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On November 01 2010 13:06 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 12:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 12:55 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 12:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.
Day 2 - 43 hours to go
Aeres: 3
Ace
youngminii
bumatlarge
Jcarlsoniv: 1
Elder Vote HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Well, now a vote on you has been nullified twice. True but one was a vote to make me mayor and the other is a vote to make me dead ;o. Very differnet things don't you think? To be fair, the Do-Gooder was required to use his vote on a mafia, whether it be during the mayor election or a regular lynch election.
And the do-gooder didn't vote which is why he was modkilled 
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The last game I played in I believe it was Ace and L who argued just like pandain and Doc throughout the entire game. I (being lazy) ignored them, and found out at the end of the game one of them was mafia attacking the other relentlessly in order to make the town stop listening and not suspect him of being mafia. I don't think that we should make the mistake of ignoring these two because as I see it one of them is highly likely to be scum.
On the subject of aeres, I am very confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to lie about him being bodyguard. Sure he thought I roleclaimed and wanted to draw attention away from me, but the mafia have 2 kp at least every night. That doesn't mean that I won't die. Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him.
I think that node just confirmed me being townie - mafia placing a hit on me if he is telling the truth, if he is lying then he gets lynched. I am not sure whether my role is strong enough to warrant risking a Doctor to a potential suicide bomber. If I survive longer my role will be more effective, but very dependent on the choices the town makes and my judgement. Obviously I would like to survive this night, but even if node is not lying I could be suicide bombed in the hopes of catching a doctor. So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim, but like I said I have given enough hints to figure it out.
Also I loled at the page of discussion over my name. I don't even need to post to create useless talk. Pro mafia name
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I'm going to bring this up again, why do you think mafia chose to kill annul? Do you think they found about him being the bodygaurd? Cause I don't see another reason why mafia would kill him. He didn't make any amazingly good post that would screw mafia over did he?
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You don't fake a roleclaim to confuse mafia. You will only end up confusing town, especially if you do it early in the game. Everyone knows this.
Even if there was the small chance that he's telling the truth, he deserves to be killed because of the simple fact that he lied and confused town. His lie and DrH's 'lie' are completely different things. This type of play is discouraged and he should be killed off for it, Bill Murray used to do it a lot to the great dismay of everyone.
LAL
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On November 01 2010 13:05 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:02 Coagulation wrote:
mods mistakenly confirmed pandain as town? How so?
i was refering to this.. was more of a question not a statement.
On November 01 2010 13:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.
Day 2 - 43 hours to go
Aeres: 3
Ace
youngminii
bumatlarge
Jcarlsoniv: 1
Elder Vote One interesting thing to note about the two nullifications is that the first one is just called "Anon-Mafia voter", while the second vote is identified as Pandain. Do you think this has any implication that Mafia voters who are negated come up anonymous while town ones wouldn't?
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On November 01 2010 13:06 Misder wrote:
I'm going to bring this up again, why do you think mafia chose to kill annul? Do you think they found about him being the bodygaurd? Cause I don't see another reason why mafia would kill him. He didn't make any amazingly good post that would screw mafia over did he?
The only real reason I can think of is he played extremely well in Haunted Mafia (carried us to victory). Maybe they saw him as a threat.
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On November 01 2010 13:06 Misder wrote:
I'm going to bring this up again, why do you think mafia chose to kill annul? Do you think they found about him being the bodygaurd? Cause I don't see another reason why mafia would kill him. He didn't make any amazingly good post that would screw mafia over did he?
he's an extremely good player and his play in haunted mafia singlehandedly brought the vampires to victory pretty much
I'd consider him the best newer player aside from kingjames01.
WIFOM but if mafia anticipated medics would protect experienced players he's a sensible hit.
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On November 01 2010 13:07 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:05 kitaman27 wrote:On November 01 2010 13:02 Coagulation wrote:
mods mistakenly confirmed pandain as town? How so? i was refering to this.. was more of a question not a statement. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.
Day 2 - 43 hours to go
Aeres: 3
Ace
youngminii
bumatlarge
Jcarlsoniv: 1
Elder Vote One interesting thing to note about the two nullifications is that the first one is just called "Anon-Mafia voter", while the second vote is identified as Pandain. Do you think this has any implication that Mafia voters who are negated come up anonymous while town ones wouldn't?
On November 01 2010 13:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.
Day 2 - 43 hours to go
Aeres: 3
Ace
youngminii
bumatlarge
Jcarlsoniv: 1
Elder Vote One interesting thing to note about the two nullifications is that the first one is just called "Anon-Mafia voter", while the second vote is identified as Pandain. Do you think this has any implication that Mafia voters who are negated come up anonymous while town ones wouldn't? It is possible that the role in question can nullify any one vote regardless of alignment. Now, Artanis admitted that the mafia get an anonymous vote so the fact that the first negated vote was anonymous is likely unrelated to the boogerflinger role.
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On November 01 2010 13:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:06 Misder wrote:
I'm going to bring this up again, why do you think mafia chose to kill annul? Do you think they found about him being the bodygaurd? Cause I don't see another reason why mafia would kill him. He didn't make any amazingly good post that would screw mafia over did he? he's an extremely good player and his play in haunted mafia singlehandedly brought the vampires to victory pretty much I'd consider him the best newer player aside from kingjames01. WIFOM but if mafia anticipated medics would protect experienced players he's a sensible hit.
So, the mafia are lynching strong newer players? O_o (kingjames and annul)
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oh this vote cancel thing is confusing the hell out of me.
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On November 01 2010 13:10 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 13:06 Misder wrote:
I'm going to bring this up again, why do you think mafia chose to kill annul? Do you think they found about him being the bodygaurd? Cause I don't see another reason why mafia would kill him. He didn't make any amazingly good post that would screw mafia over did he? he's an extremely good player and his play in haunted mafia singlehandedly brought the vampires to victory pretty much I'd consider him the best newer player aside from kingjames01. WIFOM but if mafia anticipated medics would protect experienced players he's a sensible hit. So, the mafia are lynching strong newer players? O_o (kingjames and annul)
If they felt that medics would protect the likes of fishball, bum, and ace it makes sense.
Annul is experienced at mafia just not TL mafia and it's a point he's brought up the few times. BrownBear is a vet as well.
L is a big target now that he's in the game.
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On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:The last game I played in I believe it was Ace and L who argued just like pandain and Doc throughout the entire game. I (being lazy) ignored them, and found out at the end of the game one of them was mafia attacking the other relentlessly in order to make the town stop listening and not suspect him of being mafia. I don't think that we should make the mistake of ignoring these two because as I see it one of them is highly likely to be scum. On the subject of aeres, I am very confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to lie about him being bodyguard. Sure he thought I roleclaimed and wanted to draw attention away from me, but the mafia have 2 kp at least every night. That doesn't mean that I won't die. Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him. I think that node just confirmed me being townie - mafia placing a hit on me if he is telling the truth, if he is lying then he gets lynched. I am not sure whether my role is strong enough to warrant risking a Doctor to a potential suicide bomber. [b[If I survive longer my role will be more effective, but very dependent on the choices the town makes and my judgement. Obviously I would like to survive this night, but even if node is not lying I could be suicide bombed in the hopes of catching a doctor. So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim, but like I said I have given enough hints to figure it out. Also I loled at the page of discussion over my name. I don't even need to post to create useless talk. Pro mafia name [/b]
The first thing that comes to mind as something that gets more powerful late game is a role with additional votes. Plus that would rely on the choices of town and the judgement of the player? Could this be the mysterious Elder voter we all know and love?
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On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:
Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him.
I've been thinking about this for a while now.
Mafia use a chatroom or something similar as an efficient tool for chatting. Often times the mods of the game join the chatroom to oversee what's happening. So at the point where Aeres had already roleclaimed the second bodyguard (after Annul) a lot of people were asking Artanis whether or not he made lies up. Artanis replied that he would not give an outright lie. This would tell us there is only one bodyguard (unless I'm missing something) which essentially outs Aeres as a liar. So I'm thinking Artanis probably gave Aeres a heads up that he was going to say what he said about the lies beforehand so that Aeres could get a chance to redeem himself a little bit by admitting his lie. ie. he was backed into a corner with no more options.
I'm probably horribly wrong on this though, heh.
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On November 01 2010 13:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:The last game I played in I believe it was Ace and L who argued just like pandain and Doc throughout the entire game. I (being lazy) ignored them, and found out at the end of the game one of them was mafia attacking the other relentlessly in order to make the town stop listening and not suspect him of being mafia. I don't think that we should make the mistake of ignoring these two because as I see it one of them is highly likely to be scum. On the subject of aeres, I am very confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to lie about him being bodyguard. Sure he thought I roleclaimed and wanted to draw attention away from me, but the mafia have 2 kp at least every night. That doesn't mean that I won't die. Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him. I think that node just confirmed me being townie - mafia placing a hit on me if he is telling the truth, if he is lying then he gets lynched. I am not sure whether my role is strong enough to warrant risking a Doctor to a potential suicide bomber. If I survive longer my role will be more effective, but very dependent on the choices the town makes and my judgement. Obviously I would like to survive this night, but even if node is not lying I could be suicide bombed in the hopes of catching a doctor. So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim, but like I said I have given enough hints to figure it out. Also I loled at the page of discussion over my name. I don't even need to post to create useless talk. Pro mafia name The first thing that comes to mind as something that gets more powerful late game is a role with additional votes. Plus that would rely on the choices of town and the judgement of the player? Could this be the mysterious Elder voter we all know and love?
EBWOP
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On November 01 2010 12:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 12:55 Pandain wrote:Alright, basically Doc here's the thing You lied. You said, constantly said, even after you claim you had abandoned it, that you could confirm yourself 100%. You also admit that that is why your role is important. No I didn't and I just kinda proved that after your pathetic attempt to make it seem that way in your last post. You keep repeating the same argument every time I knock it down. You said you, like me, could confirm myself 100%. and this is after you claim to have disregarded the "100%" thing. On October 31 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
and when he claims to have such a huge role that can ALSO confirm itself as being 100% town. But then you also admit you knew you were a prime contender for a roleblock. You misled the town, which you explain now as soaking up roleblocks. But any town can do that, and unless mafia already know who the dt's are or something there's no reason to soak up a roleblock. But this also brings up another point, now you also ran, despite the fact you knew you could likely be roleblocked, to soak up roleblocks. Not to be confirmed, which is why I and many others chose you to be mayor. The mafia (assuming they roleblocked me) now has to choose to allow me to confirm, undoing all the damage done to my campaign and character or to continue roleblocking me and allow other blue roles to act unchecked. This is a play that helps town very much.Except for the fact that now you are unconfirmed.But you went along with claiming you could be confirmed, and then night comes and nothing happens. I'm still claiming that by the way. *yawn* tell me when it does With a hidden role setup, we have no way of knowing if you are what you say you are, or even if there is a roleblocker. And it is far to easy to wave aside everything by reaching to far fetched theories such as "perhaps jcarl just happened to be bussed! Cause they definitely knew I was checking him, and Jcarl was def a prime contender for visiting people. Far fetched? You think it's far fetched that Jcarl could have been bussed or that I could have been roleblocked but far more likely that I just made all this shit up? Why don't you go ahead and say I made the role of sticky up so I can make you look even more desperate and ridiculous.Yes it is far fetched. Do you honestly think mafia would know you would check Jcarl? I can't really comment on whether you made it up, or are GF, as there are numerous options all viable.You misled the town to get elected, and cannot back up what you are saying you could do. And from the looks of it, we won't be able to for a while. Sure I can back it up. If my poke goes through it confirms my role. If I get roleblocked or my target is commuted/hidden/bussed/a mafia liar/whatever it won't go through and it won't work. It was obvious from the moment I claimed and explained how my role worked that this was a possibility. I even brought up the possibility that the person I poke could simply lie about it in the past. Come on dude. You campaigned on the basis you would be confirmed. Just bringing up the fact someone could lie(which is doubtful anyway) does not make you innocent That is why I am voting youToo bad your vote didn't even go through lol 
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On November 01 2010 13:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:The last game I played in I believe it was Ace and L who argued just like pandain and Doc throughout the entire game. I (being lazy) ignored them, and found out at the end of the game one of them was mafia attacking the other relentlessly in order to make the town stop listening and not suspect him of being mafia. I don't think that we should make the mistake of ignoring these two because as I see it one of them is highly likely to be scum. On the subject of aeres, I am very confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to lie about him being bodyguard. Sure he thought I roleclaimed and wanted to draw attention away from me, but the mafia have 2 kp at least every night. That doesn't mean that I won't die. Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him. I think that node just confirmed me being townie - mafia placing a hit on me if he is telling the truth, if he is lying then he gets lynched. I am not sure whether my role is strong enough to warrant risking a Doctor to a potential suicide bomber. If I survive longer my role will be more effective, but very dependent on the choices the town makes and my judgement. Obviously I would like to survive this night, but even if node is not lying I could be suicide bombed in the hopes of catching a doctor. So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim, but like I said I have given enough hints to figure it out. Also I loled at the page of discussion over my name. I don't even need to post to create useless talk. Pro mafia name The first thing that comes to mind as something that gets more powerful late game is a role with additional votes. Plus that would rely on the choices of town and the judgement of the player? Could this be the mysterious Elder voter we all know and love? EBWOP
lol no I've been at work for the past 10 hours or so (well before I posted first this "day")
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On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:
So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim
You're going to die anyway. Unless the mafia are allowed to move the hit?
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On November 01 2010 13:15 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 13:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:The last game I played in I believe it was Ace and L who argued just like pandain and Doc throughout the entire game. I (being lazy) ignored them, and found out at the end of the game one of them was mafia attacking the other relentlessly in order to make the town stop listening and not suspect him of being mafia. I don't think that we should make the mistake of ignoring these two because as I see it one of them is highly likely to be scum. On the subject of aeres, I am very confused as to why he thought it was a good idea to lie about him being bodyguard. Sure he thought I roleclaimed and wanted to draw attention away from me, but the mafia have 2 kp at least every night. That doesn't mean that I won't die. Still that is the best way for him to use his role if he is telling the truth now, I just am not sure where to criticize his confession. LAL or believe that it was an honest mistake? Kind of a dumb play for scum so I am inclined to believe him. I think that node just confirmed me being townie - mafia placing a hit on me if he is telling the truth, if he is lying then he gets lynched. I am not sure whether my role is strong enough to warrant risking a Doctor to a potential suicide bomber. If I survive longer my role will be more effective, but very dependent on the choices the town makes and my judgement. Obviously I would like to survive this night, but even if node is not lying I could be suicide bombed in the hopes of catching a doctor. So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim, but like I said I have given enough hints to figure it out. Also I loled at the page of discussion over my name. I don't even need to post to create useless talk. Pro mafia name The first thing that comes to mind as something that gets more powerful late game is a role with additional votes. Plus that would rely on the choices of town and the judgement of the player? Could this be the mysterious Elder voter we all know and love? EBWOP lol no I've been at work for the past 10 hours or so (well before I posted first this "day")
Hah, it's just something to think about. My mind has so many things processing about this game at the moment, what harm is adding one more? ;P
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I don't know why there are a good amount of people lynching Aeres. Aeres basically roleclaimed to take a hit incase DC was actually bodyguard. And if he isn't lying about his role, that is basically the best thing he can do with it.
Also, what benefit could roleclaiming as bodyguard give mafia really?
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On November 01 2010 13:15 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:
So the potential doctor is risking saving a "confirmed" blue vs losing himself as well. Unless someone provides me with an good enough reason I will not fully roleclaim You're going to die anyway. Unless the mafia are allowed to move the hit?
So now it's more of a question of "should he risk taking blues down with him?" He himself says he's not sure his role is important enough to do so.
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