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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 01 2010 04:55 GMT
#1761
its pretty clear to me that pandain is just butthurt that doch won the mayor candidacy instead of him and now hes taking his frustration out on him for beating him at the mayor race and not coming thru with what he promised in the process.

as much as i dont trust doch at the moment unfortunately there is not much we can do. no amount of arguing is gonna make him say "oh damn your right im a red you got me" so its pointless.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 01 2010 04:57 GMT
#1762
On November 01 2010 13:55 Coagulation wrote:
its pretty clear to me that pandain is just butthurt that doch won the mayor candidacy instead of him and now hes taking his frustration out on him for beating him at the mayor race and not coming thru with what he promised in the process.

as much as i dont trust doch at the moment unfortunately there is not much we can do. no amount of arguing is gonna make him say "oh damn your right im a red you got me" so its pointless.

but it isn't plausible he's a red trying to attack me? your defense of him is pretty transparent
RIP Aaliyah
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 01 2010 05:00 GMT
#1763
why the fuck would a red attack a red.
i think your red drh

see?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 01 2010 05:01 GMT
#1764
On November 01 2010 14:00 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck would a red attack a red.
i think your red drh

see?


lol wow
RIP Aaliyah
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 01 2010 05:02 GMT
#1765
At this point I think we should be more concerned about the lurkers. If DrH and Aeres are both blue, then mafia has no problem sitting back and letting the analysis of the two take up 95% of the thread.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 01 2010 05:05 GMT
#1766
Well then we should kill Aeres and find out, no? ^_^
lalala
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 01 2010 05:05 GMT
#1767
What a slow witted town. Listen, Aeres lied. For the 1 millionth time you do not know what Mafia know. Who the hell cares about the WIFOM bullshit about what Aeres did that would make him a town? How can you honestly sit here and say "well Scum isn't that dumb, I don't see what they'd gain from this - he must be town!"

You do not know what Scum knows!

The mods say we have 1 bodyguard.
Aeres claims bodyguard.
Annul dies at night, flips bodyguard.

Seriously, why are we even discussing this? He got caught in a lie. There is no what if he's town stuff here. Even worse the scenario between him and DC was THE one concrete thing we had going for us to figure out scum. But you guys are sitting here arguing about Dr.H when right now we've got a more clear cut case to solve. The goal of the game is to lynch Mafia and we do it as easily as possible. Stop the WIFOM bullshit. you're only inviting trouble.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 01 2010 05:13 GMT
#1768
but pandain told us not to jump on that aeres "bandwagon" D:
RIP Aaliyah
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 01 2010 05:17 GMT
#1769
On November 01 2010 14:05 youngminii wrote:
Well then we should kill Aeres and find out, no? ^_^

You're an eager one. Killing someone for the sake of getting information sounds a bit hasty.

I want to see a condensed argument that Aeres is scum rather than just "more scum than town."
Translator:3
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 01 2010 05:18 GMT
#1770
Pandain isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 01 2010 05:21 GMT
#1771
Okay, just got my pms and whatnot, so I think this is the game I'm supposed to be in. I'm hungover from last night's partying and drunk from this night's partying so I'll catch up as much as I can after sleeping off the effects of imbibing an amount of alcohol sufficient to disinfect all of the wounded at solferino.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 01 2010 05:26 GMT
#1772
On November 01 2010 14:17 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 14:05 youngminii wrote:
Well then we should kill Aeres and find out, no? ^_^

You're an eager one. Killing someone for the sake of getting information sounds a bit hasty.

I want to see a condensed argument that Aeres is scum rather than just "more scum than town."


1 bodyguard announced.
Aeres claims bodyguard after DC's alleged soft claim.
Annul dies at night, revealed to be bodyguard.
DC says he never role claimed BG.
I point out in 3 ways that Aeres screwed up and had to be lying about the claim.
He then comes out and says he lied.

If you don't think he's Scum then show us someone even Scummier than he.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 01 2010 05:35 GMT
#1773
On November 01 2010 14:26 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 14:17 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 14:05 youngminii wrote:
Well then we should kill Aeres and find out, no? ^_^

You're an eager one. Killing someone for the sake of getting information sounds a bit hasty.

I want to see a condensed argument that Aeres is scum rather than just "more scum than town."


1 bodyguard announced.
Aeres claims bodyguard after DC's alleged soft claim.
Annul dies at night, revealed to be bodyguard.
DC says he never role claimed BG.
I point out in 3 ways that Aeres screwed up and had to be lying about the claim.
He then comes out and says he lied.

If you don't think he's Scum then show us someone even Scummier than he.

I have a nagging hunch Aeres made a terrible, terrible play, but I'll agree the case against him is definitely more concrete than anything I have.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 01 2010 05:36 GMT
#1774
Nemesis, why vote for bum? (did I miss the post in which he provided the reasoning for it?)
Translator:3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 01 2010 05:37 GMT
#1775
as a placeholder he said
RIP Aaliyah
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 01 2010 05:38 GMT
#1776
On November 01 2010 14:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
as a placeholder he said

ok, that's fine then
Translator:3
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 01 2010 05:40 GMT
#1777
Finally had time to go through the thread, so I'll start adding two cents here and there.

On November 01 2010 09:27 Lexpar wrote:
I think that because I'm alive. I am therefore I think?

We can trust DocH. We should work with him.


I don't care whatever information you might have, or whatever your role might be, this is just a huge useless blanket statement to the rest of the town.

On November 01 2010 10:31 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:
im not saying doch is red
im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie

im saying he had a campaign of bullshit.


i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections.


Everything I've said was true during my campaign. Probably that's why I didn't get elected

On November 01 2010 13:07 youngminii wrote:
You don't fake a roleclaim to confuse mafia. You will only end up confusing town, especially if you do it early in the game. Everyone knows this.

Even if there was the small chance that he's telling the truth, he deserves to be killed because of the simple fact that he lied and confused town. His lie and DrH's 'lie' are completely different things. This type of play is discouraged and he should be killed off for it, Bill Murray used to do it a lot to the great dismay of everyone.

LAL


I disagree. There will be situations where faking a role-claim would be beneficial for the town, it's just most of the time, certain players will jump out, mafia or not, and cry lynch no matter what as long as the player "lied". I'm not debating if Aeres is Mafia or not, but I do think his motives are valid, if true.

Regarding the "Pandain vs DH" posts, I read some of them and skimmed through the rest. To be honest, purely based on my personal opinion, even though it has already been mentioned, DH should have seen the possibility of the role block (if this roles exists in the game) long time coming. Right now, he cannot "prove" his role, and everything else just seemed to be going in circles; Exactly what Mafia want to see.
靈魂交響曲
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 01 2010 05:50 GMT
#1778
I cannot think of these situations you refer to but I'm about a hundred percent sure that a softclaim that was vague at best (which turned out to not be a claim) at basically the beginning of the game does not warrant a roleclaim that not only claims the bodyguard role but an extra Cruiseship Captain role.

Oh, let's not forget the fact that he said that the mods lied about the number of bodyguard roles too.
lalala
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 01 2010 05:55 GMT
#1779
On November 01 2010 14:50 youngminii wrote:
I cannot think of these situations you refer to but I'm about a hundred percent sure that a softclaim that was vague at best (which turned out to not be a claim) at basically the beginning of the game does not warrant a roleclaim that not only claims the bodyguard role but an extra Cruiseship Captain role.

Oh, let's not forget the fact that he said that the mods lied about the number of bodyguard roles too.


I do not want to be involved in this Aeres debate, I was just stating my opinions.
If you can soak up a hit, or diverse a hit through lies, depending on the situation, it would be worth it. That's why I said I can understand his motives, but I did not say I agreed with what he did. Like mentioned, it depends on the scenario.

To be fair, a bunch of you said "mods have lied could still be lying" quite a few times, so it's not surprising that Aeres would use such an argument.
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 01 2010 06:04 GMT
#1780
Speaking of lies, we need to look back whoever started this. All this could just be a ploy.
I honestly never thought the mods would deliberately lie, as that would just be flat out stupid and no one would ever want to play such a game. It was a good thing that Artanis came out and clarified this.
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