandain and Doc throughout the entire game. I (being lazy) ignored them, and found out at the end of the game one of them was mafia attacking the other relentlessly in order to make the town stop listening and not suspect him of being mafia. I don't think that we should make the mistake of ignoring these two because as I see it one of them is highly likely to be scum.

On the subject of aeres, I am very confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to lie about him being bodyguard. Sure he thought I roleclaimed and wanted to draw attention away from me, but the mafia have 2 kp at least every night. That doesn't mean that I won't die. Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him.

I think that node just confirmed me being townie - mafia placing a hit on me if he is telling the truth, if he is lying then he gets lynched. I am not sure whether my role is strong enough to warrant risking a Doctor to a potential suicide bomber. If I survive longer my role will be more effective, but very dependent on the choices the town makes and my judgement. Obviously I would like to survive this night, but even if node is not lying I could be suicide bombed in the hopes of catching a doctor. So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim, but like I said I have given enough hints to figure it out.

Also I loled at the page of discussion over my name. I don't even need to post to create useless talk. Pro mafia name
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 01 2010 04:15 GMT
#1736
On November 01 2010 13:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 13:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:
The last game I played in I believe it was Ace and L who argued just like pandain and Doc throughout the entire game. I (being lazy) ignored them, and found out at the end of the game one of them was mafia attacking the other relentlessly in order to make the town stop listening and not suspect him of being mafia. I don't think that we should make the mistake of ignoring these two because as I see it one of them is highly likely to be scum.

On the subject of aeres, I am very confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to lie about him being bodyguard. Sure he thought I roleclaimed and wanted to draw attention away from me, but the mafia have 2 kp at least every night. That doesn't mean that I won't die. Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him.

I think that node just confirmed me being townie - mafia placing a hit on me if he is telling the truth, if he is lying then he gets lynched. I am not sure whether my role is strong enough to warrant risking a Doctor to a potential suicide bomber. If I survive longer my role will be more effective, but very dependent on the choices the town makes and my judgement. Obviously I would like to survive this night, but even if node is not lying I could be suicide bombed in the hopes of catching a doctor. So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim, but like I said I have given enough hints to figure it out.

Also I loled at the page of discussion over my name. I don't even need to post to create useless talk. Pro mafia name


The first thing that comes to mind as something that gets more powerful late game is a role with additional votes. Plus that would rely on the choices of town and the judgement of the player? Could this be the mysterious Elder voter we all know and love?


EBWOP

lol no I've been at work for the past 10 hours or so (well before I posted first this "day")
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 01 2010 04:19 GMT
#1744
Wait so you guys think a doctor cannot save me from this supposed hit? why? I really don't want to die just yet
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 02 2010 01:37 GMT
#1991
Im going to vote for whoever I feel like and not bother to explain it all because I'm a dead man anyways.
+ Show Spoiler +
give me some time to catch up on the thread
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 02 2010 02:37 GMT
#2014
why does NB fish for my role then tell a medic to protect me?
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 03 2010 04:42 GMT
#2387
On November 03 2010 13:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 13:09 bumatlarge wrote:

It seems you are a bit confused as to the reasons why I would be scummy at all. And Dr. H is in my circle. So is one other that I wont disclose.


I was under the assumption that you could only invite one person per night and there has only been one set of resolved night actions so far, unless the invitation process takes place during the day?



On October 30 2010 06:05 bumatlarge wrote:
I am not in Fishball's circle. I have an ability to form a town circle of my choosing. I already choose my first person.

I don't have any other role, but I can easily access any circle already made if they are pro town. I don't have anything to hide now, and I guarantee everything I do will have crystal clear reasons as to why. The only thing I will not tell you is who. I believe my method will work slower then fishball, but it will be more effective later on.

It's not all that dangerous if I am not mayor, but it can be really strong if I am mayor. I dont think anyone aside from fishball has hinted that they can do this. It should be between me and him.



Still, it is quite interesting to read bum's first 20 or so posts. He says no to roleclaims then proceeds to do so, and has some interesting posts about the town circle ideas before he roleclaims
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 03 2010 18:11 GMT
#2440
On November 04 2010 01:23 Pandain wrote:
We need medics to protect dxcvii, he's the only person who we really KNOW is going to get hit. If anyone's in a town circle with medics, make sure to coordinate them so at least one person(prefferably one) is protecting him.


Why are you suddenly trying to protect me? Do you want to draw all the medics to me tonight or do you think trying to save one person is worth risking a few medics?
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 03 2010 18:40 GMT
#2442
No I am questioning his motives. Why should he try to save one random person that "hasn't contributed much", "causes confusion", and "doesn't seem to have a significant role" as others have stated. Why try to save me over another more active "better" townie? Sure I am basically confirmed blue as per node's vision, but to risk one or two medics over me? I want to live another day or two but I am perfectly fine with dying right now as well.
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
November 03 2010 20:42 GMT
#2475
Well I need to go to work now, can't wait to see if I'll live or not
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
November 04 2010 02:59 GMT
#2784
Wait, don't lynch Coagulation - I have a bomb on him
Also, I did get medic protected last night. Coag would've been dead, but someone just had to save me...
We should lynch pandain instead and then lynch me tomorrow in the double vote once I move the other bomb. It is currently on someone I think is 50% townie, and I have a better suspect.
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 04 2010 03:13 GMT
#2799
I can't move my bomb if you lynch him today...
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 04 2010 03:24 GMT
#2822
Well Doc, you guessed it. Coag was right, I am just trying to save him. Because any real mafia would go to that length to save a teammate who has given up like coag has...

And how does it waste lynches? YOu have already stated that you want to lynch pandain and you seem sure he is mafia, why can't you lynch him today and me tomorrow? I mean if I'm lying then you lynch 2 reds(panda/me) - then coag so 3 reds overall, if I am telling the truth you lynch a red(panda) and one other dies as well(coag) as another scummy player(not sure yet) and me. Seems like it is much better for the town that way, if we just do it your way(coag/panda) then you just get the same result as me lying except you don't know if Im red or blue
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 04 2010 03:39 GMT
#2835
options as I see them
(my plan)lynch pandain today, me tomorrow so that I can kill coag and another scummy player instead of someone else
If I am lying well you are lynching me and pandain who doc wants to lynch anyways, and then you lynch coag. So the town is still lynching reds every vote (presuming pandain is red, which doc seems to believe)
Or you do docs plan which is to lynch Coag, then pandain. I lose a bomb and lose my effectiveness because I only get a vig hit when I die, so there is no 2for1 when lynching me.
Mad hatter is a role I have never seen on a mafia, and I am asking you guys to lynch me tomorrow. What is there to lose?
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 04 2010 03:39 GMT
#2836
Gah you guys post to fast - that was in response to LD
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
November 05 2010 04:16 GMT
#2921
So I should get lynched tomorrow then
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
November 06 2010 01:04 GMT
#3147
Well that sucks. Apparently people wanted their results today instead of waiting until tomorrow for double the benefit, but sure. So I am not a usual mad hatter, I am a crazy mad hatter in that my downside is I commit suicide tonight (and none one else dies). So if the doctor who saved me last night wants to help me out again that would be great, but I think protecting our DT (IS) might be a bit more important since I only have one bomb now. If my plan was voted for I would have said something about how I was vulnerable tonight to try to get doc protection or get hit by mafia, but w/e. Good luck town, and take a good hard look at which plans people supported today and for what reason. I think you can find several mafia just from looking at the voting today.
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
November 06 2010 01:19 GMT
#3169
On November 06 2010 10:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 09:42 infinitestory wrote:
On November 06 2010 09:05 L wrote:
Bomb*

If the MH loses a bomb because the person it's on is lynched, does he get it back?

Should there be one in the game, then yes. They would get their bomb back.

Really? I just assumed I lost the bomb like what happens in all other mafia games. I guess you never said that I would lose it, but from the wording of your pms it seemed that way
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United States729 Posts
November 06 2010 01:21 GMT
#3175
And WTF doc? Why is our "confirmed" DT your #1 suspect???
also remind me why lexpars death shows anything about you?
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 06 2010 01:24 GMT
#3180
Wow so DocH says:
"I.S. is my #1 suspect"
--why?
"Wait, let me read through his posts to find out"
He faked his role by offering up another mafia teammate, sure. The way someone becomes #1 suspect is to find mafia.
What is this shit?
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 07 2010 00:11 GMT
#3281
Not enough medics to go around
oh well good luck town
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DCLXVI
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United States729 Posts
November 12 2010 05:33 GMT
#4374
God I had the perfect plan to kill pandain, coag, and another potential mafia and last minute bandwagons and vote switchers ruined it. It was so painful watching pandian squeeze his way out of the next lynch too, and by then the town had no one left to lead (besides LD i guess). Still, I loved my role - Crazy Mad Hatter - so fitting for the insane game. I for one would be up for another crazy role filled game, but maybe with some more information on what roles could / could not be.
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